Re: [OSM-talk] Zonal restrictions.

2009-05-14 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 13 May 2009 15:54:36 +0100, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote: The first thing I thought of when reading this is, to use a relation. 'Relations are not categories' applies to people making relations out of all hotels or All hotels in London, doesn't really apply here.

Re: [OSM-talk] Zonal restrictions.

2009-05-14 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:08:51 +0200, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: I really wouldn't recommend relations for specifying what things are inside an area. It's a waste of two entire dimensions our dataset happens to have. So while it may work for many zonal restrictions to use an area

Re: [OSM-talk] Data Import Support Working Group

2009-05-14 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 14 May 2009 15:26:37 +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:26 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: The foundation today discussed the perceived need for a working group to help people import data. We know there are highly talented individuals

Re: [OSM-talk] TMC location codes

2009-05-18 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 15 May 2009 15:11:31 -0700, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: (When germany is done there are a dozen other countries with TMC location-codes that have published them openly or may be willing to do so.) I wonder how to reverse engineer

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town? - b orders are different

2009-05-20 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 20 May 2009 12:00:31 +0200, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote: a) motorway: that's very clear, therea are no or very high limits. b) city areas with limited speed and some restrictions c) everything else, mostly out of town. In Czech republic there are different rules for motorways

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-20 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 20 May 2009 14:16:05 +0200, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder, can we have at some place (wiki?) some definition file that will specify these per-country default limits in some machine-readable way? I already empoly such a schema in Traveling Salesman:

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: zones for motorway/in town/ outof town?]

2009-05-20 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 20 May 2009 14:04:36 +0100, Radomir Cernoch radomir.cern...@gmail.com wrote: MP píše v St 20. 05. 2009 v 14:16 +0200: I wonder, can we have at some place (wiki?) some definition file that will specify these per-country default limits in some machine-readable way? Yes, surely! My

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap software for vehicles fleet management system

2009-05-25 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:57:36 +0200, Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, does anybody knows of any open source software or web application that is useful to be used for a vehicles fleet management system ? (all vehicles carry a GPS unit) and the maps should be based on OpenStreetMap.

[OSM-talk] Hacking At Random 2009 (August 13-16)

2009-06-08 Thread marcus.wolschon
Anyone comming to HAR2009 (August 13-16, 2009 hacker-camping in the netherlands) and looking for a village to camp in? Feel free to enter yourself! Or anyone with a pavilion, foldable table, fridge, cool lamps,... along the way (e.g. all of western Germany) or near the camp-area that we could

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:53:27 +0200 (CEST), Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: A reason to do better categorizations would be to ease conversion to mobile (or online) routeplanners, which already have some sort of categorization in amenities. Please give examples here. Are you sure there is

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-03 Thread marcus.wolschon
On 3 Jul 2009 08:47:04 -0400, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On Jul 3, 2009, at 8:15 AM, John Smith wrote: I'm still scratching my head as to why this isn't possible to be honest. It's possible, but it's pointless. First, there is no IPv4 to IPv6 transition plan. The two

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OpenAerialMap service dead?

2009-07-07 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:33:05 +0200 (CEST), Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: n others who wish to join start contributing aerial photos? I think the best would be to submit rectified photo's with a World file; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_file So, how do you rectify your photos?

Re: [OSM-talk] Undo request button for changesets

2009-07-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:49:11 +0100, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Anyway, to draw on Frederik's workshop at SOTM the actual revert is in many ways the easy part - the hard thing is establishing the authority to do the revert. In other words the question of who gets to decide that an

Re: [OSM-talk] maxheight/height

2009-07-27 Thread marcus.wolschon
I am tagging both as maxheight. It is a restriction that you are not capable or allowed to pass a given node or a given way in any direction with a vehicle of greater height. That is also how I am evaluating maxheight and maxwidth in Traveling Salesman. Marcus On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:31:49

Re: [OSM-talk] maxheight/height

2009-07-28 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:22:54 +0200, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) skipp...@gimnechiske.org wrote: I do not agree that they bouth should be treated as maxheight=* If my car with load that is 3m high, and maxheight=3m, but physical clearance is much higher,than you would pass at the speed limit, but

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] maxheight/height

2009-07-28 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:11:21 +1000, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:47 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Mon, 27/7/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I think the bridge should be tagged. There was an overwhelming response on the

