Re: [Talk-GB] Closed Footpaths

2018-08-01 Thread David Woolley
On 31/07/18 16:22, Ian Caldwell wrote: Some footpaths, some of which are rights of way, have been closed as part of building a new residential estate How should this be tagged or should I just delete them? I do not think they exist on the ground anymore. Do not delete! My personal

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed Footpaths

2018-08-01 Thread Adam Snape
Yep, I should have said add access=no and remove any conflicting access tags. The foot=designated access tag could be added back in once pedestrian access was once again allowed. Kind regards, Adam On Tue, 31 Jul 2018, 16:58 Adam Snape, wrote: > My personal convention for temporary closures

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed Footpaths

2018-07-31 Thread Dave F
On 31/07/2018 16:58, Adam Snape wrote: My personal convention for temporary closures is to add access=no. This is what I've done in the past, although some users feel access=* isn't the top level in the hierarchy of restrictions, & is usurped by foot=designated. DaveF.

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed Footpaths

2018-07-31 Thread Adam Snape
My personal convention for temporary closures is to add access=no. Using access tags for these temporary orders is consistent with how we map permanent tros. If the line is altered upon reopening or the path is formally extinguished then the appropriate changes can be made as and when they occur

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed Footpaths

2018-07-31 Thread Dan S
In the past I've simply modified the ways concerned by changing highway=footway to higway=construction & construction=footway, leaving all the other info intact As mentioned in the preamble here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:construction Cheers Dan 2018-07-31 16:22 GMT+01:00 Ian

Re: [Talk-GB] Warwickshire footpaths - prow ref

2018-07-07 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 7 July 2018 at 13:17, Rob Nickerson wrote: > I'm not sure if I will add the prow_ref as I'm not so sure it has much value > given that they are not signed on the ground. I also don't know what code to > add. Nick has it showing the Parish name/code, then a space, then the ref. I > think this

Re: [Talk-GB] Imaginery footpaths added by user Gavaasuren

2014-08-18 Thread Chris Hill
I have already notified tye data working group. The user was contacted, his imaginary work was not reverted and he was not blocked, he continues to add complete junk from his armchair. He needs to be stopped. On 18 August 2014 10:59:22 GMT+01:00, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Imaginery footpaths added by user Gavaasuren

2014-08-18 Thread David Woolley
On 18/08/14 10:59, SomeoneElse wrote: Whilst the existance of a highway=pedestrian area that isn't connected is an indication of something, it's usually just an indication of that mapping in a particular area is not complete. Considering the longer term problems: 1) There needs to be better

Re: [Talk-GB] Imaginery footpaths added by user Gavaasuren

2014-08-18 Thread Stuart Reynolds
On 18/08/14 11:41, David Woolley wrote: Considering the longer term problems: 1) There needs to be better guidance to routing software developers on how to route when there are parallel features accessible on foot; Agreed. The things that give our routing engine problems are: - dual

Re: [Talk-GB] Imaginery footpaths added by user Gavaasuren

2014-08-18 Thread SK53
Hi David, Most of these problems are issues for a router for interpreting OSM data, rather than specific problems for the data. There are plenty of examples of people building routers for people with restricted mobility using OSM data (for instance wheelchair users, blind people etc). Most of us

Re: [Talk-GB] Imaginery footpaths added by user Gavaasuren

2014-08-18 Thread David Woolley
On 18/08/14 12:15, SK53 wrote: There are plenty of examples of people building routers for people with restricted mobility using OSM data (for instance wheelchair users, blind people etc). Most of us will map steps on footways simply because even one step acts as a barrier to wheelchair users or

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-10 Thread Peter Miller
On 7 May 2011 18:45, Robert Whittaker (OSM) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.comwrote: On 5 May 2011 18:01, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Should we add something about permissive and private paths to this view? If we had that then the job to do locally would be to convert all the

