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6 - The Delusions of 2005
Since deception and
delusion are strong forces in the last days, I have come
Let me
add a big Amen to JDs comments. I not only understood it. I learned
from it and agree with it.
Thank
you brother.
The
best approach, many times, is to
just tell people how Jesus changed your life. (From what you was, to what you
is )
Terry
Thanks for these
This is new, it's called shotgun evangelism
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051229/CFP03/512290458
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THAT SOME DAY OUR COURTS WILL BE FULL OF THIS KIND OF JUDGES
.
MAYBE THEN, WE CAN PUT GOD BACK WHERE HE BELONGS --- IN
EVERYTHING
WE DO
Way
to go, Judge
In Florida an atheist
became incensed over the preparation for Easter
and
Passover
Don't pretend to understand himJohn. It just encourages him to keep
writing answers to his own comments.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And therein is its limitation. Right?
jd
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..cultic-apostolic
theory
It is commomly believed that the wise men came to the stable, but they
didn't even come to the same town when they finally arrived more than
two years later.
Dave wrote:
his 14-year old mother, Mary
DAVEH: Is it commonly believed by many Christians that Mary was only
14 when
Dave wrote:
DAVEH: As I understand DavidM, he believes prophets exist today. Is
that the way you believe as well, Bishop?
=
Profits exist almost everywhere today, except, of course, in my shop.
Actually, it is supposed to have started with the tower of Babel, and
the master builders who were to construct it.
Terry
Judy Taylor wrote:
No it is way before that; the ancient fertility cults
were practised in Canaan before God destroyed the Amorites.
On
Tue, 27 Dec 2005
You could be right. I will pretend to understand him too.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can almost hear Terry saying, "save the women and children !!"
Perhaps we need to humor the one who is the maker of bats !!!
jd
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Date:
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To:
cimerron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cimerron sez:
Onest a rassler, always a rassler?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David maneuves to pin jd to the wall:
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Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6)
ShieldsFamily wrote:
You cannot just stop cold turkey. If you don't taper off gradually, you will
have a relapse.
Terry
Having been moving for the last couple of days, I just got a chance to sit
down for a rest and browse through TT. I am dismayed as what I see. I
wonder why I have been
nature of this procedure, TT provides
only a referral service to EST practitioners. Some former subscribers
have used self-administered electroshock therapy with limited success.
Perry
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Apollo wrote Hebrews with the help of Phred. I have never read Mrak.
Is he one of them minor 'postles? :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The job of the apostles was not to write the
What bis with this CE nonsense? It is Anno Domini, the year of our
Lord..If you have a Lord. CE is for Lost sinners, not
saved ones.
Terry
Dave wrote:
There is no doubt that the cross was extremely important and
emphasized by the primitive Christians, much more so than
Billy
Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson
asked her "How could God let something like this Happen?" (regarding
Katrina)
I think you named the apostles correctly. It appears that your list of
names of the others goes down hill from there. You did not even mention
Joseph Smith. Certainly he was as much a (False) prophet as Calvin and
more influential than any of the liberals you chose to honor.
You might want
I appreciate your comments, Dave. This helps me to better understand
what you have either been taught or come to believe. If I may, I would
like to take the liberty of pointing out some differences in our views.
I see Jesus sweating out the coming event in the garden much as I sweat
out a trip
Dave wrote:
some differences in our views.
I see Jesus sweating out the coming event in the garden
DAVEH: I understand your perspective on this, but for Jesus to
literally sweat blood worrying about what is to come seems a bit
oddeffectively, it would seem the anticipation is
the Montana or Wyoming winters, you
might want to take a peek at Oregon before making such a major error
of judgment, Terry! =-O
Terry Clifton wrote:
www.cliftoncustomrifles.com
Right now, we have the place up for sale. If we get our price, we
intend to move to Montana or Wyoming
Thank you ,Lance. Some great truth here. Something to store in my
mind for continued value.