Re: [OSM-talk] maxheight/height

2009-07-28 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:27:52 +0200, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) skipp...@gimnechiske.org wrote: I am not using maxheight in any of the metrics that involve a travel-time to optimize for so it has no effect on the route other then allowing or disallowing that path at all. Thus at least for me

Re: [OSM-talk] Best-practice-idea traffic_sign

2009-07-30 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:07:08 +0200, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: 2. It says that the main use is for city_limit. Again, why not. But the other examples are very questionable : traffic_sign=maxspeed:30 or traffic_sign=DE:239 break some practices we had until now like key=value and not

Re: [OSM-talk] Best-practice-idea traffic_sign

2009-07-30 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:08:28 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I know about others: maxspeedtype=ITA:city for example, or maxspeed=DE:walk I don't understand why key:country=value is different to key=country:value but I would like to learn about it. In that one

Re: [OSM-talk] maxspeed tagging Was: Best-practice-idea t raffic_sign

2009-07-30 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:41:07 +0200, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Florian Lohoff wrote: Not only in a corner. In Germany the A3, going down the Elzer Berg (near Limburg an der Lahn in the eastward direction) has a speedlimit of 40 km/h on the right lane and 100 km/h (or 120? haven't

Re: [OSM-talk] Crazy routing in OpenRouteService

2009-08-10 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:56:29 +1000, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Steve Hill wrote: Moving the destination slightly closer to another road causes sanity to be resumed. I misread sanity as salinity and wondered which ocean he was visiting next Interesting metric. Routing

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing over barrier nodes

2009-09-11 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:51:17 +0200, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/10 lulu-...@gmx.de: Currently the problem with routing is, that routing applications can not check for millions of nodes, but only for thousands of ways without performace problems. That results in the

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-09-30 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:51:35 +1000, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: On 28/09/2009, at 2:22 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: 25A-25C should work with addr:interpolation=alphabetic . However not all software that supports interpolation at all, supports this interpolation-mode yet. 25-25A

Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing Question

2009-11-13 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:29:14 -0500, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: It's a fairly well established convention that in OSM it's the houses/plots, not the road centrelines, that are addressed. But that doesn't always

Re: [OSM-talk] NearMap and OpenAerialMap

2009-11-19 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:19:57 +1000, morb@beagle.com.au wrote: Just a quick thought I just realised that NearMap is doing most of the job of the OpenAerialMap concept. I wonder if there is some scope to combine the efforts? http://www.nearmap.com/community/contribute.aspx Contrary to

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-25 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:11:29 +0100, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason's diary entry last week (http://j.mp/8ESP8o) stired my interest. Using a few examples, he showed how mapping everything as an area - or as a volume - makes ultimate sense. Should we go for

Re: [OSM-talk] cloudmade maps copyright terms and conditions

2009-12-01 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:58:35 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: fine, but to me it seems it doesn't care for the viral aspects of our current license, that is: every derived work (derived from our data) must have the same license: cc-by-sa 2.0 A website is no derived work

Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors

2009-02-05 Thread marcus.wolschon
Hello, what about packaging everything one needs to set up a read-only api-server that applies the minutely diffs and re-importes the planet lets say once a month? Many do not need data that is accurate up to an hour but as there are no other servers they have to query the main-api-server

Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors

2009-02-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
Soyour point being? Are you giving Pro, Contra, an offer to help or a helpful suggestion? Marcus On 6 Feb 2009 09:35:21 +0100, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: This is the Wikipedia model. If you're not logged-in and you're not editing, you NEVER touch the main server. You're

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] donating read-only api-mirrors

2009-02-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:16:28 +0100, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Florian Lohoff wrote: API 0.7 should contain a referral as LDAP does - So a client could connect to a cluster of read-only copies and once you write to it you get a referral to the master database. Synchronization is

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] donating read-only api-mirrors

2009-02-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:31:10 +0100, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:16:28 +0100, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Florian Lohoff wrote: API 0.7 should contain a referral as LDAP does - So a client could connect to

Re: [OSM-talk] donating read-only api-mirrors

2009-02-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:23:22 +0100, Jonas Krückel (John07) o...@jonas-krueckel.de wrote: Am 06.02.2009 um 08:28 schrieb marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com: Hello, what about packaging everything one needs to set up a read-only api-server that applies the minutely diffs and re-importes the

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] donating read-only api-mirrors

2009-02-06 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:25:45 +0100, Mathieu Arnold m...@mat.cc wrote: +--On 6 février 2009 11:12:29 +0100 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: | Mathieu Arnold wrote: | +--On 6 février 2009 10:23:22 +0100 Jonas Krückel (John07) | o...@jonas-krueckel.de wrote: | | I think you know about

Re: [OSM-talk] Long Ways and API 0.6 - multirelations

2009-02-08 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:24:47 +, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote: Umm.. yes. You've managed to get the complete wrong end of the stick :-) I was saying that's what relations are there for. You need the route relation so you can represent easily both a local and international

Re: [OSM-talk] Long Ways and API 0.6 - multirelations

2009-02-09 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:54:52 +0100, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I don't think Dave was thinking of anything more than two different relations (partly) using the same ways. That would not warrant any special kind of relation. For situations in which you want relations contained

Re: [OSM-talk] josm plugin request: addressing with Karlsruhe Schema

2009-02-12 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:29:04 +0800, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Maybe a plugin that can: when I select a node/building and a street, it fills the name for addr:street from selected street. And the assoviatedStreet -relation. ;) If the first is done, then doing the

Re: [OSM-talk] Beta testers required for new Windows Mobile OSM Client

2009-02-12 Thread marcus.wolschon
Hello George, sounds very nice. I just downloaded it and will give it a try this weekend (I'm currently roaming, so no network on the Touch Pro.) Marcus On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:51:47 -0500, George Styles geo...@ripnet.co.uk wrote: Hi, Ive written some software for Windows Mobile to make

Re: [OSM-talk] Splitting Long Ways/Polygons

2009-02-17 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:50:07 +0100, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: For long waterways, it is absoutely usual to split them into a number of ways of manageable size (think not only of the API limit but of someone downloading an area touched by the river in JOSM!). Optionally, use

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap on HAR2009

2009-02-22 Thread marcus.wolschon
Hello, whoever plans to be at the Hacking At Random 2009 (large hacker-camping in the netherlands this summer)... I created a project-page for OpenStreetMap in their wiki. If anyone knows that he/she will come and can answer questions, present something of his/her own or plains looks for a

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway yes or true

2009-02-27 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:36:18 +0100 (CET), Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Whatever it is going to be: it would be nice if the validator plugin in JOSM will accept this. Currently it's programmed to accept yes/no as a proper tag and true/false is flagged as incorrect. That's why I change

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway yes or true

2009-02-27 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:55:26 +0100, sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org wrote: no false 0 -1 all other values are ignored and treated as yes (why else would you have a oneway-tag). Ouch ! While using your software, I'll be extreamly carefull on the road ;-) Don't want to be

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway yes or true

2009-02-27 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:15:11 +0100, sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org wrote: On Friday 27 February 2009 12:06, you wrote: A good way would obviously be to change the map features and then the mapnik and osmarender stylesheets. As much as we like it or not, the rendered map is a big

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway yes or true

2009-02-27 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:32:38 +0100, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com schrieb: Just a note: As a developer I am accepting the following values in the Traveling Salesman navigation system (case ignored): no false 0 -1 all other values are ignored and treated as

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway yes or true - reversible lanes

2009-02-27 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:36:23 +0100, Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es wrote: El Viernes, 27 de Febrero de 2009, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com escribió: all other values are ignored and treated as yes (why else would you have a oneway-tag). Reversible lanes on a separated

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway yes or true

2009-02-27 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:40:44 -0800 (PST), Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: If we produce a wonderful world map but developers have to jump through a few hoops to use it, a) we have a wonderful world map, therefore b) people will - and are doing - produce the tools that jump through

[OSM-talk] Tags for signposting

2009-03-02 Thread marcus.wolschon
Hello everyone, does anyone know if we already have some tags for signposting? (tagging what city-names are printed on direction-signs at intersections) I would like implement driving instructions like In 800m exit the motorway, then stay left towards 'city1,city2,city3'. for Traveling

Re: [OSM-talk] Tags for signposting

2009-03-02 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:43:35 +0100, Yann Coupin y...@coupin.net wrote: While I was discussing my proposal for route_instructions, someone pointed me to existing proposal that covered part of what I was proposing. Signposts were part of that list...

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=secondary_link

2009-03-02 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:09:16 +, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Andrew Chadwick (email lists) wrote: Grant Slater wrote: Annoying... Stop stripping highway = xxx_link The examples you gave were all of the completely undocumented highway=secondary_link. It would be incorrect to say

[OSM-talk] Traveling Salesman - version 0.9.5 released

2009-03-04 Thread marcus.wolschon
Version 0.9.5 of the Traveling Salesman navigation-system for OpenStreetMap has just been released. * With an improved plugin-system we now have an optional speechPack to add voice-output. (Note that higher quality voices and phonems for other languages can be installed later.) * Thanks to

Re: [OSM-talk] What if ODBl 1.0 is superseeded by ODBl 2.0

2009-03-05 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 03:33:45 -0800 (PST), Donald Allwright donald_allwri...@yahoo.com wrote: I would be very keen to take a leaf out of the GPL world here, and license the data under ODBL 1.0 or later. That means if and when 2.0 comes out (which it surely will) the data are automatically

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-newbies] avoid repeating the name tag twice

2009-03-09 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:51:28 +0100, Pierre-André Jacquod pjacq...@alumni.ethz.ch wrote: A possibility would be to never use name=, but only name:XX= and have a tag name:local=XX in order to indicate which is the local one. For rendering, a default rule could be that if there is only one

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] 0.6 move and downtime (re-scheduled) - TS 1.0 also postponed

2009-03-13 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:00:19 +, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Dear all The API downtime scheduled for the 0.6 API transition has been postponed due to delays acquiring the new database server. The re-scheduled API downtime for the 0.6 API upgrade is now the weekend

Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mappingtools

2009-03-13 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:28:40 +0100, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: That's ridiculous. The solution is obvious: if a way or point is tagged as amenity=school, etc, then the database will automatically add noise to the coordinates: lat = lat + 0.001 * random(1000)

Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools

2009-03-13 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:35:30 +0100, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Pieren Pieren wrote: May I suggest a new tag: landuse=blur Superb. I've been wanting a tag like that for a while. I have now used it for the

[OSM-talk] Traveling Salesman is looking for a logo/icon

2009-03-16 Thread marcus.wolschon
Hello everyone, with API 0.6 also Version 1.0 of Traveling Salesman is comming up. (http://travelingsales.sourceforge.net) It is a navigation-program for OpenStreetMap started in 2007 that is especially modular and well documented to apeal to developers wanting to experiment with advanced

Re: [OSM-talk] Traveling Salesman is looking for a logo/icon

2009-03-17 Thread marcus.wolschon
The current logo-proposals for Traveling Salesman at http://apps.sourceforge.net/phpbb/travelingsales/viewtopic.php?f=7t=37 make use of a part of the OSM-logo. Who can be asked for a definite answer about if we as a Navigator for OSM-maps can do so (copyright any stuff). Marcus On Mon, 16

Re: [OSM-talk] Reverse look-up gazetteer

2009-03-19 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:01:12 +0100, paul youlten p...@yellowikis.org wrote: Does anyone know if there is there a web service that lets me take the latitude and longitude of a node and establish which country, state/county/province, city and Zip/post code the node is in? Not yet. Considering

Re: [OSM-talk] Reverse look-up gazetteer

2009-03-19 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:09:21 +0100, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/19 paul youlten p...@yellowikis.org: Does anyone know if there is there a web service that lets me take the latitude and longitude of a node and establish which country, state/county/province, city and

Re: [OSM-talk] Reverse look-up gazetteer

2009-03-19 Thread marcus.wolschon
This will fail if: * there are more then 1 place-nodes in the bounding box Why not automatically choose the closest place. Possible. What you get is the dreaded street near city. You don't get a defined getCityForStreet(street) that is guaranteed to return a correct result if it returns a

Re: [OSM-talk] Reverse look-up gazetteer

2009-03-19 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:38:58 +, Someoneelse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: Lets face it. Everyone else manages this (tomtom, google, garmin, ) I'm not sure that everyone else does make too good a job of it. Google has quite a few village

[OSM-talk] Category:TagsSupportedBy

2009-03-30 Thread marcus.wolschon
I added a category Category:TagsSupportedBy and tagged some pages with it as a test. How usefully do you find this? Should we do something like this? By design such a list can never be complete but combined with tagwatch it could be a good way to consolidate the list of tags some more and