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-07 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
On 5 May 2011 18:01, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Should we add something about permissive and private paths to this view? If we had that then the job to do locally would be to convert all the grey paths and turn them into one of the colours. Currently anything that is

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
On 06/05/2011 08:13, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Am I right that you can embed P2 into other websites and connect it to the live API? Yep. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch_2/Deploying_Potlatch_2 . cheers Richard ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread monxton
On 04/05/2011 15:57, Peter Miller wrote: Here is a global map view showing highway=footway in blue and highway=path in brown. http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=97 There is indeed something like an 80/20 split in the UK with noticeable enthusiasm for 'path' in some parts of

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Nick Whitelegg
To me, the most significant thing about that map is that it demonstrates how vast swathes of the UK have almost no footpath data at all. True, it shows how the paths are nicely concentrated in the south-east, the Manchester area, and the National Parks. Time for some footpath parties, or

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 5 May 2011 11:20:45 +0100 Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Hello Nick, area, and the National Parks. Time for some footpath parties, or getting people interested in (say) the southwest? There's me, living just off Exmoor. Time limited, but I do what I can. --

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Kevin Peat
On 5 May 2011 11:41, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: getting people interested in (say) the southwest? area, and the National Parks. Time for some footpath parties, or There's me, living just off Exmoor. Time limited, but I do what I can. Ditto myself, around Torbay and on Dartmoor.

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Peter Miller
On 5 May 2011 10:45, monxton gm...@jordan-maynard.org wrote: On 04/05/2011 15:57, Peter Miller wrote: Here is a global map view showing highway=footway in blue and highway=path in brown. http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=97 There is indeed something like an 80/20

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: You may wish find the 'surfaces' view more useful for getting a general insight into path density around the UK and elsewhere. This view does in fact mirror the patchy nature of path data in the UK.

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Peter Miller
On 5 May 2011 15:49, Robert Whittaker (OSM) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.comwrote: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: You may wish find the 'surfaces' view more useful for getting a general insight into path density around the UK and elsewhere. This view does in fact mirror the

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Thanks for the suggestion. Take a look at this one which I hope does roughly what you have asked for with the exception that I have coloured 'other designations' with a off-yellow (as used for unrecognised values in other map views) and I have added grey for paths with no designation. Grey

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Peter Miller
On 5 May 2011 17:03, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. Take a look at this one which I hope does roughly what you have asked for with the exception that I have coloured 'other designations' with a off-yellow (as used for unrecognised values in other

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread SomeoneElse
On 05/05/2011 16:40, Peter Miller wrote: http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=87 First reaction - thank you - that will be _extremely_ useful. Second reaction - have I really forgotton to add footpath and bridleway designations from quite so many footpaths locally? Oh dear

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Peter Miller
On 5 May 2011 17:28, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 05/05/2011 16:40, Peter Miller wrote: http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=87 First reaction - thank you - that will be _extremely_ useful. Second reaction - have I really forgotton to add footpath

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
On 5 May 2011 17:03, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Not sure how widespread this is but I tag byways as designation=public_byway. Might be good to show these too. Quite widespread, judging by taginfo [1]. For the byway-related designation=* values, we have: 645

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Can do. Is this a separate value/colour or is it an alias for another value? If it is a separate colour then what colour would you suggest? I use it for full byways (rather than restricted) but others might use it for other things. Maybe in view of what Robert said it's best they're re-tagged

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Adam Hoyle
On 4 May 2011, at 15:57, Peter Miller wrote: Here is a global map view showing highway=footway in blue and highway=path in brown. http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=97 wow, that is awesome! I am a little confused (I get like that). The rather amazingly wonderful

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Adam Hoyle
On 5 May 2011, at 23:07, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Adam Hoyle wrote: I am a little confused (I get like that). The rather amazingly wonderful potlatch 2 doesn't appear to put the designation stuff in when one tags a footpath or track etc. I will still go through and fix the paths I've

