I think it's time to switch to the tagging list !
The tagging scheme that seems preferred in this discussion is the following :
- simple named junctions : use junction=yes and name=*
- complex named junctions with several lanes crossing a different points :
two propositions :
Vladimir Vyskocil vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it's time to switch to the tagging list !
The tagging scheme that seems preferred in this discussion is the
following :
- simple named junctions : use junction=yes and name=*
- complex named junctions with several lanes
On 25.03.2013 22:24, Vladimir Vyskocil wrote:
And there are more than 7000 nodes with highway=traffic_signals and
name=* in Tokyo and its suburbs !
Another country, another solution for the same tagging problem.
And how is this unexpected? Without renderer support every community
will
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 02:11:28 Hans Schmidt wrote:
Am 25.03.2013 17:48, schrieb Christian Quest:
Here is a quick and dirty rendering on the junction=yes + name=* tags
that will make visible the 1800+ nodes overpass found mostly in Korea:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 01:48:31 Christian Quest wrote:
I wanted to try rendering those crossroad names so I've had a quick
look in Korea, near Seoul and found many nodes with names around
intersecting highways.
Example: http://osm.org/browse/node/414684650
What is the current tagging scheme
2013/3/26 Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com
Yup, it looks fine.
With or without a rectangle is ok.
What about traffic lights? Is it necessary to see them behind the label?
Here you can see Google doesn't hide traffic lights:
http://goo.gl/maps/BgxjN
And the rectangle makes the
That's how it is I'm afraid, and that is a good example. I'd suggest that
node needs an additional tag - junction=yes - as described in the wiki to
make it very clear. It should also be merged with the node at the
intersection of the two ways that actually form the crossroads.
But how
Am 26.03.2013 11:30, schrieb Vladimir Vyskocil:
But how to deal with complex crossroads where there's not a single point of
junction, but many (oneway or not) lanes crossing at different points ?
A relation with type=junction referencing all the crossing points and
carrying the name of the
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:30:58 Vladimir Vyskocil wrote:
That's how it is I'm afraid, and that is a good example. I'd suggest
that node needs an additional tag - junction=yes - as described in the
wiki to make it very clear. It should also be merged with the node at
the intersection of the
http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=17lat=37.40505lon=127.12573
+1 from Japan, too.
Here are some other samples. (not OSM)
http://yahoo.jp/Srff4c
http://www.mapion.co.jp/m/35.4624614580357_139.61675208953122_10/
just placed in the middle
Yes, there are such a case. (traffic signals with name,
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:23:40 Janko Mihelić wrote:
2013/3/26 Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com
Yup, it looks fine.
With or without a rectangle is ok.
What about traffic lights? Is it necessary to see them behind the label?
Here you can see Google doesn't hide traffic lights:
I would propose to draw the intersection as an area in these cases, as
the whole area, and not only the nodes of intersecting streets is named,
I guess.
regards
Peter
Am 26.03.2013 11:30, schrieb Vladimir Vyskocil:
That's how it is I'm afraid, and that is a good example. I'd suggest that
2013/3/26 Hans Schmidt z0idb...@gmx.de:
Am 26.03.2013 11:30, schrieb Vladimir Vyskocil:
But how to deal with complex crossroads where there's not a single point of
junction, but many (oneway or not) lanes crossing at different points ?
A relation with type=junction referencing all the
highway=traffic_signals + name=* are now also visible:
http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?lon=139.71686lat=35.61534zoom=18
You'll see that adding names to traffic_lights on complex crossroads
causes the same name to be rendered multiple times in some places:
highway=traffic_signals + name=* are now also visible:
Great!
traffic_lights on complex crossroads
Area or Relation
I prefer to use relation.
I'm afraid of effects to routing topology when signals or roundabouts
are written as an area.
As theory, the names of Japanese traffic signals are
About crossroad names in Japan, I contributed quite a lot in Tokyo for
remapping after odbl clean up and recently. I'm french and I'm doing armchair
mapping but I'll visit Tokyo in june and this is my motivation to fix and
upgrade what I can do from here. I've also made a iOS application using
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:45:28 Frederik Ramm wrote:
Are you in touch with mappers in Japan or Korea, and if so, what is
their opinion regarding intersection names? Are they waiting for someone
to tell them what to do, or have they invented some kind of hack to add
this (according to you) very
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:28:04 malenki wrote:
Am Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:15:19 +0100
schrieb Hans Schmidt z0idb...@gmx.de:
Am 24.03.2013 16:15, schrieb malenki:
Since you didn't go into details in you OP, where from should I know
this?
Well, I mentioned it some weeks before. I didn’t want
Andrew Errington wrote:
That's exactly what he did. So what else is he supposed to do? Perhaps
the wiki should be edited to state don't bother making graphical
suggestions because the system is too unwieldy now and we dare not
change it.
No-one has said that. There is an active effort to
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:29:47 Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Andrew Errington wrote:
That's exactly what he did. So what else is he supposed to do? Perhaps
the wiki should be edited to state don't bother making graphical
suggestions because the system is too unwieldy now and we dare not
change
Am 24.03.2013 18:38, schrieb Hans Schmidt:
Am 24.03.2013 17:59, schrieb Kevin Peat:
On 24 March 2013 16:38, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
What makes you think money is the problem?
Money could help to speed up the process by buying time which people
may not be able to give as a
I wanted to try rendering those crossroad names so I've had a quick
look in Korea, near Seoul and found many nodes with names around
intersecting highways.
Example: http://osm.org/browse/node/414684650
What is the current tagging scheme for crossroad names ? junction=yes ?
Is it used in
Am 25.03.2013 16:45, schrieb Peter Wendorff:
If you want to have feature X done and you're not able to do it
yourself, but you want to pay for it, go for it: find a coder, pay him
and provide patches that are easy to maintain or where the current
maintainers believe you or your coder maintain
Am 25.03.2013 17:48, schrieb Christian Quest:
Here is a quick and dirty rendering on the junction=yes + name=* tags
that will make visible the 1800+ nodes overpass found mostly in Korea:
http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=17lat=37.40505lon=127.12573
This is exactly what I was asking for.
On 25 mars 2013, at 17:48, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr wrote:
Here is a quick and dirty rendering on the junction=yes + name=* tags
that will make visible the 1800+ nodes overpass found mostly in Korea:
http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=17lat=37.40505lon=127.12573
And there
Hello,
some weeks/months ago I started a discussion here that OSM needs to show
crossroad names. I then opened a bug report on the bug tracker, but
there was absolutely no reaction there – not even a comment that it is
not needed (as it is at least usually done on OSS projects).
As I announced,
Am Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:48:21 +0100
schrieb Hans Schmidt z0idb...@gmx.de:
some weeks/months ago I started a discussion here that OSM needs to
show crossroad names. I then opened a bug report on the bug tracker,
but there was absolutely no reaction there – not even a comment that
it is not
On 24/03/13 11:48, Hans Schmidt wrote:
some weeks/months ago I started a discussion here that OSM needs to show
crossroad names. I then opened a bug report on the bug tracker, but
there was absolutely no reaction there – not even a comment that it is
not needed (as it is at least usually done
Am 24.03.2013 13:07, schrieb malenki:
It seems there are not a lot of people in need of this feature.
About 160 mio people is not a lot of people?
Render a map supporting name= on crossroads. Or make an overlay using
Overpass API.
You miss my point: This is an essential map feature. And why
Hans,
OSM is a help yourself project. Street names are important in
Europe, that's why Europeans helped themselves by making a database that
records, and a map that shows, street names. People in countries where
crossroads names are very important are invited to help themselves and
2013/3/24 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
OSM is a help yourself project. Street names are important in Europe,
that's why Europeans helped themselves by making a database that records,
and a map that shows, street names. People in countries where crossroads
names are very important are
Am 24.03.2013 14:45, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
The way things like this often happen is that someone invents some
kind of hack to achieve what they want - for example, it would be
slightly incorrect but possible to place a node at a named
intersection and tag it place=locality, name=blah blah.
2013/3/24 Hans Schmidt z0idb...@gmx.de:
And as Martin said: If a project has gained a certain size, it is harder
to get suggestions implemented.
While I'd agree with this, it is not what I wrote. I said: it seems
that mapnik style development has stuck in the recent past (1-2
years), while
Have you started working on a patch for the stylesheet yet?
Until you do please stop spamming.
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Am 24.03.2013 15:10, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
But there were times when it was easier for the Europeans to help
themselves, i.e propose a patch for one of the 2 main open map styles
(osmarender and mapnik) and have hope that it would be integrated
(actually in Osmarender you could simply
Am Sun, 24 Mar 2013 14:12:47 +0100
schrieb Hans Schmidt z0idb...@gmx.de:
Am 24.03.2013 13:07, schrieb malenki:
It seems there are not a lot of people in need of this feature.
About 160 mio people is not a lot of people?
Since you didn't go into details in you OP, where from should I know
Am Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:35:06 +0100
schrieb Hans Schmidt z0idb...@gmx.de:
Still, there is one problem though: I rather get the feeling that if
this is not supported on the main map, there will be some forks, where
the country specific issues are resolved on a separate page. And I
think this is
On 24 March 2013 15:00, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Currently ist's really hard for anyone (not just Europeans) to do any change
to the mapnik style due tu its complexity. That's why nobody really works on
it; not because they don't care but because its freaking hard to get the
On 24/03/13 16:32, Kevin Peat wrote:
On 24 March 2013 15:00, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Currently ist's really hard for anyone (not just Europeans) to do any change
to the mapnik style due tu its complexity. That's why nobody really works on
it; not because they don't care but
On 24 March 2013 16:38, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
What makes you think money is the problem?
Money could help to speed up the process by buying time which people
may not be able to give as a volunteer. Crowd sourcing map data works
great because it is fun (for OSMers at least!) but
Am 24.03.2013 16:15, schrieb malenki:
Since you didn't go into details in you OP, where from should I know
this?
Well, I mentioned it some weeks before. I didn’t want to write anything
again, because this should have been just a running-up thread for the
bug tracker.
Why not? E.g.
Am 24.03.2013 17:59, schrieb Kevin Peat:
On 24 March 2013 16:38, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
What makes you think money is the problem?
Money could help to speed up the process by buying time which people
may not be able to give as a volunteer. Crowd sourcing map data works
great
2013/3/24 Hans Schmidt z0idb...@gmx.de:
About this: Is is not possible to make some styles specific to one
region, so that it would not wreak havoc in another? For example, if we
have crossroad names only in Japan and Korea, would it not be possible
to limit these changes only to these
Am Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:15:19 +0100
schrieb Hans Schmidt z0idb...@gmx.de:
Am 24.03.2013 16:15, schrieb malenki:
Since you didn't go into details in you OP, where from should I know
this?
Well, I mentioned it some weeks before. I didn’t want to write
anything again, because this should
Am 24.03.2013 19:28, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
this is a case where you would need the feature (e.g. also for custom
subway signs, road colors, highway shields etc. by
country/city/region/etc.)
Actually if I think about it, the feature is rather a must-have in some
future version:
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