Re: [OSM-talk] Category:TagsSupportedBy

2009-03-30 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:03:14 +0200, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: I added a category Category:TagsSupportedBy and tagged some pages with it as a test. I'm not sure why you called the category TagsSupportedBy when you want to apply it to keys

Re: [OSM-talk] Category:TagsSupportedBy

2009-03-31 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:34:36 +0200, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: A relation isn't just a set of tags. It requires certain members and roles (which aren't tags). Thus, a relation isn't, as the category name would suggest, a tag supported by X (it's a relation supported by X),

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging best practices

2009-03-31 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:53:12 -0400, PAA poule...@gmail.com wrote: What is the preferred way to design tags: First scenario * One key, multiple values * Multiple keys, single values Using the proposed shop=pet as an example: * grooming=yes: The shop offers pet grooming services *

Re: [OSM-talk] Category:TagsSupportedBy

2009-03-31 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:45:12 +0200, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: Something like Babel (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Babel) templates would probably be easy, but I've got no idea what the performance effects of something like that

Re: [OSM-talk] turn restriction relations: via

2009-03-31 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:55:54 -0400, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: As you can see there is a roundabout, but there is also a dual carriageway through the middle with the flow controlled by traffic lights. If you are in the lanes which go through as the dual carriageway you can't turn

Re: [OSM-talk] Addr:streetnumber:first;last:left;right

2009-04-07 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:54:39 +0200, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: now I'm sure that at some point a lot of people will want to use OSM on the Garmins (very few people do now) and the converter will have to translate the Karlsruhe scheme back into the Garmin/canvec/geobase scheme.

Re: [OSM-talk] Addr:streetnumber:first;last:left;right

2009-04-07 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:11:24 +0200, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Sound cool! One suggestion: As this is automated anyway, try to add hints about what street the houses belong to. easy to implement version:  Simply add a tag add:street=nam to the interpolation-ways slightly

Re: [OSM-talk] Addr:streetnumber:first;last:left;right

2009-04-07 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:56:59 -0400 (EDT), Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.ca wrote: On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Sam Vekemans wrote: addr:alternatenumber house number If a object has two numbers. Better use addr:housenumber=first;second *** So the line can show a long stretch from second

Re: [OSM-talk] Addr:streetnumber:first;last:left;right

2009-04-07 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:12:07 +0200, Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:44:37PM +0200, andrzej zaborowski wrote: We add a addr:interpolation on each side of the way with an arbitrary offset and with some simple heuristics to make it look correct (although obviously

Re: [OSM-talk] Addr:streetnumber:first;last:left;right

2009-04-08 Thread marcus.wolschon
On 7 Apr 2009 21:08:48 -0400, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On Apr 7, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:28:16AM -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: Thus, for many roads near me,

[OSM-talk] Traveling Salesman - v1.0.0-RC1

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
Traveling Salesman - v1.0.0-RC1 == Traveling Salesman is a navigation application for use on nettops and laptops for the OpenStreetMap. It's focus is on clean, well documented code and modularity via plugins. Download it:

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Speed in traffic jams/slow traffic

2009-04-17 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:32:03 +0200, Yann Coupin y...@coupin.net wrote: Le 17 avr. 09 à 12:07, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com a écrit : What maxspeed could I assume during a traffic-jam of a given length or during reported slow moving traffic? Does anyone

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Speed in traffic jams/slow traffic

2009-04-17 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:02:17 +0200, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-gis-osm-t...@silbe.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:43:46PM +0200, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: I don't like to simply assume 0km/h = infinite delay for a traffic jam and like 3 km/h for slow moving traffic. How about

Re: [OSM-talk] We're back - forum login

2009-04-21 Thread marcus.wolschon
Login in the forum still seems to be broken. Getting 400 Bad Request on login. Marcus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-24 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:01:20 +0100, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: What is your problem with having way sections between each intersection instead of one long way? I don't have a problem with splitting ways, as that is what I've always done to add the relevant tags to the relevant

Re: [OSM-talk] planet? geofabrik download...

2009-04-27 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:15:21 +0200, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: hi, just wanted to use a planet slice from geofabrik and noticed that in bremen.osm.bz2 at least 4 referenced nodes are missing: node 31088130 not found node 257415561 not found node 285091039 not found node 303607968 not

Re: [OSM-talk] planet? geofabrik download...

