On 12/09/2012 18:48, Alok wrote:
We had this in VS2010 for 2012 but I am not sure about 2013. Basically
what we did was to use our own MACROS or variable instead of the one
from setenv.bat. All you need to do is take your project generated
from the wizard , start visual studio normally with
It's definitely true about big companies writing their own software. From a
rigging standpoint, Maya has some good things but is definitely outdated
and unintuitive, and I'm not so fan of Softimage anymore as I used to be in
the old times. Requirements have changed, not softwares (excluding ICE).
I completely agree with this Marc. There is so much negative sentiment in
this thread that I'd be surprised if AD is still listening. Some of the
folks there are probably pretty proud to work for them and have a genuine
interest in Soft, so this thread is painful reading. I don't agree with the
Show your Passion !
;-)
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Am 13.09.2012 um 03:33 schrieb Sylvain Lebeau s...@shedmtl.com:
+100
Dont get me started gang.. you know i can go far!!
like
It aint my fault Oddball Ive had nothing but good thoughts ever since we
left that damn bridge
:)
On 13 September 2012 09:43, piotrek marczak piotrek.marc...@gmail.comwrote:
well said! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ
I agree, but it can be hard to be completely open about things due to the
business rules we have to adhere too.
What I would say in this case, is being as this studio is in EMEA- Europe, then
they should try and contact me, or the Autodesk rep (not the reseller), instead
of filling in the
Nevermind. Solved it by using XSIPLUGINCALLBACK instead of SICALLBACK.
-H
On 13.09.2012 12:46, Helge Mathee wrote:
Hey guys,
I am trying to implement a custom render pass right now, and I am
unsure how to start really.
Currently this is what I have (which crashes in 2013):
SICALLBACK
Graham,
is there some official word on when AD is planning the next release?
SAP is going to be skipped, is that correct? More service packs? Full
release in April, again?
These business rules that don't allow disclosure of roadmap information
are doing their part in this atmosphere of
Sorry, I can't confirm anything about a future release and its ship date.
Best I can say is look historically at recent releases, and you perhaps could
get the general idea.
G
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A correction in what I said before: Start a VS2010 *without* calling
setenv.bat
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Chris Chia chris.c...@autodesk.com wrote:
Troubleshoot:
Try to create a custom plugin (VS2010) of your own and see whether it
could be compiled...
Chris
On 13 Sep, 2012, at
Nice! looks really interesting job company Marco.
As an aside, just out of interest - how many freelance ICE FX guys or
girls left standing on this list that are available in the future for work
in UK / Europe?
I get asked regularly and most often am not available, and the seasoned up
fer
On 13/09/2012 11:40, Chris Chia wrote:
Troubleshoot:
Try to create a custom plugin (VS2010) of your own and see whether it could be
compiled...
Hi Chris,
It seems like just tweaking the .bat file solves the problem. I
originally had the call to vcvarsall.bat in, but when I commented it
I find it strange that the Autodesk layoffs and Softimage’s future
blog refers to Softimage as XSI
Just sayin'
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Andy Nicholas a...@andynicholas.comwrote:
+1000 Yep, well said Jules. The main reason we started up the London user
group
again was to try to
Hehe, in Andy's defence: when your Softimage launcher command is 'xsiXX'
it's a hard name to shift.
Of course, if it didn't crash as much we wouldn't have to type it in the
terminal so often, so really we should blame Autodesk.
On 13 September 2012 14:34, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net
Wow. I used XSI once (by mistake, and I'll correct it in a sec) compared to
six uses of Softimage, and somehow the whole blog is referring to XSI?
Seriously?!!
And does it really matter?
On 13 September 2012 at 14:34 Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote:
I find it strange that the
I really think it's a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand
is doing.
I think the devs, support, etc., folks are all going forward full-steam
ahead have a great outlook on things.
I think the pr, marketing management folks still call the software Soft
Image and don't seem to
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Daniel H vfxc...@gmail.com wrote:
Maya is only more prevalent in studios because it started out much cheaper
than Softimage ($10K vs. $100K). Softimage is 24 years old and Maya is only
14 years old. All this time Maya has only been trying to play catch-up to
The one thing I take from reading this thread is the Soft community at
large is generally upset and concerned. Whether the individual concerns
are real or perceived, I would think Autodesk would hear the frustration
and appreciate where it's coming from. Even speak to how to resolve it
perhaps.
Hey X,
About the 3rd item, you just need to make sure the system libraries are
loaded before XSI's own by putting them first in the
*LD_LIBRARY_PATH*environment variable.
Here's a workaround sample code to start subprocesses in Linux that worked
for me last time:
import osimport subprocess
sweet, your name looks very familiar - I'd vouch for you, your in Sir,
welcome! :D
but seriously, we need to start looking out for each other, if there are
jobs out there that cant be filled because there are so little of us
available and / or we are too busy - well my feeling is they will not be
There's a patent for XSI's QuickStretch deformer:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=NxcgEBAJzoom=4dq=softimagepg=PA2#v=onepageqf=false
How valuable! :p lol
Kidding aside, there's a few more:
https://www.google.com/search?tbo=ptbm=ptshl=enq=inassignee:%22Softimage%22
like one for cel shading.
One of my all-time favorite movies.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:43 AM, piotrek marczak
piotrek.marc...@gmail.comwrote:
well said! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ
Well said Jeff.
Maurice, if you're still reading, please consider his summary of Soft as a
Generalists tool, because I feel that he pretty much nails it. Sure perhaps
Soft is the closest thing AD has to compete with Houdini, so I understand
the particles angle. However if you limit the scope to
Ha ha!
Scott Lange
Animation and VFX
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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ed Manning
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:11 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: In case you missed it..
One
Yep, I'm still skulking in the shadows, a trail of turbuliSed, RPC rendered
smoke curling out from my silhouette. Currently being Debbie McGee to
Anthony Martin's Paul Daniels ; ) We're having a wizard time!
There are loads of us Softy freelancers around, fear not Tekano. We're
way cooler
good on yer Olly, you were already on the shortlist, was aware you were not
available atm from your tweets ;)
And as I always saydon't drink from the mainstream ; )
Olly x
so, still calling all Softimage FX talent available to work in the UK /
Europe area, with a slot available in Belgium right now!
Much appreciated Rob!
ps: If I can't find someone today, we're gonna switch to MAYA ;-)
Marco
On 13 Sep 2012, at 17:28, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote:
Hate to be the one to send the negative wave, but if this thread convinced
me of anything is that they will absolutely not be doing what you ask.
Here's what Maurice said:
Whether what we are doing is being elegantly done or not, Autodesk, across
its industries,is trying to alter public
+1 for Jeff and Eric.
Softimage is, of the 3 AD 3D products, by far the best tool for a small or
medium shop. Max seems to be good for solo performers or the places that
take the time to really engineer a pipeline for it. Maya, as many here
have noted, is great in a large-scale industrial
@ Marco, oh noes! we cant let it happen, hitting the twittersphere hard
right now! :D
the SI_ICE_FX_TD freelance list is growing by the minute but so far we are
all booked up !
Much appreciated Rob!
ps: If I can't find someone today, we're gonna switch to MAYA ;-)
Marco
Softimage is without-a-doubt the best choice for small shops and
freelancers (out of the 3 products Autodesk offers). Could it be that
nobody is left who really knows what Softimage has/can do?
So... Maurice, if you're still reading, maybe you can consider some of this?
Softimage comes with
Not a freelancer, and not in Europe (Montreal in fact), but it never hurts
to say hello to fellow ICE artists!
So... Hello!
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote:
@ Marco, oh noes! we cant let it happen, hitting the twittersphere hard
right now! :D
the
woop woop! our numbers are growing strong. Hello Mr Laborde in Canada!
On 13 September 2012 17:38, Jonathan Laborde labordeor...@gmail.com wrote:
Not a freelancer, and not in Europe (Montreal in fact), but it never hurts
to say hello to fellow ICE artists!
So... Hello!
Matt essentially nailed it on the head. It boils down to actions speak
louder than words.
To me... Soft died when Ronald left. That was the sign that things were
going south internally. It's been downhill ever since.