Terry
Lance Muir wrote:
. Our 'authority' with respect to
people is to serve them. The Son of Man came to SERVE.This is the big,
big joke when asking 'what authority can a woman have'? The
with a wood stove. Outhouse out back. Lots of wilderness and deep snow in
the winter. The snakes weren't so cute, though. iz
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I don't think so,Marlin. What some are saying is "Lets get drunk and
make an ass of ourselves at the Christmas party". Some are saying,
"Diamonds are forever". Others are saying, "More stuff will
make me happy".
Some kids will get way too much today. Others will get far too
little. Very few
I killed a buck at sixty yards this afternoon and thought I had done
something, then I read
Christmas.
Perry
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I killed a buck at sixty yards this afternoon and thought I had done
something, then I read this.
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Let's all try to be big on the Ho Ho Hos today, and try to avoid the
Humbugs.. He will know we are His if we have love for one another.
Blessings,
Terry
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Hi Friend,
Today's meditation is taken from:
THE GIFT OF
Before you can mend 'em, you have to know how to speem, John. :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I scratch my head in merry wonder-mint (ah - the aroma of
ignorance is pleasent to the senses) - I must admitnot "even a
guess" and have given up, entirely , on mending fenses.
Got you covered.
Terry
Judy Taylor wrote:
Hey Everyone,
Please pray for us - If I'm not available
for a while it's because I have a houseful of needy people; I hope
everyoneeveryone
has a peaceful and joyous Christmasthat is focusedon the one true light during
these
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: Note to Fellow TTers: Perry is allowing me to return to TT
without restriction. Due to my recent rather harsh treatment of him
as he performed his Moderator duties, I owe him an apology for showing
less than the respect he deserved as our Moderator, and to you
I don't know fer sure just who is right and who is all wet, but since no
one that I know of has been healed by my shadow, I ain't about to drink
any poison.
Terry
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perry wrote:
BTW, Izzy, the Holy Spirit revealed this
was really trying to
help you and loved you.
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Terry Clifton
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
12/19/2005 10:54:00 AM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
Keeping the law has never saved anyone, girls. T
attempt
to take it to heart. By the by, just who do you perceive to be the
'liberals' on TT? How is it that you define 'liberal'? Yikes!! , have I
done 'it' already?
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Terry Clifton
To:
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Sent:
December 21
Welcome back, Judy.
Terry
Judy Taylor wrote:
Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes: That is exactly what I am talking about, David.
Jesus said "You have heard it said that you should love your
neighbor and hate your enemy,
but I tell you, Love your enemies, bless
nt example of a
superior attitude, but John is not the only one to write this way. I
have been guilty of it. You will have to decide for yourself I guess
if you are too.
Judy Taylor wrote:
Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
If we cannot all learn that, it would be better to
No argument there brother. Judy has much to offer this group.
Terry
Dean Moore wrote:
cd: I will consider you point-But I
also see a lot of truth being presented correctly by Judy that should
be heeded-and it is ignored.
Would you care to expand on that statement?
Lance Muir wrote:
There is NO MILLENIUM! We are where
HEAVENwill be.
much energy into her work-for you and the
others.
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Terry Clifton
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
12/19/2005 1:42:41 PM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
I am sorry Judy. It pains me to say
.
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Terry Clifton
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
December 20, 2005 08:57
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance
Would you care to expand on that statement?
Lance Muir wrote:
There is NO MILLENIUM
You are probably on to something here, David. I cannot say for sure.
Anyone who loves the Lord will, if for no other reason than to be
obedient, love the Lord's people. I am saying that I could not see it
in the way she responded to people. Judy is not the only one on here to
affect me
Keeping the law has never saved anyone, girls. The law has value in
that it shows us (to some extent) what sin is. We no longer offer a
sacrifice because Jesus was our sacrifice. If that part of the law has
been fulfilled, then all the law has been fulfilled. The shed blood of
Jesus was far
I was not talking about divorce or brothers or neighbors.. I was
talking about enemies.
David Miller wrote:
Terry wrote:
The old law allowed you to hate your enemy.
When you say, "old law," are you talking about the Torah of Moses? Where
does it allow anyone to hate
. If you could see
the love in me - what would it look like? Can you describe it please?
judyt
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:53:35 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Keeping the law has never saved anyone, girls. The law has
value in that it shows us (to some extent) what sin is. We
That is exactly what I am talking about, David. Jesus said "You have
heard it said that you should love your neighbor and hate your enemy,
but I tell you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you." Jesus
is saying to change. Stop doing it the way you have been taught. I
have a better way.
Judy Taylor wrote:
Terry,
You wrote a very explicit comment about me
personally earlier today which caused me to
respond with the following question. If
you are walking in the kind of love you accuse me of
being void of ... Then couldyou please
answer the following for me.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is legalism that filters the
nat and chokes on the camel.
Or verse visa
Where is the arrogance, John? This is one of her better efforts. Give
credit where it is due. Please? We are sposed to be family. Let's
try harder.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Arrogance will get you nowhere.
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is simply not believable. I see
no sincerity in her post. Sorry.
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Where is the arrogance, John? This is one of her better efforts. Give
credit where it is due. Please? We are sposed to be family. Let's
try harder
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This little daily blurb seems to point out the real difference between the
Mormon religion and living by faith
::
For I determined to not know anything among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him
crucified (I Corinthians 2:2).
Religion
If your principles reflect Him perfectly, would your speech and
behavior also do the same?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
If we really
know the Person, our
principles will reflect Him perfectly. There is no dichotomy
Amen.
Terry
Dean Moore wrote:
Kevin, Blain-while I am not
the Moderator I would like to remind you guys that according to the
Holy Spirit we are suppose to be subject to authority-Here Perry is
that authority.
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Dean Moore wrote:
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Terry Clifton
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
12/16/2005 9:30:38 PM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
Romans 14:4-6 Who are you to judge
another man's
Dean Moore wrote:
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Terry Clifton
To:
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Sent:
12/17/2005 1:19:38 PM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
Dean Moore wrote
If Christ had not been nailed to the cross, His death would have meant
nothing. Prophecy said He had to be lifted up.
Terry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then what do youthink Gethsemane was all about? He shed blood
then, as well as on the cross, and was in such an agony as
Dean Moore wrote:
As for the Commandments being only for the Jews
you are wrong-dead wrong. The ceremonial law (ie. the Holy Feast
days),the Priestly law ,and the dietary law are non- binding to
Christians but this does not include the commandments.Terry you need to
learn
It is sooo nice to see that the two of you are finally in agreement.
Judy Taylor wrote:
JD
And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation
as a witness of God just as surely as God is at
work
It is quite obvious, Judy. Never on TT before have two people been so
compatible. Must be the Qwanza, xmas, winter break spirit. :)
Judy Taylor wrote:
Hi Terry,
where would you get that idea?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:51:49 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes
Don't have any idea why this thing is changing colors on me.
Terry
Any way.Let me suggest
that at some point in everyone's life, God reveals Himself and offers
salvation to every individual. I say that because God is not willing
that any be lost, and if it is not His
I have a Christian brother who was asking me what I thought about a book
called Time Has An End by Harold Camping. I have never heard of the
author or the book. Can anyone offer an opinion?
Terry
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
Romans 14:4-6 Who are you to judge another man's servant? To
his own master he stands or
falls..One person
esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let
each be fully convinced in his own mind.
You seem to be convinced, Iz,
How about to fulfill prophecy? Is that a good reason?
Blainer wrote
I am not sure why dying had to take place on the cross,
eventually, unless it has something to do with overcoming death--which
had to be done in order to overcome the effects of Adam's
ShieldsFamily wrote:
A
special message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin...
So what is the message?
u disagree? (BTWYou will notice a
single Star of David in the middle forefront of the picture.)
Terry Clifton wrote:
In a national cemetery, Dave, you will see the cross over those who
claimed to be Christians and a star of David over those who were
Jewish. As I pointed out be
Dean Moore wrote:
You have got to be joking, Dean! There is no sin of omission?
Is following Christ only about correcting others? How about giving a
drink to a thirsty man? How about passing by the wounded on the road
to Damascus? How about the guy broke down alongside the
.
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Terry Clifton
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
12/15/2005 8:33:44 AM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
Dean Moore wrote:
You have got to be joking, Dean! There is no sin of
omission
ing foward to your
TESTIMONY! PTL!
Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dean
Moore wrote:
You have got to be joking, Dean! There is no sin of
omission? Is following Christ only about correcting others? How about
giving a drink to a thirsty man? How abo
BTW You are right that God already knows
Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
To
tell you these things would be bragging, Kev. What I am doing is known
by the One who needs to know. He does it through me. Remember the
instructions? Don't let your right hand know what the other is doing.
ELIGION
Pure religion and
undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless
and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the
world.
What are you DOing? Tell us of your DEEDS.
Looking foward to
your TESTIMONY
. [tale and bear.] A person who officiously
tells tales; one who impertinently communicates intelligence or
anecdotes, and makes mischief in society by his officiousness.
OFFI'CIOUS a. Busy; intermeddling in affairs
in which one has no concern.
Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
no concern.
Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I
am really sick of real stupid people who ASSUME to have facts they do
not have. I believe the Bible refers to them as gossips.
Terry
Kevin Deegan wrote:
NAW I am just sick of people that flap
and too many times this becomes a graven image or idol and
people reject themselves when they don't
measure up rather than giving thanks for being
fearfully and wonderfully
made.
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:14:35 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Could you explain what you
In a national cemetery, Dave, you will see the cross over those who
claimed to be Christians and a star of David over those who were
Jewish. As I pointed out before, many people claim to be Christians
who are not. They are wannabees who have the desire but not the
faith. The cross does not
The unitythat is shared by these
individuals is found in theirhigh regard for the Word and their
commitment to a living Christ.those two considerations are bigger
than all their differing theologies.
Very well said, John.
Terry
Could it be that these verses have more than one thing that we can
learn from them? I see two things here (The accusers were hypocrites,
and we all sin without always really seeing sin in our words and
actions) . I would not be surprised to see more with careful study.
That is one of the great
Well stated, Dean. I liked this part best.
Terry
Dean Moore wrote:
cd: Case and point without the cross
there could be no savior-hence no salvation and as keeping the law was
a failure all were headed to hell-no way to pay
Dean Moore wrote:
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Terry Clifton
To:
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Sent:
12/13/2005 9:22:58 PM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes
I do not agree, Iz. In fact, I would say not
very
I think that we have isolated the problem, Dave. You seem to be
thinking like the world instead of as a follower who has taken up the
cross and died to self.
Terry
Dave Hansen wrote:
Those wearing one are sending a message that
they follow Christ.
DAVEH: Unfortunately, they naively
Is this sign actually located somewhere on or in the Mormon temple? I
would like an honest answer from someone who has been there and seen it.
Terry
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Does the temple display Satanic stars?
On has only to use the eyes God gave him, or he can shut his
eyes and avoid the
There have been freemasons since the tower of Babel, where it all
started.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
There were freemasons at the founding of our goverment.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_tapestra11.htm
White house at bottom point
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lance Muir wrote:
Speaking ONLY of expressions on TT,
may I ask ALL participants who have never sinned ON TT to identify
themselves. IMO, NOT ONE HAS NOT SINNED ON TT ALONE NEVER MIND THEIR
LIVES APART FROM TT.
DUH! How did you
figure that out? I can spot the sins in you other
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From:
Terry Clifton
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
December 13, 2005 09:17
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] TRUE CHRISTIANS SAY NO TO SATAN BEFORE IT MANIFESTS
INTO SIN - says Dean Moore
Lance Muir wrote:
Speaking ONLY of expressions on
TT
It might benefit us all, Iz, if you would point out the error in John's
thinking. Not all of us have the benefit of a close relationship with
a Jewish believer. None of the jewish guys I ever knew or worked with
were anything that would please the Lord.