2009-04-27 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:01:34 +0200, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: it seems the geofabrik job today got stuck. still some countries missing, german bundesländer not calculated. i just checked croatia and denmark. denmark misses 17 of 1400 nodes that i would have needed for a certain check.

Re: [OSM-talk] planet? geofabrik download...

2009-04-27 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:26:46 +0200, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: there are situations where this is needed. for instance when i want to have a rectangle exactly, if i want to clip sharp (maps/pictures). I guess you are referring to painting ways that leave the visible area? on the other hand

Re: [Talk-de] Routing (Re: Hilfe, meine Stadt hat Flecken)

2009-04-14 Thread marcus.wolschon
On 14 Apr 2009 08:50:00 +, addi...@gmx.net (Johann H. Addicks) wrote: Dumm. Eine einigermaßen offizielle Festlegung, was für die einzelnen Straßentypen die Defaultwerte zu Verkehrsbeschränkungen sein sollen, haben wir noch nicht, oder? ... Wenn man aber nun ins südöstliche europäische

Re: [Talk-de] Routing (Re: Hilfe, meine Stadt hat Flecken)

2009-04-14 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:22:47 +0200, Mark Obrembalski mark...@web.de wrote: Johann H. Addicks wrote: Will sagen: Dort sollte man durchaus nicht auf tracks verzichten im KFZ- Routing. Die Routing-Regeln müssen also regional unterschiedlich sein. Das ist auf der hier schon erwähnten

Re: [Talk-de] Routing (Re: Hilfe, meine Stadt hat Flecken)

2009-04-14 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:11:39 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: ich sehe weder tracks noch service als default gesperrt an, wenn das in einzelnen (Bundes-)Ländern so sein sollte, dann würde ich das mit access-Tags klarstellen. Bitte nicht alle diese Wege automatisch beim

Re: [Talk-de] Routing - routing über highway=path

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:39:05 +0200, Mark Obrembalski mark...@web.de wrote: marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: Ich route momentan über alle Path und Service aber nicht über Track. Warum denn über path? Das ist doch eine Sammelkategorie für Wege, denen hauptsächlich gemeinsam ist, dass

Re: [Talk-de] Routing - Dokumentation zu Routenberechnung

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On 14 Apr 2009 15:26:00 +, addi...@gmx.net (Johann H. Addicks) wrote: Anyway: Gerade das Radfahr-Routing ist teilweise extrem wirr, weil a) Querverbindungen zwischen straßenbegleitenden Radwegen an T-Kreuzungen als Überwegs zur gegenüberliegenden Seite vergessen wurden b)

Re: [Talk-de] Routing - trunk

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:46:03 +0200, Mark Obrembalski mark...@web.de wrote: Das ist schon klar, ich gehe aber davon aus, dass ein vernünftiger Router ohnehin nicht drumherumkommt, Straßentypen in unterschiedlichen Ländern auch unterschiedlich zu interpretieren - jedenfalls solange wir nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Routing - trunk

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:09:18 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Das bekannteste Beispiel ist trunk, was im Vereinigten Königreich eine deutlich andere Bedeutung hat als in Deutschland. deutlich anders? In Deutschland nehmen wir trunks für Kraftfahrstraßen, oder? Sind

Re: [Talk-de] Routing - routing über highway=path

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:47:06 +0200, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote: Ich route momentan über alle Path und Service aber nicht über Track. Warum denn über path? Das ist doch eine Sammelkategorie für Wege, denen hauptsächlich gemeinsam ist, dass sie für normale Autos jedenfalls nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Elemente einer Relation in eine andere ü bernehmen

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:06:58 +0200, Dimitri Junker o...@dimitri-junker.de wrote: Hallo, Geht das auch anders ??? So richtig toll geht es nicht, was geht ist folgendes: Beide Relations bearbeiten, in der Quellrelation die Elemente markieren (STRG-A wenn Du alle kopieren willst) und in

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummernmapping Relationen (Karlsruher Schema)

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:04:56 + (UTC), Gernot Hillier ger...@hillier.de wrote: Hallo! Seit einiger Zeit mappe ich Hausnummern nach dem auf http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/House_numbers/Karlsruhe_Schema beschriebenen Vorgehen. Klappt auch alles soweit ganz nett, mir

Re: [Talk-de] Routingprobleme visualisieren?