--
Gene Crucean - Emmy winning - Oscar nominated VFX Supervisor / iOS-OSX
it seems like it does not recognise XSISDK_ROOT?
We usually execute the command prompt from the workgroup (right click and
choose command prompt) inside XSI and it will inherit the env_variable, and
execute 'devenv' for VS...
Chris
On 13 Sep, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Julian Johnson
did Ronald leave same time as Halfy? I miss his contributions too :(
On 13 September 2012 17:51, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.comwrote:
Matt essentially nailed it on the head. It boils down to actions speak
louder than words.
To me... Soft died when Ronald left. That was the sign
Ronald left before Halfy (which was early 2011) I think - he's been at
Ubisoft for a long time now. He seemed quite happy the last time I saw him
:)
On 13 September 2012 12:56, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote:
did Ronald leave same time as Halfy? I miss his contributions too :(
On 13
Here is anonther young ICE-fanatic.
But i am busy, and quite happy, for the next 352 Days.
So you could add me to the list, and hope Softimage would be still there
in 2013. :)
i ran into this earlier this year, but i didn't know why. because oddly it
worked inside the sitoa plugin but not in its own plugin i think
because sitoa defines its own macro (SITOA_CALLBACK)
s
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Helge Mathee helge.mat...@gmx.net wrote:
Nevermind. Solved it
You know, I admit we are not perfect myself included, I admit we cannot give
the same amount of Marketing coverage as Softimage had pre-acquisition, and I
accept that you are justified in feeling we have failed you. However I do not
accept that we do not understand the products or the industry.
Hi Maurice,
I really appreciate your honesty.
Most of us have invested a great deal of time and money in Softimage/XSI
so we are very
passionate about the software, for us it has been over 15 years.
It is almost like a marriage and religion, it is not easy just to walk
away from it and we
I wouldn't call myself an Ice Fx guy, but I tweak Ice all day :)
I don't know, I like it, it's additive. I think I can't stand a keyframe
anymore...
I'm in Paris, I'm good friend with your neighbors Nozon (@ Bruxelles),
But one of this day I'd love to visit you.
This
Still reading, and the discussion has been stimulating as we start planning for
next year's activities (can't say more rev accounting at all that)
maurice
Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
That's great to hear! I'd have to agree, SI is a fantastic and very
complete solution for small to mid size shops. Hopefully, there is some
targeted advertising in this area.
On 9/13/2012 1:39 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:
Still reading, and the discussion has been stimulating as we start
I have never heard of this man!
Oh... it's you... Alan...
[?]
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.comwrote:
I work a few metres from Mr Laborde and find ICE quite fun also. ;)
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.comwrote:
woop
One area I would like to get feedback on is how do we get the right things
happening on facebook? Advertising is way beyond our budgets in general and not
very effective unless we have a very specific call to action (e.g. upgrades),
as a result most advertsing is driven by sales promos. However
Lagoa and EM Polygonizer are great examples of getting the word out.
Their demo videos went viral within our industry, but also wound up finding
their way onto non-industry sites that like to post cool videos. Heck, even
a political blog I read posted the Lagoa video from way back when, which
was
exactly, simple things like just including softimage.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:
I think more effective marketing campaigns could be achieved without
spending any money.
There are superb examples scattered all over. The problem is, they're
scattered all over. Perhaps we should start a thread for Maurice
featuring the best of the best so he has something to easily pick from.
I always think of this one
http://www.subaru-global.com/news2011n001100.html as one
as a guy who brings on multiple interns every summer and hires some upon
graduation, i can assure you that your incorrect.
they have a shot at a job with me?
often they are Maya guys..who transition at my shop to Softimage.
my only regret is that the schools .dont give em a head start
Here's one:
Keep an eye out on the Vimeo ICE channel for awesome videos and link to
them if they are particularly impressive: https://vimeo.com/groups/ice
Be all like check out this great commercial done with Softimage or Wow,
that's a nice ICE effect that blabla did for this short film here.
Started a thread here:
http://www.si-community.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=36t=2739p=22739#p22739
for collecting the best ever samples. Hopefully there will be lots to
pick from shortly so it won't take much of your time to post away...