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Mann
The renderers don't entirely agree with the new tagging, and probably won't any time soon. Basically there's agreement that highway=path can be used for scruffy paths in the countryside, though some prefer to use highway=footway, especially if it's an official Public Footpath. There's a diversity

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Peter, I would say the most important thing with official rights of way is to tag them with designation=public_footpath, public_bridleway, public_byway or restricted_byway (as appropriate). The designation tag is AFAIK generally regarded these days as the most definitive indication of

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Ed Avis
Peter Oliver p.d.oliver@... writes: • Tagging a way highway=footway is equivalent to tagging it highway=path; foot=... (plus, in either case, additional tags to indicate the legal status of the route). However, both Mapnik and Osmarender display these two supposedly equivalent forms of footpath

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Tom Chance
On 4 May 2011 13:57, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com wrote: The renderers don't entirely agree with the new tagging, and probably won't any time soon. Indeed, because there is no agreement that the new tagging should replace, or should be preferred to, the old tagging. Data

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ed Avis wrote: The general practice in this country is to use footway for paved paths in cities and path for muddier countryside ones (or, perhaps, through city parks). Um, no it isn't. There is absolutely no consensus for using =path in the countryside rather than =footway. I strongly

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/05/2011 13:22, Peter Oliver wrote: • There's an old method of tagging ways suitable for pedestrians, and a new method. I'd ignore the new method as documented there. It was added by a wikifiddler a couple of months ago and bears no resemblance to common usage in the UK. The huge

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Mann
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Ed Avis wrote: The general practice in this country is to use footway for paved paths in cities and path for muddier countryside ones (or, perhaps, through city parks). Um, no it isn't. There is absolutely no

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Ed Avis
Richard Fairhurst richard@... writes: The general practice in this country is to use footway for paved paths in cities and path for muddier countryside ones (or, perhaps, through city parks). Um, no it isn't. There is absolutely no consensus for using =path in the countryside rather than

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Peter Miller
On 4 May 2011 15:39, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Richard Fairhurst richard@... writes: The general practice in this country is to use footway for paved paths in cities and path for muddier countryside ones (or, perhaps, through city parks). Um, no it isn't. There is absolutely no

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Peter Oliver p.d.oli...@mavit.org.uk wrote: It seems like I'm now armed with enough knowledge to get stuck in and start mapping some footpaths, using whichever tagging method I happen to prefer.  However, both Mapnik and Osmarender display these two supposedly

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Adam Hoyle
This is a very interesting discussion. I've been walking and then adding footpaths north of High Wycombe / south of Wendover and surrounding areas for a couple of years, but for various felt-too-much-like-work reasons I've only just joined this mailing list in the last few weeks. Fwiw I had

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread MarkS
On 04/05/2011 14:13, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello Peter, I would say the most important thing with official rights of way is to tag them with designation=public_footpath, public_bridleway, public_byway or restricted_byway (as appropriate). The designation tag is AFAIK generally regarded these

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
it at the time. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Peter Miller [mailto:peter.mil...@itoworld.com] Sent: 04 May 2011 3:57 PM To: Ed Avis Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths On 4 May 2011 15:39, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Richard Fairhurst

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Adam Hoyle [mailto:adam.li...@dotankstudios.com] wrote: Sent: 04 May 2011 6:07 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths This is a very interesting discussion. I've been walking and then adding footpaths north of High Wycombe / south of Wendover and surrounding areas

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Nick Whitelegg
-Adam Hoyle adam.li...@dotankstudios.com wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Adam Hoyle adam.li...@dotankstudios.com Date: 04/05/2011 06:07PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths This is a very interesting discussion. I've been walking and then adding footpaths north of High

Re: [Talk-GB] Provisional footpaths mapping party - Midhurst area, West Sussex - UPDATE

2010-09-26 Thread Andy Street
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 13:04 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: (Andy - are you interested in this BTW?) Sorry Nick, I must have missed your original email. Yes, I can make the 16th if there is enough interest to make it feasible. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB