Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread robert luis rabello
Hakan Falk wrote: After looking in my office, I discovered that my computer (a notebook) was gone and so was my wife's, further checking proved that some more valuables was gone. If it wasn't for Foxy, probably or lot more would have been gone. I'm sorry for your loss, Hakan. The human

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread Doug Younker
Sorry to hear of your loss Hakan. I have had items taken from vehicles on two occasions, but those pale in comparison to your experience. I hope you don't experience further problems due to the left and things normalize soon. To the extent that's possible anyway. Doug

[Biofuel] A beginners titration question

2005-08-11 Thread dougmemering
Hello group, I am a beginner in the conversion of WVO to BD and I have been having trouble with my titration process. On JTF there are 2 reference documents on titration which I have been using as my guide. However, I don't seem to get consistent results. For example, One time I will get

[Biofuel] Re: A beginners titration question

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Doug Hello group, I am a beginner in the conversion of WVO to BD and I have been having trouble with my titration process. On JTF there are 2 reference documents on titration which I have been using as my guide. There's more than that there about titration. However, I don't seem to

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
Dear Hakan I'm so sorry to hear this bad news. That is a severe violation, and it can take a little time to get over it. I'm sure I can say you have everybody's sympathy and support at the Biofuel list, if that's of any use to you. Please let us know if there's something we can do to help.

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
Dag Pieter Hello, Sorry if I start talking about something you are not talking about, because I did not follow this discussion, but I think I can make up that you try to solidify ethanol. You can do that very easy with wallpaperglue ( Carboxyl methyl cellulose ). Just use ethanol in stead of

Re: [Biofuel] Re: A beginners titration question

2005-08-11 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Doug. Keith has made an excellent input to you questions but I felt it necessary to add some aspects of your problem: The rule no1 when taking samples is to make sure - as possible- that the sample is representative for the batch. This sounds simple, but if you are dealing with high water

Re: [Biofuel] The myths of Hiroshima

2005-08-11 Thread capt3d
hi tom. yes, you have the right picture, though it actually went further. it wasn't just a matter of *trying* to reach consensus before acting. unanimous consensus was essentially mandatory (an artifact of their particular brand of imperial government perhaps: disharmony/discord could not

[Biofuel] Tax question

2005-08-11 Thread Jeremy Farmer
Can anyone help me out here? I am looking into producing Biodiesel for electricity generation. I know the energy bill has a tax incentive, but are there other ones? I read something about a treas. department break for using a renewable source for electricity. Does anyone out there have any

RE: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes

2005-08-11 Thread burak-l
Hello; There are some MC's running on diesel. In india they are selling old british (Enfield Bullets) bikes converted to diesel. In Europe there are some small companies working diesel based bikes. But out of the big manufacturers (Suzuki Honda Yanaha Kawasaki BMW Harley etc) none of them has

Re: [Biofuel] Re: A beginners titration question

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Jan Hello Doug. Keith has made an excellent input to you questions but I felt it necessary to add some aspects of your problem: The rule no1 when taking samples is to make sure - as possible- that the sample is representative for the batch. This sounds simple, but if you are dealing with

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread AntiFossil
Hakan, I am sorry for your loss as well, but more than that, I am hoping that the sense of violation of your home space does not last. Here's to a quick, and lasting, return to the sanctity and security of your home.On 8/11/05, Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip AntiFossilMN, USA"Behind the

[Biofuel] TDI BIKES

2005-08-11 Thread Rademan, Jacobus
THANX CHRIS AND KEITH,I will take a look at the sites. To all ,do u think a old washing machine will make out a nice big blender for procesing larger batches , or will it turn the mix too fast,just a thought for later experiments thanx Kobus S.A . Baie dankie aan julle almal.