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:13:55 +0200, Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:45:38AM +0200, Gary G: wrote: Dann einfach in Hamburg any2any alle nodes durchrechnen und selbiges in Muenchen. Danach hat man 1000 Strecken mit einer laenge. Diese laenge einfach morgen wieder

Re: [Talk-de] Routingprobleme visualisieren?

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:45:38 +0200 (MEST), Gary G: g...@gary68.de wrote: Der Relation Check zeigt ja für Relationen lose Enden an. Und genau das ist bei Wegen und Routing ja das Problem! Es wäre möglich, z.B. einen Stadtplan zu zeichnen, der nur bestimmte Elemente der OSM Daten enthält (die

[Talk-de] Suche Tester mit Royaltek TMC-Empfänger

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
Ich bräuchte mal jemanden mit einem Royaltek TMC-Empfänger (also einem der $RTTMC im NMEA sendet) um den neuen Auto-Tuner in Traveling Salesman (SVN-Version, nicht v1.0.0-RC1) zu testen. Da ich nur einem mit GNC-Protokoll habe und hier ein Mitschnitt nicht reicht kann ich das nicht selber testen.

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummernmapping Relationen (Karlsruher Schema)

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:37:34 +0200, Sebastian Hohmann m...@s-hohmann.de wrote: Ich hab das testweise etwas anders gemacht, so wie auf [1] vorgeschlagen. Das funktioniert ganz gut, die Hausnummer ist eindeutig der Straße zugeordnet und man braucht pro Straße nur eine Relation, die man dann

Re: [Talk-de] Hotel mit Restaurant

2009-04-15 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:49:14 +0200, René Falk li...@falconaerie.de wrote: Ich würde auch mehrfach POI für folgende Fälle setzen: - räumliche Trennung von Hotel und Gastro. - unterschiedliche Benamung. - unterschiedliche Eingänge oder Adressen. Das Ganze noch mit einer Building oder

Re: [Talk-de] Routingprobleme visualisieren?

2009-04-16 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:09:12 +0200, Dimitri Junker o...@dimitri-junker.de wrote: Hallo, Lose Enden können auch im Singular auftreten. Und sie müssen nicht zwangsläufig ein Problem sein, da es natürlich Straßen gibt, die einfach irgendwo enden. Es gibt ja ein Sackgassen-Tag, ist dies gesetzt

Re: [Talk-de] Routingprobleme visualisieren?

2009-04-16 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:15:28 +0200, Raphael Studer stude...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Es gibt ja ein Sackgassen-Tag, ist dies gesetzt sollte es natürlich nicht als Fehler markiert werden. So ein Tag hab ich bisher noch nie gesehen. Weder in der Karte noch im Wiki. Hast du mal den Wiki-Link

Re: [Talk-de] Routingprobleme visualisieren?

2009-04-16 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:05:09 +0200, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Du kennst: http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/ ? Hat jemand Ahnung wer das betreibt? Die Seite hat keinerlei Impressum oder Kontakt-Infos und ich würde gerne wissen ob es technisch möglich ist mir eine API für

Re: [Talk-de] Routingprobleme visualisieren?

2009-04-16 Thread marcus.wolschon
Die nötigen Erweiterungen der Komandozeile von Traveling Salesman sind gemacht: http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/travelingsales/index.php?title=Traveling_Salesman#End-Users Muss noch getestet werden aber sollte laufen. Damit kann man TS mit Auszügen einzelner Ortschaften per Script laufen

Re: [Talk-de] Routingprobleme visualisieren?

2009-04-16 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:20:24 +0200, Dimitri Junker o...@dimitri-junker.de wrote: Hallo, Wird anscheinend wenig genutzt. Klar, Wenn die Karte vollständig wäre wäre es unnötig weil Software selber erkennen kann, daß ein Way nur an einem Punkt mit dem Rest der Welt verbunden ist, wenn Du

Re: [Talk-de] Tags Rund um Tiere

2009-04-16 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:20:26 +0200, Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: Moin ! vor einigen Wochen hatte ich mein Vorhaben schon einmal angekündigt. Hier die ersten Gedanken - Bilder folgen noch. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Animal Bitte (ernsthaft) diskutieren !

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