Re: [RDA-L] Preferred access points for Expressions

National Library of New Zealand -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Preferred access points for Expressions

count each subfield as an element) and over 200 different fixed field data elements. If you diagrammed it all out, you could paper the ceiling as well. :-) kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596

Re: [RDA-L] Swedish comments on the final draft of RDA

: +46-73-917 24 74 e-mail: anders.c...@kb.se -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Outcomes of JSC March meeting

/ ___} |__ \__ -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Outcomes of JSC March meeting

, perhaps leading to at least a document that is easier to follow. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] ISBD and RDA

place elsewhere (in the cloud as it were), but they are part of the bibliographic universe that FRBR defines. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo

Re: [RDA-L] Utility of FRBR/WEMI/RDA

' is a screenplay based on another, or that one is a sequel to another. This is where we'll get the real bang for the buck of moving to a FRBR model. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype

Re: [RDA-L] Urls in access fields

used to get a replacement record if the authority text changed. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__ -- -

Re: [RDA-L] Urls in access fields

. John Attig ALA Rep to the JSC -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles

testing will answer this for us, since I believe it is based on the decisions not the potential new structure. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo

Re: [RDA-L] Instruction

your handy dandy binder from the work flow you also use in the online interface. Or you could create a minimal set as a work flow designed for printing. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596

[RDA-L] [Fwd: [lita-l] ALA Report from LITA Representative to CC:DA]

ents/abc/mission.htm *** -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] (Online) qualifier for series

. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__ -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco

Re: [RDA-L] (Online) qualifier for series

~~ On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Karen Coyle wrote: RDA doesn't define a uniform title, but instead (well, I think of it as instead) has title of the work. I think this will be an improvement, in part because every Work should have a title, whereas uniform titles were the exception rather than

Re: [RDA-L] Items without a collective title

elements changed, or just the rules for how to apply them? (And if anyone has a spare 10-20 hours to do this analysis, I think the results would be of great interest!) kc [*] http://metadataregistry.org/rdabrowse.htm -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1

[RDA-L] RDA and granularity

necessary/functional? 2) is the granularity of RDA sufficient? or is it expected that systems will develop greater granularity than the RDA elements as defined by JSC? -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] RDA and granularity

be fed back to the RDA process? kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Systems v Cataloging was: RDA and granularity

-- not the system record, which I maintain should not exist as a separate thing. There should be only one, unified view. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Systems v Cataloging was: RDA and granularity

, John F. Myers, Catalog Librarian Schaffer Library, Union College 807 Union St. Schenectady NY 12308 518-388-6623 mye...@union.edu -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle I am

Re: [RDA-L] Systems v Cataloging was: RDA and granularity

for which they were creating data, going back to book catalogs and then card catalogs. Personally, I think this would put power back into the hands of catalogers which was lost when we separated cataloging and the catalog in our early computer systems. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http

Re: [RDA-L] Google Exposes Book Metadata Privates at ALA Forum

will not be at the top of our list, but will probably appear along some user tasks. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

[RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

of - Manifestation of - Item of - Translation of (Expression as translation of Work) I have other questions, but don't want to muddy the waters ... yet. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

. It would use semantic web concepts, not the RDA scenario 1, but perhaps scenario 0. It assumes an open bibliographic environment where statements can exist with metadata contributed by others. If I get a clear enough picture in my head, I'll make a drawing! kc -- Karen Coyle kco

Re: [RDA-L] MARC21 XML Schema as alternative to ONIX

step. The OCLC work relating to ONIX (and led by Renee Register) is going in this direction, and I think it is very interesting (although I, too, wish more could be shared from OCLC). Things are changing by the hour! That's definitely the case! kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

that's how catalogers see it, it just doesn't seem to be expressed that way in FRBR. I think a better way of saying it would be that the manifestation manifests and often enhances the expression. I have a terrible feeling I'm the last one to realize this. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

. But we still need tools to create the data. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] The recordless future (was: Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

be by the national cataloguing agencies. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

logic, aggregates are expressions... ? True? kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

-- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Question about RDA relationships (App. J)

an entry in the catalog that represents what the library purchased as a published thing? The three DVD set is going to be on some purchase order, and the catalog still has to fulfill the inventory function, right? kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510

Re: [RDA-L] Structure of record (was: Question about RDA relationships)

a manifestation of Moby Dick. But without an actual transcription of what is *on* the item, how can we match that description with a particular item in hand? -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Structure of record

the 245 $c. And I'm not sure that I favor transcription, but let's say that it isn't inconsistent with the semantic web, which should be able to handle any kind of data you wish to create. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype

[RDA-L] expressions and manifestations

. Dictionary of sea terms -- At Melville's tomb / by Hart Crane. 700 1 $aSummers, Mark. 740 0 $aMoby Dick. 740 0 $aWhale. I've ignored the subject bits because those aren't part of RDA. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] expressions and manifestations

is a kind of description, not a listing of works contained in the manifestation. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] expressions and manifestations

labeled Structured Description of the Related Work. Interesting, thanks. I can't find the RDA data element for that, however. Does anyone know what it is called? I'm just adding the Group 1 relationships, which should cover Chapter 25, to http://kcoyle.net/rda/ -- give me a minute. kc -- Karen

Re: [RDA-L] expressions and manifestations

terms in RDA's Appendix I that aren't presently available. * http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relaterm.html -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

[RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

with these details, but if we can't create RDA data, then RDA might as well not exist, so I consider this to be important. If we are to create RDA data, it appears that there is a lot of work that still needs to be done, some of which may point out issues of this nature in the text. -- Karen

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

the string that looks like an un-coded 505 field in an entity-relationship. You simply cannot. Well, not and be doing FRBR/RDA/E-R. kc Jonathan Karen Coyle wrote: I had to take some time to think about this, and to consult with folks who know more than me about entity-relationship data

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

with AACR2 and MARC, but I think that's a different discussion list. This is the one about RDA. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] expressions and manifestations

Quoting Hal Cain hec...@dml.vic.edu.au: Karen Coyle wrote: 1) there are only 36 possible subfields in every field. In many fields, there are none or at most one left to use Isn't it possible (at least in theory) to use upper-case letters also to designate subfields? That would mean

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

, I'll try. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

[RDA-L] Crude comparisons of Group 1 entities in RDA

.). Manifestation has by far the most elements, however. I'm not at all sure what this means, but it might help to have this overview. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

(as a record format) to a carrier with more flexibility for new functionality. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to find anyone interested in sponsoring the work, and I run out of steam for this as a leisure time activity. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540

Re: [RDA-L] Contents of Manifestations as Entities

). kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty

-- particularly in the case of works and expressions. John Attig Authority Control Librarian Penn State University jx...@psu.edu -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty

is the one exception. It is the only Group 2 entity listed as an attribute of a Work. All of the others are entities with a relationship to the work. kc Jonathan Karen Coyle wrote: Quoting John Attig jx...@psu.edu: Signatory to a treaty, etc. is therefore one of several identifying

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty

, and do think that it is worth revisiting. A controlled concept of place can be useful beyond the FRBR subject entity, such as place of publication, and the place of birth for persons. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty

what we have and what we can do with it. kc But it's a complicated metadata world we libraries live in Jonathan -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting  1-510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty

advantage of the consistency? Would anyone want to launch an online map from these fields? Would that make it worth it? kc It is clear that cataloging practices have a way to go before we can really take advantage of linked-data. John -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http

Re: [RDA-L] Signatory to a treaty

should get some fresh air. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Consolidated ISBD and RDA double punctuation

with some input from Amazon. B.Eversberg -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

. But we have trouble having that conversation because the data structure and rules are so intertwined that we can't discuss them separately. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

Rome, Italy -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] OPAC displays for a digital environment

-- they are dynamic, not static. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] OPAC displays for a digital environment

/Data+and+Studies which has a tab-delimited dump of fixed fields and one of variable fields. (It occurs to me that I need to add the recent $0 subfields, so I'll try to get to that and replace those files.) I think much of this can be done algorithmically. kc -- Karen Coyle kco

Re: [RDA-L] Examples of RDA bibliographic records

help. Stephen Van Houten Technical Services Specialist Aurora Public Library 1100 Church Road Aurora, IL 60505 (630) 723-2733 Fax (630) 264-2770 sv...@aurora.lib.il.us -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Time and effort

/index.htm office 940-565-3560 fax 940-565-3101 ** -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Time and effort

. It is what some of us see as the current best next data carrier for library data. It wouldn't have to change the meaning of our data, but would definitely change its form. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Time and effort

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] on behalf of Karen Coyle [li...@kcoyle.net] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:43 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Time and effort Quoting Matthew Short

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Questions

you really need to print this? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.448 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3183 - Release Date: 10/07/10 18:34:00 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] FRBRized data available for bulk download

W501 (812) 856-5759 www.dlib.indiana.edu Inquiring Librarian blog: www.inquiringlibrarian.blogspot.com -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] All our eggs in one basket?

) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] All our eggs in one basket?

matters. Hal Cain Melbourne, Australia hec...@dml.vic.edu.au This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Web catalog

meaning, Jim, but I did want to remove the page structure from the discussion. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Protesting RDA, utilize URIs in RDA

. And hasn't WikiPedia done that from the beginning? B.Eversberg -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Confusion between Field of activity and Profession or occupation

] Can anyone explain the distinction between the two fields better than we've been able to? -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Abbrevitions in RDA records

in 357 not 357 p. or 357 pages. You should never have to key something that is in a controlled vocabulary -- those should be check boxes or drop-downs. And don't get me started on punctuation. Really, folks, it's almost 2011. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540

Re: [RDA-L] core-elements

centraal catalogiseren Coordination Central Cataloguing rosa.matt...@bibnet.bemailto:rosa.matt...@bibnet.be +32 (0)9 223 42 11 +32 (0)486 85 79 27 Bibnet vzw www.bibnet.behttp://www.bibnet.be/ Priemstraat 51 B-1000 Brussel -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m

Re: [RDA-L] Strai/gh/t jacket?

that could take decade. Let me know if you can help!) kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Strai/gh/t jacket?

that we haven't gone in this direction already. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Form

extensions still need to be undertaken. Again, I recommend this presentation to anyone who is thinking about going beyond the current state of the models. John -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Form

and the publisher entity. Whether that relationship is explicitified elsewhere in the description cloud is a separate question. Misha Schutt Catalog Librarian Burbank (Calif.) Public Library (818) 238 5570 msch...@ci.burbank.ca.us www.burbanklibrary.com -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net

Re: [RDA-L] Form

the controlled data, and it isn't always clear. The advantage of using identifiers for controlled data is that you know immediately which elements are controlled. Having that be clearer would greatly aid use and re-use of library data. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph

Re: [RDA-L] Purpose of transcribed imprint (was: Form)

Quoting J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca: Karen Coyle said: Any place in our records where we do not provide controlled or controllable data we are cutting off any possibility of making use of that for anything but display. The purpose of the transcribed imprint is *identification*. If 260$l

Re: [RDA-L] Form

(RDA 21.3). In RDA -- as in previous cataloging rules -- we try not to mix transcribed data and controlled data in the same element -- but that does not mean that the rules do not make provision for both types of data. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510

Re: [RDA-L] Purpose of transcribed imprint

uncontrolled, transcribed things. It's a free text search, not a use of data. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Purpose of transcribed imprint (was: Form)

of what functions the publisher identity could serve (either for user access or for library systems). Regardless of the answers to the above questions, it seems that we may be misleading users when we label this data as Publisher in our systems. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http

Re: [RDA-L] Browse and search RDA test data

.) B.Eversberg -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Browse and search RDA test data

://metadataregistry.org/rdabrowse.htm -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Browse and search RDA test data

move things forward. There have been lots of meetings and conferences on the topic of linked data (which is what RDA is designed to be once it is expressed), and there are folks experimenting with that. Let's continue and encourage that experimentation. kc -- Karen Coyle kco

Re: [RDA-L] Browse and search RDA test data

information with other communities. (Which I am assuming we are interested in doing.) When I get some time I will try to write up the different WEMI views I am gathering. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

counties? __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

in SemWeb format is beginning to be listed here, but there really isn't a central clearing house: http://ckan.net/group/lld -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Harvesting data

. Your writing, Karen, may be having effects you did not intend. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__ \__ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net

Re: [RDA-L] Harvesting data

Quoting J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca: Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net wrote: Mac, it is having affects I DO intend. They just aren't ones that you want. You really want SLC to abandon using LAC records and create our own records from ONIX? What I think is the issue is whether

[RDA-L] Amazon to MARC

on a Mac and on a PC and the software acted very differently -- I don't know why. On the PC it gives me various displays and a name look-up against a libcat catalog so I can do name authority selection. If you don't get this on a Mac, try it on a PC. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http

Re: [RDA-L] Amazon to MARC

to extract the actual ISBN. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Amazon to MARC

/ ___} |__ \__ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

suppose those things will work in an XML-based data sharing community. But the changes that some of us think matter are changes to our data model and data definitions, not to the carrier. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

- identifiers, controlled lists, etc. I'd love to be able to model it in an interface so we could see how it looks both for input and display. I figure that's a ways off, since this is one of those spare time projects. kc On 1/15/2011 2:00 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: Quoting Weinheimer

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

that goes into, for example, the creation of these music constructed titles and to know that it's all be undone because of ambiguity in our coding. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

use to record it. In MARC, the 245 is the most confounded element - no, textual paragraph. B.Eversberg -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 awilli...@colgate.edu -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Extracting titles from MARC

thoughtfully we can actually do better than we do in MARC today. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] First step on MARC data elements

on the meaning of the elements, and not expect the structure of the carrier to provide that. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

York, etc. Elsevier Inc., etc.] Ed Jones -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:37 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

Authority Control Librarian Penn State University jx...@psu.edu On 2/3/2011 12:41 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: Quoting Kevin M. Randall k...@northwestern.edu: Fields 760-787 have strictly speaking never been dual function fields, because they are not defined in the MARC format as access

Re: [RDA-L] Linked data

Rules: http://sites.google.com/site/opencatalogingrules/ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] RDA provisions

/ ___} |__ \__ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] RDA and MARC (was Linked data)

works in a manifestation than we have in book cataloging. I'd be interested to hear if there are other cataloging subsets that have handled this well -- law? maps? serials? kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet

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