Re: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
TDI Harley? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello; There are some MC's running on diesel. In india they are selling old british (Enfield Bullets) bikes converted to diesel. In Europe there are some small companies working diesel based bikes. But out of the big manufacturers (Suzuki Honda Yanaha

Re: [Biofuel] TDI BIKES

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
Depends how much power you run throught it... Rademan, Jacobus wrote: THANX CHRIS AND KEITH,I will take a look at the sites. To all ,do u think a old washing machine will make out a nice big blender for procesing larger batches , or will it turn the mix too fast,just a thought for later

Re: [Biofuel] Tax question

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
I use BD to generate power for my own use - I would be curious to hear about your research. Jeremy Farmer wrote: Can anyone help me out here? I am looking into producing Biodiesel for electricity generation. I know the energy bill has a tax incentive, but are there other ones? I read

RE: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread malcolm maclure
Hakan, Sorry to here the news of your loss, I know how you are feeling, we live in a city with our fair share of drug crime problems. We have had 3 break-ins I have lost tools that I use for work etc. There is nothing worse than that feeling of intrusion violation; I hope you can

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
Hakan, Sorry to hear about your experience. It made me think about how I can secure my home - so at least one person will benefit from your sharing it with us. Good luck with your servers. I'm in the computer business too - I know what a hassle it is. -Mike Keith Addison wrote: Dear

Re: [Biofuel] ASTM, was ... Diesel Won't Solve...

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
I picked them off the DoD page. 1,500, 1,800, it's still a large number, and it does not include Iraqis. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: those are very conservative (not in the right-wing sense) numbers. there are already close to 1800 killed, and even mcglaughlin--hardly a liberal or a

Re: [Biofuel] ASTM, was ... Diesel Won't Solve...

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
Tom Irwin wrote: Hi Mike, Don´t worry you´re not going to burst my bubble. Mid term elections are coming up. I really hope the Republicans try to pass it before those so they can get clobbered in the House. Trying it after the mid term elections offers a bit more politically cover but

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
Where do you live? I am in Virginia and keep mine in carboys outside. I keep it in the coolest part of the yard and it's been ok for 6 months or so. Maybe one of the greybeards might chime in here an Theresa Sims wrote: Hi Mike Outside in 20L drums Ian - Original Message - From:

[Biofuel] Quality Test

2005-08-11 Thread Jeffrey Tan
Hello all. Need some explanation and advise here on my experiments please. I have been using virgin cooking palm oil for the experiments. When following the steps for checking on quality, I put in 150ml of de ionised battery water and 150ml of the biodiesel obtained but the end result was

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread Mark Manchester
Hakan! How awful. I can see that this violation is resonating for you in sympathy with all people who have their sense of safety and dignity tread upon. I have read hundreds of your letters, I know you are a good man, working hard to foster safety and well-being in the world. Try to

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread Hakan Falk
Thanks Robert, It is not the first time it happens in my life and material losses are the easiest to overcome. It is also something that happens to a lot of people at least once in the life time. As you rightfully pointed out, it is about the right of feeling secure in your own home, a

Re: [Biofuel] ASTM, was ... Diesel Won't Solve...

2005-08-11 Thread John Hayes
Tom Irwin wrote: They can keep the pictures of the flag drapped caskets from view but it´s really the wounded they´re going to have the most problems with. You can pretty much calculate that half of those 11,500 have been horribly maimed or burned. Bombs and booby traps do that kind of thing.

Re: [Biofuel] TDI BIKES

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
THANX CHRIS AND KEITH,I will take a look at the sites. To all ,do u think a old washing machine will make out a nice big blender for procesing larger batches , or will it turn the mix too fast,just a thought for later experiments Some reading for you in the archives - the whole thread is

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
rich wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't do this! While the comment below may be technically correct, there aren't 'enough' of us to do this and buying shares only encourages Monsanto to keep it up. IMHO our energies and monies are better spent trying to expose the lies, hidden agendas,

[Biofuel] Re: A beginners titration question

2005-08-11 Thread dougmemering
Thanks Jan for the explanation. And Keith I am sorry that I irritated you with a dumb question, I will avoid that in the future. Doug ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] ASTM, was ... Diesel Won't Solve...

