[Tex-music] Musixtex-Installation, MikTex problem?

[Dieter]

Hi, I have recently been installing musixtex 1.15 on a Win7 system 
following the automatized procedure of Andre and Don. Everything works 
fine, but when I call dvips from the command line, then MikteX 2.9 tells me:


The required fonts\map\dvips\musixtex\musix.map is missing It is part 
of the following package: musixtex


and wants to install something, which of course is nonsense. When I 
close the MikTex-dialoguebox, everything runs fine. Therefore I have set 
the MikTex-option of automatic installation of missing packages to no.

Seems to be a problem of MikTeX.
Regards,
Dieter

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Re: [Tex-music] Musixtex-Installation, MikTex problem?

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

I find musix.map after running instmus.bat in the folders 
C:\Users\Dieter\AppData\Roaming\musixtexmf\dvips\config

and in C:\Users\Dieter\AppData\Roaming\musixtexmf\dvipdfm\config.

I did not move any files manually, apart from moving  pmx.tex into  
C:\Users\Dieter\AppData\Roaming\musixtexmf\tex\generic\musixtex and 
pmxab.exe into the tools-folder.


But this is of course not relevant for the problem at hand.

The problem arises only when the MikTeX option has been set to ask for 
package installation on the fly.
This is reproducible. When I say no to the installation pop-up, 
everything runs correctly to the end.


I am convinced that this message is an artefact of MikTeX, because 
already version 2.8 had a problem with this option ask for package 
installation on the fly.


Thanks and regards,
Dieter





Dieter, are you saying that without manually moving any files the
installation does work (including dvips) once you turned off automatic
MiKTeX installation?

FYI the file is copied by the line
xcopy %MUSIXTEXDIR%\dvips\musix.map %ROOT%\dvips\config\
in instmus.bat.

Is that folder present? Is there a copy of musix.map in the folder? Is there
another subfolder named fonts\map\dvips\musixtex?

I've checked my hard drive; there's no subfolder dvips\musixtex but there is
one dvips\config, it contains musix.map, everything works fine.

--Don Simons


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To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: [Tex-music] Musixtex-Installation, MikTex problem?

Hi, I have recently been installing musixtex 1.15 on a Win7 system
following the automatized procedure of Andre and Don. Everything works
fine, but when I call dvips from the command line, then MikteX 2.9 tells

me:

The required fonts\map\dvips\musixtex\musix.map is missing It is part
of the following package: musixtex

and wants to install something, which of course is nonsense. When I
close the MikTex-dialoguebox, everything runs fine. Therefore I have set
the MikTex-option of automatic installation of missing packages to no.
Seems to be a problem of MikTeX.
Regards,
Dieter

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Re: [Tex-music] Musixtex-Installation, MikTex problem?

[Dieter]

Thanks! I will try their advice.

Regards, Dieter

Am 02.02.2012 13:39, schrieb Bob Tennent:

I posted a request about this at miktex-us...@lists.sourceforge.net.
Ulrike Fischer says:

   1. Normally a missing map-file doesn't trigger the on-the-fly
   installation, but you added a reference to musix.map to a local
   config.ps and this probably forces miktex/dvips to find the map.

   2. It sometimes happens that miktex wants to install a file that
   already exists in the system. Reasons can  be:

   a) the file is in the completly wrong place and so not in the search
   path.

   b) The FNDB of the root has not been updated correctly (did you do
   it in user AND admin mode??)

   c) the file is in the search path but not in the place where miktex
   expects it when looking at the on-the-fly database. Then it can
   happen that miktex triggers the on-the-fly installation too early
   (before having gone throught the complete search path).

   In your case miktex is looking for the file in

 fonts\map\dvips\musixtex\musix.map

   but it has been installed

 \dvips\config

   So my guess is the user ran against c).

   I would at first move the map to
   %ROOT%\fonts\map\dvips\musixtex\musix.map, update the FNDBs and
   then try again.


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[Tex-music] PMX: restrict bar lines to the staves of a system (no line in between the staves)

[Dieter]

Hi everybody,

I am using PMX to set a SATB  choir and do not want the bar lines to 
interfere with the text.


I am sure this is a well studied problem, but I could not find a solution.

Thanks and regards,

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Re: [Tex-music] Panmus: a proposal? a dream?

[Dieter]

So, do we go for MusicXML import and export facility for PMX?
Who makes it? What would be the effort? Which technology to use?
Any volunteer to lead such a development?

Not me, but I am ready to contribute.

Priority one would be for me the import facility, because this would 
open PMX for scanner input.
It would also make PMX more attractive for people who want to change 
their music typesetting system.


Once we have this, I expect the export facility to go much faster. This 
would then secure the investment into

PMX scores in case PMX will be no longer maintained.

Regards,
Dieter

Am 14.03.2013 13:13, schrieb Bob Tennent:

  | We need something which can read PMX, M-Tx or ABC; convert it to
  | a central structure; from that central structure write PMX, M-Tx,
  | ABC, MusiXTeX, Lilypond, MIDI, etc.
  |
  | Do we? Yes, there are several text-based formats for describing
  | music (MusiXTeX, PMX, M-Tx, ABC, PMW, LY, ... ). But why would
  | anyone need to *inter-convert* these unless they were abandoning a
  | format and needed to convert legacy files to another format?
  |
  |It seems obvious to me that the input-native-output model of
  |development is more productive than the input-output model. You add
  |the number of supported inputs to the number of supported outputs to get
  |the amount of work, but you multiply them to get the pay-off.

the *potential* pay-off; but the actual pay-off would depend on how
many interconversions are actually used.

  |It also seems obvious to me that relying on tools written in Fortran
  |and Pascal by one-man programmer teams is not ideal in the longer term.

No question.
  
  |But let me demonstrate that even if I have mastered the perfect input

  |language, the Panmus model would still help me.
  |
  |In this whole tex-music game, we are all wearing several hats.
  |
  |- composers/arrangers/transcribers: we've got some scrawled music
  |  in front of us, maybe in our heads, maybe at a piano, we just
  |  want to get it into computer-readable form as fast as possible.
  |
  |- editors/typesetters: we've got a preliminary score into TeX, it
  |  looks less than perfect, we start tweaking it this way and that
  |  by going back to the source code, going through the whole cycle
  |  (thanks for automating this part so nicely) until it is immaculate.
  |
  |- programmers/developers: we continue sharpening our tools and adding
  |  features.
  |
  |The way it is now, I type in originally in musician mode, using only a
  |very basic subset of PMX which I know by heart. (This I may well be a
  |singer who can't even sight-read, basic PMX is that easy.)
  |
  |When I get to the adjustment stage, I switch to editor mode, but since I
  |am not a full-time typesetter, I have to open the PMX Quick Reference
  |card to remind myself of whether left offset is `l` or `e`, etc.
  |
  |All the time the developer in me is saying that a GUI which displays the
  |score and lets me do adjustments via the mouse would be very nice at
  |this point, instead of guessing X so many notehead widths. If I had the
  |luxury of Master's students needing projects (hint-hint), I would be in
  |heaven.
  |
  |Such a GUI would be easier to write if each note is already an object in
  |a Lua table, when the GUI author would not need to know what the source
  |representation was. That Lua table should be exportable not only to MIDI
  |or TeX, but also back to the original source language. I am guaranteed
  |to get nice, clean, correct PMX. If I used M-Tx, the exporter would
  |beautifully align things vertically and insert all the optional bar
  |lines.
  |
  |So even if I continue in my preference to keep music source as M-Tx, the
  |availability of Panmus would improve my productivity, the legibility of
  |my music text and the quality of my printed scores.

I agree that you (and Dirk) have made a case for more
inter-convertibility. But surely we've already missed the boat on
what should be the native format. Every commercial and free music
notation or scanning program I've looked at (except of course ours)
makes an attempt to import and export MusicXML, and some of these
actually work :+) So my more modest counter-proposal (apologies
to Jonathan Swift) is for inter-conversion between PMX/M-Tx and
MusicXML. This would at the very least provide an escape path for
users if (when?) PMX or M-Tx themselves become unmaintainable.

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[Tex-music] How to make straight quavers swing?

[Dieter]

Has anybody got an idea how to make PMX (or the generated midi file) swing,
i.e. translate 2 quavers into a triplet with a tie on the first notes.

Thanks and regards,
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[Tex-music] Coda sign in PMX

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

since you are working on the new release. Is there a chance to make the 
Coda sign available

in PMX similar to the segno?

Regards,


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[Tex-music] funny error with PMX

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

I have strange problem in running a PMX-file  which has been perfectly 
running some years ago.

When I try to run it it says:


Opening minimood.pmx

 Starting first PMX pass
forrtl: severe (64): input conversion error, unit -5, file Internal 
Formatted Re

ad

D:\MUSIX\moodif errorlevel 1 goto pmxerr
=
and later it says:

This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (MiKTeX 2.9)
entering extended mode
! I can't find file `minimood'.
===

This is the beginning of the file, which reproduces the behaviour. Full 
file attached to Mail.
===beginning of 
PMX-File

---
\input musixtex
\input pmx
---
% In the Mood
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
  2  1  4   4   4  4
% npickup nkeys
   0 -2
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
 416 20 0.12
Piano
bt
.\
% Body
% Header
Tc
Music: Joe Garland
Tt
In the mood
h
In the mood ( 1/4 = 126 )
Aabep
% space before first note of bar
% big accidentals
% equalizes interstaff spacing
% type K slurs
% Bars 1-2
b82  d f b t ba o. t b4 o. b8  t | b8 o. t b4 o. b8a a b f d | /
b83 Dmf-5 d f b t bau  o. t b4u o. b8u t | b8u o. t b4u o. b8au a b f d | /
% Bars 3-5
f8 en ef d dfa c4 b8 | r4 Ct r8 b+ zd zf zg r2 | Cb  c42 o. d o. e o. en 
o. | /

f8 en ef d dfa c4 b8 | r8 [ d+ f b  t ] [ b t f d b ] |  g o. r8 r4 r2 | /
% Bars 6 - 8
g4 o. a o. b o. c o. | c- o. d o. e o. en o. | f o. efc o. d o. c o. | /
r2 r4 r8 (u g8 | c o zg+  ) g o zd  c b g1 b g c- c8+ d |
c b g G1sm1xfs+ g o t g t fn4 o G1sm1xa b8 o | /
==END of PMX 
file==


I have seen this behaviour before, and I only remember that it was 
completely stupid, but not what to do.
Other files, where I cannot see a significant formal difference to this 
one run perfectly with my installation.


As you know, I am using Windoze. I cannot discover any funny character 
in the file.


Don't hurry, I will be several days away without access to mail.

Thanks and regards,
Dieter
% In the Mood
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
  2  1  4   4   4  4
% npickup nkeys
   0 -2
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
 416 20 0.12
Piano
bt
.\
% Body
% Header
Tc
Music: Joe Garland
Tt
In the mood
h
In the mood ( 1/4 = 126 )
Aabep
% space before first note of bar
% big accidentals
% equalizes interstaff spacing
% type K slurs
% Bars 1-2
b82  d f b t ba o. t b4 o. b8  t | b8 o. t b4 o. b8a a b f d | /
b83 Dmf-5 d f b t bau  o. t b4u o. b8u t | b8u o. t b4u o. b8au a b f d | /
% Bars 3-5
f8 en ef d dfa c4 b8 | r4 Ct r8 b+ zd zf zg r2 | Cb  c42 o. d o. e o. en o. | /
f8 en ef d dfa c4 b8 | r8 [ d+ f b  t ] [ b t f d b ] |  g o. r8 r4 r2 | /
% Bars 6 - 8
g4 o. a o. b o. c o. | c- o. d o. e o. en o. | f o. efc o. d o. c o. | /
r2 r4 r8 (u g8 | c o zg+  ) g o zd  c b g1 b g c- c8+ d |
c b g G1sm1xfs+ g o t g t fn4 o G1sm1xa b8 o | /
% Bars 9 - 11
( b41 d f g | af g f d ) | ( b d f g  | /
r0 | r0 | r0 | /
% Bars 12 - 14
af4 g f d ) | ( b d f g | af g f d ) | /
r2 r8 b8- zf+ zg zb o. r4 | b4- zf+ zg zb o. r4 r2 | r2 r8 b8- zf+ zg zb o. r4 
| /
% Bars 15 - 18
( e g b c | df c b g ) | ( b41 d f g | af g f d ) | /
b4- zf+ zg zb o. r4 r2 | r2 r8 b8- zf+ zg zb o. r4 | b4- zf+ zg zb o. r4 r2 |
r2 r8 b8- zf+ zg zb o. r4 | /
% Bars 19-22
( f a c a | f o. ) a o. c o. a o. | b o. ( d- o. e o. en o. ) | r2 r8 G1sm1xen 
f4d | /
c- zf za zc o. r4 r2 | r0 | r4 ( d- o. e o. en o. ) | r2 r8 G1sm1xen f4d | /
% Bars 23-26
( b41 d f g | af g f d ) | ( b41 d f g | af g f d ) | /
r4 f43 o. zg zb zd  r8 f83 o. zg zb zd  r4 |
f43d o_ zg zb zd  f83 o. zg zb zd  r8 d+  zb+ zd o. r4 |
d4-  zb+ zd o. f43 o. zg zb zd  r8 f83 o. zg zb zd  r4 |
f43d o_ zg zb zd  f83 o. zg zb zd  r8 d+  zb+ zd o. r4 | /
% Bars 27 - 30
( e g b c | df c b g ) | ( b41 d f g | af g f d ) | /
d45f zb+ zdf o. g43 o. zb zdf zf r8 g83 o. zb zd zf r4 |
g43d o_ zb zdf zf g83 o. zb zd zf r8 d8f+ zb+ zdf o. r4 |
d4nc- zb+ zdnc o. f43 o. zg zb zdnc r8 f83 o. zg zb zd r4 |
f43d o_ zg zb zd f83 o. zg zb zd  r8 d8+ zb+ zd o. r4 | /
% Bars 31 - 32
( f a c a | f ) a o. c o. a o. | /
e4- zb+ ze o. a43 o. zc ze zf r8 a83 o. zc ze zf r4 |
a43d o_ zc ze zf a83 o. zc ze zf r8 f85 zf+ o. r8 f85 zf+ o. | /
% Bars 33 - 34
b4 d- e en |f8d f1e o e4fc o d o c o | /
r8 b84a   [ bn c ] [ cs d e en1 ] | f2 r1 [ f1s o g df ] [ c b g f ] | //
r8b f85 t f4 t fd f8e t | f2 t r2b | /
% Bars 35 - 36
b4 o. r4 r4  ( d8f+ o c o t | c8 ) t r8 r4 f22 o_ zc+ ze | /
r2 r4 ( e85n o ef o t | e t ) r8 r4 a23 o_ zd zfs za | /
% Bars 37 - 38
r2 r4 ( d8f o c t | c t ) r8 r4 f22 o_ zc+ ze | /
r2 r4 ( e85n o ef o t | e t ) r8 r4 a23 o_ zd zfs za

Re: [Tex-music] funny error with PMX

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

thanks a lot for your rapid reply. I do not remember what I intended 
with Aa 2 years ago.

Maybe just experimentation.
This code has been running before. Would have been impossible to write it.

Otherwise I agree completely with your recommendations.

Maybe there are more error traps with similar behaviour? Just a question.

Regards, Dieter


Am 26.03.2013 15:47, schrieb Don Simons:

Dieter--

We can share the blame for this one. The option Aa must be followed by a
decimal number giving the new \afterruleskip (spacing before the first note
in a bar) in \elemskips. The next character in your file is not a digit or
decimal point, but I neglected to trap this error. Will fix in the next
release.

Out of curiosity, what don't you like about the default \afterruleskip?

Also out of curiosity, how did you manage to input so much error-free stuff
without being able to process it?

Comment: To my eye it comes out crowded horizontally. I'd go with 18 systems
on 3 (letter-size) pages, and set AI.9 to reduce \interstaff and increase
vertical space between staves. Might be a little different for a4 paper.

--Don Simons


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From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:24 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: [Tex-music] funny error with PMX

Hi Don,

I have strange problem in running a PMX-file  which has been perfectly
running some years ago.
When I try to run it it says:


Opening minimood.pmx

  Starting first PMX pass
forrtl: severe (64): input conversion error, unit -5, file Internal
Formatted Re
ad

D:\MUSIX\moodif errorlevel 1 goto pmxerr
=
and later it says:

This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (MiKTeX 2.9)
entering extended mode
! I can't find file `minimood'.
===

This is the beginning of the file, which reproduces the behaviour. Full
file attached to Mail.
===beginning of
PMX-File
---
\input musixtex
\input pmx
---
% In the Mood
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
   2  1  4   4   4  4
% npickup nkeys
0 -2
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
  416 20 0.12
Piano
bt
.\
% Body
% Header
Tc
Music: Joe Garland
Tt
In the mood
h
In the mood ( 1/4 = 126 )
Aabep
% space before first note of bar
% big accidentals
% equalizes interstaff spacing
% type K slurs
% Bars 1-2
b82  d f b t ba o. t b4 o. b8  t | b8 o. t b4 o. b8a a b f d | /
b83 Dmf-5 d f b t bau  o. t b4u o. b8u t | b8u o. t b4u o. b8au a b f d | /
% Bars 3-5
f8 en ef d dfa c4 b8 | r4 Ct r8 b+ zd zf zg r2 | Cb  c42 o. d o. e o. en
o. | /
f8 en ef d dfa c4 b8 | r8 [ d+ f b  t ] [ b t f d b ] |  g o. r8 r4 r2 | /
% Bars 6 - 8
g4 o. a o. b o. c o. | c- o. d o. e o. en o. | f o. efc o. d o. c o. | /
r2 r4 r8 (u g8 | c o zg+  ) g o zd  c b g1 b g c- c8+ d |
c b g G1sm1xfs+ g o t g t fn4 o G1sm1xa b8 o | /
==END of PMX
file==

I have seen this behaviour before, and I only remember that it was
completely stupid, but not what to do.
Other files, where I cannot see a significant formal difference to this
one run perfectly with my installation.

As you know, I am using Windoze. I cannot discover any funny character
in the file.

Don't hurry, I will be several days away without access to mail.

Thanks and regards,
Dieter


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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: more than 2 voices in a staff

[Dieter]

Hi Olivier,

your magic trick works perfectly now. Of course I will  have to clean up 
the voices and stem directions.


Thanks again
Dieter

Am 01.09.2013 15:51, schrieb Olivier Vogel:

\\let\oldinterstaff\interstaff\
\\def\interstaff#1{\relax}\
\\setinterinstrument{1}{-12\Interligne}\oldinterstaff{12}\



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Re: [Tex-music] xtuplet composed of notes with different duration

[Dieter]

Hi Jean-Pierre,

many thanks for your rapid reply.

I am using plain PMX. the excerpt is:
%Bars 59-61
a2f+ g4 g | f f f2x3D f | e2dn r4 | /
f2 e4 e | b b b2x3D  b | c2d r4 | /
b2 b4 b | f f f2x3Df | g2d r8 g1 g | /
d2 f4 e | e d d2x3D  e  | c2d r8 b1 c | /

which then looks like:


But what I want is, to break the last quarter note in the soprano 
triplet into two eigth notes.


I am not aware of the tuplet package.

Bye
Dieter Gloetzel



Am 08.08.2014 12:11, schrieb Jean-Pierre Coulon:

Are you using the tuplet package or are you redeveloping what it does?

See my example.

Bye,

Jean-Pierre Coulon


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Re: [Tex-music] xtuplet composed of notes with different duration

[Dieter]

Thanks! Stupid me! I experienced this problem before.

Regards Dieter
Am 09.08.2014 11:26, schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem:

i added the dash lines and the
/forrtl: severe (64): input conversion error, unit -5, file Internal 
Formatted Read/

is no more there.
Andre
==
---
\input musixtex
\input pmx
---
2   1   3   4   3   4   0  -2
1   1   20  0.03
bt
./
w150
\downtrio{-4}{1.6}0\
f23Dx2n f su+1 s-0+4 r4 /
\\\let\qlnew\ql\def\ql#1{\ibl060\qb07\tbl0\qb0{#1}}\
f2Dx2 f r4 /
===
*From:* Dieter mailto:d.gloet...@web.de
*Sent:* Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:00 AM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive mailto:tex-music@tug.org
*Subject:* Re: [Tex-music] xtuplet composed of notes with different 
duration

Hi Andre,

is this a running example?

I added two lines to the beginning of your example:

/\input musixtex//
//\input pmx/


When I am trying to run it on a WIndows PC, I get the following error 
message from PMX:



/Starting first PMX pass//
//
//forrtl: severe (64): input conversion error, unit -5, file Internal 
Formatted Read/


I cannot see anything wrong with the file. My command file runpmx 
works perfectly with any other pmx-file.


May be this is a case for Don.

Am 08.08.2014 11:50, schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem:

I did not found an elegant solution
===
2   1   3   4   3   4   0  -2
1   1   20  .03
bt
./
w150
\downtrio{-4}{1.6}0\
f23Dx2n f su+1 s-0+4 r4 /
\\\let\qlnew\ql\def\ql#1{\ibl060\qb07\tbl0\qb0{#1}}\
f2Dx2 f r4 /

Andre
*From:* Dieter mailto:d.gloet...@web.de
*Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2014 9:58 AM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive mailto:tex-music@tug.org
*Subject:* [Tex-music] xtuplet composed of notes with different duration
I am trying to typeset the upper triplet construct with PMX. The  
lower one works fine, using the D-symbol.

Does anybody have a solution?

Thanks and regards!
Dieter





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Re: [Tex-music] xtuplet composed of notes with different duration

[Dieter]

Hi Andre and Don,

many thanks for your help. Sorry for my stupidities when I restart 
typesetting notes after a longer break.


Andre's solution works fine for my purpose. I will try to find out what 
it means in detail.


Another solution at least in theory would be to make the xtuplet 
construct of PMX nested, however difficult this may be.


Best regards,
Dieter

Am 10.08.2014 08:43, schrieb Don Simons:


I wasn't familiar with \scale. That's a good idea. But to get it 
exactly right, you would only want to scale down the spacing within 
the triplet, not for the full bar.


In PMX the baseline spacing is sqrt(8*t) \elemskip, where t is in 
quarter notes. Of course if there are several lines of music, this 
only applies to the shortest note acting at a given time. For the 
original example, this turns out to mean that the half note in the 
triplet should have 18.4% less space than a regular half note, and the 
eighth note in the triplet should have 18.4% less space than an 
ordinary eighth note.


There are lots of different ways to increase or decrease spacing. 
Three possibilities are \scale with inline TeX, the PMX command X, or 
the TeX command \ast (defined in pmx.tex and used by \ast) with 
argument in \elemskips. Each has advantages and disadvantages. For 
this example, \scale has the advantage that we know its value should 
be 0.82, but getting it to operate only on the triplet notes would be 
tricky since it has to be issued outside a \notes group; also (and 
this is really subtle) PMX will not know about the change in scale, 
and therefore its accounting would be messed up a bit, affecting such 
things as how much extra space is added when accidentals don't fit in 
the available space on the affected line. The PMX command X, with a 
negative argument in notehead widths, would have the advantage that 
the accounting would be properly adjusted, but the disadvantage that 
it would be very difficult to  calculate exactly how many notehead 
widths you'd need to reduce the spacing by the desired percentage. 
Also, X doesn't seem to work between the last note in a bar and the 
barline. \ast has an argument in \elemskips that you could compute 
 exactly from the timing using the above formula, but again, PMX would 
be unaware of the spacing adjustment.


--Don

*From:*TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] *On Behalf Of 
*Andre Van Ryckeghem

*Sent:* Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:39 PM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive
*Subject:* Re: [Tex-music] xtuplet composed of notes with different 
duration


This is a solution, closer to what Dieter needs.

It is done by redefintion of the quarter note to two eight notes, the 
slur is made by trial and error.


It is possible to make a correct slur in inline tex, but i prefer to 
do it in pmx because it is so easy.


I see also in Don's solution that it is possible to partially beam a 
trio, that is nice.


The spacing can be adjusted by using \\\scale{}\ 
file:///%5C%5C%5Cscale%7b%7d%5C


If the meter of the bar is changed, a trio is no more needed?

Andre



---

\input musixtex

\input pmx

---

2   1   4   4   4   4   0  -2

1   1   20  0.03

bt

./

%w200

\\\let\qlnew\ql\ file:///%5C%5C%5Clet%5Cqlnew%5Cql%5C

f43 f f23Dx2 f /

e45 d

\downtrio{-4}{1.6}0\ d25Dx2n 
\def\ql#1{\ibl060\qb0{#1}\tbl0\qb06\let\ql\qlnew}\ e su+1 s-0+4 /


m5400

f43 f \xnum{2}{-3}3\unbkt{-4}{1}0\ f2 f4 /

e45 d \xnum{2}{-3}3\unbkt{-4}{1.3}0\ d2 [ e8 d ] /

\\\scale{0.9}\ file:///%5C%5C%5Cscale%7b0.9%7d%5C

f43 f f2 f4 /

f45 f \downtrio{-4}{1.4}0\ f2 [ e8 d ] /

\\\scale{1}\ file:///%5C%5C%5Cscale%7b1%7d%5C

m4400

g23.r /

c25.r /

=

*From:*Don Simons mailto:dsim...@roadrunner.com

*Sent:*Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:12 PM

*To:*'Werner Icking Music Archive' mailto:tex-music@tug.org

*Subject:*Re: [Tex-music] xtuplet composed of notes with different 
duration


Here's a slightly easier way with hardly any inline TeX, if you're not 
worried about the horizontal spacing being exactly right:


===

2 2 5 4 4 4 0 0

1 1 20 0

tt

.\

w3i

f44 f \xnum{2}{-3}3\unbkt{-4}{1}0\ f2 f4 /

e45 d \xnum{2}{-3}3\unbkt{-4}{1.3}0\ d2 [ e8 d ] /

m4400

g24.r /

c25.r /

===

--Don Simons

*From:*TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] *On Behalf Of *Dieter
*Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2014 12:59 AM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive
*Subject:* [Tex-music] xtuplet composed of notes with different duration

I am trying to typeset the upper triplet construct with PMX. The  
lower one works fine, using the D-symbol.

Does anybody have a solution?

Thanks and regards!
Dieter






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[Tex-music] How can I switch PMX to landscape paper format?

[Dieter]

Hi,

could anybody please tell me, how to influence the paper format when 
typesetting music with PMX?


Thanks and regards,
Dieter
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Re: [Tex-music] How can I switch PMX to landscape paper format?

[Dieter]

Hi Don, thanks for your rapid reply.

on a WIndows/miktex installation it works perfectly as you suggested 
putting the w and h command in PMX and setting the -tlandscape 
option in the call to DVIPS.


However I do have another problem. I have a choir example with two 
staves and 5 verses  (typeset with Musixlyr) between the staves. And I 
need more space between the staves.


I was not successful to resolve the problem with the PMX option AI[x] . 
I know I must do something to the interinstrument distance, but I am not 
so familiar with MusixTeX.


Thanks and kind regards
Dieter

Am 18.10.2014 19:56, schrieb Don Simons:

Within PMX it's pretty easy. Right after the setup data, just set the width
and height of the printed area with built-in PMX commands. For example, for
U.S. lettersize with 1/2 in margins, right after the setup data put

w10i
h7.5i

From that point forward, it's probably system dependent. For myself, under
Windows 7, in my test I found that no changes were needed when running TeX.
For dvips, I used

dvips -tlandscape file.dvi

I can't say whether you'd need a different option for European size paper.
Also, you might want to tweak the vertical and horizontal position of the
postscript output with dvips command line options like -o0.25in,-0.22in; I
didn't mess with that in my test and the postscript output looks slightly
low and to the left of center.

When I converted the .ps to .pdf using convert in gsview32/ghostscript, and
opened the result in Acrobat, it looked OK, the same as the .ps

I also found reference to a postscript special which might provide an
alternate approach, but didn't experiment with it. You could enter the
special via type 4 inline TeX at the top of the PMX file:

---
\special{papersize=11in,8.5in}%
---

but from then on you're on your own.

--Don Simons




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From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:01 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: [Tex-music] How can I switch PMX to landscape paper format?

Hi,

could anybody please tell me, how to influence the paper format when
typesetting music with PMX?

Thanks and regards,
Dieter
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Re: [Tex-music] How can I switch PMX to landscape paper format?

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

please see attachment.

Thanks and regards,
Dieter

Am 19.10.2014 21:14, schrieb Don Simons:

Dieter--

Can you send the mtx or pmx input file?

--Don


-Original Message-
From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:08 PM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] How can I switch PMX to landscape paper format?

Hi Don, thanks for your rapid reply.

on a WIndows/miktex installation it works perfectly as you suggested

putting

the w and h command in PMX and setting the -tlandscape
option in the call to DVIPS.

However I do have another problem. I have a choir example with two staves
and 5 verses  (typeset with Musixlyr) between the staves. And I need more
space between the staves.

I was not successful to resolve the problem with the PMX option AI[x] .
I know I must do something to the interinstrument distance, but I am not

so

familiar with MusixTeX.

Thanks and kind regards
Dieter

Am 18.10.2014 19:56, schrieb Don Simons:

Within PMX it's pretty easy. Right after the setup data, just set the
width and height of the printed area with built-in PMX commands. For
example, for U.S. lettersize with 1/2 in margins, right after the
setup data put

w10i
h7.5i

From that point forward, it's probably system dependent. For myself,

under

Windows 7, in my test I found that no changes were needed when running

TeX.

For dvips, I used

dvips -tlandscape file.dvi

I can't say whether you'd need a different option for European size

paper.

Also, you might want to tweak the vertical and horizontal position of
the postscript output with dvips command line options like
-o0.25in,-0.22in; I didn't mess with that in my test and the
postscript output looks slightly low and to the left of center.

When I converted the .ps to .pdf using convert in
gsview32/ghostscript, and opened the result in Acrobat, it looked OK,
the same as the .ps

I also found reference to a postscript special which might provide an
alternate approach, but didn't experiment with it. You could enter the
special via type 4 inline TeX at the top of the PMX file:

---
\special{papersize=11in,8.5in}%
---

but from then on you're on your own.

--Don Simons




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Dieter
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:01 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: [Tex-music] How can I switch PMX to landscape paper format?

Hi,

could anybody please tell me, how to influence the paper format when
typesetting music with PMX?

Thanks and regards,
Dieter
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% Macht hoch die Tür
---
\input musixtex
\input pmx
\input musixlyr
%\special{papersize=10.7in,7.2in}%
\setlyrics{soprano1}
{\llap{1. }Macht hoch die T\{u}r, die Tor macht weit; es kommt der Herr der 
Herr-lich-keit, 
ein K\{o}-nig al-ler K\{o}-nig-reich, ein Hei-land al-ler Welt zu-gleich, der 
Heil und Le-ben 
mit sich bringt; der-hal-ben jauchzt, mit Freu-den singt: Ge-lo-bet sei mein 
Gott,
mein Sch\{o}p-fer reich von Rat._}
\setlyrics{soprano2}
{\llap{2. }Er ist ge-recht, ein Hel-fer wert; Sanft-m\{u}-tig-keit ist sein 
Ge-f\{a}hrt, 
sein K\{o}-nigs-kron ist Hei-lig-keit, sein Zep-ter ist Barm-her-zig-keit; 
all uns-re Not zum End er bringt, der-hal-ben jauchzt, mit Freu-den singt: 
Ge-lo-bet sei mein Gott, mein Hei-land gro{\ss}  von Tat._}
\setlyrics{soprano3}
{\llap{3. }0 wohl dem Land, o wohl der Stadt, so die-sen K\{o}-nig bei sich 
hat. 
Wohl al-len Her-zen ins-ge-mein, da die-ser K\{o}-nig zie-het ein. 
Er ist die rech-te Freu-den-sonn, bringt mit sich lau-ter Freud und Wonn. 
Ge-lo-bet sei mein Gott, mein Tr\{o}-ster fr\{u}h und spat._}
\setlyrics{soprano4}
{\llap{4. }Macht hoch die T\{u}r, die Tor macht weit, eu'r Herz zum Tem-pel 
zu-be-reit'. 
Die Zweig-lein der Gott-se-lig-keit steckt auf mit An-dacht, Lust und Freud; 
so kommt der K\{o}-nig auch zu euch, ja, Heil und Le-ben mit zu-gleich. 
Ge-lo-bet sei mein Gott, voll Rat, voll Tat, voll Gnad._}
\setlyrics{soprano5}
{\llap{5. }Komm, o mein Hei-land Je-su Christ, meins Her-zens T\{u}r dir 
of-fen ist

Re: [Tex-music] How can I switch PMX to landscape paper format?

[Dieter]

Thanks to Andre.

I got the wanted result with \\setinterinstrument1{11\Interligne}

REgards,
Dieter


Am 20.10.2014 08:45, schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem:
Dear all, this is what i use for changing space between staffs for 
lyrics. The real space depends of the global def: ie AI0.9


For 1 staff, or for under the lowest instrument, use ie.

\\staffbotmarg=2\Interligne\

Between the instruments ie. above instrument 1:

\\setinterinstrument1{3\Interligne}\

Changing spaces between staffs, redefine interstaff, ie:

\\let\interstaffsav\interstaff\def\interstaff#1{}\interstaffsav{14}\


As an example of landscape format, this is what i use for the oblan 
format:


w281m h205m
\\special{papersize=320mm,240mm}\voffset=-12mm\hoffset=0mm\

Andre

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Dieter
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:08 PM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] How can I switch PMX to landscape paper format?

Hi Don, thanks for your rapid reply.

on a WIndows/miktex installation it works perfectly as you suggested
putting the w and h command in PMX and setting the -tlandscape
option in the call to DVIPS.

However I do have another problem. I have a choir example with two
staves and 5 verses  (typeset with Musixlyr) between the staves. And I
need more space between the staves.

I was not successful to resolve the problem with the PMX option AI[x] .
I know I must do something to the interinstrument distance, but I am not
so familiar with MusixTeX.

Thanks and kind regards
Dieter

Am 18.10.2014 19:56, schrieb Don Simons:
Within PMX it's pretty easy. Right after the setup data, just set the 
width
and height of the printed area with built-in PMX commands. For 
example, for

U.S. lettersize with 1/2 in margins, right after the setup data put

w10i
h7.5i

From that point forward, it's probably system dependent. For myself, 
under
Windows 7, in my test I found that no changes were needed when 
running TeX.

For dvips, I used

dvips -tlandscape file.dvi

I can't say whether you'd need a different option for European size 
paper.
Also, you might want to tweak the vertical and horizontal position of 
the
postscript output with dvips command line options like 
-o0.25in,-0.22in; I
didn't mess with that in my test and the postscript output looks 
slightly

low and to the left of center.

When I converted the .ps to .pdf using convert in 
gsview32/ghostscript, and

opened the result in Acrobat, it looked OK, the same as the .ps

I also found reference to a postscript special which might provide an
alternate approach, but didn't experiment with it. You could enter the
special via type 4 inline TeX at the top of the PMX file:

---
\special{papersize=11in,8.5in}%
---

but from then on you're on your own.

--Don Simons




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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:01 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: [Tex-music] How can I switch PMX to landscape paper format?

Hi,

could anybody please tell me, how to influence the paper format when
typesetting music with PMX?

Thanks and regards,
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Re: [Tex-music] Scanner Input for PMX MusicXML sample file added

[Dieter]

I add the XML sample file for comparison.

Regards Dieter

Am 05.11.2014 14:53, schrieb Dirk Laurie:

2014-11-05 15:39 GMT+02:00 Dieter d.gloet...@web.de:


In the last two weeks I have been working on a prototype which reads in
MusicXML and spits out the notes part for PMX. I include as example a
christmas carol for SATB. After scanning there remained some
inaccuracies, which could easily resoved with the notes editor of SharpEye.

Of course, my little prototype does not  (yet) completely implement
MusicXML. Another drawback for wider use of my development might be, that I
employed a somewhat exotic language:  OBERON from Niklaus Wirth of the ETHZ
Zürich.

You are most welcome to further discuss this topic.

This was envisaged by you in the thread Panmus: a proposal? a dream?
about 20 months ago. Congratulations on having made so much progress.
If you put your code on GitHub, others can also try it.

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?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=no?
!DOCTYPE score-partwise
PUBLIC -//Recordare//DTD MusicXML 1.0 Partwise//EN
http://www.musicxml.org/dtds/partwise.dtd;


score-partwise
	identification
		encoding
			softwareSharpEye Music Reader 2/software
			encoding-descriptionScanning program/encoding-description
		/encoding
	/identification

	part-list
		score-part id=P1
			part-namePart_1/part-name
		/score-part
		score-part id=P2
			part-namePart_2/part-name
		/score-part
		score-part id=P3
			part-namePart_3/part-name
		/score-part
		score-part id=P4
			part-namePart_4/part-name
		/score-part
	/part-list

	part id=P1
		measure number = 1
			attributes
divisions2/divisions
key
	fifths-1/fifths
/key
time symbol=common
	beats4/beats
	beat-type4/beat-type
/time
staves1/staves
clef number = 1
	signG/sign
	line2/line
	clef-octave-change0/clef-octave-change
/clef
			/attributes
			note
rest/
duration4/duration
voice1/voice
typehalf/type
notations
/notations
			/note
			note
rest/
duration2/duration
voice1/voice
typequarter/type
notations
/notations
			/note
			note
pitch
	stepA/step
	octave3/octave
/pitch
duration2/duration
voice1/voice
typequarter/type
stemup/stem
notations
/notations
lyric number=1
	syllabicsingle/syllabic
	textNigh/text
/lyric
			/note
		/measure
!--===--
		measure number = 2
			note
pitch
	stepD/step
	octave4/octave
/pitch
duration2/duration
voice1/voice
typequarter/type
stemup/stem
notations
/notations
lyric number=1
	syllabicbegin/syllabic
	textBeth/text
/lyric
			/note
			note
pitch
	stepA/step
	octave4/octave
/pitch
duration2/duration
voice1/voice
typequarter/type
stemup/stem
notations
/notations
lyric number=1
	syllabicend/syllabic
	textlem/text
/lyric
			/note
			note
pitch
	stepA/step
	octave4/octave
/pitch
duration2/duration
voice1/voice
typequarter/type
stemup/stem
notations
/notations
lyric number=1
	syllabicsingle/syllabic
	texton/text
/lyric
			/note
			note
pitch
	stepG/step
	octave4/octave
/pitch
duration2/duration
voice1/voice
typequarter/type
stemup/stem
notations
/notations
lyric number=1
	syllabicsingle/syllabic
	texta/text
/lyric
			/note
		/measure
!--===--
		measure number = 3
			note
pitch
	stepA/step
	octave4/octave
/pitch
duration2/duration
voice1/voice
typequarter/type
stemup/stem
notations
/notations
lyric number=1
	syllabicbegin/syllabic
	textwin/text
/lyric
			/note
			note
pitch
	stepF/step
	octave4/octave
/pitch
duration1/duration
voice1/voice
typeeighth/type
stemup/stem
beam number=1begin/beam
notations
/notations
lyric number=1
	syllabicend/syllabic
	texttry/text
/lyric
			/note
			note
pitch
	stepE/step
	octave4/octave
/pitch
duration1/duration
voice1/voice
typeeighth/type
stemup/stem
beam number=1end/beam
notations
/notations
			/note
			note
pitch
	stepD/step
	octave4/octave
/pitch
duration2/duration
voice1/voice
typequarter/type
stemup/stem
notations
/notations
lyric number=1
	syllabicsingle/syllabic
	textnight/text
/lyric
			/note
			note
pitch
	stepF/step
	octave4/octave
/pitch
duration1/duration
voice1/voice
typeeighth/type
stemup/stem
beam number=1begin

Re: [Tex-music] Scanner Input for PMX

[Dieter]

Don--

thank you for your encouragement. So far I scratched only the surface of 
MusicXML, i.e. the basic notes properties. Now I am trying to decode a 
piano setting with two voices in each stave.
When that works, then I have to think about how to distribute it. Maybe 
I am a bit in a Cul de Sac with my 20 year old Oberon implementation. 
But I could not do the development in any other language. The language 
is simple, but most powerful and the environment is extremely responsive.
We have several options.  I am not totally convinced, that I will get to 
a point where I can distribute an executable. Therefore I will have to 
distribute source code. I will be checking the follower systems at 
Zürich.  Another option would be to rewrite my logic in LUA. But there I 
do not have any practice.


Meanwhile it would be useful (as you say) to have other sources of 
MusicXML than Scanner + SharpEye. So anybody who can provide 
MusicXML-sources will be most welcome.


--Dieter

Am 07.11.2014 00:32, schrieb Don Simons:


Dieter---

Thanks for adding to PMX's utility!

I, and I'm sure others, would gladly try out your MusicXML = PMX 
translator if you would make it available. I'm sure we can find other 
ways to get some MusixXML files besides scanning with the somewhat 
costly software you mentioned.  If you choose to upload, the method is 
up to you...I'm sure Bob Tennent would be willing to set up a link 
from the icking archive, or as suggested earlier you could perhaps use 
github (although I personally detest that site due to its overly 
complicated user interface).


--Don Simons

*From:*TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] *On Behalf Of *Dieter
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 05, 2014 5:39 AM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive
*Subject:* [Tex-music] Scanner Input for PMX

Dear PMX users,

I want to rapidly communicate on my recent experiences with Scanner 
input into PMX.


In my choir we often have the task of modifying existing notes either 
in parts of the  music or the text.
And I do not want any handwritten corrections, but something which 
looks nice. This, of course, I produce with PMX.


Manually turning existing note sheets into PMX code is straightforward 
and quite fast. But with a Scanner it would be much faster.
So I made some experimentation with the Scanner Software *Smart Eye* 
from VISIV /UK.  Smart Eye generates after scanning (among other 
options)  output in terms of MusicXML,
which has been developed by Recordare (www.*musicxml*.com 
http://www.musicxml.com)./


/In the last two weeks I have been working on a prototype which reads 
in MusicXML and spits out the notes partfor PMX.I include as example a 
christmas carol
for SATB. After scanning there remained some inaccuracies, which could 
easily resoved with the notes editor of SharpEye.


The final MusicXML code has not been touched, and everything after  
and including the line % Bar 1 has been generated automatically.


Of course, my little prototype does not (yet) completely implement 
MusicXML. Another drawback for wider use of my development might be, 
that I employed a somewhat exotic language:  OBERON from Niklaus Wirth 
of the ETHZ Zürich.


You are most welcome to further discuss this topic.

Regards,
Dieter
/


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Re: [Tex-music] Scanner Input for PMX

[Dieter]

Many thanks to Don, Bob and Jean-Pierre.
Now we have plenty of XML  test material.

Regards, Dieter

Am 09.11.2014 13:34, schrieb Jean-Pierre Coulon:

 On Sat, 8 Nov 2014, Bob Tennent wrote:

http://imslp.org/index.php?limit=50ilsearch=xmluser=title=Special%3AListFiles 



Enter xml as the media name.


Or type engraving files musicXML in the search field and you will see 
the composers and titles faster. You can add criteria like 'baroque' 
or an intrument etc.


Bye

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Re: [Tex-music] Scanner Input for PMX

[Dieter]

In the sample file I sent around I concentrated on generating the Notes 
Part. The header information was somewhat arbitrary abd was not generated.


Regards, Dieter

Am 10.11.2014 06:15, schrieb Don Simons:

After seeing Christian's post, I compiled Dieter's pmx and quickly compared
it to his xml (as viewed with Finale NotePad). Aside from the 8 on the clef
of the Tenor part, and the extra space at the start of each bar (which was
clearly intentional) I didn't notice any other notable differences. So
Christian, I'm very curious what you are referring to as indications of
problems.

--Don Simons


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From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Christian
Mondrup
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 2:14 PM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Scanner Input for PMX

Dieter wrote:

Many thanks to Don, Bob and Jean-Pierre. Now we have plenty of XML
test material.

I opened the xml file attached to your initial posting with musescore for
comparison with the output from your .pmx file and got indications of some
problems with your software in its state at that time. That method might

turn

out a useful additional testing method.

Greetings
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[Tex-music] Scanner Input for PMX

[Dieter]

Just to report a little progress in interpreting the MusicXML stuff.
The attached notes were scanner output, so the reproduction cannot be 
perfect, but apart from the blind meter change due to the  pickup 
everything was generated.



Regards, Dieter






Vomhimmelhoch.ps
Description: PostScript document
---
\input musixtex
\input pmx
%\staffbotmarg=13cm

---
% In the Mood
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
1
1
4
4
0
6
% npickup nkeys
 22
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
1
4
   16
 0.05

t
.\
Ti

% Body
% Header
Tc
Martin Luther/J.S. Bach
Tt
Vom Himmel hoch
%h
%Vom Himmel hoch
AbepI1.0
It126ipi
% Av
% space before first note of bar
% big accidentals
% equalizes interstaff spacing
% type K slurs
%\\setclef2(\treble)\settrebleclefsymbol(2)\treblelowoct\
% Bar 1
a24l  | //
d25u  | /
m4400
% Bar 2
 (1l a44l g44sl  )1 f24l  | //
c25u b24u  | /
% Bar 3
e24l f44l e44l  | //
c25u a24u  | /
% Bar 4
d24l e24l  | //
b24u c25u  | /
% Bar 5
f24l (1l  f44l g44l  )1  | //
d25u  of  d25u  | /
% Bar 6
a44l g44l f24l  | //
d25u a24u  | /
% Bar 7
e24l d24l  | //
a24u  (1u f44u g44u  )1  | /
% Bar 8
d24l e24l  | //
a24u g24u  | /
% Bar 9
d24l  (1l d44u e44l  )1  | //
f24u  of f24u  | /
% Bar10
f24l e24l  | //
b24u b24u  | /
% Bar11
 (2l e44l g44sl  )2 a24l  | //
 (1u a44u b44u  )1 c25u  | /
% Bar12
a24l b24ur  | //
d45l c45l  (1l a44l g44sl  )1  | /
% Bar13
e24l  of  (1l f44l e44l  )1  | //
a24u d25u  | /
% Bar14
e44l f44u f44l e44l  | //
c25u b24u  | /
% Bar15
c44l d44l b43l c44l  | //
a24u  (1u b44u a44u  )1  | /
% Bar16
d2d4l c44l  | //
 (1u g44u f44u  )1 e24u  | /
m2400
% Bar17
a23l  | //
d24u  of  | /
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[Tex-music] Linebreak and Movement break

[Dieter]

Dear PMXperts,

I generated this wonderful PMX-file (Telemann Fantasie for Flute a 
major) out of MusicXML. There is a movement break (as well as a meter 
change) at Bar 37.
So I put L15M before the notes of the Bar. and get an error condition 
missing number treates as zero, etc. . What am I doing wrong? Without 
the M

everything works fine.

Regards Dieter



---
\input musixtex
\input pmx
%\staffbotmarg=13cm

---
% In the Mood
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
 1
 1
 4
 4
 0
 6
% npickup nkeys
 0 3
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
 2
 18
 16
 0.05

t
.\
Ti

% Body
% Header
Tc
Georg Philipp Telemann
Tt
1. Fantasie \\f\{u}r Querfl\{o}te ohne Bass, A-dur
h
Vivace
AbepI1.0
It126ipi
% Av
% space before first note of bar
% big accidentals
% equalizes interstaff spacing
% type K slurs
%\\setclef2(\treble)\settrebleclefsymbol(2)\treblelowoct\
% Bar 1
 {l a44u [ a14u } b14u a14u e14u ] [ a14u c15u a14u e14u ] [ a14u b14u a14u 
e14u ] | /
% Bar 2
 [ a14u c15u a14u e14u ] [ a14l e15l a14l e14l ] [ a14l e15l f15l d15l ] [ e15l 
c15l d15l b14l ] | /
% Bar 3
 [ c15l e15l f15l d15l ] [ e15l c15l d15l b14l ] [ c15l a14l b14l c15l ] [ d15l 
e15l f15l g15l ] | /
% Bar 4
 [ a15l e15l c15l a14l ] [ a15l e15l c15l a14l ] [ a85l a84l ] r4 | /
% Bar 5
 [ d15l c15l ] d4d5l [ f15l d8d5l ] [ a15l d8d5l ] | /
% Bar 6
 [ c15l b14l ] c4d5l [ e15l c8d5l ] [ a15l c8d5l ] | /
% Bar 7
 [ d14u c15u b14u a14u ] [ f15l c15l b14l a14l ] [ d14u c15u b14u a14u ] [ f15l 
c15l b14l a14l ] | /
% Bar 8
 [ d14su c15u b14u a14u ] [ a15l c15l b14l a14l ] [ d14u c15u b14u a14u ] [ 
a15l c15l b14l a14l ] | /
% Bar 9
 [ e14u g14u b14u g14u ] [ e15l b14l g15l e15l ] [ e14u a14u c15u a14u ] [ e15l 
c15l a15l e15l ] | /
% Bar 10
 [ e14u g14u b14u g14u ] [ e15l b14l g15l e15l ] [ b85l e84l ] r4 | /
% Bar 11
a44u o^ d45l o^ c45l o^ f45l o^ | /
% Bar 12
 [ d85u b84u e85u e84u ] [ a84u c85u b84u a84u ] | /
% Bar 13
 [ e85l g84l a85l f84l ] [ g85l e84l c86l a84l ] | /
% Bar 14
 [ a85l f85l b85l b84l ] [ e85l g84l c85l b84l ] | /
% Bar 15
 [ a84sl e15l f35l g35nl ] [ f85l e85l ] [ d85u f84u b84u a84nu ] | /
% Bar 16
 [ g84l d15l e35l f35l ] [ e85l d85l ] [ c85u g14nu a34u b34u ] [ a84u g84u ] | 
/
% Bar 17
 [ d85l f84l g85nl e84l ] [ f85l d84l b85l g84nl ] | /
% Bar 18
 [ g85nl e85l a85l a84l ] [ d14u d15u c15u d15u ] [ f15l d15l c15l d15l ] | /
% Bar 19
 [ d14u d15u c15u d15u ] [ a15l d15l c15l d15l ] [ a14l c15l b14l c15l ] [ e15l 
c15l b14l c15l ] | /
% Bar 20
 [ a14l c15l b14l c15l ] [ a15l c15l b14l c15l ] [ g14l d15l c15l d15l ] [ e15l 
d15l c15l d15l ] | /
% Bar 21
 [ e14u d15u c15u d15u ] [ b15l d15l c15l d15l ] [ a84l c86l d85l b85l ] | /
% Bar 22
 [ c85l a85l f85l a85l ] [ d15l f15l b14l d15l ] [ e15l g15l e14l d15l ] | /
% Bar 23
 [ a14l d15l c15l b14l ] [ c85u f84u ] [ d84l b85l e84l g85l ] | /
% Bar 24
 [ a84l g85nl d85l f85l ] [ c15l a15l g15sl a15l ] [ f15l a15l g15l a15l ] | /
% Bar 25
 [ d85u b84u e85u e84u ] [ a84l c15l b14l ] [ c85u f84u ] | /
% Bar 26
 [ d84l b85l e85l g85l ] a44u r4 | /
% Bar 27
 {u a45l [ a85x3 } e5l c5l ] [ e85x3 c5l a4l ] [ a85x3 e5l c5l ] [ e85x3 c5l 
a4l ] r4 | /
% Bar 28
 {u g45nl [ g85x3 } e5l c5l ] [ e85x3 c5l a4l ] [ g85x3 e5l c5l ] [ e85x3 c5l 
a4l ] r4 | /
% Bar 29
 [ f35l c35l d8d5l ] [ e35l c35l d8d5l ] [ a35l c35l d8d5l ] [ e35l c35l d8d5l 
] | /
% Bar 30
 {u b45l [ b85x3 } f5l d5sl ] [ f85x3 d5l b4l ] [ b85x3 f5l d5l ] [ f85x3 d5l 
b4l ] r4 | /
% Bar 31
 {u a45l [ a85x3 } f5l d5sl ] [ f85x3 d5l b4l ] [ a85x3 f5l d5l ] [ f85x3 d5l 
b4l ] r4 | /
% Bar 32
 [ g35l d35sl e8d5l ] [ f35l d35l e8d5l ] [ b35l d35l e8d5l ] [ f35l d35l e8d5l 
] | /
% Bar 33
 [ f14l d35nl c35l d15l f15l ] r1 [ f15l e15l d15l ] [ g14l d35l c35l d15l f15l 
] r1 [ f15l e15l d15l ] | /
% Bar 34
 [ a14l c35l b34l c15l a15l ] [ g14l c15l e15l a15l ] [ f14l c35l b34l c15l 
a15l ] [ e14l c15l e15l a15l ] | /
% Bar 35
 [ d84su r1 c15u ] [ c8d5l b34l c35l ] [ e14l o^ (1u b14l d15sl e15l )1 ] [ 
a14l o^ (1u c15l d15l e15l )1 ] | /
% Bar 36
 [ g14l o^ (1u b14l d15sl e15l )1 ] [ f14l o^ (1u a14l d15l e15l )1 ] e44u r4 | 
/
% Bar 37
m3/8/3/8 
L15M
[ c15l d15l e15l c15l d15l b14l ] | /
% Bar 38
 [ a14u b14u a14u g14u a84u ] | /
% Bar 39
 [ b14u c15u d15u e14u d85u ] | /
% Bar 40
 [ d85l c15l b14l c85l ] | /
% Bar 41
 [ f15l g15l a15l c15l f15l e15l ] | /
% Bar 42
 [ d15sl e15l f15l d15l b14l a14l ] | /
% Bar 43
 [ g14l e15l ] [ f84u d85su ] | /
% Bar 44
 [ e14l g14l b14l e15l d15sl e15l ] | /
% Bar 45
 [ e14l a14l c15l e15l d15sl e15l ] | /
% Bar 46
 [ e14l g14l b14l e15l d15sl e15l ] | /
% Bar 47
 [ g14l e15l ] [ f84u d85su ] | /
% Bar 48
 [ e85u e84u ] r8 | /
 Rr 
% Bar 49
 Rl [ d15nl e15l f15l d15l e15l c15l ] | /
% Bar 50
 [ d85l c85l b84l ] | /
% Bar 51
 [ c15l d15l e15l c15l d15l b14l ] | /
% Bar 52
 [ c85l b84l a84l ] | /
% Bar 53
 [ f15l e15l f15l d15l c15l d15l ] | /
% Bar 54
 [ a15l g15l a15l c15l b14l a14l ] | /
% Bar 55
 [ b84u e84u g84u ] | /
% Bar 56
 [ a14l c15l e15l a15l g15l a15l ] | /
% Bar 57

Re: [Tex-music] Linebreak and Movement break

[Dieter]

Thanks for your effort, Luigi!

Maybe I should update my version, which is  2617  from January 2012.

This is what the errror message tells us.
*
! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
   \let
\generalmeter #1-\let
   \Writ@meters \writ@meters \m@loop \s@l@ctm@t 
\m@t {{#...


\body ...m \noinstrum@nt \nbinstruments \advance
  \noinstrum@nt \@ne 
\s@l@ct...


\iterate -\body
 \let \next \iterate \else \let \next \relax \fi \next
\comp@internote ... \endcsname \Internote \repeat
  \line@width \hsize
\startpiece ...\fi \barsinpi@c@ \z@ \piece@begina
  \leavevmode 
\piece@beginb ...

...
l.269 \alaligne

Regards, Dieter

Am 27.11.2014 18:42, schrieb Luigi Cataldi:

Dear Dieter,
on my computer (Ubuntu Linux) PMX works fine with no error messages with your 
source file.

Regards Luigi

On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 17:47:49 +0100
Dieter d.gloet...@web.de wrote:


Dear PMXperts,

I generated this wonderful PMX-file (Telemann Fantasie for Flute a
major) out of MusicXML. There is a movement break (as well as a meter
change) at Bar 37.
So I put L15M before the notes of the Bar. and get an error condition
missing number treates as zero, etc. . What am I doing wrong? Without
the M
everything works fine.

Regards Dieter








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Re: [Tex-music] Linebreak and Movement break

[Dieter]

@Don: You were right. I used the new pmx.tex and the old pmxab.exe. 
I had already the 2.7 version on MikTex, but due to a wrong path, I was 
using the older version.
@Dirk: The notes part of Telemann has been generated completely and 
automatically by my little program. The control block before the notes 
was reused and adapted from some earlier work. Therefore the erroneous 
pointer to In the mood. I will also make an effort on the control block.


In order to finish my prototype and make it available for test, I have 
to sort out a few more things:

(1) Volta (ending in terms of MusicXML)
(2) h, l and D, Df etc. (directions and words in terms of 
MusicXML)
(3) Then I am not sure, whether my implementation of tuplets is robust 
enough. Certainly it is not complete, but triplets work.
(4) Certain ornaments (like staccatissimo occurring in Telemann) I 
cannot reproduce. I approximated it with o^.
(5) Then I have to sort out more complicated combinations of parts 
(=instruments), staves and voices. MusicXML goes from top to bottom, 
unlike PMX.


Meanwhile, when you are interested in testing XML2PMX, you should get 
hold of an Oberon Installation for Windows at:
ftp://ftp.ethoberon.ethz.ch/Oberon/System3/Win95NT/PlugIn/ and make 
yourself a bit familiar with it.
Oberon is an extremely powerful language and comes with a well 
integrated development system. I could not do the job with any other 
language.
But this may be due to my lack of formal education in computer science, 
not uncommon in my generation.


When you are interested in the test, please let me know. I would rather 
send the stuff directly to the interested parties and not to the whole 
mailing list.


Regards,
Dieter


Am 27.11.2014 20:11, schrieb Dirk Laurie:

2014-11-27 18:47 GMT+02:00 Dieter d.gloet...@web.de:


I generated this wonderful PMX-file (Telemann Fantasie for Flute a major)
out of MusicXML.

By hand or using some software?

In the latter case, how did In the Mood get into the PMX file?
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[Tex-music] XML 2 PMX experience

[Dieter]

Dear PMXperts,

I found a nice XML file on 
http://imslp.org/index.php?limit=50ilsearch=xmluser=title=Special%3AListFiles


PMLP126430-Vivaldi - Sonata Follia 3celli mandozzi.xml.zip 
http://imslp.org/wiki/File:PMLP126430-Vivaldi_-_Sonata_Follia_3celli_mandozzi.xml.zip 
(Datei 
http://imslp.org/images/c/c8/PMLP126430-Vivaldi_-_Sonata_Follia_3celli_mandozzi.xml.zip)


The XML contains three parts for the three Violoncelli. Vivaldi.pmx 
just contains the first Violoncello.


Apart from few manually corrected errors (such as an undocumented meter 
change before Bar 209)   it has been generated automatically with my 
OBERON program.
I include also the PMX console text. I think I need some Expert help to 
get PMX going on this file.


The PMX stuff before % Bar 1 has not been generated and is just there 
to make it run.


Regards,
Dieter

% Vivaldi
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
 1
 1
 3
 4
 3
 4
% npickup nkeys
 0 -1
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
 0
 20
 16
 0.05

t
.\
Ti

% Body
% Header
Tc
Antonio Vivaldi
Tt
Trio für 3 Celli
h
Vivace
AbepI1.0
It126ipi
% Av
% space before first note of bar
% big accidentals
% equalizes interstaff spacing
% type K slurs
%\\setclef2(\treble)\settrebleclefsymbol(2)\treblelowoct\

% Bar 1
h

d44l d4d4l d84l | /
% Bar 2
c44sl c4d4l c84l | /
% Bar 3
d44l d4d4l d84l | /
% Bar 4
e44l e4d4l e84l | /
% Bar 5
f44l f4d4l f84l | /
% Bar 6
e44l e4d4l e84l | /
% Bar 7
d44l d4d4l d84l | /
% Bar 8
c2d4sl | /
% Bar 9
h

d44l d4d4l d84l | /
% Bar 10
c44sl c4d4l c84l | /
% Bar 11
d44l d4d4l d84l | /
% Bar 12
e44l e4d4l e84l | /
% Bar 13
f44l f4d4l f84l | /
% Bar 14
e44l e84l f84l g44l | /
% Bar 15
h

f84l e14l d14l c4d4sl d84l | /
% Bar 16
d2d4l | /
% Bar 17
h

f44l f8d4l g14l a8d4l f14l | /
% Bar 18
e44l e4d4l e84l | /
% Bar 19
f44l f8d4l g14l a8d4l f14l | /
% Bar 20
g44l g4d4l g84l | /
% Bar 21
a44l a8d4l b14l c8d5l a14l | /
% Bar 22
g44l g8d4l a14l b8d4l g14l | /
% Bar 23
f44l f8d4l g14l a8d4l f14l | /
% Bar 24
e2d4l | /
% Bar 25
f44l f8d4l g14l a8d4l f14l | /
% Bar 26
e44l e4d4l e84l | /
% Bar 27
f44l f8d4l g14l a8d4l f14l | /
% Bar 28
g44l g4d4l g84l | /
% Bar 29
a44l a8d4l b14l c8d5l a14l | /
% Bar 30
g8d4l a14l b4d4l b84l | /
% Bar 31
h

a84l g14l f14l e4d4l d84l | /
% Bar 32
d2d4l | /
% Bar 33
h

d43u f44l r4 | /
% Bar 34
c43su e44l r4 | /
% Bar 35
f43u f44l r4 | /
% Bar 36
e43u g44l r4 | /
% Bar 37
a43l a44l r4 | /
% Bar 38
e43u g44l r4 | /
% Bar 39
f43u a44l b44l | /
% Bar 40
e44l c44sl c43su | /
% Bar 41
 r4 d44l d43u | /
% Bar 42
 r4 c44sl c43su | /
% Bar 43
 r4 d44l d43u | /
% Bar 44
 r4 e44l e43u | /
% Bar 45
 r4 f44l f43u | /
% Bar 46
 r4 g44l f44l | /
% Bar 47
h

b44l e4d4l d84l | /
% Bar 48
d2d4l | /
% Bar 49
h

 r4 r8 f83l a83l d84l | /
% Bar 50
c44sl r8 e83u a83u c84u | /
% Bar 51
d44l r8 f83l a83l d84l | /
% Bar 52
e44l r8 c84l e84l g84l | /
% Bar 53
f44l r8 a83l c84l f84l | /
% Bar 54
e44l r8 c84sl e84l g84l | /
% Bar 55
f44l r8 d84l f84l d84l | /
% Bar 56
c44sl r8 e84l a43l | /
% Bar 57
 r8 a83u f83u d83u f44l | /
% Bar 58
 r8 a83u e83u c83su e44l | /
% Bar 59
 r8 a83u f83u d83u f44l | /
% Bar 60
 r8 c84u g83u e83u g44l | /
% Bar 61
 r8 c84l a83l f83l a44l | /
% Bar 62
g44l f44l e44l | /
% Bar 63
h

f84l g84l e4d4l d84l | /
% Bar 64
d2d4l | /
% Bar 65
h

 rp | /
% Bar 66
 r1 a14l g14l f14l e14l d14l c14sl b13nl a83l a84l | /
% Bar 67
f44l r4 r4 | /
% Bar 68
 r1 c15l b14l a14l g14l f14l e14l d14l c84l c85l | /
% Bar 69
a44l r4 r4 | /
% Bar 70
 r1 a14l g14l f14l e14l d14l c14sl b13nl a83l a84l | /
% Bar 71
f44l r4 r4 | /
% Bar 72
e44l g4d4l g84l | /
% Bar 73
f44l r4 r4 | /
% Bar 74
 r1 a14l g14l f14l e14l d14l c14sl b13nl a83l a84l | /
% Bar 75
f44l r4 r4 | /
% Bar 76
 r1 c15l b14l a14l g14l f14l e14l d14l c84l c85l | /
% Bar 77
a44l r4 r4 | /
% Bar 78
 r1 a14l g14l f14l e14l d14l c14sl b13nl a83l g84l | /
% Bar 79
h

f84l (u e14l d14l ) c4d4sl d84l | /
% Bar 80
d2d4l | /
% Bar 81
h

 rp | /
% Bar 82
a84l e84l c84sl a83l e84l g84l | /
% Bar 83
f44l f4d4l f84l | /
% Bar 84
g84l e84l c84l e84l g84l b84l | /
% Bar 85
a4d4l a84l c84l a84l | /
% Bar 86
g4d4l g84l c84sl g84l | /
% Bar 87
f84l d84l a4d4l b84l | /
% Bar 88
c84sl a84l (u a84l g84l ) (u g84l f84l ) | /
% Bar 89
f44l r4 r4 | /
% Bar 90
a84l e84l c84sl a83l e84l g84l | /
% Bar 91
f44l f4d4l f84l | /
% Bar 92
g84l e84l c84l e84l g84l b84l | /
% Bar 93
a4d4l a84l c84l a84l | /
% Bar 94
g4d4l g84l c84sl g84l | /
% Bar 95
f84l c84sl d84u f83u a82u c84u | /
% Bar 96
d2d4l | /
% Bar 97
h

 r4 r1 f14l a14l f14l d14l a13l a14l f14l | /
% Bar 98
e44l r1 e14l a14l e14l c14sl a13l g14l e14l | /
% Bar 99
f44l r1 f14l a14l f14l d14l a13l a14l f14l | /
% Bar 100
g44l r1 g14l c15l g14l e14l c14l c15l g14l | /
% Bar 101
a44l r1 a14l c15l a14l f14l c14l c15l a14l | /
% Bar 102
g44l r1 b14l g14l e14l c14sl e14l g14l e14l | /
% Bar 103
f44l r1 f14l a14l f14l d14l a13l f14l d14l | /
% Bar 104
c84sl a83l e14l a14l e14l c14l a13l e14l a14l g14l | /
% Bar 105
f44l r1 f14l a14l f14l d14l a13l a14l f14l

Re: [Tex-music] XML 2 PMX experience

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

thanks for your rapid reply. I had forgotten for the moment, that the 
meaning of nsystems changes with npages = 0. I will investigate on your 
other observations.


Regards, Dieter

Am 03.12.2014 17:09, schrieb Don Simons:


When you set (npages,nsystems) to (0,20) you are asking PMX to squeeze 
20 bars on average into each system. PMX seemed OK with that but 
MusiXTeX was not. I tried (0,5), and it went through just fine. But it 
looks like it's all an octave too low, and lots of stems are going in 
the wrong direction.


--Don Simons

*From:*TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] *On Behalf Of *Dieter
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 7:22 AM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive
*Subject:* [Tex-music] XML 2 PMX experience

Dear PMXperts,

I found a nice XML file on 
http://imslp.org/index.php?limit=50ilsearch=xmluser=title=Special%3AListFiles


PMLP126430-Vivaldi - Sonata Follia 3celli mandozzi.xml.zip 
http://imslp.org/wiki/File:PMLP126430-Vivaldi_-_Sonata_Follia_3celli_mandozzi.xml.zip 
(Datei 
http://imslp.org/images/c/c8/PMLP126430-Vivaldi_-_Sonata_Follia_3celli_mandozzi.xml.zip)


The XML contains three parts for the three Violoncelli. Vivaldi.pmx 
just contains the first Violoncello.


Apart from few manually corrected errors (such as an undocumented 
meter change before Bar 209)   it has been generated automatically 
with my OBERON program.
I include also the PMX console text. I think I need some Expert help 
to get PMX going on this file.


The PMX stuff before % Bar 1 has not been generated and is just 
there to make it run.


Regards,
Dieter

  



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Re: [Tex-music] XML 2 PMX experience: The clef should have been n

[Dieter]

WIth Tenor clef it looks much better.

Regards, DIeter

Am 03.12.2014 17:09, schrieb Don Simons:


When you set (npages,nsystems) to (0,20) you are asking PMX to squeeze 
20 bars on average into each system. PMX seemed OK with that but 
MusiXTeX was not. I tried (0,5), and it went through just fine. But it 
looks like it's all an octave too low, and lots of stems are going in 
the wrong direction.


--Don Simons

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*Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 7:22 AM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive
*Subject:* [Tex-music] XML 2 PMX experience

Dear PMXperts,

I found a nice XML file on 
http://imslp.org/index.php?limit=50ilsearch=xmluser=title=Special%3AListFiles


PMLP126430-Vivaldi - Sonata Follia 3celli mandozzi.xml.zip 
http://imslp.org/wiki/File:PMLP126430-Vivaldi_-_Sonata_Follia_3celli_mandozzi.xml.zip 
(Datei 
http://imslp.org/images/c/c8/PMLP126430-Vivaldi_-_Sonata_Follia_3celli_mandozzi.xml.zip)


The XML contains three parts for the three Violoncelli. Vivaldi.pmx 
just contains the first Violoncello.


Apart from few manually corrected errors (such as an undocumented 
meter change before Bar 209)   it has been generated automatically 
with my OBERON program.
I include also the PMX console text. I think I need some Expert help 
to get PMX going on this file.


The PMX stuff before % Bar 1 has not been generated and is just 
there to make it run.


Regards,
Dieter

  



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Re: [Tex-music] XML 2 PMX experience: The clef should have been n

[Dieter]

Hi Luigi,
you are perfectly right with the stem directions. I am still in a phase 
of prototyping where I try to catch as much information as possible from 
the XML Format.


The same is true for beams. For example in the Telemann Flute Fantasy 
every beam is explicitely described in the XML code, whereas when I 
discard the beam information, PMX and MusixTex produce 99 % of the 
beaming as desired. Only one beam with a 16th rest in the middle has to 
be manually inserted.


So whenever my development goes into production it should have options 
to switch stems and beams on or off.


Anyhow I am not very satisfied with the XML code. It is not really 
standardized. Every Software maker has some specialties like dot/ or 
dot / for a dotted note.
And so there are many IF THEN ELSE statements in my program code. And it 
is not just a logical description of the music, but contains a lot of 
detailed dimensioning, where to put texts etc.

So it looks more like Powerpoint for Music.

Regards,
Dieter

Am 04.12.2014 18:49, schrieb Luigi Cataldi:

On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 16:01:49 +0100
Dieter d.gloet...@web.de wrote:


WIth Tenor clef it looks much better.

Regards, DIeter


Dear Dieter,
tenor clef is the right choice, but I think that the problem comes with the 
fact that every note has own stem direction inserted in the code, like, I 
suppose, happens to the xml code. One of the better feature of PMX is that not 
all the specifications of the note are needed for each note. Isn't possible to 
omit in the resulting PMX code the information about the stem direction (l or 
u), or, better, let the choice to the user if include or not this information 
in the resulting PMX code?

The same happens for the octave specification of the note, but in this case the problem, 
I suppose, is bigger, because if the note is more than a fourth away from the most 
recent note octave number or +/- is requested. Nevertheless with those two features 
should be possible traspositions.


A sincere compliment for your work.

Luigi




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[Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?

[Dieter]

hi,

I discovered some of my contributions to this mailing list on certain 
mirror sites:


/permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/675
/

/
comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682/http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=enu=http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682prev=search

/https://www.mail-archive.com/tex.../msg03583.html
/

Are you aware of this? Is this wanted? Does anybody know anything about 
this?


I am only a bit nervous, because I left inadvertently my home adress on 
some of these.


Regards, Dieter

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Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?

[Dieter]

Hi Christian,

I really do not want anything being mirrored. So my questions are (to 
you and the MusixTex community):
(1) Who is behind gmane.org and mail-archive.com, who are already 
mirorring our mail?

(2) Does anyone see any benefit in these mirroring activities?
(3) Have they been authorized by Werner Icking Music Archive 
tex-music@tug.org to do so?

(4) How can they do this technically and legally?
(5) What can we do to stop this and remove our mails from these sites?

Regards,
Dieter

Am 05.12.2014 19:42, schrieb Christian Mondrup:

maurizio .mau. codogno wrote:

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Dieter d.gloet...@web.de wrote:

hi,

I discovered some of my contributions to this mailing list on 
certain mirror

sites:

 permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/675


comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.music/682

https://www.mail-archive.com/tex.../msg03583.html

Are you aware of this? Is this wanted? Does anybody know anything about
this?



mail-archive.org is actually a mirror; the other ones are unknown at
least to me.


I've had a look at the other 2 links. By reading the gmane.org 'about' 
information, http://gmane.org/faq.php I feel comfortable about this 
project. If we really want its mirroring of texmusic taken down there 
are instructions on how to accomplish that. But I don't see any reason 
to do so.


Greetings



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Re: [Tex-music] Mirrors of our Maiing List?

[Dieter]

Thanks to all for clarifying the situation.

I was not aware, that such services exist.

Regards Dieter

Am 06.12.2014 11:59, schrieb David Allsopp:

Dieter wrote:

Hi Christian,

I really do not want anything being mirrored. So my questions are (to you
and the MusixTex community):
(1) Who is behind gmane.org and mail-archive.com, who are already
mirorring our mail?

gmane isn't just mirroring - its primary purpose is to convert an email list to 
NNTP (news).


(2) Does anyone see any benefit in these mirroring activities?

I don't use it personally, but I know from other lists of plenty of people who 
use gmane as their preferred mailing list reader.


(3) Have they been authorized by Werner Icking Music Archive tex-
mu...@tug.org to do so?

This is a public mailing list with no restrictions on signing up: IANAL, but no 
authorisation is required to use the unaltered content of the list further 
(certainly in the UK and the US).


(4) How can they do this technically and legally?

They have probably signed up a bot to the mailing list. Legally, see (3).


(5) What can we do to stop this and remove our mails from these sites?

Personally, I find mail archives useful for this and many other lists which I 
am on (and find it slightly daft that a public mailing list restricts its 
mailman archives to subscribed users). In my opinion, the only (unfortunate) 
issue here is that you hadn't considered that this is a public list. Equally, 
my home address (being also my business address) is on my website, so my 
paranoia regarding email signatures is somewhat less than yours! :o)


David

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[Tex-music] Translation from MusicXML to PMX: here Duoles in 9/8 meter

[Dieter]

During my investigation of MusicXML and a piece of Vivaldi I ran into a 
duole.


PMX-code translated from MusicXML: is
d4d3x2 g3l a43l r8 a42u r8 | / and the result is :


I would have expected that the duole consists of 2 eigths instead of 2 quarters.

Regards,
Dieter

P.S. This is the corresponding MusicXML Code. A duration of 256 corresponds 
to a quarter note. IS it not amazing how extremely well PMX compresses the information?

 !--== Part: P3, Measure: 207 ==--
  measure number=207 width=271
   note color=#00 default-x=15 default-y=-20
pitch
 stepD/step
 octave3/octave
/pitch
duration192/duration
instrument id=P3-I1 /
voice1/voice
typeeighth/type
time-modification
 actual-notes2/actual-notes
 normal-notes3/normal-notes
 normal-typeeighth/normal-type
/time-modification
stemdown/stem
staff1/staff
notations
 tuplet type=start bracket=no number=1 default-y=-172 
placement=above /
/notations
   /note
   note color=#00 default-x=60 default-y=-20
pitch
 stepG/step
 octave3/octave
/pitch
duration192/duration
instrument id=P3-I1 /
voice1/voice
typeeighth/type
time-modification
 actual-notes2/actual-notes
 normal-notes3/normal-notes
 normal-typeeighth/normal-type
/time-modification
stemdown/stem
staff1/staff
notations
 tuplet type=stop bracket=no number=1 default-y=-172 
placement=above /
/notations
   /note
   note color=#00 default-x=109 default-y=-35
pitch
 stepA/step
 octave3/octave
/pitch
duration256/duration
instrument id=P3-I1 /
voice1/voice
typequarter/type
stemdown/stem
staff1/staff
   /note
   note default-x=151
rest /
duration128/duration
instrument id=P3-I1 /
voice1/voice
typeeighth/type
staff1/staff
   /note
   note color=#00 default-x=181
pitch
 stepA/step
 octave2/octave
/pitch
duration256/duration
instrument id=P3-I1 /
voice1/voice
typequarter/type
stemup/stem
staff1/staff
   /note
   note default-x=241
rest /
duration128/duration
instrument id=P3-I1 /
voice1/voice
typeeighth/type
staff1/staff
   /note
  /measure


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Re: [Tex-music] Translation from MusicXML to PMX: here Duoles in 9/8 meter

[Dieter]

Sorry! Duole is the German word. We also say Triole instead of triplet.
Thanks for the hint.
Dieter

Am 10.12.2014 03:06, schrieb Don Simons:


I'd call it a duplet J.

If you really want flags on it, this works (much to my amazement):

[m1 d4d3x2 g3l ] a43l r8 a42u r8 | /

I don't remember ever looking for a reference when I made up the rules 
PMX uses to decide the multiplicity of xtuplets. For this case, if 
we call the duration of an eighth note 1 then a quarter would be 2, a 
dotted quarter 3, and each member of the duplet would be 3/2=1.5, 
which is exactly half way between 1 and 2. Does anybody know if 
there's an official rule for this case?


As for the economy of the PMX input language, that was very 
intentional. I chose to make it as terse as possible, at the expense 
of clarity. For someone who didn't know either language, I think he 
could make better guesses about the meaning of the different commands 
in the XML than in PMX.


--Don

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*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:36 AM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive
*Subject:* [Tex-music] Translation from MusicXML to PMX: here Duoles 
in 9/8 meter


During my investigation of MusicXML and a piece of Vivaldi I ran into 
a duole.


PMX-code translated from MusicXML: is
d4d3x2 g3l a43l r8 a42u r8 | / and the result is :

  
I would have expected that the duole consists of 2 eigths instead of 2 quarters.
  
Regards,

Dieter
  
P.S. This is the corresponding MusicXML Code. A duration of 256 corresponds to a quarter note. IS it not amazing how extremely well PMX compresses the information?
  
  !--== Part: P3, Measure: 207 ==--

   measure number=207 width=271
note color=#00 default-x=15 default-y=-20
 pitch
  stepD/step
  octave3/octave
 /pitch
 duration192/duration
 instrument id=P3-I1 /
 voice1/voice
 typeeighth/type
 time-modification
  actual-notes2/actual-notes
  normal-notes3/normal-notes
  normal-typeeighth/normal-type
 /time-modification
 stemdown/stem
 staff1/staff
 notations
  tuplet type=start bracket=no number=1 default-y=-172 
placement=above /
 /notations
/note
note color=#00 default-x=60 default-y=-20
 pitch
  stepG/step
  octave3/octave
 /pitch
 duration192/duration
 instrument id=P3-I1 /
 voice1/voice
 typeeighth/type
 time-modification
  actual-notes2/actual-notes
  normal-notes3/normal-notes
  normal-typeeighth/normal-type
 /time-modification
 stemdown/stem
 staff1/staff
 notations
  tuplet type=stop bracket=no number=1 default-y=-172 
placement=above /
 /notations
/note
note color=#00 default-x=109 default-y=-35
 pitch
  stepA/step
  octave3/octave
 /pitch
 duration256/duration
 instrument id=P3-I1 /
 voice1/voice
 typequarter/type
 stemdown/stem
 staff1/staff
/note
note default-x=151
 rest /
 duration128/duration
 instrument id=P3-I1 /
 voice1/voice
 typeeighth/type
 staff1/staff
/note
note color=#00 default-x=181
 pitch
  stepA/step
  octave2/octave
 /pitch
 duration256/duration
 instrument id=P3-I1 /
 voice1/voice
 typequarter/type
 stemup/stem
 staff1/staff
/note
note default-x=241
 rest /
 duration128/duration
 instrument id=P3-I1 /
 voice1/voice
 typeeighth/type
 staff1/staff
/note
   /measure
  
  



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[Tex-music] Fine tuning of staff distance in PMX

[Dieter]

Hi PMXperts,

if you have time, please have a look at the attachment, which I produced 
with PMX and MusixLyr.
It doesnot look too bad, but I would like to put a bit more space 
between staves for the verses
and less space, when there are no verses, and hopefully preserve the 
two-page layout.


Thanks and regards,
Dieter



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Re: [Tex-music] Fine tuning of staff distance in PMX

[Dieter]

Thanks toall for their proposals. I am using plain PMX with the Ae Option.

I will do some experimentation along your lines.

I also tried to make two instruments instead of four (essentially two 
pianos) .

But then the verses always appeared below the bass line.

Regards DIeter



Am 09.02.2015 um 06:09 schrieb Don Simons:

Andre and Dirk's suggestions will probably work. But before I installed the
Ae option in PMX, whenever I tried these sorts of adjustments I would very
often have problems with systems spilling over onto an extra page. I wanted
Dieter to send me his source, first to confirm my suspicion that he had in
fact not used M-Tx, and second, to demonstrate how to use Ae and then make
the kinds of adjustments he wants by using \spread. Ae has the advantage
that no matter what you do to vertical spacing within a page, page breaks
will always be where you want them, and no systems will ever spill over onto
an extra page.

--Don Simons


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From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Andre
Van Ryckeghem
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 8:30 PM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Fine tuning of staff distance in PMX

I suppose you use 4 instruments

You may change the space between the staffs by using ie.
AI.8

Then the space above instrument 1 and 3 must be larger:
\\setinterinstrument1{5\Interligne}\
\\setinterinstrument3{5\Interligne}\
You may try to make space above intrument 2 smaller(negatieve number is
possible):
\\setinterinstrument2{0\Interligne}\

Propably you need to change the place of the lyrics (the number can be
negative either)ie.
\setsongraise2{1\Interligne}\

Perhaps you also may use
\\songtop4\songbottom1\
or
\\songtop4\songbottom3\songtop2\songbottom1\

Preserving the page layout:
Above the start of the music:
\\vskip-2\Interligne\%less space between componist and first staff

or/and use staff size 16

or/and make the page higher:
w270m

Andre

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Dieter
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 7:05 PM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: [Tex-music] Fine tuning of staff distance in PMX

Hi PMXperts,

if you have time, please have a look at the attachment, which I produced
with PMX and MusixLyr.
It doesnot look too bad, but I would like to put a bit more space between
staves for the verses and less space, when there are no verses, and
hopefully preserve the two-page layout.

Thanks and regards,
Dieter







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\input musixtex
\input pmx
\input musixlyr
\setlyrics{chor11}{\llap{1. }Im k\{u}h-len Mai-en tun  sich all Ding 
er-freu-en, 
die Bl\{u}m-lein auf dem Feld, sich auch ver-neu-en, sich auch ver-neu-en. 
Sin-gen die Maid-lein in ih-ren Rei-hen, sin-gen die Maid-lein in ih-ren 
Rei-hen:}

\setlyrics{chor12}{\llap{2. }Wem nun dies Le-ben tut wohl-ge-fal-len e-ben, der 
soll sich ohn Ver-zug
der Lieb er-ge-ben, der Lieb er-ge-ben. Und mit den Maid_-lein singen im 
Rei-hen 
und mit den Maid_-lein singen im Rei-hen}

\setlyrics{ref1}{Will-kom-men, Mai-en, Will-kom-men, Mai-en, Will-kom-men, 
Mai-en!}
%
\setlyrics{chor21}{\llap{1. }Im k\{u}h-len Mai-en tun  sich all Ding 
er-freu-en, 
die Bl\{u}m-lein auf dem Feld, sich auch ver-neu-en, sich auch ver-neu-en. 
Sin-gen die Maid-lein in ih-ren Rei-hen, sin-gen die Maid-lein in ih-ren 
Rei-hen:}
%
\setlyrics{chor22}{\llap{2. }Wem nun dies Le-ben tut wohl-ge-fal-len e-ben, der 
soll sich ohn Ver-zug
der Lieb er-ge-ben, der Lieb er-ge-ben. Und mit den Maid_-lein singen im 
Rei-hen 
und mit den Maid_-lein singen im Rei-hen}
%
\setlyrics{ref2}{Will-kom-men, Mai-en, Will-kom-men, Mai-en, Will-kom-men, 
Mai-en!}
%
%\lyrraise1{b -3\Interligne}
\assignlyrics2{chor21,chor22}
\assignlyrics4{chor11,chor12}
\let\BM\beginmel
\let\EM\endmel
\sepbarrules
\leftlyrtrue
---
% Im kühlen Maien
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
4   4  44   0   6
% npickup nkeys
 0.00   +1
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
 2   6   200.08
B/T 2
S/A 2
B/T 1
S/A 1
btbt
.\
%\\setclef2{\treble}\settrebleclefsymbol{2}\treblelowoct\
%Ti
%Piano
% Body
% Header
Tc
Hans Leo Hassler (1564-1612)
Tt
Im k\{u}hlen Maien (zweich\{o}rig)
%h
%uuu ( 1/2 = 76 )
AbeprI1.0
It100ipipipipi
%\\def\octnumber{8$^{va}$}\
% space before first note of bar
% big accidentals
% equalizes interstaff spacing
% type K slurs 
%\\setclef3{\treble}\settrebleclefsymbol{3}\treblelowoct\
% Bars 1-3
% Chor2
r0+1 | r2+1 r4+1 g43 | e c d2 | //
r0b | r2b r4b b43 | b c a2

Re: [Tex-music] Lyrics and Chord Symbols

[Dieter]

Hi Simon,

although your problem seems to be solved, I wonder why nobody mentioned 
the possibility to directly use MusiXLyr (from Rainer Dunker) together 
with PMX.

Sample included.

Regards, Dieter

Am 12.01.2015 um 20:52 schrieb Simon Dreher:

Hi Simon,


after searching the WIMA for several days I
understood so far, that the proper way of
typesetting music including lyrics is using M-Tx.
I did not find a way to add chord symbols
to my sheet of music via M-Tx so far.

M-Tx is quite convenient for music with lyrics - but it is also not too
difficult to do the same stuff directly in pmx. You can just take a
piece written in M-Tx, compile it to pmx and see the few lines defining
the lyrics part (with musixlyr definitions - it is quite easy to learn
from the pmx file), if you already know and like pmx.


Is it possible to do so by M-Tx or do I have to
write my music and lyrics in M-Tx, compile the
*.mtx-file to *.pmx and add the chords
by hand into the *.pmx-file (i.e. using pmxchord)?

Usually, you can use any pmx commands in M-Tx files - nearly all
commands that M-Tx doesn't understand are just passed to pmx. I like the
header parts and the lyrics definitions of M-Tx more than the ones of
pmx :-) But it's just a matter of taste...

Best regards,
Simon
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\input musixtex
\input pmx
\input musixlyr
\setlyrics{sopran}{A-ve_ a_-ve ve_-rum_ cor_-pus na-tum de Ma-ri-a vir_-gi-ne 
ve-re pas_-sum im_-mo-la_-tum  in cru__-ce
 pro ho_-mi-ne cu-ius la_-tus per_-fo_-ra_-tum un-da flu_-xit et san__-gui-ne 
es-to no_-bis_ prae-gus-ta_-tum
in mor__-tis e-xa-mi_-ne in mor_-tis e-xa-mi_-ne }
---
% In the Mood
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
  3  2  4   4   0  5
% npickup nkeys
   0 +2
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
 2  8  16 0.12
Piano
Gesang
btt
.\
% Body
% Header
Tc
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Tt
Ave verum corpus
%h

AbepI0.9
% Bars 1-3
\\\assignlyrics2{sopran}\
r0 | r0 |  d23 d | /
d44 a d e | d zf a- zd d zf e zg | a2- zf+ za a- zf+ | / 
r0 | r0 |  a24 d4 f- | /
% Bars 4-6
d2 d | c c | d d | /
b2- ze b ze | a- a | a a | //
e2 e | e4 g f e | e d d2 | /
a4 gs g2n | g4 b a g | g f f2 | /
% Bars 7-9
a2 a4 a | d d c c | d2d d4 | /
a2 a4 a | a a a a | a2d a4 | //
c2 c4 c | d d e e | e2 d4 d | /
e2 e4 e | f f g g | g2 f4 f | /
% Bars 10-12
a0 | a2d+ a4 | a b b2 | /
a0 | c2d c4 | c d d2 | //
c0 | e2d e4 | e2 e2e | /
e0 | e2d a4 | a gs g2 | /
% Bars 13-15
g2s e2 |  e4s f f2 | r2 b2- | /
b2 t0 ze t1 b4 t0 ze t1 d zgs | d4 zgs c- za+ c2- za+ | r2 d2- zgs | /
e4 g2s b4 | b a a a | d0 t |  /
% Bars 16-18
c2 d4 d | e2 t e4 t e | a0- | /
e2 za d4- zf c zf | b2- t0 ze t1 b4 t0 ze t1 b ze | c0 ze | /
d4 t c b a | a2 g4s g | a0 | / 
% Bars 19-21
a2d+ a4 | a gnc g2 | c2dn- c4 | /
c2d  c4  | c2  c4  cn  | c4n bf a g | //
e2d e4 | e2 e4 t e t | e2 t e4 t e | /
a2d a4 | a bf b2 | b4f d cn b | /
% Bars 22-24
cn fn f2 | f2dn f4 | e d csc a | /
g4 ze+ a- zfn+ a2- zf+ | b2d zd b4 zd  csc ze d zfn a- ze c ze | /
bf a a2 | g2d g4 | g bf a g | /
% Bars 25-27
b2f a4 gs | a2 r2 | r0 | /
c2 ze d8 zfn c ze b4 zd zf | c2 ze r2 | d2d d4 | /
g2 f8n e f4 | e2 r2 | f2dsc f4 | / 
% Bars 28-30
g2d+ zb g4 zb | g4 zb f za e zg a zc | a2d zc a4 zc | /
d4 c b e | e2d e4 | e d c f | /
f4 e d g | g2d g4 | g f e a |  /
% Bars 31-33
a4 zc g zb f za b zd | b2 a4 gs | a2 a2- | /
f2d f4 | d2 d4 d | a2d a4 | //
r0b | f4 g f er | d2 zf c4d ze d8 zf | /
a0 t | a4 t g a b | f2 e4d f8 | /
% Bars 34-36
b2 r2 | r2 a+ | bf a | /
g2 zd+ zg r2 | r2 c2n- zfsc | d2 zg cn- zfsc | /
g2 g | d0+ t | d2 t ds | /
% Bars 37-40
g0s | g2nc f4 b- | a2 a4 a | d0- | /
b4- d c b | a2d g4 | a2 g | f0 | //
e2 e2 | e4 d8 c d4 d zg | d2 zf c ze | a0- zd | /
e4 b c dnc | c b8 a d4 g- | f2 e4d e8 | d0 | /


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Re: [Tex-music] Lyrics and Chord Symbols

[Dieter]

Sorry, in my previous mail I picked up some older version of Ave 
verum.pmx.


You can now try to sing this one.

MusixLyr has been originally developed for MusixTex.
The fact that it works seamlessly with PMX shows how well Rainer and Don 
have crafted their software.


Have a look at Rainer's documentation. It is a pleasure to read.

Regards,
Dieter

Am 14.01.2015 um 17:41 schrieb Bodo Meissner:

Zitat von Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com:


But I will mention that the last note came out with lyrics ???. I'm
guessing that for some reason my setup thinks there are one too few
syllables in the text. Can anyone else reproduce this behavior?


Dieter's attached PDF file has the same ???, so it seems to be a 
problem in the PMX source.
I guess there is a missing '_' in the lyrics or something wrong with 
the notes (missing tie?) at na-tum. Compare with
http://imslp.org/wiki/Ave_verum_corpus,_K.618_%28Mozart,_Wolfgang_Amadeus%29 




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\input musixtex
\input pmx
\input musixlyr
\setlyrics{sopran}{A-ve_ a_-ve ve_-rum_ cor_-pus na-tum de Ma-ri-a vir_-gi-ne 
ve-re pas_-sum im_-mo-la_-tum  in cru__-ce
 pro ho_-mi-ne cu-ius la_-tus per_-fo_-ra_-tum un-da flu_-xit et san__-gui-ne 
es-to no_-bis_ prae-gus-ta_-tum
in mor__-tis e-xa-mi_-ne in mor_-tis e-xa_-mi-ne }
---
% In the Mood
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
  3  2  4   4   0  5
% npickup nkeys
   0 +2
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
 2  8  16 0.12
Piano
Gesang
btt
.\
% Body
% Header
Tc
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Tt
Ave verum corpus
%h

AbepI0.9
% Bars 1-3
\\\assignlyrics2{sopran}\
r0 | r0 |  d23 d | /
d44 a d e | d zf a- zd d zf e zg | a2- zf+ za a- zf+ | / 
r0 | r0 |  a24 d4 f- | /
% Bars 4-6
d2 d | c c | d d | /
b2- ze b ze | a- a | a a | //
e2 e | e4 g f e | e d d2 | /
a4 gs g2n | g4 b a g | g f f2 | /
% Bars 7-9
a2d a4 | d d c c | d2d d4 | /
a2d a4 | a a a a | a2d a4 | //
c2d c4 | d d e e | e2 d4 d | /
e2d e4 | f f g g | g2 f4 f | /
% Bars 10-12
a0 | a2d+ a4 | a b b2 | /
a0 | c2d c4 | c d d2 | //
c0 | e2d e4 | e2 e2e | /
e0 | e2d a4 | a gs g2 | /
% Bars 13-15
g2s e2 |  e4s f f2 | r2 b2- | /
b2 t0 ze t1 b4 t0 ze t1 d zgs | d4 zgs c- za+ c2- za+ | r2 d2- zgs | /
e4 g2s b4 | b a a a | d0 t |  /
% Bars 16-18
c2 d4 d | e2 t e4 t e | a0- | /
e2 za d4- zf c zf | b2- t0 ze t1 b4 t0 ze t1 b ze | c0 ze | /
d4 t c b a | a2 g4s g | a0 | / 
% Bars 19-21
a2d+ a4 | a gnc g2 | c2dn- c4 | /
c2d  c4  | c2  c4  cn  | c4n bf a g | //
e2d e4 | e2 e4 t e t | e2 t e4 t e | /
a2d a4 | a bf b2 | b4f d cn b | /
% Bars 22-24
cn fn f2 | f2dn f4 | e d csc a | /
g4 ze+ a- zfn+ a2- zf+ | b2d zd b4 zd  csc ze d zfn a- ze c ze | /
bf a a2 | g2d g4 | g bf a g | /
% Bars 25-27
b2f a4 gs | a2 r2 | r0 | /
c2 ze d8 zfn c ze b4 zd zf | c2 ze r2 | d2d d4 | /
g2 f8n e f4 | e2 r2 | f2dsc f4 | / 
% Bars 28-30
g2d+ zb g4 zb | g4 zb f za e zg a zc | a2d zc a4 zc | /
d4 c b e | e2d e4 | e d c f | /
f4 e d g | g2d g4 | g f e a |  /
% Bars 31-33
a4 zc g zb f za b zd | b2 a4 gs | a2 a2- | /
f2d f4 | d2 d4 d | a2d a4 | //
r0b | f4 g f er | d2 zf c4d ze d8 zf | /
a0 t | a4 t g a b | f2 e4d f8 | /
% Bars 34-36
b2 r2 | r2 a+ | bf a | /
g2 zd+ zg r2 | r2 c2n- zfsc | d2 zg cn- zfsc | /
g2 g | d0+ t | d2 t ds | /
% Bars 37-40
g0s | g2nc f4 b- | a2 a4 a | d0- | /
b4- d c b | a2d g4 | a2 g | f0 | //
e2 e2 | e4 d8 c d4 d zg | d2 zf c ze | a0- zd | /
e4 b c dnc | c b8 a d4 g- | f2 e4d e8 | d0 | /


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Re: [Tex-music] Lyrics and Chord Symbols

[Dieter]

You are right. The problem is with the input. I goofed something up in 
the melismas. I will correct it.


Regards, Dieter

Am 14.01.2015 um 17:41 schrieb Bodo Meissner:

Zitat von Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com:


But I will mention that the last note came out with lyrics ???. I'm
guessing that for some reason my setup thinks there are one too few
syllables in the text. Can anyone else reproduce this behavior?


Dieter's attached PDF file has the same ???, so it seems to be a 
problem in the PMX source.
I guess there is a missing '_' in the lyrics or something wrong with 
the notes (missing tie?) at na-tum. Compare with
http://imslp.org/wiki/Ave_verum_corpus,_K.618_%28Mozart,_Wolfgang_Amadeus%29 




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[Tex-music] Damping pedal in PMX

[Dieter]

Hi all,

I am trying to set marks for the damping or better undamping pedal of a 
piano in PMX.


When I put the  \PED\ and \DEP\  macros from MusiXTeX  in different 
bars, it works. But when I try to put the two macros inside one bar, 
then I see only the first one, either p or asterisk. Does anyone have 
a clue or know a better solution, maybe with dynamical marks in PMX?


Thanks and regards,
Dieter

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Re: [Tex-music] musixlyr # musixtnt; Import of MusicXML

[Dieter]

Dear all,

I am still working on XML2PMX. It is more complex than I had thought. 
Since November 2014, when I started the endeavor, I wrote some 1500 
lines of Oberon Code.


I assure you that it works, but it is not yet in a shape for testing. 
Give me a few more weeks.


Please let me know, when you are interested in testing, then I will send 
the solution to your private email.


Dieter

Am 28.01.2015 um 18:07 schrieb Dirk Laurie:

2015-01-28 17:52 GMT+02:00 Bob Tennent r...@cs.queensu.ca:

  |You've already given us a pure LuaTeX implementation of
  |musixflx, eliminating the manual three-pass system. There's
  |a lot more possible in that direction.

Dirk: It's occurred to me that Luafying musixtex itself is
hardly the most obvious project in that direction.

No, I did not mean the whole of it. The core of MusiXTeX is
nitty-gritty typesetting and TeX is good at that.

I meant that add-ons requiring basic data processing and
computing should be written with LuaTeX in mind as the
engine. TeX is cumbersome when handling floating-point
numbers and arrays, but LuaTeX has those.


What about Luafying M-Tx or PMX? Much less challenging
and it would certainly help in packaging for TeXLive; the
existing packages are dependent on p2c and f2c respectively.

More pertinently, the existing packages are thereby dependent
on Dirk Laurie and Don Simons respectively. I'll collaborate with
anyone who wishes to undertake this task, but to so it all by
myself would miss the main point of doing it.


And did you have any success in exporting to (or was it
importing from) MusicXML?

Project not dead, but dormant.
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Re: [Tex-music] Fine tuning of staff distance in PMX

[Dieter]

Hi Don!

thanks for your advice. You are right that it looks a bit crowded with 
the 3 Systems on one page. I now put the music size to 16 and reduced 
the space for the verses a little bit

\\setinterinstrument1{5\Interligne}\
\\setinterinstrument3{5\Interligne}\
from 7 to 5, giving more space between the systems.

-- Dieter Gloetzel

Am 09.02.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Don Simons:

Dieter, thanks for posting the source file. I found that it doesn't seem
practical to have 3 systems per page unless you reduce the music size to 16.
Then with the following tweaks (thanks, Andre!) it appears to fit:

\\setinterinstrument1{7\Interligne}\
\\setinterinstrument3{7\Interligne}\
\\setsongraise2{1\Interligne}\
\\setsongraise4{1\Interligne}\

But because it still looks a bit crowded, you may want to reconsider keeping
3 systems per page. My rule of thumb is normally no more than 15 staves per
page. If you count each pair of lyrics lines as an extra staff, then you
have 18 staves, too many for size 20.

While we're on the subject of vertical spacing, I recently typeset a
wonderful Passacaglia by Georg Muffat:
http://imslp.org/wiki/Passacaglia_in_G_minor_(Muffat,_Georg)
I made two versions, one size 20 with 7 letter-size pages, and one size 16
on 3 legal size (8.5-by-14 in) sheets, with 10 2-staff systems per page.
With the second one you can set the 3 pages side-by-side and play it with no
page turns.

--Don Simons


-Original Message-
From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 1:22 AM
To: tex-music@tug.org
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Fine tuning of staff distance in PMX

Thanks toall for their proposals. I am using plain PMX with the Ae

Option.

I will do some experimentation along your lines.

I also tried to make two instruments instead of four (essentially two
pianos) .
But then the verses always appeared below the bass line.

Regards DIeter



Am 09.02.2015 um 06:09 schrieb Don Simons:

Andre and Dirk's suggestions will probably work. But before I
installed the Ae option in PMX, whenever I tried these sorts of
adjustments I would very often have problems with systems spilling
over onto an extra page. I wanted Dieter to send me his source, first
to confirm my suspicion that he had in fact not used M-Tx, and second,
to demonstrate how to use Ae and then make the kinds of adjustments he
wants by using \spread. Ae has the advantage that no matter what you
do to vertical spacing within a page, page breaks will always be where
you want them, and no systems will ever spill over onto an extra page.

--Don Simons


-Original Message-
From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of

Andre

Van Ryckeghem
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 8:30 PM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] Fine tuning of staff distance in PMX

I suppose you use 4 instruments

You may change the space between the staffs by using ie.
AI.8

Then the space above instrument 1 and 3 must be larger:
\\setinterinstrument1{5\Interligne}\
\\setinterinstrument3{5\Interligne}\
You may try to make space above intrument 2 smaller(negatieve number
is
possible):
\\setinterinstrument2{0\Interligne}\

Propably you need to change the place of the lyrics (the number can
be negative either)ie.
\setsongraise2{1\Interligne}\

Perhaps you also may use
\\songtop4\songbottom1\
or
\\songtop4\songbottom3\songtop2\songbottom1\

Preserving the page layout:
Above the start of the music:
\\vskip-2\Interligne\%less space between componist and first staff

or/and use staff size 16

or/and make the page higher:
w270m

Andre

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Dieter
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 7:05 PM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: [Tex-music] Fine tuning of staff distance in PMX

Hi PMXperts,

if you have time, please have a look at the attachment, which I
produced with PMX and MusixLyr.
It doesnot look too bad, but I would like to put a bit more space
between staves for the verses and less space, when there are no
verses, and hopefully preserve the two-page layout.

Thanks and regards,
Dieter







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Re: [Tex-music] [TeX-music] using MusiXTeX with TeXnicCenter

[Dieter]

Dear Julian,

when you are new to using MusiXTeX, why don't you have a look at PMX? 
PMX is a very comprehensive and readable input language for a program 
called PMXAB.EXE, which then generates MusixTeX input.



You will find an excellent introduction to PMX by C.C. Noack under
icking-music-archive.org/software/*pmx*/*pmx*ccn.pdf .

The creator of PMX is Don Simons and can be reached via this mailing list.

 For access to the Software please look under/
/
/http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmxab.html/ .
Regards,
D. Glötzel


Am 11.03.2015 um 13:46 schrieb Julian M:

Dear all,
I'm a new user of MusiXTeX. For few days, I've been writing very small scores, 
using the musixtex package and my usual compiler pdflatex, with no major 
problem.But then I realized that I couldn't have a proper layout for bigger 
scores,  and I learned about the existence of themusixtexcompiler (which 
embeds, if I understand well, a three steps process, etex, musixflx and etex 
again) . However, using the IDE TeXnicCenter for a long time, I don't know how 
to configure it with this compiler.I know can define output profiles, i.e., 
specifying a compiler, pre and post-processors.
Here I attached latex.png, a copy of the output profiles window, configured 
for my normal use of latex.
latex2.png is the same window but configured for musixtex. The changes are minors, 
mainly, the path to the latex compiler is different, and I don't know what to write in the box 
command line arguments to pass to the compiler. If I let the same than for pdflatex, 
here is what I get from the console when I try to build my file :
musixtex This is musixtex.lua version 0.9
musixtex Non-existent file: -max-print-line=120.tex
musixtex Non-existent file: -interaction=non-stopmode.tex
musixtex Processing myscore.tex
musixtex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6- (MiXTeX 2.9)
musixtex entering extended mode
musixtex (myscore.tex
musixtex ! Undefined control sequence.
musixtex l.1 \documentclass
musixtex   [10pt, a4paper]{article}
musixtex ? etex: Bad file descriptor
musixtex Musixtex processing of myscore.tex fails.

What I understand from this is that arguments used with pdflatex are useless with 
musixtex, and that etex in unable to read my file because some file 
descriptors are bad...I guess I simply have to change the compiler arguments, but I 
really don't know what to give him!
Does anyone can help me about this?
Thanks a lot,
Julian Moreira
musixtex Non-existent file: -max-print-line=120.tex


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Re: [Tex-music] Fwd: percussion notes with PMX and musixper

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

please find attached a simple example. The pmx generated Tex file is 
musixper_test_nodrum.tex and the
modified Tex-file is musixper_test.tex. The differences  are the input 
command for musixper.tex and a decoration of the concerned notes with 
dc after the backslash. There exists a variety of percussion fonts, 
please see in the  musixtex documentation on page 96 (section 2.23.18) .


Regards,
Dieter

Am 10.03.2015 um 15:09 schrieb Don Simons:


Hi, Dieter—

Please make a sample available, including both the PMX file and the 
altered TeX file. I will consider this, but I cannot make any promises.


I’m guessing there may be ways to do most if not everything you need 
within the PMX file, using inline TeX. I realize that’s not as slick 
as having PMX commands, but it is a lot better than having to edit the 
TeX file. So that will be the first thing I explore.


--Don Simons

*From:*TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] *On Behalf Of *Dieter
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:23 AM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive
*Subject:* [Tex-music] Fwd: percussion notes with PMX and musixper










Hi,
  
finally (after an interruption of several years ) I managed to produce

percussion notes with PMX and musixper, following an advice by Philipp Neukel.
  
This is great, but it requires to manually change the final PMX generated TeX

-version.
  
And if this version is not 100 % final, then I have to do this more than

once.
  
Would it not be beautiful to have  PMX-commands for bracketing a group

of percussion notes and  to include this information in the PMX file?
  
Maybe with such a mechanism one could give other formatting hints to a

group of notes.
  
What do you think, Don?
  
Regards,

Dieter



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% Test musixper
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
1
1
3
4
3
4
% npickup nkeys
 0
0
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
0
4
   20
 0.05
Drum
t
.\
Ti

% Body
% Header
AbepI1.0
% Av
% space before first note of bar
% big accidentals
% equalizes interstaff spacing
% type K slurs
%\\setclef2{\treble}\settrebleclefsymbol{2}\treblelowoct\
% Bars 1
g4  g8 g8 g8 g8 | /
g4  g8 g8 g8 g8 | /
g4  g8 g8 g8 g8 | /

%
%
% musixper_test.tex
%

\input musixper
\input musixtex
\input pmx
\setmaxslurs{24}\setmaxinstruments{24}%
\input musixps
\normalmusicsize%
\nopagenumbers
\tracingstats=2\relax
\hsize=524pt
\vsize740pt
\def\nbinstruments{1}
\setstaffs11
\setclef10
\setname1{Drum}
\generalsignature{ 0}%
\generalmeter{\meterfrac{3}{4}}%
\parindent 26pt
\elemskip1pt\afterruleskip1.000pt\beforeruleskip0pt\relax
\stafftopmarg0pt\staffbotmarg5\Interligne\interstaff{10}\relax
\nostartrule
\readmod{musixper_test}
\startmuflex\startpiece\addspace\afterruleskip%
\bigaccid%
\global\parskip 0pt plus 12\Interligne minus 99\Interligne%
\def\upstrut{\znotes\zcharnote{\upamt}{~}\en}%
\Nosluradjust\Notieadjust\nohalfties
\znotes\zcharnote{16}{\titles{2.0}{}{0}{}{0}{}{0}}\en%
% Bar count 1
\endeq%
\pnotes{2.83}\qu{`g}\en%
\pnotes{2.00}\ibu1b0\qb1{`g}\qb1g\qb1g\tbu1\qb1g\en%
% Bar count 2
\xbar
\pnotes{2.83}\dcqu{`g}\en%
\pnotes{2.00}\ibu1b0\dcqb1{`g}\dcqb1g\dcqb1g\tbu1\dcqb1g\en%
% Bar count 3
\xbar
\pnotes{2.83}\qu{`g}\en%
\pnotes{2.00}\ibu1b0\qb1{`g}\qb1g\qb1g\tbu1\qb1g\en%
\Endpiece
\vfill\eject\endmuflex
\bye


musixper_test.ps
Description: PostScript document
%
%
% musixper_test_nodrum.tex
%

\input musixtex
\input pmx
\setmaxslurs{24}\setmaxinstruments{24}%
\input musixps
\normalmusicsize%
\nopagenumbers
\tracingstats=2\relax
\hsize=524pt
\vsize740pt
\def\nbinstruments{1}
\setstaffs11
\setclef10
\setname1{Drum}
\generalsignature{ 0}%
\generalmeter{\meterfrac{3}{4}}%
\parindent 26pt
\elemskip1pt\afterruleskip1.000pt\beforeruleskip0pt\relax
\stafftopmarg0pt\staffbotmarg5\Interligne\interstaff{10}\relax
\nostartrule
\readmod{musixper_test_nodrum}
\startmuflex\startpiece\addspace\afterruleskip%
\bigaccid%
\global\parskip 0pt plus 12\Interligne minus 99\Interligne%
\def\upstrut{\znotes\zcharnote{\upamt}{~}\en}%
\Nosluradjust\Notieadjust\nohalfties
\znotes\zcharnote{16}{\titles{2.0}{}{0}{}{0}{}{0}}\en%
% Bar count 1
\endeq%
\pnotes{2.83}\qu{`g}\en%
\pnotes{2.00}\ibu1b0\qb1{`g}\qb1g\qb1g\tbu1\qb1g\en%
% Bar count 2
\xbar
\pnotes{2.83}\qu{`g}\en%
\pnotes{2.00}\ibu1b0\qb1{`g}\qb1g\qb1g\tbu1\qb1g\en%
% Bar count 3
\xbar
\pnotes{2.83}\qu{`g}\en%
\pnotes{2.00}\ibu1b0\qb1{`g}\qb1g\qb1g\tbu1\qb1g\en%
\Endpiece
\vfill\eject\endmuflex
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[Tex-music] Fwd: percussion notes with PMX and musixper

[Dieter]

Hi,

finally (after an interruption of several years ) I managed to produce
percussion notes with PMX and musixper, following an advice by Philipp Neukel.

This is great, but it requires to manually change the final PMX generated TeX
-version.

And if this version is not 100 % final, then I have to do this more than
once.

Would it not be beautiful to have  PMX-commands for bracketing a group
of percussion notes and  to include this information in the PMX file?

Maybe with such a mechanism one could give other formatting hints to a
group of notes.

What do you think, Don?

Regards,
Dieter



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[Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing

[Dieter]

Dear all,

it took a bit more time  than I had expected, but now XML2PMX, a 
converter (on MS Windows)

from Recordare Inc MusicXML  to PMX is ready for testing.

MusicXML is an extremely powerful description language for musical notes.
And my objective obviously could not have been a complete implementation.
The following features have been included:

 * maximum  of 12 staves and 500 measures (easy to extend)
 * two voices per staff
 * maximum of two staves per instrument (easy to extend)
 * notes and rests up to 64th, including tuplets and grace notes,
 * maximum of 2 dots
 * chords, accidentals
 * some annotations like Fermata, staccato etc.
 * ties, slurs and beams
 * definition of meter, fifths, clefs and their changes on the fly
 * some dynamic marks: hair pins, ff etc, piano pedal
 * titles (Tc, Tt), and texts implemented with h or Dtext
 * barlines, repeats, volta
 * instrument names
 * copyright of XML file provider

These features may not function to a 100 % in all situations,
but once you have a PMX file with all of the notes, the bulk work has 
been done.

And it is easy, to improve the result on the PMX side.

@Bob Tennent: Could you give me some advice concerning, how to 
distribute the EXE-file,

and also which licencing and limited liability clauses I should apply?

What about copyright of the samples (Recordare Inc. and others)?

Should I rather not republish sample files owned by other people or 
companies and only

link to the corresponding Websites?

I will be happy to receive your feedback.

Regards
Dieter


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Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing

[Dieter]

Hi Dirk,

right now we are in beta test. I want my tool to get a bit of mileage 
(and further improve it) before I release it.


Under obe...@lists.inf.ethz.ch is a very active Oberon community 
targeting Unix as well as micro controllers.


I am sure, with their support  I will find a solution for the Unix 
version of XML2PMX.


Please test it!  You find MusicXML-sources e.g. under:
http://www.musicxml.com/music-in-musicxml/example-set/


The following pieces (and a few more) have been tested:

- Schubert: Ave Maria (Ellen’s Gesang III), D. 839

- Beethoven: An die ferne Geliebte, Op. 98

Regards Dieter

Am 03.07.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Dirk Laurie:

2015-07-02 22:28 GMT+02:00 Bob Tennent r...@cs.queensu.ca:

  | it took a bit more time than I had expected, but now
  | XML2PMX, a converter (on MS Windows) from Recordare Inc
  | MusicXML to PMX is ready for testing.
  |
  |
  |Is there a way to run the software under Linux?

The program is written in Oberon and I don't think there's
an Oberon compiler for Linux. Dieter is investigating
Oberon-to-C compilers. In the meantime, I suggest installing
VirtualBox on your Linux system and installing a guest
Windows system. Or, it may run under WINE.

Unless I missed something, Dieter has not actually released the
XML2PMX source code, so speculation about Oberon compilers
is unproductive at this stage.
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Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

thanks for your testing effort. I will look into this ASAP, but not next 
week.


I know the problem with pick ups. The treatment of pickups is not yet 
automatic in XML2PMX.


Furthermore, when I have a pickup e.g. of one quarter alone in the first 
PMX input block,

(marked like 1 1 4 4 4 4 1 0)
 then PMX seems to think that the remaining measures are also 1/4.
So in this case I have always put a blind meter change before the first 
full measure.


I did not know, that I can have an arbitrary pickup without announcing 
it in advance,

when I add a blind meter change.

Regards,
Dieter


Am 03.07.2015 um 20:37 schrieb Don Simons:

Dieter--

I downloaded the XML for the Mahler Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen:...
from the web site you referenced. xml2pmx processed it OK, but the pmx file
had various errors involving the pickup bar at the beginning, dynamic mark
commands coming before any notes in a bar, and possible a few others. Best
if you download the xml yourself and work through it.

Regarding the pickup bar, instead of using PMX's pickup facilities, you may
want to consider putting the pickup into a separate bar, then changing the
meter at the first full bar. For example with a quarter note pickup to a
whole note in 4/4, instead of

1 1 4 4 4 4 1 0
...
g44 c0 /

you could do

1 1 1 4 4 4 0 0
...
g44 /
m4400
c05 /

If you ever were to activate new movements in xml2pmx, you'd find that the
PMX pickup mechanism doesn't work at the start of a new movement, but the
scheme I just described is a viable alternative, naturally using the m
command to set the initial meter in the new movement, just as you normally
would to set any meter at the start of a new movement.

--Don Simons


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Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 7:21 AM
To: tex-music@tug.org
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing

Hi Dirk,

right now we are in beta test. I want my tool to get a bit of mileage (and
further improve it) before I release it.

Under obe...@lists.inf.ethz.ch is a very active Oberon community
targeting Unix as well as micro controllers.

I am sure, with their support  I will find a solution for the Unix version

of

XML2PMX.

Please test it!  You find MusicXML-sources e.g. under:   
http://www.musicxml.com/music-in-musicxml/example-set/

The following pieces (and a few more) have been tested:

  - Schubert: Ave Maria (Ellen’s Gesang III), D. 839

  - Beethoven: An die ferne Geliebte, Op. 98

Regards Dieter

Am 03.07.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Dirk Laurie:

2015-07-02 22:28 GMT+02:00 Bob Tennent r...@cs.queensu.ca:

   | it took a bit more time than I had expected, but now
   | XML2PMX, a converter (on MS Windows) from Recordare Inc
   | MusicXML to PMX is ready for testing.
   |
   |
   |Is there a way to run the software under Linux?

The program is written in Oberon and I don't think there's an Oberon
compiler for Linux. Dieter is investigating Oberon-to-C compilers. In
the meantime, I suggest installing VirtualBox on your Linux system
and installing a guest Windows system. Or, it may run under WINE.

Unless I missed something, Dieter has not actually released the
XML2PMX source code, so speculation about Oberon compilers is
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Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing

[Dieter]

Hi Luigi,

Bob proposed to translate my little utility into C and then run it on Unix.

There are several C translators for Oberon on the market, but I do not 
know enough C to do it myself.


I will ask the people from the Oberon mailing list 
obe...@lists.inf.ethz.ch for advice.


The other option would be to run my Oberon Code on UNIX and then make a 
UNIX executable.


But again this is no safe ground for me.

Thanks for your interest!

Dieter

Am 02.07.2015 um 22:08 schrieb Luigi Cataldi:

On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 15:24:56 +0200
Dieter d.gloet...@web.de wrote:


Dear all,

it took a bit more time  than I had expected, but now XML2PMX, a
converter (on MS Windows)
from Recordare Inc MusicXML  to PMX is ready for testing.


Is there a way to run the software under Linux?

Regards

Luigi





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[Tex-music] PMX: horizontal shift of a tie

[Dieter]

Dear PMXperts,

when you look at the second bar of the example, you see the two d-notes 
shifted left with the e-command

in order to avoid collision with the c-notes.

But the tie does not move correspondingly. I tried the s-Option on the 
tie, but without effect.


Regards,
Dieter



shift-tie.ps
Description: PostScript document
%?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=no?
%!DOCTYPE score-partwisePUBLIC -//Recordare//DTD MusicXML 1.0 
Partwise//ENhttp://www.musicxml.org/dtds/partwise.dtd;
%
%
% 
%Software : SharpEye Music Reader 2
%Part P1 : 
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 
 0 4 20 0.07

bt
./
Tt

Tc

Abep

% Part, staff, voice( 1| 2| 5), Bar 20
 [u f82nu f83u f82u f83u ] [u f82u f83u f82u f83u ] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1| 1| 1), Bar 20
 c25u za4 zf4n r2 | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1| 2| 5), Bar 21
 c43u r4 r2 | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1| 1| 2), Bar 21
 c4d5l zg4 {3 c85l {4 zg4 c45l }3 zg4 }4 g4 zc5 | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1| 1| 1), Bar 21
 e45u [u e85u {1us+5-5 d85ue ] [u d85ue }1 c85u ] e45u | /
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Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing

[Dieter]

Hallo Andreas,

Schick es doch an meine Adresse d.gloet...@web.de.

Das machen wir jetzt mal auf dem kleinen Dienstweg.

Gruß Dieter

Am 03.08.2015 um 10:40 schrieb Sesterhenn, Andreas:

Hallo Dieter

Shall I send the zipped file to this (tex-music) address or do you prefer 
another one (if so we may also switch to German if you like)

Andreas

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Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 10:26 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing

Hi Andreas,

I am happy that you try using my utility. It is not yet very much error 
tolerant, as you see. I am working on this.
The problem could be that the filename and path of the input XML-file does not 
exist or that the bracketing doublequotes around the filename are missing.
Please send me your XML file in order to check it.

Thanks Dieter



Am 31.07.2015 um 17:58 schrieb Sesterhenn, Andreas:

Hi there,

Because I am more into lillypond and mtx/pmx/musixtex I wanted to impress my 
daughter who prepares her musical notes with Sibelius 7.5.

She gave me a file which is an musicxml 3.0 export from her last work
(don't know exact sizes)

I tried to process this file with XML2PMX you referred to in admin
mode ... simple crash, no further comment (or is there a hidden log-file?) I only 
received a window telling me XML2PMX.exe funktioniert nicht mehr (German ... 
it doesn't work any more) and I can only hit the close button.

If there is someone willing to test / debug -- the file is 1.6 Mbyte in 
uncompressed size 58KB in zipped format.

Thank you

Andreas



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Tennent
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 6:28 PM
To: tex-music@tug.org
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing

   |It seems, I forgot to give the link to the Windows-Exe and linux binary  
|of XML2PMX.
   |
   |Here it is
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/index.html

Or, more directly,

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/xml2pmx/XML2PMX.zip

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Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing; test is stopped

[Dieter]

Hi Bob,

I got some interesting feedback from the test. Now I am working on new 
features and also on making the tool  more robust.


Therefore we can stop the test. Could you then please erase the present 
version of XML2PMX from the WIMA page.


Thanks to all testers!

Regards Dieter


Am 26.07.2015 um 18:28 schrieb Bob Tennent:

  |It seems, I forgot to give the link to the Windows-Exe and linux binary
  |of XML2PMX.
  |
  |Here it is http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/index.html

Or, more directly,

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/xml2pmx/XML2PMX.zip

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Re: [Tex-music] PMX: horizontal shift of a tie

[Dieter]

Thanks,Don!

always helpful, exhaustive and timely.

Regards,
Dieter
Am 13.08.2015 um 17:02 schrieb Don Simons:

The s option on the tie only applies to line-breaking ties. It is ignored rather than 
generating an error, because subsequent editing could change a line-breaking tie to a 
mid-line one and vice versa. The minimal adjustment to your syntax to make it work would 
be to remove the s, and put the correct offsets both at the start and end of 
the tie:

e45u [u e85u {1u+0-1 d85ue ] [u d85ue }1+0-1 c85u ] e45u | /

However, the 1 is not necessary since there are no other ties in the same voice at that 
time, and the u is not necessary since by default ties on the upper voice in a 2-voice 
system are upper ties, so the following also works:

e45u [u e85u {+0-1 d85ue ] [u d85ue }+0-1 c85u ] e45u | /

--Don Simons


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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:50 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive tex-music@tug.org
Subject: [Tex-music] PMX: horizontal shift of a tie

Dear PMXperts,

when you look at the second bar of the example, you see the two d-notes
shifted left with the e-command in order to avoid collision with the c-
notes.

But the tie does not move correspondingly. I tried the s-Option on the tie,
but without effect.

Regards,
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Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing

[Dieter]

Hi--
It seems, I forgot to give the link to the Windows-Exe and linux binary
of XML2PMX.

Here it is http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/index.html

--Dieter

Am 03.07.2015 um 17:02 schrieb Dirk Laurie:

2015-07-03 16:20 GMT+02:00 Dieter d.gloet...@web.de:


right now we are in beta test. I want my tool to get a bit of mileage (and
further improve it) before I release it.

Under obe...@lists.inf.ethz.ch is a very active Oberon community targeting
Unix as well as micro controllers.

I am sure, with their support  I will find a solution for the Unix version
of XML2PMX.

Please test it!  You find MusicXML-sources e.g. under:   
http://www.musicxml.com/music-in-musicxml/example-set/

I would gladly help with testing, if I could do so by typing in a command
line on my Ubuntu 14.04 machine such as xml2pmx myfile.xml. That
is at present out of reach.

I would also gladly help with making a port to Lua.
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Re: [Tex-music] Error processing pmx file

[Dieter]

Hi Rodolfo and Don,

I performed some tests on Windows. I find the same behaviour as Don.
In the end all 15 Clementi pieces compile properly, when you remove the 
ending pi.


In waltzafm.pmx I find the same stumble stone as Rodolfo.

It138i2:2.

When I remove the ending :2 it runs until the next line

\\input mywaltzafm \ and since mywaltzafm.tex is not included it crashes.

Maybe André Van Ryckeghem could provide the missing file.

However walzamin.pmx (Chopin a-moll Waltz) which at start had the same midi 
problem then compiles correctly.

Regards,
Dieter


Am 25.07.2015 um 11:44 schrieb Rodolfo Medina:

Don Simonsdsim...@roadrunner.com  writes:


Rodolfo--

That's not a very good advertisement for PMX, is it? And the fact that I use
Windows version isn't going to make it easier for me to help. But I'll try. I
cannot reproduce your error. but I get a different one. When I look at the
file the format looks OK at line 37. My error occurs at line 41:

ERROR in line 41, bar 1 Expected a number here for the pause

v

It176ipipi

^

The text is misleading; this error is really due to a change in the syntax
for the suboption i of the midi-generation command I, which is outlined
on p.28 of the manual pmx270:  The number of arguments following suboption
i, as well as the next three described suboptions, must in fact equal the
number of instruments. Before version 2.7, it was the number of staves...

I'm attaching cl361b.pmx where I fixed this problem (by deleting the last
“pi”). I confirmed that it compiles and am hoping it does for you. If not,
please include the complete error message you get, including the lines
following the error description, which will confirm exactly which line, and
which position in that line, your version of PMX thinks the error is in.

--Don

Thanks indeed, all of you.  The correction you made works fine for me.
Unfortunately, similar errors are produced also with the other files from
Clementi sonatinas, and also with Chopin waltzes.  With Clementi I tried with
no success to delete the last `pi' similarly as you did, whereas processing
waltzafm.pmx produces:

---
  This is PMX, Version 2.7  , 3 Apr 13
  Opening waltzafm.pmx

  Starting first PMX pass


  ERROR in line 61, bar 0 Illegal character in MIDI input data
  v
  It138i2:2
  ^
May be too many args to i,v,b, or T. As of Ver. 2.7, should be noinst, not nv
---

It's a pity, because really the process pmx - tex is useful for what I want...
Neither do I have the knowledge now to do myself the corrections.  And we're
probably talking of quite a lot of files to re-edit.

Thanks,

Rodolfo

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Re: [Tex-music] musix-tex sources repositories?

[Dieter]

Hi Rodolfo,

I join in on the recommendations of Don. You will be much, much faster 
with PMX than with plain MusixTeX,
The best introduction to PMX is the tutorial 
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmxccn.pdf


Once you have got some experience with PMX, you might also be interested 
in XML2PMX, a converter
from MusicXML (Recordare Inc.) to PMX. There is a lot of notes in 
XML-format around in the net.
XML2PMX is right now in beta test. You find it here: 
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/index.html


Dieter Gloetzel

Am 23.07.2015 um 06:39 schrieb Don Simons:

Rodolfo--

I don't think you're going to find an archive specifically for MusiXTeX
sources. There are some scattered through IMSLP.

But since you plan to keep on typesetting and already have MusiXTeX working,
let me suggest that it would be easy for you to give PMX a try. It is a
preprocessor for MusiXTeX which uses a MUCH simpler input language than TeX.
And in case there are things you want to do that are not built into PMX, you
can easily include TeX commands in the PMX source. (That would apply to your
fingering numbers). For example, leaving out the fingerings for this demo,
here's the fully functional PMX source for the first system of your Bach
piece:


2 1 3 4 3 4 0 1
1 1 20 0

bt
.\
Abep
g23 g8 s a | bd2 s | cd s | bd s | ad s /
d45 o. g-8 s a b c | d4 o. s g- o. g o. | e+ o. c8 s d e f | g4 o. s g- o. g
o. | c o. d8 s c b a /


If you have any questions or problems with PMX, there are lots of people on
this mailing list who are happy to help.

--Don Simons


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Medina
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:50 AM
To: tex-music@tug.org
Subject: [Tex-music] musix-tex sources repositories?

Dear all tex-musix users,

first of all, it is a real luck that such a software exists, thanks to its

author...

and happily I feel to be part of the community.

I've sometimes downloaded classical music scores in PDF format from

  http://imslp.org

, a great repository.  Now, I wish there was something similar - not so

big, of

course -, anyway a repository of tex-musix source files.  The one at CTAN:

  https://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/musixtex/doc/examples

is much too poor.  In other words, what I'm searching for is a sharing of

tex-

musix source files among its users.  I've written in musix-tex language a
menuet by J. S. Bach that I'm attaching.  I'm now working at Bach's three
voice invention in C major, and a lot of other piano works I intend to

write in

future: so I was wondering if this job could be shortened down in the case
someone else has already partly done it.  The reason for which I need that

is

having my sheet music in digital format with the possibility of changing

at my

pleasure the fingering (and the `pizzicato' and `legato' indications).

Another

way to achieve that purpose would certainly be to use a scanner, but...

much

less comfortable, of course.

Thanks very much for any help,

Regards,

Rodolfo Medina


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Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX is ready for testing

[Dieter]

Dear all,

my Oberon program has been tested today on Linux and runs without any 
change.


We are now working on the Linux-Binary.

I will keep you informed.

Dieter

Am 02.07.2015 um 22:08 schrieb Luigi Cataldi:

On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 15:24:56 +0200
Dieter d.gloet...@web.de wrote:


Dear all,

it took a bit more time  than I had expected, but now XML2PMX, a
converter (on MS Windows)
from Recordare Inc MusicXML  to PMX is ready for testing.


Is there a way to run the software under Linux?

Regards

Luigi





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[Tex-music] MusicXML to PMX converter: xml2pmx binary for linux

[Dieter]

Dear all,

xml2pmx is now available as linux binary.

Support of the Oberon Linux Revival group and in particular of Peter 
Matthias is gratefully acknowledged.


I am still working on a few limitations of the tool. Once they are 
resolved and I have dealt with your feedback,

I will publish the program under GPL.

Happy testing on Windows and on linux!

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Re: [Tex-music] MusicXML to PMX converter: xml2pmx binary for linux

[Dieter]

Hallo Christof,

sorry, I forgot to mention the download site.

You will find it here: 
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/htdocs/index.html


Regards Dieter


Am 21.07.2015 um 11:24 schrieb Christof Hesse:

Dieter,
wo kann ich das Programm herbekommen? Auch Quellcode geht.
Grüße Christof
*Gesendet:* Dienstag, 21. Juli 2015 um 09:53 Uhr
*Von:* Dieter d.gloet...@web.de
*An:* Werner Icking Music Archive tex-music@tug.org
*Betreff:* [Tex-music] MusicXML to PMX converter: xml2pmx binary for linux
Dear all,

xml2pmx is now available as linux binary.

Support of the Oberon Linux Revival group and in particular of Peter
Matthias is gratefully acknowledged.

I am still working on a few limitations of the tool. Once they are
resolved and I have dealt with your feedback,
I will publish the program under GPL.

Happy testing on Windows and on linux!

Dieter




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[Tex-music] Metronomic indications in PMX

[Dieter]

Hi,

I am trying to put a metronomic indication like "\metron{\qup}{60}" into 
my PMX file.


It produces the sign I want, but it modifies  the font.

Please see attached example.

Regards,
Dieter


---
\input musixtex
\input pmx
\input musixlyr
\setlyrics{sopran}{Uh_ Uh__ Au-tumn leaves fall }
\assignlyrics4{sopran}
---
% Autumn Leaves
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
  4  4  6   8   6  8
% npickup nkeys
   0  +1
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
  0  2   16 0.12
Bass
Tenor
Alt
Sopran
bttt
.\
% Body
% Header
Tc
Music Joseph Cosma
Tt
Autumn Leaves
h
Tristement ( \metron{\qup}{60} )
AbepI0.8
%!It90ipi
It60ipipipipi
%\\def\octnumber{8$^{va}$}\ 
\\setclef2{\treble}\settrebleclefsymbol{2}\treblelowoct\
% a space before first note of bar
% b big accidentals
% e equalizes interstaff spacing
% p type K slurs
% Bars 1-7
r2d | r2d | ( g43d ed t | ed t dsd ) | d8n d d cs c c | cn c c b4 b8 | a a a a+ 
a a | /
r2d | r2d | b44df gd | a2d | g8 f e g f e g e c a4+ a8 | c b a c b c | /
( e4d d4sd | dnd csd ) | ( c2nd | b2nd ) | b8 b b b b b | bf b e e4 d8s | e e c 
e e f | /
( e8 f g b g f | e f g b4du ) | ( e8- f g bf g e | f2d ) | e8 f g e f g | e g e 
f4 f8 | f g a f g a | /
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Re: [Tex-music] Metronomic indications in PMX

[Dieter]

Am 23.10.2015 um 14:34 schrieb Bob Tennent:

Can anyone suggest a suitable fix to the definition of
\metron?  It's currently

\def\metron#1#2{{\stemlength\f@ur\noteskip\t@n\p@ #1 1\ = #2}}

Or better examples in the manual, currently

\metron{\hup}{60}
\metron{\smallnotesize\lqu}{ca.~72}
\metron{\tinynotesize\lqu}{ca.~72}

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Unfortunately I do not understand the definition of "\metron",
but why do we need a fix? I am happy with the "\nolyr" solution.

Regards,
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[Tex-music] abbreviation for tremolo

[Dieter]

Sorry, I need further advice.

Is there a sign for tremolo like the attached one.

e.g. having the stem of a half note  crossed by three short beams in 
order to denote sixteen 32th notes.


Thanks and regards,
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[Tex-music] WIMA homepage broken link

[Dieter]

When I click on this: *Preparing PDF scores in * 
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php>


*http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php
* <http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php>

*I get : "Warning*:  require(ick-utils.inc) [function.require <http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/function.require>]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in*/home3/wima/public_html/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php*  on line*18" presumably a missing or incomplete link. Regards, Dieter *-- 
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Re: [Tex-music] WIMA homepage broken link

[Dieter]

Thanks, Christian!
Regards Dieter

Am 10.11.2015 um 19:37 schrieb Christian Mondrup:

Christian Mondrup wrote:

Dieter wrote:

When I click on this: *Preparing PDF scores in *
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php>

**
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php>*http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php 




*I get : "Warning*:  require(ick-utils.inc) [function.require
<http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/function.require>]: failed to
open stream: No such file or directory
in*/home3/wima/public_html/scores/Pdf_scores_HOWTO.php*  on line*18"
presumably a missing or incomplete link.


Der Fehler war tatsächlich eine fehlende php-Datei im Ordner. Beseitigt.
Bitte nochmal versuchen.


OOPPSS - I answered in German assuming the message to be private.

The meaning of my answer: problem fixed, please try again



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Re: [Tex-music] abbreviation for tremolo

[Dieter]

This is what I need.  But   I am not so fluent in MusiXTeX and forgot to 
tell you, that I need this feature in PMX.

Regards, Dieter



Am 10.11.2015 um 16:52 schrieb Bob Tennent:

  >|Is there a sign for tremolo like the attached one.
  >|
  >|e.g. having the stem of a half note  crossed by three short beams in
  >|order to denote sixteen 32th notes.

Look at the last example in Section 5.4 (Shorthand beam
notations for repeated notes) of musixdoc.pdf.

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Re: [Tex-music] abbreviation for tremolo

[Dieter]

Hi Bob,

I got it!
the pmx-Code is :
\loffset{0.5}{\ibbbl0k9}\roffset{0.5}{\tbl0}\ a24l | //
\loffset{0.5}{\ibbbu0f9}\roffset{0.5}{\tbu0}\ c24+u | /

Regards,
Dieter

Am 11.11.2015 um 14:15 schrieb Bob Tennent:

  >|This is what I need.  But I am not so fluent in MusiXTeX and forgot to
  >|tell you, that I need this feature in PMX.

AFAIK, there aren't PMX commands for this but Section 2.4 of
the PMX manual explains how to "in-line" TeX commands in a
PMX source file.

Bob T.

  >|Am 10.11.2015 um 16:52 schrieb Bob Tennent:
  >|>   >|Is there a sign for tremolo like the attached one.
  >|>   >|
  >|>   >|e.g. having the stem of a half note  crossed by three short beams in
  >|>   >|order to denote sixteen 32th notes.
  >|>
  >|> Look at the last example in Section 5.4 (Shorthand beam
  >|> notations for repeated notes) of musixdoc.pdf.




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Re: [Tex-music] Non-spacing rests?

[Dieter]

Don,

you are perfectly right asking for more debugging. But in this case  it 
was manual work, and I may also need some more personal debugging.
Finally you are right with the AK-option. It does an excellent job. But  
I did not directly discover its virtues, because I had started to tweak 
the rests manually with + or -.


The only effect of this is, that it annihilates the effect of "AK".

XML2PMX cannot be fully automatic because MusicXML files are normally 
neither error free nor complete.
This is particularly true for scanner export but also for export files 
from note type setting programs.
E.g. ties and slurs are never complete and also their position "l" or 
"u" is not always recognized correctly by the scanner.


Regards,
Dieter

Am 16.11.2015 um 17:48 schrieb Don Simons:

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de> writes:


Hi,

With my little tool "XML2PMX" I produced a MusiXTeX verion of the 1st
Sinfonia BWV 787. Pls. see attachments.

I scanned a good print edition, the scanner software gave me MusicXML
output, I ran it through XML2PMX and got the PMX file.

I tried to process your pmx file with pmxab, but got error:

$ pmxab test.pmx
  This is PMX, Version 2.7  , 3 Apr 13
  Opening test.pmx

  Starting first PMX pass
fmt: read unexpected character
apparent state: internal I/O
last format: (f1.0)xd
  x   g

lately reading sequential formatted internal IO Aborted rodolfo@sdb6-
pentium3:~/musica/musixtex$ pmxab test.pmx  This is PMX, Version 2.7  , 3
Apr 13
  Opening test.pmx

  Starting first PMX pass
fmt: read unexpected character
apparent state: internal I/O
last format: (f3.0)xd
7 꿚g

lately reading sequential formatted internal IO Aborted

If you are referring to sinfonia.pmx, I processed it with no problem (PMX 
2.703, 23 March 14).

I notice that in the infamous bar 11, the pmx coding contains

==
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 6), Bar 11
  f83su r8 r4  r2b | //  | //
==

I'm surprised PMX didn't choke on the repeated bar termination and voice shift commands. 
I'm guessing that's because PMX ignores everything after the first "//".  
Nevertheless, if that came from XML2PMX, some debugging may be in order.

I'll also mention again, as I did in my previous posting, that the global PMX 
option AK will give the rests in 2-voice staves the proper vertical positions.

--Don Simons

  






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sinfonia1.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
%
%http://www.musicxml.org/dtds/partwise.dtd;>
%
%
% 
%Software : SharpEye Music Reader 2
%Part P1 : 
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 
 02 10 20 0.07
Piano
bt
./
Tt
Sinfonia 1
Tc
J.S. Bach BWV 787
Abep
AK


% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 1
 c43l r8 c84l [l b83l g83l a83l b83l ] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 1
 r0 | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 1
 r1 [u g14u a14u b14u ] [u c15u d15u e15u f15u ] [u g15u f15u g15u a15u ] [u 
f15u a15u g15u f15u ] | 
/
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 2
 c44l r8 b83l [l a83l g83l a83l d83l ] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 2
r1 [l c14l d14l e14l ] [l f14l g14l a14l b14l ] [l c15l b14l c15l d15l ] [l 
c15l e15l d15l c15l ] | 
//
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 2
 {u e25u e45u } f45su | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 3
 [l g12l g13l a13l b13l ] [l c14l d14l e14l f14l ] [l g14l f14l g14l a14l ] [l 
f14l a14l g14l f14l ] 
| /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 3
 [l b84l {u d85l ] [l d85lr } {l c85l ] c45lr } {l b44l | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 3
 [u g85u f85nu ] e45u [u d85u  e15u f15u ] {u d45u | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 4
 [l e14l f14l e14l d14l ] [l c14l b13l a13l g13l ] [l f13l g13l f13l e13l ] [l 
f13l d13l e13l f13l ] 
| /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 4
 b44l } r1 [l d15l c15l b14l ] a4d4l a84l | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 4
 [u d85u } g15u f15u ] {u e45u [u e85u } e85u ] {u d45u | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 5
 [u e13u g12u a12u b12u ] [l c13l d13l e13l f13l ] [l g13l f13l g13l a13l ] [l 
f13l a13l g13l f13l ] 
| /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 5
 [l g84l f84l ] e44l {l d24l | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 5
 d4d5u } {u c85u [u c85u } b14u a14u ] [u b14u c15u d15u b14u ] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 6), Bar 6
 {l e23l e43lr } d43l | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 6
 r4b [u c14u b13u a13u g13u ] [u f13u  g13u f13u e13u ] [u f13u d13u e13u f13u 
] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 6
 [l d14l } f14l e14l d14l ] r2db | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 6
 {u g44u [u g14u } c15u d15u e15u ] [u a14u b14u a14u b14u ] [u b8d4u a34u b34u 
] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 6), Bar 7
 e43u r2db | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 7
 [l c13l d13l c13l b

Re: [Tex-music] Non-spacing rests?

[Dieter]

Hi,

With my little tool "XML2PMX" I produced a MusiXTeX verion of the 1st 
Sinfonia BWV 787. Pls. see attachments.


I scanned a good print edition, the scanner software gave me MusicXML 
output, I ran it through XML2PMX and got the PMX file.


Then I had to do a few corrections:

1. adding blind rests  (as you know, PMX does not accept incomplete
   measures)
2. sometimes the scanner software mixed up the voices
3. several rests were recognized by the scanner software as notes

In total less than 2 hours of work.

What is still missing are the vertical position of some rests and the 
ornaments.


Whether it is easier to typeset the fingering in PMX or MusixTex, I do 
not know.


Regards, Dieter

Am 14.11.2015 um 15:33 schrieb Rodolfo Medina:

Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.med...@gmail.com> writes:


Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.med...@gmail.com> writes:


Jean-Pierre Coulon <coulon...@free.fr> writes:


On Sat, 14 Nov 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote:


Now I'm typing in MusiXTeX language the first three-voices Sinfonia for
keyboard in C major by J. S. Bach [...]

What will your edition have that those present on
http://imslp.org/wiki/15_Sinfonias,_BWV_787-801_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)
don't have?  :-)

Jean-Pierre Coulon


Often, to play a piece for keyboard, you feel the need of changing the
fingering at your pleasure - or even add it when it is not there.  This is a
general problem for me, and the main reason because I'm learning using
MusiXTeX: I want to re-type all the pieces I use playing, in order to type
at my pleasure the fingering and also the pedal and also the pizzicato and
the slurs.  In most cases you have those information already printed in your
score book, and correct them by pencil can be confusing.  So it is a great
luck that something like MusiXTeX exists!

Rodolfo


I just saw at

  http://imslp.org/wiki/15_Sinfonias,_BWV_787-801_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian)

the pmw source files.  Any possibility of convertion pmw -> MusiXTeX? ;-)


Sorry, I alreay posted that question, and the answer seems to be negative.

Rodolfo
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%
%http://www.musicxml.org/dtds/partwise.dtd;>
%
%
% 
%Software : SharpEye Music Reader 2
%Part P1 : 
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 
 02 10 20 0.07
Piano
bt
./
Tt
Sinfonia 1
Tc
J.S. Bach BWV 787
Abep



% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 1
 c43l r8 c84l [l b83l g83l a83l b83l ] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 1
 r0 | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 1
 r1 [u g14u a14u b14u ] [u c15u d15u e15u f15u ] [u g15u f15u g15u a15u ] [u 
f15u a15u g15u f15u ] | 
/
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 2
 c44l r8 b83l [l a83l g83l a83l d83l ] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 2
r1 [l c14l d14l e14l ] [l f14l g14l a14l b14l ] [l c15l b14l c15l d15l ] [l 
c15l e15l d15l c15l ] | 
//
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 2
 {u e25u e45u } f45su | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 3
 [l g12l g13l a13l b13l ] [l c14l d14l e14l f14l ] [l g14l f14l g14l a14l ] [l 
f14l a14l g14l f14l ] 
| /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 3
 [l b84l {u d85l ] [l d85lr } {l c85l ] c45lr } {l b44l | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 3
 [u g85u f85nu ] e45u [u d85u  e15u f15u ] {u d45u | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 4
 [l e14l f14l e14l d14l ] [l c14l b13l a13l g13l ] [l f13l g13l f13l e13l ] [l 
f13l d13l e13l f13l ] 
| /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 4
 b44l } r1 [l d15l c15l b14l ] a4d4l a84l | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 4
 [u d85u } g15u f15u ] {u e45u [u e85u } e85u ] {u d45u | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 5
 [u e13u g12u a12u b12u ] [l c13l d13l e13l f13l ] [l g13l f13l g13l a13l ] [l 
f13l a13l g13l f13l ] 
| /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 5
 [l g84l f84l ] e44l {l d24l | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 5
 d4d5u } {u c85u [u c85u } b14u a14u ] [u b14u c15u d15u b14u ] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 6), Bar 6
 {l e23l e43lr } d43l | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 6
 r4b [u c14u b13u a13u g13u ] [u f13u  g13u f13u e13u ] [u f13u d13u e13u f13u 
] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 6
 [l d14l } f14l e14l d14l ] r2db | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 6
 {u g44u [u g14u } c15u d15u e15u ] [u a14u b14u a14u b14u ] [u b8d4u a34u b34u 
] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 6), Bar 7
 e43u r2db | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 2| 5), Bar 7
 [l c13l d13l c13l b12l ] [u a12u g12u f12su e12u ] [u d12u e13u d13u c13u ] [u 
b12u a12u g12u f12u ] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 2), Bar 7
r4b r8 e84l f44sl r1 [l c15l b14l a14l ] | //
% Part, staff, voice( 1|| 1| 1), Bar 7
 [u c85u g84u ] {u c45u [u c85u } b14u a14u ] {u d45u 

[Tex-music] Using the new Tremolo commands with PMX (MusiXTeX 1.19)

[Dieter]

Hi Bob,
the following PMX code :

% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
112424
% npickup nkeys
 00
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
04   20 0.05

t
.\
w200pt
Tt
Test tremolo
  \trrml{h}\ a24l |  \trml{h}\ a24l | //
  \trmu{j}\ c25u |  \trrmu{j}\ c25u | /
===
works fine and yields:


when I change to 4/4 beat, I get:
==
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
114444
% npickup nkeys
 00
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
04   20 0.05

t
.\
w200pt
Tt
Test tremolo

  \trrml{h}\ a24l   \trml{h}\ a24l | //
  \trmu{j}\ c25u   \trrmu{j}\ c25u | /
=


What am I doing wrong? Do I have to reset something before I use Tremolo 
in the same measure?



Regards,
Dieter
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Re: [Tex-music] tremolo numerical pitch (MusiXTeX 1.19)

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

thanks for the Info. With some trial and error I get what I want, but I 
don't know why.

=
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
114444
% npickup nkeys
 00
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
04   20 0.05

t
.\
w250pt
Tt
Test tremolo

  \trrml{1}\ a24l D"1"  \trml{2}\ a24l D"2" | /
  \trrml{3}\ a24l  D"3" \trml{4}\ a24l D"4" | /
  \trrml{5}\ a24l  D"5"  \trml{6}\ a24l D"6" | /
  \trmu{1}\ c25u D"1"  \trrmu{2}\ c25u D"2" | /
  \trmu{3}\ c25u  D"3" \trrmu{4}\ c25u  D"4" | /
 \trmu{5}\ c25u  D"5" \trrmu{6}\ c25u  D"6" | /


Obviously stem up and stem down behave differently.
It would be helpful, when the offset between note head and
tremolo beam would be measured in the same way.

Regards Dieter


Am 09.12.2015 um 01:17 schrieb dsim...@roadrunner.com:

Dieter--

The numerical pitch is the simply offset from the bottom line of the staff. So 
for example in treble clef, e4 is 0, f is 1, d is -1, etc.

--Don


 Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de> wrote:

Hi Don,

I cannot find the numeric pitch values in the documentation.
Can you give me a hint?

Thanks Dieter

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[Tex-music] two consecutive \zcharnote commands

[Dieter]

% nv, -noinst, nostaves per instrument
 1 -1 1
% mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 4 4 4 4 0 3
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
 0 5 20 0.07
Recorder
t
./
Tt
FANTASIA 1.
Tc
Georg Philipp Telemann
Abep
% Part, staff, voice( 1|Recorder| 1| 1), Bar 33
 \zcharnote{-8}{adagio}\zcharnote{-8}{allegro}\  [l f14l d35nl c35l 
d15l f15l ] r1 [l f15l e15l d15l ] [l g14l d35l c35l d15l

f15l ] r1 [l f15l e15l d15l ] | /
% Part, staff, voice( 1|Recorder| 1| 1), Bar 34
 [l a14l c35l b34l c15l a15l ] [l g14l c15l e15l a15l ] [l f14l c35l 
b34l c15l a15l ] [l e14l c15l e15l

a15l ] | /

==
During  the automatic translation from MusicXML to PMX I have the following 
problem:

I want "adagio allegro" and not "adagio" overwritten by "allegro".

Is there a better way to achieve this apart from writing: "\zcharnote{-8}{adagio 
allegro}"

Thanks and regards,
Dieter

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[Tex-music] Hairpins in PMX

[Dieter]

Hi,
I have a modeling problem with hairpins.
The following PMX code:
==
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
114444
% npickup nkeys
 00
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
011   20 0.05

t
.\
w100pt
Tt
Test crescendo
a04  D<   D< | /
  a04  D> | /
 r4 D> r2d | /

yields:

which is not nice.

When I introduce an additional  blind voice with rests and hairpins, like
==
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
114444
% npickup nkeys
 00
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
011   20 0.05

t
.\
w150pt
Tt
Test crescendo
r1b D< r2db r8db D< | //
a04   | /
r1b D> r2db r8db D> | //
  a04   | /
 r4  r2d | /
=
I get

This looks ok to me, but would not help in a situation, where there is 
already more than one voice in a staff.


Is this the recommended modeling or are there alternatives?

Thanks, Dieter
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Re: [Tex-music] Hairpins in PMX

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

thanks again for your rapid help. I am happy that I am able to solve the 
problem within PMX.
In particular with respect to automatizing the conversion from MusicXML 
to PMX.

Yes, I am still working on this!

Happy New Year to you, as well.

Dieter
Am 01.01.2016 um 17:40 schrieb Don Simons:

2016-01-01 12:27 GMT+02:00 Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de>:

a04  D<   D< | /
   a04  D> | /

...

Is this the recommended modeling or are there alternatives?

Look at the TeX file generated by PMX. You will see

\hpstrt10\hpcend100

Experiment with the parameters. When you get the result right, use inline
TeX instead of D< D<.

It turns out there's no need to go outside of PMX. Unfortunately on p.13
pmx270.pdf is at best ambiguous when it says "There can only be one of the
letter-groups on each note, but there may also be D< and/or D> on the same
note." I'll fix that in the new release of PMX 2.71, but in the meantime,
the following two options will work.

I'll also mention that you didn't use Ap (Type K postscript slurs) and you
should. Hairpins are different (with Ap, they don't have to be horizontal,
and the width can be fine-tuned more precisely). I checked that the example
works fine with Ap.

Finally, Happy New Year!

--Don Simons

  =
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
 114444
% npickup nkeys
  00
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
 012   20 0.05

t
.\
w150pt
Tt
Test crescendo
a04  D< D<+0+3 | a04 D> D>+0+3 | r4 r2d /
a04  D< | a04 D<+0-2 D> | r4 D>+0-2 r2d /
==

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Re: [Tex-music] musixtex version 1.19

[Dieter]

Hi Bob,

the new tremolo commands are exactly what I was looking for. Thank you 
so much!


On the other hand I wonder, whether the "Leitmotiv" on the title page of 
musixdoc.pdf 1.19:


If you are not familiar with TEX at all, I would recommend
to find another software package to do musical typesetting.
Setting up TEX and MusiXTEX on your machine and mastering it is
an awesome job which gobbles up a lot of your time and disk space.
But, once you master it. . .
Hans KUYKENS (ca. 1995)

is still valid.

In the end you will need some acquaintance with TeX and MusiXTeX, but to 
my opinion
a beginner can get results  within a day, using e.g. MikTeX on Windows, 
PMX and the book of Noack.


Does anybody know how many people around the earth are using "MusiXTeX 
and friends"?


When we want that MusiXTeX survives among the very many competing products
(see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scorewriters) , then, I 
believe,we should try to acquire more users

and not deter them.

Regards, Dieter

Am 29.11.2015 um 15:47 schrieb Bob Tennent:


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[Tex-music] install new PMXAB.exe: error message "libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll is missing"

[Dieter]

Good Morning, well almost noon in Germany!

I just installed latest PMX and MusixTeX versions. When I run pmxab, it 
seems to run, but  I get the above error message.


When I look in the Internet, there are hundreds of sites, who want to 
repair my PC.


So does anybody know, what this error message means? And what I have to do?

It never occurred with the older versions of PMX.

Thanks
Dieter
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Re: [Tex-music] progress with XML2PMX

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

I know of these problems. But I wonder whether it is worthwile to try to 
solve them automatically.


Once you have the PMX generated, you can do embellishments as you like.

--Dieter Gloetzel

Am 12.01.2016 um 04:22 schrieb Don Simons:


In bar 35 & 37, 5^th staff down, the upper octaves crash into the 
beam. PMX sets the beam height and slope based only on the main notes, 
and ignores any chordal notes. You would either need to tell it to 
make the beam higher, or enter the higher notes first (as main notes) 
while still forcing the beam to be an up-beam. Same problem in bar 16. 
7^th staff down.


--Don Simons

*From:*TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] *On Behalf Of *Dieter
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 8:44 AM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>
*Subject:* [Tex-music] progress with XML2PMX

Hi,

some of you will remember that I started working on a Converter from 
MusicXML to PMX more than a year ago.


Now it has got a certain mileage, but before publishing it, I want to 
show you some results for discussion.


/ActorPreludeSample.pdf /is the original notes sheet from Recordare Inc.

/ActPreSam48.PMX/ has been generated from the published MusicXML-file 
with almost no manual operations.


The only place, where  I had to tweak PMX a bit, was in measures 24 
and 25 for instruments 14, 18, 19 and 20,

where I could not place the dynamic marks automatically.
In the XML-Code the dynamic marks were located right at the beginning 
of the measure and not after the referenced note (like in PMX).


ActPreSam48.pdf is the result from running /ActPreSam48.pmx /with the 
latest PMXAB_2.71- (64Bit).


I would be pleased if someone could run the PMX, look at the error 
messages and warnings, like "more than 14 hairpins" etc.,
and tell me whether they are relevant or not and could or should be 
avioided.


Also what I do not understand, why the piece starts with an empty 
page. Any idea?


Regards Dieter
P.S. Thanks to Bob! the 64Bit version is the good one.


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Re: [Tex-music] progress with XML2PMX

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

thanks! This will help, when I need it.

Other question: Why can I not influence the page layout by changing "h" 
to some smaller value.
I had thought, that "w" and "h" were the dimensions of the notes 
surrounding rectangle. But that does not seem to be the case.


Regards,
Dieter

Am 12.01.2016 um 16:48 schrieb Don Simons:

FWIW, I can eliminate the blank page by including Ai.98, which reduces
\interstaff  for the first page from 11.7 to 11.5. But I doubt if you want
to include that in XML2PMX.

--Don Simons


-Original Message-
From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 4:51 AM
To: tex-music@tug.org
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] progress with XML2PMX



Which would then be the  values for "w" and "h" in PMX compatible with A3-
Format (297 mm * 420 mm)?

The problem seems to be invariant with respect to "\vsize".

Maybe I have to put some other dvips parameters in order to print A3.

Thanks and regards,
Dieter

Am 11.01.2016 um 22:00 schrieb Dirk Laurie:

2016-01-11 18:44 GMT+02:00 Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de>:


Also what I do not understand, why the piece starts with an empty
page. Any idea?

\vsize is larger than the default paper size.
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Re: [Tex-music] progress with XML2PMX

[Dieter]

Which would then be the  values for "w" and "h" in PMX compatible with 
A3-Format (297 mm * 420 mm)?


The problem seems to be invariant with respect to "\vsize".

Maybe I have to put some other dvips parameters in order to print A3.

Thanks and regards,
Dieter

Am 11.01.2016 um 22:00 schrieb Dirk Laurie:

2016-01-11 18:44 GMT+02:00 Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de>:


Also what I do not understand, why the piece starts with an empty page. Any
idea?

\vsize is larger than the default paper size.
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Re: [Tex-music] Sibelius to PMX

[Dieter]

Yes, when you have a MusicXML export from Sibelius.

Feel free to send me the source.

My tool has evolved a lot, but it will need a few more weeks to be ready 
for publication.


Regards,
Dieter

Am 16.01.2016 um 23:10 schrieb Don Simons:

Is it possible?

--Don Simons

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Re: [Tex-music] Sibelius to PMX

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

I have made good experience with the non free SHARPEye from Nvidia (UK): 
from scanned note sheet to MusicXML or Midi.


Then I discovered a free product "Audiveris" from France, but did not 
yet succeed to install it.


It is based on Java, and there was sort of a mess with respect to Java 
32 Bit and Java 64 Bit.


Would be great, when someone could resolve this problem.

You can also send me the PDF and I will see what I can do. This 
Audiveris thing should be able to

work directly on the PDF file and would not need additional scanning.

Regards,
Dieter




Am 17.01.2016 um 06:16 schrieb Don Simons:

Dirk Laurie wrote

2016-01-17 0:10 GMT+02:00 Don Simons <dsim...@roadrunner.com>:


Is it possible?

Possible, yes. Possible by open-source tools, no (as yet).

Sibelius can export to MusicXML, and Dieter can convert that to PMX.

Yeah, I got that by googling. I do have a pdf of the score. Is there
freeware to convert that to XML?

--Don Simons

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[Tex-music] NEw pmx- VErsion

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

(1) the new "8" clef works nicely, when set at the beginning. However on 
the fly it does not.

==
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
114444
% npickup nkeys
 00
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
011   20 0.05

t
.\
w150p
Tt
Test clef 8
a0 | /
C8 b0 | /




(2) Then I noticed, that scor2prt now creates files with extension 
*.pma. Is this intentional and, if yes, why?


(3) Then I wonder, whether PMX supports modeling staff crossing chords 
like in the 3rd measure?




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Re: [Tex-music] NEw pmx- VErsion

[Dieter]

Hi Andre,

 I am most impressed what you can do already with the "[j... ]j" 
statement.


However the meaning of "\chorsi{^OM}" is not obvious for me.

I wonder whether I will understand enough, in order to make use of these 
techniques for my MusicXML-->PMX translator.


Thanks and regards,
Dieter

Am 05.02.2016 um 11:38 schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem:
This are a few examples of staff crossing beams, What you want is 
something like the 1st bar, for that no in line code is needed.

===
2 1 4 4 4 4 0 4
1 2 20 0
bt
./
w150m
\\def\chorsi#1{\prevstaff\zq{#1}\nextstaff}\
%\\def\chorsii#1#2{\prevstaff\zq{#1}\zq{#2}\nextstaff}\
% with beams, all in pmx
b42 ze- e2 zb+ b4 ze- //
[l+24+1 g8 g zc b b ]j
[l+24+1 g8 ]j rb [j b ]j [j b ]j /
[j c8 rb e e ]
[j c8 ]j [j c zg ]j [j e+ ]j [jl e zc ] //
g05 /
%
%Normal chords
b4 zf+ X2 Gxe+s f2 zb- f4 zb- //
rbp /
\chorsi{^OM}\ d8 zf \chorsi{PM}\ d4 zf \chorsi{PM}\
d4 zf \chorsi{PM}\ d4 zf \chorsi{PM}\ d8 zf  /
%
% \sk's needed if rests at start of bar
m2424
r8 rb4 r8 /
r8+0 \prevstaff\sk\zq{^N}\nextstaff\sk\ f
\prevstaff\sk\sk\zq{N}\nextstaff\sk\sk\ fs r+0 //
r8b+0 b zds b zdsi rb+0 /
%
===
*From:* Dieter <mailto:d.gloet...@web.de>
*Sent:* Thursday, February 4, 2016 6:33 PM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive <mailto:tex-music@tug.org>
*Subject:* [Tex-music] NEw pmx- VErsion
Hi Don,

(1) the new "8" clef works nicely, when set at the beginning. However 
on the fly it does not.

==
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
114444
% npickup nkeys
00
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
011   20 0.05

t
.\
w150p
Tt
Test clef 8
a0 | /
C8 b0 | /




(2) Then I noticed, that scor2prt now creates files with extension 
*.pma. Is this intentional and, if yes, why?


(3) Then I wonder, whether PMX supports modeling staff crossing chords 
like in the 3rd measure?




Regards, Dieter


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Re: [Tex-music] PMX 2.73

[Dieter]

The latest 64Bit-Windows version from Bob runs without any problem.

Let me point out, that PMX has been capable of handling lyrics with 
musixlyr (without M-Tx) ,

since I started to work with PMX many years ago.

However this new solution is much more transparent and easier to use, 
than before.
It will help me also when I  include lyrics in the translation from 
MusicXML to PMX.


--Dieter Gloetzel

Am 31.01.2016 um 23:20 schrieb Don Simons:

I'm very pleased to announce the availability of a beta version of PMX 2.73.
Thanks to Dirk Laurie, PMX can now handle lyrics directly, without having to
use M-Tx as a pre-preprocessor. The zip file is available here:

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx273.zip

I'm also attaching an example .pmx I just put together, part of a Cantata I
had earlier published using M-Tx. Entering the text directly into PMX is now
really quite straightforward.

--Don Simons


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Re: [Tex-music] Slurs and Grace Notes

[Dieter]

Am 09.03.2016 um 21:04 schrieb Jean-Pierre Coulon:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2016, Dieter wrote:


   Could you give me the title of CPE Bach's Book?


http://imslp.org/wiki/Versuch_%C3%BCber_die_wahre_Art_das_Clavier_zu_spielen,_H.868,_870_(Bach,_Carl_Philipp_Emanuel) 



Hope the LaTeX source of my French translation will help whoever 
typesets translations in other languages. :-)


Bye,

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Thanks! Being german, I have no problem reading the facsimile of the 
original edition.


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Re: [Tex-music] Slurs and Grace Notes

[Dieter]

Am 09.03.2016 um 13:03 schrieb Jean-Pierre Coulon:

Did you try musixps?


   Yes, I am using the Ap-Option with PMX.
And read CPE Bach's book: such short slurs are always implied by grace 
notes. So you can remove them!


   This is an excellent recommendation. I was too much concentrated on 
getting the most information out of the MusicXML file.


   Could you give me the title of CPE Bach's Book?

Bye,


Regards,
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Re: [Tex-music] Single note transposition

[Dieter]

Am 13.03.2016 um 00:50 schrieb Rodolfo Medina:

Don Simons <dsim...@roadrunner.com> writes:


Rodolfo Medina wrote

I wish a way of transposing a note that would affect only that note
and not any note until next `\en' command, as ' and ` do instead.

...

Alternatively, a one- or two-digit, positive or negative integer can
always be used.


Thanks.  But in the next versions of MusiXTeX, I would hope that a new way
of `single note' transposition was introduced, so to affect, if desired,

only a

single note.  This for two reasons: the notation with digits is not good

when

the piece is to be entirely transposed, and second because, with such a
`single note affecting transposition', it would be enough for the user, to

write

notes, just to remember the seven letters: a, b, c, d, e, f, g and their

capital

correspondent: A, B, C, D, E, F, G.  So writing notes would be simpler.


I've been seeing the complicated negotiations that followed this, and
wondering all along "why?",


Because I hadn't thought of the simple solution to do 'p! and `p! and put
\zcharnote{}{} in parenthesis: {\zcharnote{}{}}.



until this morning when I looked up the start of
the thread. I still wonder why, given that PMX directly and simply addresses
both of the stated reasons --- full-score transposition and simple names for
notes. And furthermore, PMX implicitly handles another MusiXTeX
transposition issue: setting the default directions of beams.


