Re: Worldwide review of Functional Requirements of Authority Data

be sent by July 15, 2007 to: Glenn Patton OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. 6565 Kilgour Place Dublin OH 43017-3395 Phone: +1.800.848.5878, ext. 6371 or +1.614.764.6371 Fax: +1.614.718.7187 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library

Re: [FRBR] Martha Yee's comments on FRAD

hoping that someone does.) I have some other comments of my own on the draft, but I need to do a second reading. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re:

. Everything we do today will be manipulated by computers, and computers do not understand words. So we have to always think about the machine when we create our data. However, that doesn't mean that we don't design our data for humans; we have to design for both. kc Karen Coyle

Re: RDA scope and structure

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Re: Alternate titles, an example of description broken into bits

of each element (or at least of any elements that are not accurately reflected in the record-level language coding). John Attig [not writing as:] ALA Representative to the JSC -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: linking word element needed

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Re: Wrong model--entity relationship?

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Re: Metadata terms in RDA

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Re: Dublin Core metadata in RDA

the topic! Thanks, kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: Dublin Core metadata in RDA

explicit relationships (eg that cover title and title proper are all types of title), but those are probably well known. Hmmm, if I have some idle time with net access I may try to model this as a vocabulary. kc J. McRee Elrod wrote: Karen Coyle said: The library cataloging rules (of any stripe

Re: Headings and user friendly catalogues

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Re: Headings and user friendly catalogues

couldn't get ahold of the complete file. These are all the terms that made it into our own catalog through the channels of record sharing. B.Eversberg -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype

Re: Headings and user friendly catalogues

because some have been removed as duplicates. This is rarely noticed because few users attempt to go beyond the first few pages. (I once saw an explanation of this on Google itself, but cannot find it now.) kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL

Re: Application profiles and RDA

to my message of 28th July under the subject heading [RDA-L] Metadata terms in RDA and my message of 9th September under the subject heading [RDA-L] Dublin Core metadata in RDA. I am grateful to Mac Elrod, Karen Coyle, Irvin Flack, Jonathan Rochkind, Diane Hillmann, Gordon Dunsire and others

Re: Application profiles and RDA

J. McRee Elrod wrote: Karen Coyle said: We have to look at WHY we do things, not just how we do them. Truer words have perhaps never been written. We have to remember *why* patrons need statement of responsibility as on the item. why patrons need place of publication, why the distinction

Re: Application profiles and RDA

and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:40 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Application profiles and RDA J. McRee Elrod wrote: Karen Coyle said: We have to look at WHY we do things, not just how we do them. Truer words have

Re: FW: [RDA-L] Application profiles and RDA

Improving Online Public Access Catalogs. Martha M. Yee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:16 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject

Re: Catalog use research

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Re: Catalog use research

these double negatives, and the number of truly expert users is quite low. kc Karen Coyle wrote: Martha Yee wrote: “Research in catalog use is very difficult to carry out for a number of reasons. I've been trying to find a copy of the report that Karen Markey did for the Future of Bibliographic

Re: LC WG Report: General comments

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Re: LC WG Report: General comments

PROTECTED] On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Diane I. Hillmann wrote: Karen Coyle wrote: Diane, during the last open meeting, Lorcan Dempsey read a few figures from a statistical report of OCLC's. I don't remember the details, but it was about the number of holdings attached to LoC records v. non-LoC, and his

Re: LC WG Report: Sect. 4 Recommendations

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Re: What is a work: was LC WG Report: Sect. 4 Recommendations

NOT lamenting the demise of the card catalog. It's just that I am appalled at the lack of OPAC development over the years. (In a sense, the phrase OPAC development is an oxymoron.) Kevin M. Randall -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [SPAM] Re: [RDA-L] LC WG Report: general comments from Martha Yee

. It's kind of like that day that I got an MS DOS machine with a 40 Mb harddrive and thought: I'll never have to upgrade again! Our data always grows until it catches up to the technology limits. kc Daniel CannCasciato wrote: quick question: Karen Coyle wrote: 1. MARC is a full record replace

Re: Mutually exclusive motivations

the concept of work, in a way similar to the FRBR concept, though maybe not identical. Their only other level is book, which is roughly equivalent to manifestation. -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510

Re: RDA Scope definitions

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Re: Thoughts on place of publication

structure along with the cataloging rules to make sure that the two work in concert and that once the data is coded it still provides what was intended by the cataloging rules. Right now, I'm not sure that's the case. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant

More on RDA literal/non-literal issue

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Re: More on RDA literal/non-literal issue

it in the near future in our data carrier. The hard thing is explaining WHY we need to, so I'll try to work up a post on that as well. kc Flack, Irvin wrote: Karen Coyle wrote... I have posted more on the use of literals and non-literals in RDA on my blog: http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/ Here is my

Re: More on RDA literal/non-literal issue

That was thank you so much not that you so much. Sorry. (The latter sounds painful.) kc Karen Coyle wrote: Irvin, that you so much for your post. (I have to moderate comments to my blog, which is why you don't see them appear right away. It's the only way I have to avoid spam there.) I may

Re: Metadata for Proceedings of the Symposium on Art and Music ...

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Re: Metadata for Proceedings of the Symposium on Art and Music ...

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Re: Measuring quality of cataloguing

that facilitates access to materials. Once we figure out that reason we can also begin to think about is it worth the effort? kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510

Re: Variant access points?

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Re: Variant access points?

is that the variant access point is in fact a textual label only, which is not authorized to be used as a citation---ie, as an identifier. Jonathan Karen Coyle wrote: Adam, without going on about this too long (and recognizing that you are not personally responsible ) I would like to understand

Re: Compilations

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Re: Bibliographic identities (was Variant access points?)

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Re: Bibliographic identities (was Variant access points?)

the point of view of machine actionability and display labels, I guess only having this information in notes fields is not very useful. Adam -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype

Titles - was Variant access points?

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Re: Titles - was Variant access points?

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Re: Unexploited richness of cross references

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Re: GLBTRT Task Force on RDA and Gender in Authority Records

that she feels like a woman??? Marilyn Montalvo Montalvo, PhD Coordinadora de Automatización Sistema de Bibliotecas Universidad de Puerto Rico Recinto de Río Piedras Tel. 764- Ext. 7850 http://biblioteca.uprrp.edu - Original Message - From: Karen Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RDA-L

Re: GLBTRT Task Force on RDA and Gender in Authority Records

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Re: Cataloger Scenarios added to wiki

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Re: First Pass at RDA Elements

in the table. It is possible that some definitions could change as we go forward, but we'll probably keep the RDA definition in our documentation while working on the analysis.) kc B.Eversberg -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [RDA-L] Expression and Manifestation

book. It means that our data doesn't follow our own model, but if it had we'd be doing our users a real disservice. This is something we really need to fix in the next generation of our data. -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

[RDA-L] The question of meaning

in the same field, nor give them the same name. Not just us, BTW, this is true for all data. -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Expression and Manifestation

Greta de Groat wrote: Karen Coyle wrote: All expressions: the Work Which is the only way you can define the work, IMO. It's a sum of the expressions, not really something in itself, since it can't exist without expression. The expressions would be the sum of the manifestations... items add up

Re: [RDA-L] Expression and Manifestation

, etc.) and works, however, before we've really implemented anything that resembles FRBR. kc Martha Yee wrote: Karen Coyle wrote: The only use of FRBR in cataloging, that I'm aware of, is in the VTLS system, where you actually create the 4 Group I entities. I have seen brief demos but haven't

Re: [RDA-L] Expression and Manifestation

reading it could (probably) tell which was which. At least that was the idea). -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Expression and Manifestation

to the RLIN model) everyone had to use the same record for the basis of their cataloging. kc Mac -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Expression and Manifestation

J. McRee Elrod wrote: So one *could* have six records - two each for work. expression, and manifestation - for one little item. We don't know that we are talking about records, per se. This is the usual question of works embedded in other works and what we do about them. And it's also a

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Vocabularies Project

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Re: [RDA-L] RDA Vocabularies Project

information as the transcribed publisher name that is in the publication statement. kc Kevin M. Randall wrote: At 09:15 AM 5/3/2008, Karen Coyle wrote: The question with series is whether it shouldn't be another resource, linked to the bibliographic item being described. So then the series statement

Re: [RDA-L] JSC Meeting Outcomes April 2008

from RDA... Where will this data come from if not from the cataloging process? And why should our cataloging rules ignore data that we know we need? What is this magical Apart from RDA... and who will create it? kc John Attig wrote: At 09:27 AM 5/9/2008, Karen Coyle wrote: Adam L. Schiff wrote

Re: [RDA-L] JSC Meeting Outcomes April 2008

as if they will be used in a display-only environment, and that technology will just have to work with that as best it can. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913

Re: [RDA-L] JSC Meeting Outcomes April 2008

as possible from the publishers. There is data that they obviously have and presumably could pass on. And a simple identifier like the ISBN is actually a window to a whole host of information that could be used to populate a bibliographic record. kc -- --- Karen

Re: [RDA-L] JSC Meeting Outcomes April 2008

and non-library bibliographic data in combination. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] JSC Meeting Outcomes April 2008

. Randall wrote: At 12:04 PM 5/9/2008, Karen Coyle wrote: For example, there is no reason for anyone to have to key a publisher name for a modern book with an ISBN -- the identity of the publisher is inherent in the ISBN and that information could be system supplied (using a barcode scanner

Re: [RDA-L] Comments from Martha M. Yee on the April 10, 2008 version of the STATEMENT OF INTERNATIONAL CATALOGUING PRINCIPLES

most of all. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of International Cataloguing Principles

a transcription, but that would make it very unreliable as a search point.) I think it is a good thing that IFLA is looking at access more broadly than it has been addressed in the past. -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of International Cataloguing Principles

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Re: [RDA-L] Comments from Martha M. Yee on the April 10, 2008 version of the STATEMENT OF INTERNATIONAL CATALOGUING PRINCIPLES 1 of 2

it different from the authority record, and would mean that we would still have an authority record that controlled a universal view of the person. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype

Re: [RDA-L] Comments from Martha M. Yee on the April 10, 2008 version of the STATEMENT OF INTERNATIONAL CATALOGUING PRINCIPLES 1 of 2

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Re: [RDA-L] Comments from Martha M. Yee on the April 10, 2008 version of the STATEMENT OF INTERNATIONAL CATALOGUING PRINCIPLES 1 of 2

about how one connects the group 1 and group 23 entities in a work/expression/etc. record, given that some information will be specific to that group 1 instance. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540

Re: [RDA-L] The Person entity [was: Comments from Martha M. Yee ... 1 of 2]

the bibliographic identities. I don't think this is the same entity as the bibliographic persona yet we are using the same entity for both. This is probably where my dis-ease comes in. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph

Re: [RDA-L] [s.n.] used by Amazon; not confusing after all?

S.n. means? Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx

Re: [RDA-L] Full Draft of RDA Delayed

USA 1-733-878-4008 1-773-519-4009 (mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Full Draft of RDA Delayed

that it should be possible to pull off and format a concise for printing. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Full Draft of RDA Delayed

to be electronic, and it is not simply a text. The online product as it was described (and hopefully we'll soon see Naught's slides available online) will have features that go beyond a simple text of the rules and more toward a cataloging application. kc -- --- Karen Coyle

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

/story/story.bsp?sid=111018var=story [2] http://www.bisg.org/documents/certification_productdata.html Bryan Baldus Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of America's Independent Presses 1-800-323-4241x402 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

de Biblioteca Augustana-Hochschule / Bibliothek D-91564 Neuendettelsau | | ,__o |_-\_, | (*)/'(*) -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

of those points on the circle as possible. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

wealth of information in the report -- it's well worth studying. And I guess you CAN say that you learned about it from a librarian. ;-) http://www.oclc.org/reports/2005perceptions.htm kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [RDA-L] RDA subscription costsFull draft of RDA delivered

, and the economics of the whole RDA process. I think that ends up being the deciding factor. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

of name headings without some steps in between, and perhaps a few that follow. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] Variant series titles in RDA

of linked authority records. I'm not sure that would be such a bad idea, but I do think we should be consistent rather than basing the standard on some quirks of the current library data sharing process. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

catalogs. So I end my rant where I should have begun: WHAT'S THE QUESTION? before we argue that the library catalog is the answer. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510

Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

in the library's catalog. We have to quit thinking that catalog = library, and start looking at a wider range of services that we can (and do) provide. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype

Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

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Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

-- I occasionally catch a word that I understand, but meanwhile I do know that exciting things are happening and people are having fun. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet

Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

between doing the work and staying here trying to convince people that the work is important. I have to admit that I'm very tired of the latter. Sorry for the bitter tone. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph

Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

available solution and many uses of its data are not allowed, as is being currently discussed elsewhere. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

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Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

available on the web. That's what I want. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

) or for the more structured vocabularies, like the ISO language codes that have both a code and a display form of the language. I think it is already being used for vocabularies of this nature. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [RDA-L] libraries, society and RDA

of terms or codes available for use (as in an indexing system) Some terms are organized as thesauri (LCSH), some are not (list of languages). That's the difference. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540

Re: [RDA-L] RDA full draft

files so I zipped them all together and stored a copy at: http://www.archive.org/details/ResourceDescriptionAccessrdaDraftNov.2008 so I could get to them from anywhere. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Glossary

a huge amount of the RDA text in the Glossary. However, for the glossary to be useful, it seem s to me that some expansion will be needed. Perhaps that expansion will be possible in the online product. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL

[RDA-L] RDA and Identifiers

RDA appears to be leaning in the direction of linked data, the issue of identifiers for WEMI entities will undoubtedly come up again. This is an area where moving from the RDA rules to a usable data structure will require some effort. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital

Re: [RDA-L] RDA full draft

for 250 pages, printed and bound. Even at twice that price, I think libraries would be happy to purchase copies. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510

Re: [RDA-L] RDA full draft

University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234

Re: [RDA-L] RDA and reproductions

. are separate records (and I think it's not appropriate to think of them as records... that's a database implementation issue), the relationships need to be possible WHERE you can make them, and not to interfere where you cannot. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library

Re: [RDA-L] Access points. Was: RDA comments

then be a FRBR or FRAD entity. I would appreciate if someone on the RDA committee could confirm or deny this :-). It will help those of us working on the mapping (well, I think it will). Thanks, kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [RDA-L] ISBD: Proposed area 0 Content Form and Media Type. Invitation to Worldwide review (fwd)

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Re: [RDA-L] FRBR, RDA, and Platonism

available. There will be times when a particular manifestation is desired, but I'm seeing that as the unusual case. And particular items are mainly of interest to rare book scholars and circulation systems. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco

[RDA-L] lcsh.info taken down by LC

-- you did make a copy, didn't you? (I got that from a post of yours). I can't begin to say how outrageous I think this is, so I'll just shut up here. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype

Re: [RDA-L] FRBR, RDA ... and transcendental idealism

please delete it and notify the sender. ** -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco...@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510

Re: [RDA-L] FW: [RDA-L] Slave to the title page?

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Re: [RDA-L] [Fwd: Re: [RDA-L] FW: [RDA-L] Slave to the title page?]

some metadata from web documents, and it's possible that Google may make use of some of the html coding in its indexing. But I am convinced that we're going to have to get along without much human cooperation. kc -- --- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kco

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