2005-08-11 Thread John Hayes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: those are very conservative (not in the right-wing sense) numbers. there are already close to 1800 killed, and even mcglaughlin--hardly a liberal or a dove--repeats figures in excess of 25000 for woulded/maimed/incapacitated. Actually, as of 10 Aug 2005, the DoD

Re: [Biofuel] Tax question

2005-08-11 Thread John Hayes
Jeremy Farmer wrote: Can anyone help me out here? I am looking into producing Biodiesel for electricity generation. I know the energy bill has a tax incentive, but are there other ones? I read something about a treas. department break for using a renewable source for electricity. Does

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, I will put locks on internal partition doors. My study will have a reinforced door with security locks, maybe with an electric opener and hidden magnetic switch. It must be easy to live with, otherwise it is not used. Setting up computers are very time consuming. Now, when I have a

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread Greg and April
Sorry to hear about it, no one should have to go through what you did. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 23:58 Subject: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power 26 hours ago,

[Biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ( Was: Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes )

2005-08-11 Thread Greg and April
120 miles per gallon at 80 miles per hour !! Diesel Power Military Motorcycles http://blogs.motorbiker.org/Blogs.nsf/dx/07262003184414MIKMMQ.htm Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle http://blogs.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/05272004112942MWED66.htm http://www.f1engineering.com/

[Biofuel] Re: A beginners titration question

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
Thanks Jan for the explanation. And Keith I am sorry that I irritated you with a dumb question, I will avoid that in the future. For heaven's sake, that's the second time! I wasn't irritated, but now I am! You got good information, do you want a red ribbon round it too? :-( Keith Addison

Re: [Biofuel] Lye and Methanol in Ottawa (was no subject)

2005-08-11 Thread Vincent zadworny
hey ray, i produce bio diesel here in vancouver and have found a few different places that sell methanol and lye. a company called UNIVAR supplies both products out here for the larger amounts but when i was first starting i didn't need a 55 gallon drum and a 1kg bag so i found a smaller place

Re: [Biofuel] Quality Test

2005-08-11 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Jeffery. The test method that you are using seems to me highly dubious, since there are a number of pre-assumptions that has to be met. For a further check I´d suggest this: Take exactly 25 ml of biodiesel and dissolve it in exactly 225 ml of methanol in a measuring glass. Now: The biodiesel

Re: [Biofuel] Re: A beginners titration question

2005-08-11 Thread Fred Finch
Keith, Great Information, You got ribbons too? My daughter might want one!! fred On 8/11/05, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Jan for the explanation. And Keith I am sorry that I irritated you with a dumb question, I will avoid that in the future. For heaven's sake,

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread Brian Rodgers
Dear Hakan Hakan Falk wrote: 26 hours ago, I woke up to the sound of our dogs barking. I slept hard, so she probably gone on for a while. When she would not stop, I went up to tell her of. She was standing in the front door that was open, just as much as she could not get out. After looking

Re: [Biofuel] ain't no chemist

2005-08-11 Thread Brian Rodgers
Oh boy I bet you all couldn't wait to hear what my next stupid question will be. I also ain't no chemist, very few of us are chemists, but we can learn, and do. When I read this from Keith I just had to speak out again. Thank goodness. I was beginning to feel like everything you all talk

Re: [Biofuel] The myths of Hiroshima

2005-08-11 Thread Brian Rodgers
robert luis rabello wrote I just watched a documentary on the Nagasaki bombing a few nights ago. One of the points brought out in the film concerned the division within the "big 6", a council of Japanese military leaders, regarding the conditions for surrender. They knew their war had been

Re: [Biofuel] Distillation information

2005-08-11 Thread Brian Rodgers
Ken Provost wrote: on 8/9/05 2:34 PM, des at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While researching online re: methanol recovery, and the current thread on ethanol, I found what seems to be a great site on everything one would want to know about the distillation process. It's at:

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
Great. Not only do I have get rid of a gallon of RoundUp but now I have to REBALANCE my stock portfolio. Nuts. Anyone know about socially responsible investing funds? -Mike Keith Addison wrote: rich wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't do this! While the comment below may be

Re: [Biofuel] Lye and Methanol in Ottawa (was no subject)

2005-08-11 Thread Joe Street
Anhydrous methanol is available from monarch oils in Kitchener at $27.45 for 5 gal pail and $59.50 for 45 Gal drum. KOH available from Alphachem in Mississauga 2kg - $27.45 10 kg - $190.50 50 kg - $725.00 You need a hazardous materials transport license to transport more than 2kg and they

[Biofuel] Smallscale Methanol Prduction from Wood Gas

2005-08-11 Thread Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD)
Hi All I'm looking for information in small scale methanol production from wood Gas/synth gas. I have looked at a bunch of Plant level information. I kind of understand the chemistry. But operating a system at the pressures that are used in commercial production is bit impractical. Operation

[Biofuel] Re: Smallscale Methanol Prduction from Wood Gas

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mark Hi All I'm looking for information in small scale methanol production from wood Gas/synth gas. I have looked at a bunch of Plant level information. I kind of understand the chemistry. But operating a system at the pressures that are used in commercial production is bit impractical.

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread capt3d
hakan, sorry to hear the news. i've been there myself. i still remember very clearly how the intruder's grimy fingers left several very distinct fingerprints on a windowsill, which i pointed out to the police. they didn't bother to collect them. -chris b.

Re: [Biofuel] ASTM, was ... Diesel Won't Solve...

2005-08-11 Thread capt3d
or just using different data, or more complete data, or representing it more honestly. to suggest or imply dishonesty on the part of dod would hardly be a stretch. this is the same dod that so incredibly (intentionally?) mishandled the invasion/overthrow. the same dod that suppresses or

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, It is difficult to decide where to invest today and not feel that your money is supporting your enemies. If you invest in yourself first, you can be a good example of how to live gently on Mother Earth. Make sure you are living sustainably and eating healthy, local, naturally

RE: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread Mel Riser
Title: Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism if you buy a copy of Mother Jones magazine, there a lot's of funds that buy according to environmental wishes. Lot's of ads in the latest issue. mel -Original Message- From: Mike Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 8/11/2005 12:29 PM

[Biofuel] The Auto Industry's Last Hope

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050811/the_auto_industrys_last_hope.php The Auto Industry's Last Hope Greg Tarpinian August 11, 2005 Greg Tarpinian is the president and executive director, Labor Research Association, a New York City-based non-profit research and advocacy organization

[Biofuel] Sustainable World Coming

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 08/08/05 Sustainable World Coming Independent scientists, economists, politicians, and activists met to share knowledge and ideas for sustainable food systems as the industrial

Re: [Biofuel] Feeling of humiliation and lack of power

2005-08-11 Thread Tom Irwin
Hakan, I'm very sorry to hear of your loss as many others have expressed. I'm using an alarm system now to wake me up once my initial door or windowbarriers are breached. It'll probably give me a heart attack if it goes off while I'm asleep as it's very loud. This was the first vacation that

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
I used to subscribe but it made me so upset I let it lapse. Mel Riser wrote: if you buy a copy of Mother Jones magazine, there a lot's of funds that buy according to environmental wishes. Lot's of ads in the latest issue. mel -Original Message- *From:* Mike Weaver

Re: [Biofuel] The myths of Hiroshima

2005-08-11 Thread robert luis rabello
Brian Rodgers wrote: Was this documentary called Lifting of the fog: the Bombings of Hiroshima And Nagasaki? No. The documentary dealt specifically with Nagasaki. Two of the men onboard the Bocks Car B 29 were interviewed, as well as a number of Japanese who survived the ordeal and the

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-11 Thread the skapegoat
I did notice that a lot of the chemistry in the book was wrong. His main argument seemed to be against losing the energy in the methanol that was washed out. He does recommend not using BD with certain types of tubes, as the methanol will destroy it. I am certainly planning on washing my BD, I

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread marilyn
I googled seed savers and got 13,000 sites. This looks especially good: http://www.seedsavers.org/ Seed Savers Exchange is a nonprofit organization that saves and shares the heirloom seeds of our garden heritage, forming a living legacy that can be passed down through generations. When people

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-11 Thread Ken Provost
on 8/11/05 4:56 PM, the skapegoat at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His main argument seemed to be against losing the energy in the methanol that was washed out. The energy does you no good if your particular thermodynamic cycle can't take advantage of it. What is the cetane rating of methanol?