Because, although I'm new to MusiXTeX, I'm an old plain TeX user so I'm
accustomed with plain TeX and its language and feel at ease and at home with
it, and MusiXTeX is written in plain TeX language.

Thanks,

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Hi Rodolfo,

why don't you give a try on PMX? I promise ( although you are an expert 
on TeX ) it will speed up your music  typesetting tremendously.


And in the saved time you could try to improve PMX's abilities in 
keyboard fingering.


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Re: [Tex-music] How easy is MikTeX to install?

[Dieter]

Am 28.02.2016 um 06:44 schrieb Dirk Laurie:
Hi Dirk,

I never encountered any severe problem with MikTex, which I have been 
using more than 15 years.


The only caveat I am aware of is: After manual package installation be 
sure to maintain the MikTex Database.


Regards
Dieter
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[Tex-music] Converter from MusicXML to PMX available

[Dieter]

Dear MusixTeXperts,

pls. find below links to Windows-Exe and Linux-Binary of XML2PMX.

http://icking-music-archive.org/software/xml2pmx/XML2PMX_Windows.zip
http://icking-music-archive.org/software/xml2pmx/XML2PMX_linux.tar.gz

XML2PMX Readme
(***)
(Copyright 2015/2016 Dieter Gloetzel ***)
(***)
This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version.

This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
GNU General Public License for more details.

You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.



1. "MusicXML" (of Recordare INC) is an extremely powerful description language 
for data exchange of musical notes.

2. "PMX" is the well known preprocessor for the musical typesetting system 
MusiXTeX.

3.  XML2PMX.exe is a converter (on MS Windows) from "MusicXML"  to "PMX"
and has been developed with Oberon for Windows 2.5 of ETHZ Zürich on 
Windows 7.
Linux binary version is available as well.

The following features have been included:

- maximum  of 24 staves/voices and 500 measures
- two voices per staff
- maximum of two staves per instrument
- notes and rests up to 64th, including tuplets and grace notes,
- maximum of 2 dots
- chords, accidentals
- some annotations like Fermata, Staccato, Tremolo etc.
- ties, slurs and beams
- definition of meter, fifths, clefs and their changes on the fly
- dynamic marks: hairpins, "ff" etc., piano damping pedal
- title and composer, and texts above or below the staff
- barlines, repeats, volta
- instrument names,
- origin of XML file copied to the resulting PMX file
- accepts Windows files  (records ended by 0DX OAX)
  as well as Unix files  (records ended by 0AX)
- resulting PMX-file has records ended by 0AX.

These features may not always function to a 100 % in all situations,
but once you have a PMX file with all of the notes extracted, the bulk 
work has been done.
It is then easy to improve the results on the PMX side.

4.  Usage on MS Windows or LINUX command line:
XML2PMX "xml-file with path" "pmx-file with path"
(The doublequotes are essential!)

The generated PMX file will in general be complete and will run through 
"pmxab.exe".

If not, you can often solve the problem with minor changes in the PMX 
code.

After the XML2PMX run you will find intermediate results in the 
terminal window which may be helpful
for debugging.

Some more elaborate situations like staves crossing beams or chords  
have not yet been covered.

5.  You will find MusicXML-sources for testing under:
http://www.musicxml.com/music-in-musicxml/example-set/

The following pieces from this source (and a few more) have been tested:

- Schubert: Ave Maria (Ellen’s Gesang III), D. 839

- Beethoven: An die ferne Geliebte, Op. 98

- Lee Actor "Prelude to a tragedy": sample with 22 instruments and 41 
measures

- Scanner results like from Sharpeye (Visiv, UK) have also been tested 
successfully.

6.  Contents:
Main folder "XML2PMX_LINUX" contains:
- Folder "example" with *.XML, *.PMX, *.pdf
- Folder "source" with the Oberon source code.
- XML2PMX executable
- GNU-GPL.txt
- this Readme.txt

7.  Contact:
You can join me under <d.gloet...@web.de> in order to report errors, 
propose improvements or other comments.


Regards,
Dieter Glötzel

 


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Re: [Tex-music] Shifting dots

[Dieter]

Hi Don and Bob,

thanks for your help. The solution works nicely. It was not obvious to 
me to first  augment the z-notes with a "d".


Sorry for the "50 mm" height.

May I ask: What is an RTFM J?

Regards Dieter

Am 05.08.2016 um 17:59 schrieb Don Simons:


That’s an easy one, basically an RTFM J

%[+4 c84 ze zgf zb zc {0 c84 ] {1 ze {2 zg {3 zb {4 zc c2d4 }0 ze }1 
zg }2 zb }3 zc }4 | /


[+4 c84 ze zgf zb zc {0 c84 ] {1 ze {2 zg {3 zb {4 zc c24d-2 }0 zed-2 
}1 zgd-2 }2 zbd-2 }3 zc }4 | /


There are some wrinkles, though. To move a dot, there must be an 
explicit “d” (even on a chord note), and the vertical shift must be 
the next number after the “d”. So that may conflict with your default 
way of explicitly indicating the octave.


The default position of dots within a staff is always in a space. If 
the note is on a line, the default is to move the dot up. That’s why 
all dots except the one on the c5 were moved, and also why the 
downward shift has to be closer to 2 than 1.


Why in the world did you set the page height to 50 mm? That caused my 
first page to be blank when I viewed this with Ghostview.


--Don Simons

*From:*TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] *On Behalf Of *Dieter
*Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 8:01 AM
*To:* tex-music@tug.org
*Subject:* [Tex-music] Shifting dots

Hi all,

in the last chord of the PMX example below the dots are not well 
positioned.






I would like to shift the dots for c4,e4,g4-flat and b4 a little bit 
downwords.


I tried  the recommendations of Cornelius Noack, but they do not seem 
to work.


I also wonder why the dot for c5 is on the same level of the note 
whereas all the others are higher.


Any body got an idea?

Thanks and regards,
Dieter



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[Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

some more observations on moving dots.

%Software : PMX
%Part P1 :
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 -1
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
 0 4 16 0.07
Piano
bt
./
Tt
The Girl from Ipanema
Tc
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Abep
AK
% Bar 72
a4d2 a8 e4 e+ | /
r2b r8 g43d zad zcd | //
g83 a cn { e e2 } | /


initial situation: g-dot partially covered by a-note
===

%Software : PMX
%Part P1 :
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 -1
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
 0 4 16 0.07
Piano
bt
./
Tt
The Girl from Ipanema
Tc
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Abep
AK
% Bar 72
a4d2 a8 e4 e+ | /
r2b r8 g43d-2 zad zcd | //
g83 a cn { e e2 } | /


looks like the a-dot has moved, but I wanted to move the g-dot
===
%Software : PMX
%Part P1 :
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 -1
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
 0 4 16 0.07
Piano
bt
./
Tt
The Girl from Ipanema
Tc
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Abep
AK
% Bar 72
a4d2 a8 e4 e+ | /
r2b r8 g43d zad-2 zcd | //
g83 a cn { e e2 } | /


looks like the g-dot has moved


%Software : PMX
%Part P1 :
%
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig
 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 -1
%
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
 0 4 16 0.07
Piano
bt
./
Tt
The Girl from Ipanema
Tc
Antonio Carlos Jobim
Abep
AK
% Bar 72
a4d2 a8 e4 e+ | /
r2b r8 g43d zad zcd-2 | //
g83 a cn { e e2 } | /


look like the c-dot has moved over the a dot
===

Do you have an explanation?

Thanks and regards,
Dieter
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[Tex-music] Fwd: Re: experiments with moving dots

[Dieter]

I apologize again. The overlap of  "c" and "d" happens only on screen. 
WIth a better resolution it disappears.


Regards, Dieter

 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff:Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots
Datum:  Tue, 9 Aug 2016 10:21:58 +0200
Von:Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de>
An: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>



Hi Don,

I apologize. My last observation was nonsense. I was turning the screw 
on the wrong tuplet.


Now it looks almost good. Only the c and the d in the right hand are 
overlapping.


Is there any fine-tuning of horizontal note shift apart from "r" or "e".

Regards,
Dieter

% Bar 66
L18
Rd
h
Coda
r2b g23x3n-2 fs e | //
g22x3n-8 zd+ b+ { a a2e }+0-1 | /
bu24x3n+6 zd- zb b {u c c2e }+0-1 | //
r2b d24x3nf e fs | /


Am 08.08.2016 um 17:25 schrieb Don Simons:

By “move” I’m guessing you mean “move vertically”. This may be another RTFM,
but with some amplification. (I have to RTFM myself for questions like this,
to refresh my memory about what I did). Evidently the bracket moves up or
down with the number. And to move the number, you need to put one or two
signed integers right after the “n”. So I’m thinking g22x3n-3fs-4 may do
what you want. However, if you also want the number to come out above the
bracket, I'm not sure PMX alone can do that.

--Don

From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 2:11 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive<tex-music@tug.org>
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

Hi Don,

I have another interesting tuplet case.

% Bar 66
r2b g23x3n-2 fs e | //
g22x3nfs-4 zd+ b+ { a a2e } | /
bu24x3n+6 zd- zb b { c c2e } | //
r2b d24x3n-2 e fs | /



I cannot move the lower left 3-bracket, neither with g22x3nf - something or
g22x3nfs - something.

Regards Dieter

Am 06.08.2016 um 21:35 schrieb Don Simons:
No explanation or fix yet. It looks like PMX is getting confused about which
dot to move. Must be related to the fact that the G was automagically moved
to the left because of the A in the chord. You could take advantage of that
and enter “g43d zad+0+1 zcd” to move the g dot 1 notehead width to the
right. That would line them up like  Jean-Pierre wants. But that’s obviously
not a very good long-term solution. Stay tuned.
  
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Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

I apologize. My last observation was nonsense. I was turning the screw 
on the wrong tuplet.


Now it looks almost good. Only the c and the d in the right hand are 
overlapping.


Is there any fine-tuning of horizontal note shift apart from "r" or "e".

Regards,
Dieter

% Bar 66
L18
Rd
h
Coda
r2b g23x3n-2 fs e | //
g22x3n-8 zd+ b+ { a a2e }+0-1 | /
bu24x3n+6 zd- zb b {u c c2e }+0-1 | //
r2b d24x3nf e fs | /


Am 08.08.2016 um 17:25 schrieb Don Simons:

By “move” I’m guessing you mean “move vertically”. This may be another RTFM,
but with some amplification. (I have to RTFM myself for questions like this,
to refresh my memory about what I did). Evidently the bracket moves up or
down with the number. And to move the number, you need to put one or two
signed integers right after the “n”. So I’m thinking g22x3n-3fs-4 may do
what you want. However, if you also want the number to come out above the
bracket, I'm not sure PMX alone can do that.

--Don

From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dieter
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 2:11 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

Hi Don,

I have another interesting tuplet case.

% Bar 66
r2b g23x3n-2 fs e | //
g22x3nfs-4 zd+ b+ { a a2e } | /
bu24x3n+6 zd- zb b { c c2e } | //
r2b d24x3n-2 e fs | /



I cannot move the lower left 3-bracket, neither with g22x3nf - something or
g22x3nfs - something.

Regards Dieter

Am 06.08.2016 um 21:35 schrieb Don Simons:
No explanation or fix yet. It looks like PMX is getting confused about which
dot to move. Must be related to the fact that the G was automagically moved
to the left because of the A in the chord. You could take advantage of that
and enter “g43d zad+0+1 zcd” to move the g dot 1 notehead width to the
right. That would line them up like  Jean-Pierre wants. But that’s obviously
not a very good long-term solution. Stay tuned.
  
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Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

[Dieter]

Thanks! Your work-around works.

Regards Dieter

Am 06.08.2016 um 21:35 schrieb Don Simons:


No explanation or fix yet. It looks like PMX is getting confused about 
which dot to move. Must be related to the fact that the G was 
automagically moved to the left because of the A in the chord. You 
could take advantage of that and enter “g43d zad+0+1 zcd” to move the 
g dot 1 notehead width to the right. That would line them up like 
 Jean-Pierre wants. But that’s obviously not a very good long-term 
solution. Stay tuned.


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Re: [Tex-music] 1+3 rhythms

[Dieter]

Am 07.08.2016 um 07:40 schrieb Dirk Laurie:

In the thread on shifting dots, r8 c4d is used for a 1-3 rhythm.
Is this preferred practice nowadays, or shoud one still rather
write r8 c8 s c4 s as I was taught 50+ years ago?
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Hi Dirk,

I did not invent the notation I am using. In fact I am copying the piano 
part of a SATB + Piano arrangement, in order to avoid too much page turning.


I think the choice of notation is a matter of taste. And I find the 
dot-notation less to type and easier to read.



Regards,

Dieter

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Re: [Tex-music] experiments with moving dots

[Dieter]

Hi Don,

I have another interesting tuplet case.

% Bar 66
r2b g23x3n-2 fs e | //
g22x3nfs-4 zd+ b+ { a a2e } | /
bu24x3n+6 zd- zb b { c c2e } | //
r2b d24x3n-2 e fs | /



I cannot move the lower left 3-bracket, neither with g22x3nf - something 
or g22x3nfs - something.


Regards Dieter

Am 06.08.2016 um 21:35 schrieb Don Simons:


No explanation or fix yet. It looks like PMX is getting confused about 
which dot to move. Must be related to the fact that the G was 
automagically moved to the left because of the A in the chord. You 
could take advantage of that and enter “g43d zad+0+1 zcd” to move the 
g dot 1 notehead width to the right. That would line them up like 
 Jean-Pierre wants. But that’s obviously not a very good long-term 
solution. Stay tuned.


--Don



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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

[Dieter]

Sorry, I forgot to include the resulting notes sheet.
--Dieter

Am 23.02.2017 um 09:26 schrieb Dieter:


Hi Bob and Hans Friedrich,

as  I pointed out in my previous mail, I made excellent experience 
with scanning notes, converting them to MusicXML, and then using 
XML2PMX to go to *.pmx.


So why do you not send me a PDF and I do the rest.

--Dieter
Am 22.02.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Bob Tennent:

  >|The project is producing size a5 booklets (~4 ... 12
  >|pages) with songs etc. for a service. Means mix of
  >|text and music.The first time I used noteedit which
  >|produces musixtex-code an combined this code with my
  >|texts.But noteedit does not run anymore on my computer
  >|:-(Than I found nted which is also nice to input music.
  >|But nted does not export musixtex. Now I am looking to
  >|frescobaldi. Maybe I can do the whole job in lilypond.
  >|However although I am TeX-user since 1989 I prefer to do
  >|the first pass of creating music using a gui. But in the
  >|2nd path I prefer to change tex code.

I suggest you look at MuseScore which runs on Linux (as
well as Windows and Mac OS), and both imports and exports
musicxml.

Bob T.

  >|>|>To get back to the original question. Does anyone know
  >| >|>some other way to get pmx, m-tx or tex from nted?
  >|
  >|There are many gui-based score editors which export to
  >|musicxml; why are you insisting on using nted, which
  >|doesn't? And if you are so keen on a gui-based score editor,
  >|why do you need to convert to pmx?
  >|
  >|Bob T.
  >|
  >|
  >|
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Re: [Tex-music] nted to tex (via midi or lilypond)

[Dieter]

Hi Bob and Hans Friedrich,

as  I pointed out in my previous mail, I made excellent experience with 
scanning notes, converting them to MusicXML, and then using XML2PMX to 
go to *.pmx.


So why do you not send me a PDF and I do the rest.

--Dieter
Am 22.02.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Bob Tennent:

  >|The project is producing size a5 booklets (~4 ... 12
  >|pages) with songs etc. for a service. Means mix of
  >|text and music.The first time I used noteedit which
  >|produces musixtex-code an combined this code with my
  >|texts.But noteedit does not run anymore on my computer
  >|:-(Than I found nted which is also nice to input music.
  >|But nted does not export musixtex. Now I am looking to
  >|frescobaldi. Maybe I can do the whole job in lilypond.
  >|However although I am TeX-user since 1989 I prefer to do
  >|the first pass of creating music using a gui. But in the
  >|2nd path I prefer to change tex code.

I suggest you look at MuseScore which runs on Linux (as
well as Windows and Mac OS), and both imports and exports
musicxml.

Bob T.

  >|>|>To get back to the original question. Does anyone know
  >| >|>some other way to get pmx, m-tx or tex from nted?
  >|
  >|There are many gui-based score editors which export to
  >|musicxml; why are you insisting on using nted, which
  >|doesn't? And if you are so keen on a gui-based score editor,
  >|why do you need to convert to pmx?
  >|
  >|Bob T.
  >|
  >|
  >|
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Re: [Tex-music] XML2PMX ramblings

[Dieter]

Am 18.01.2017 um 18:11 schrieb Don Simons:


Dieter Gloetzel and I have been working together to identify (both of 
us) and fix (Dieter) some issues in XML2PMX.


One (admittedly rare) problem we found occurs when the PMX score 
produced by XML2PMX has more than 10 slurs + ties going across a page 
break. We traced it to a limitation in Stanislav Kneifl’s postscript 
slur package. Although Stanislav is hesitant to actively re-engage in 
MusiXTeX programming after 10 years of absence, he did provide some 
pointers. By mimicking the existing patterns of register allocation in 
musixps.tex, my limited knowledge of TeX then allowed me to bump that 
up to 14 but no more.  Given etex’s massively enhanced register 
capacity over the older version of TeX that Stanislav used as a basis, 
we’re wondering if anyone on the list with a deeper understanding of 
TeX would be willing to dig into this and try to bump it up further, 
to 20 or 30 or more. Please contact me if so.


I’ve encountered another slightly related matter that raised some 
interesting points. For performance purposes, I’d like to use PMX to 
make a harpsichord part for Bach’s 5^th Brandenburg movement II that 
has more legible figures than the only figured one I could find on 
IMSLP.  I naively thought maybe I could save a little effort by 
finding an XML file of it and using XML2PMX to get started. I couldn’t 
find one, but I have found both a MIDI and a Finale file. I also found 
a free program MuseScore 2 that can convert MIDI to XML. I succeeded 
in importing the MIDI into MuseScore, but quickly realized something 
that seems to render any further effort along this track pointless. 
Any MIDI file with any sophistication at all (including those produced 
by PMX!) will have built in gaps between successive notes in the same 
voice, even if there’s no rest in the source. But MuseScore doesn’t 
know how to deal with that fact, so it dutifully puts in lots of 64^th 
and 128^th rests into the exported XML file. FWIW XML2PMX could not 
handle that, possibly because PMX can’t really do 128^th rests. As for 
the Finale file, MuseScore won’t input it, and I don’t know of any 
other free S/W I could use to convert it to XML. The good news is that 
the movement is not very long and making the PMX from scratch will not 
be too difficult.


--Don Simons



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Hi Don,

I have made some good experience with XML2PMX and musical OCR, using 
Sharpeye from Visiv.


For this I need either a high quality printout for scanning  or even 
better the pdf file, generated by Finale.


Then I convert it to Tiff and feed it into Sharpeye. Then there will  be 
some manual work and finally an export to MusicXML.


Or you find somebody, who has a Finale license and ask him to produce 
MusicXML.


Regards,

Dieter


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[Tex-music] Vertical spacing: AI-Option in PMX

[Dieter]

Hi,

I do have trouble in working with the AI Option of PMX for interstaff 
spacing.


According to Noack:


I understand that \interstaff will be multiplied by x, when I use this 
option. But what I find is for a certain configuration, that
the staff distance in a piano piece becomes bigger, when I  set x to 0.5 
insted of 1.0.


x = 0.5


x = 1.0

I am quite happy with the x =0.5 solution, but I would be happy to gain 
some understanding of what is happening.


Regards, Dieter

---
\input musixtex
\input pmx
\input musixlyr
\setlyrics{s1}{\llap{1.} Dan-ke, Kon-stan-ze, dass du da bist, 
dan-ke, dass wir bei-sam-men sind.
Dan-ke, dass du ge-sund und gl\"{u}ck-lich und zu-frie-den bist.}
\setlyrics{s2}{\llap{2.} Dan-ke f\"{u}r je-des L\"{a}r-men, To-ben,
dan-ke f\"{u}r je-des Wi-der-wort.
Dan-ke, f\"{u}r je-des hel-le La-chen,
zu~h\"{o}r'n an je-dem Ort.}



\setlyrics{s3}{\llap{3.} Lie-be f\"{u}hrt dich auf al-le Gip-fel,
Lie-be bringt dich durch je-des Tal.
Lie-be, dir heut von Gott ge-ge-ben,
tr\"{a}gt dich al-le-mal.}

\setlyrics{s4}{\llap{4.}
Dan-ke f\"{u}r die-se Tau-fe heu-te, dan-ke f\"{u}r je-des gu-te Wort.
Dan-ke, dass Dei-ne Hand sie lei-ten wird an je-dem Ort.  }



%\staffbotmarg=13cm
\let\BM\beginmel
\let\EM\endmel
---
% In the Mood
% PREAMBLE
% nstaves ninstr mtrnuml mtrdenl mtrnump mtrdenp
2
1
4
4
0
6
% npickup nkeys
 0
+1
% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
0
4
   20
 0.05
 
bt
.\
Ti
Piano 
% Body
% Header
AbepI0.6
Tc
M. G. Schneider
Tt
Danklied
%h
%oder unerwarteter Abschied von Ulla Winblad
It80ipi
% Av
% space before first note of bar
% big accidentals
% equalizes interstaff spacing
% type K slurs
%\\setclef2{\treble}\settrebleclefsymbol{2}\treblelowoct\
%\interstaff{20\Interligne}\
% Bars 1-3
%\\\atnextline{\lyrraise{1}{b-3cm}}\
\llyr\loffset{2}\lyr\
g22 zb zd e23 zg zb | a22 zc ze d23 zf za | g22 zb zd  e23 zg zb |  a22 zc ze 
d23 zf za | /
\\\assignlyricsmulti{1}{2}{s1,s2,s3,s4}\
g44 g r8 g8a g g | a4 a b b | g g r8 g8a g g | e4 e d2 | /
g22 zb zd g22 zb zd zf | c23 ze zg c23 zef zg | g22 zb zd d23 zf za zc | g2d2 
zb zd  r4 | /
g4 g r8 g8a a b | c4 b a g | d g g f | g2d r4 | /
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Re: [Tex-music] Vertical spacing: AI-Option in PMX

[Dieter]

Hi André,

thanks for your time. Obviously I had forgotten that "npages = 0" can 
only be used for testing and not for production.


Regards,
Dieter


Am 20.08.2016 um 05:47 schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem:

I believe the

% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
0  <
4
   20
0.05
-
does not obey the rules anymore.
I tried

% npages nsystems musicsize fracindent
1
4
   20
0.05
-
with
AbepI.6 and AbepI1.0 and all seems to be normal
Andre
*From:* Dieter <mailto:d.gloet...@web.de>
*Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 3:08 PM
*To:* Werner Icking Music Archive <mailto:tex-music@tug.org>
*Subject:* [Tex-music] Vertical spacing: AI-Option in PMX
Hi,

I do have trouble in working with the AI Option of PMX for interstaff 
spacing.


According to Noack:


I understand that \interstaff will be multiplied by x, when I use this 
option. But what I find is for a certain configuration, that
the staff distance in a piano piece becomes bigger, when I set x to 
0.5 insted of 1.0.


x = 0.5


x = 1.0

I am quite happy with the x =0.5 solution, but I would be happy to 
gain some understanding of what is happening.


Regards, Dieter


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