Terry
ShieldsFamily wrote:
The Perfect Arm
The coach had put together the perfect team for the Detroit Lions. The only
thing missing was a good quarterback. He had scouted all the colleges and
even the Canadian and European Leagues, but he couldn't find a ringer who
could ensure a Super Bowl victory.
. History should not be distorted by
anit-semites. iz
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday,
December 13, 2005
9:44 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk]
It might benefit us all, Iz,
if you would
BIG amen.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Blaine, you seem to be missing a fine point here. Christians do not
use crosses as a symbol of Jesus, like mormons do with stars and
planets. The cross, to the Christian, is a reminder of the tremendous
price that Jesus paid for our sins. BIG
13 Dec 2005 20:22:20 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I do not agree, Iz. In fact, I would say not very perceptive
at all. There are sins of commission and there are sins of omission,
and it is not too hard to find one or the other in any post on TT.
I stand by my statement th
Not a tendancy, Kev. Just commenting on the obvious. How did you
score? Let me know so that I can feel edified.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
I guess that when one is doing "miserably" there
is always a tendancy to that natural blindness that sees everyone else
must be also.
Ter
Could you explain what you mean by self rejection?
Judy Taylor wrote:
Hi Terry,
I don't know that any of us would say that
they are "self satisfied" in fact not even Paul himself said that.
What he did say is that he didn't know of
any sin but that did not mean he was
We have already established that I have failed the test Kev. Now we is
talkin' 'bout you.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Doing your part to Edify?
"Let me know so that I can feel edified"
"Congratulations on doing so well."
Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not
a
from the tombnot the cross.
Terry Clifton wrote:
I think you are missing something important here
Dave. The cross, like
the tomb, is empty. Jesus won the victory (for us). The only
people
who still have Him on the cross are Catholics. We "Protestants"
celebrat
No doubt aboudit.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blainerb: Many Protestants seem to wear the cross as a way to
make a statement of their Christian beliefs, but some, I think, wear it
in much the same was as the Pharisees and Scribes wore phylacteries on
their garments, and prayed in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so, when I was a kid, I thought I might be a cowboy ..
really. How 'bout you.
Rhinestone, or drug store, or real? It's not too late for
the first two. All you need is a pair of boots and a big hat.
And I really kinda of
thought I would get old
I N F I N I T E S U P P L Y
Sunday, December 11, 2005
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Hi Friend,
Today's meditation is taken from:
THE CRISIS OF A CHRISTLESS CHRISTIANITY
by Chip Brogden
http://www.watchman.net/articles/crisis.html
::
“So then
Obviously..
Lance Muir wrote:
'People get passionate
about..traditions' Even on TT I noticed. Kevin, Dean and occasionally
your Dad strike me as persons who are Christian counterparts to
radicals that'd be found in Islam, Sikhism militant Zionism where
their 'faith _expression_'
ufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and
many,
many more to come).
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From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20
Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas
We have be
If anyone is trying to think of what to get me for a Christmas/Qwanza/
winter break gift, I would like the railroad car, the crane, and the
x-ray machine.
Terry
http://www.govliquidation.com/index.html
Military Surplus and Government Surplus Auctions at Government Liquidation.url
hina/India.
They,
Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned
stores.
No more
'made in the USA!
(3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and
many,
many more to come).
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory
Do they come in camo? I could get by without the x-ray.
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: OK Terry...I'll just scratch the leather jacket off the
list I was making for you.
Terry Clifton wrote:
If anyone is trying to think of what to get me for a Christmas/Qwanza/
winter
Sounds like a tough neighborhood. Joe must have been as full of grit
as bad bad Leroy Brown.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
The plates were secreted about three miles from home...
Joseph, on coming to them, took them from their secret place, and,
wrapping them in his linen frock, placed them under his
I think you are missing something important here Dave. The cross, like
the tomb, is empty. Jesus won the victory (for us). The only people
who still have Him on the cross are Catholics. We "Protestants"
celebrate an empty cross. The one we deserved was occupied by another,
but, Praise God, no
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