Re: [Biofuel] Sustainable World Coming

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Redler
"Tewolde warned against GM crops that represent a further decrease in diversity and an increase in the privatisation of nature." The thing I'm trying to wrap my mind around is the idea of nearly everything becoming someone else's intellectual property. That is to say, if a company has the "legal"

Re: [Biofuel] Sustainable World Coming

2005-08-11 Thread Ken Provost
on 8/11/05 6:01 PM, Michael Redler at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how can anyone not believe that a worldwide revolt is in the future of us or our children unless there is a spike in public education - soon? Maybe education will HELP the revolt/revolution. The more I understand what's

Re: [Biofuel] The Auto Industry's Last Hope

2005-08-11 Thread Appal Energy
be thankful, huh? Surely we're much better off now than we were five and one-half years ago, right? Todd Swearingen Keith Addison wrote: http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050811/the_auto_industrys_last_hope.php The Auto Industry's Last Hope Greg Tarpinian August 11, 2005 Greg Tarpinian

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-11 Thread Appal Energy
His main argument seemed to be against losing the energy in the methanol that was washed out Why wash it out? Why not evaporate it and recover it, even as small a value as it is, rather than flush it with the wash water? I'll leave the energy and bio-accumlation numbers to the slide rule

Re: [Biofuel] The Auto Industry's Last Hope

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Redler
Since theBush administration is proving itself to be one of the most destructive in American history, one might wonder what will happen if the citizens of this country begin to push the issue of renewable/sustainable energy through the influence of their own life choices (what they buy, what they

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel

2005-08-11 Thread Ian Theresa Sims
Hi Tom Let me see if I 've got this right. BD made with Animal fat solidifies at a higher temp than WVO? This could be handy info as a lot of the chippies here use lard.FortunatleyI think I've got onto a source of WVO. Diesel prices in NZ are now a $1 pL for your interest Ian -

[Biofuel] Re: Re: A beginners titration question

2005-08-11 Thread Doug Memering
Jan, Thanks for the help. Hello Doug. Keith has made an excellent input to you questions but I felt it necessary to add some aspects of your problem: The rule no1 when taking samples is to make sure - as possible- that the sample is representative for the batch. This sounds simple, but if

Re: [Biofuel] RE: jelly and jellybiofuel

2005-08-11 Thread Pieter Koole
Wauw !! Somebody - and not JUST somebody - on this forum writing in real Dutch. Very good Keith. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

Re: [Biofuel] Bring land back from the dead

2005-08-11 Thread Greg and April
Kim, where do I find such maps? I have tried Google, but, ended up with world maps, or nothing more than US demographic tables ( which were not very helpful ). Greg H. - Original Message - From: Garth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, July

[Biofuel] Diesel Price

2005-08-11 Thread Carot3
Dear All Is there a website that I can access that list the current price of diesel (at retail) in all the countries or most of the countries? Thanks Rgds Michael ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-11 Thread Greg and April
I wonder what leaving the extra methanol does to the low temperature flow characteristics of BioDiesel?Could this be an asset during winter? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 18:59

Re: [Biofuel] Experience with DSE/dieselsecret.com

2005-08-11 Thread Ryan Hall
Hey paul, I read the site, it almost sounds too good to be true. It also sounds as though they are selling you some common chemicals that they want to make a secret in order to ensure profitability. If it works as well as they say though, more power to them. I do not have a diesel right