On 9/13/2012 2:26 PM, Maurice Patel wrote:
One area
Least important, but cost-free: ask for putting Softimage in that bloody
autodesk start page menu alongside max and Maya!
(...whatever)
Am 13.09.2012 22:49, schrieb Steven Caron:
exactly, simple things like just including softimage.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Matt Lind
Facebook? ok but I am speaking in general.
I see Softimage as being portrayed, inaccurately, incompletely and
inefficiently in regards to the positioning it is getting in the general
sales and marketing arenas. The recent suggestions are a great way to show
what Softimage actually is however
I often post animation or FX that I find to be particularly interesting. I
have friends who work in many different fields, many of them creative, and
that includes Ad Agency account people, Art and Creative Directors, most of
whom at one time or another I have gently guided them through some
I need to think about this one. It's a real problem. We don't even have
resources to do that for Flame which is one of our top revenue products - and I
get beat up about that too.
Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
Thnaks will do
Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Alan Fregtman
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:04 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: In case you missed
Unfortunately, like I said unless you are in the top revenue generating
products that is not going to happen and it has nothing to do with Softimage,
there are dozens of products that would vie to be on the list and so the rules
are strict. I cannot even get Flame or Smoke on the list. This is
I'd just like to point out that Stephen wasn't fired, he was unfortunately
among the layoffs.
I know it's being pedantic, but let's keep to the facts.
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sam Cuttriss
Sent: 13 September 2012
I agree.
I don't know about anybody else, but I could care less about demo reels. The
only time I see them is when I'm at a user group or waiting for a product
demonstration to begin, and since there are no more user groups and product
demos are basically web downloads, where do I see demos
Hi Matt,
You are spot on when it comes to the importance of relevant information. Last
year I specifically worked with the AREA Team on this issue. We had a challenge
that unless you are a top revenue product you disappear on .com and there was
no one place that was really good to send people
I think there are a lot of imposters
On 13 September 2012 21:19, Jonathan Laborde labordeor...@gmail.com wrote:
I have never heard of this man!
Oh... it's you... Alan...
[?]
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.comwrote:
I work a few metres from Mr Laborde
Absolutely any student can go to the education portal and download it for free
for 3 years. And the product we sell to education institutions is this one:
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112id=13395078
It is true that the fact that students can access any Autodesk product for
De愒r Mr. L惴ydec愉er (a.k.a. Tim?),
Some愀ne went and re惴laced all y惻ur apos愒rop愉es with random Asi愀n te惴t
symbols.
Sinc惴rely,
Your friendly neighborhood Grammarman.
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On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi Maurice,
isn愒
As I said before, students are only part of the answer, but part none the
less...
It IS working and the beauty of it is that AD has to do very little, we (the
pros in it) are already doing it, the recruiting, the training, etc., and it
works. Some go back to Maya, but none in my experience
Sorry Brad,
thanks for the heads-up. My ,/. are swapped as well...
It´s time to say good-bye to this xp64 install and boot into win7.
The chinese symbols came with job. It´s hard to get rid of them,
once you´ve been there. I´m writting UTF-8 thought?
What would you suggest?
Cheers,
tim
I also do most of my work in that area, although I'm usually asked to build
tools for fx and not use them...
Feel free to contact me when you need another set of hands in Europe.
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote:
I think there are a lot of imposters
On
I should have clarified, I meant Houdini only for assembly/effects/rendering,
certainly not for modelling/rigging/animation...
N
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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane
Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 10:32
Figure out what client AD uses internally, and never use that again, at
least not with those settings.
No web mail client I can think of seems able to collapse any quote after it
goes through their servers from hell.
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm
I find it amazing that XSI, once considered the laughingstock of the dcc
animation apps with respect to its particle system is now surviving mostly
because of the strength of its particle system.
And the irony of course is, ICE is not really a particle system and
marketing it as such has always
+1000 to everyone for turning this thread into something constructive!
I love you all!
...and yeah, I am two hours early for work :/
/Thomas
Maurice Patel maurice.pa...@autodesk.com hat am 14. September 2012 um 00:34
geschrieben:
Hi Matt,
You are spot on when it comes to the importance of
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