Re: [Vo]:OT: Energy and taxation

Well, taxation everywhere. We know that in best can we get 50 cent of value for every tax dollar. We need a simple tax code not a myriad of them to make us all confused. VAT nothing else is one way. Probably are many other ways. On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 15:28 Jed Rothwell wrote: > H LV wrote: > >

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Omicron

Nobody died from the Vax? Good economic decision to close businesses, Close schools etc.? Must have been Sleep for a couple of years. On Sun, Dec 19, 2021, 22:49 Jed Rothwell wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > > >> The fact that it is more infectious may turn out to be a boon rather than >>> a

Re: [Vo]:Freire et al., Preliminary survey on cold fusion

Hi guys long time, Your discussion of gravity is way over my paygrade. However, if gravity is such a power , how can the two bodies of the esrth on one side and the O2 molecule keep together. In other words why do the gases in the atmosphere stay there. I was told in school that nature hates

Re: [Vo]:Copy of "A Brief Introduction to Cold Fusion" without YouTube ads

Just så the Said in germany in the 1930is. Government can do as they want. The government wants our best. On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, 13:09 Jed Rothwell wrote: > ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > > >> >>No vote is needed.<< -> so no freedom of choice >> > > Absolutely no freedom of choice!! You are never

Re: [Vo]:Good news about the pandemic at last

Yes Jed I understand your philosophy. The government does things and they do right. Inventions, medicine or . . . Doesn't matter you just have that mindset nothing much to do about. IMHO there is room for other sometimes opposite opinions. On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 11:17 Jed Rothwell wrote: >

Re: [Vo]: CoV-19 news

Yes but what about H2O2. Well-known killer of viruses. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 17:08 Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > On LENR forum we run a thread about all possible news about SARS-CoV-9 > CoV-19.. > > > https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6222-covid-19-wuflu-news/?action=lastPost > > Ivermectin

Re: [Vo]:A contrarian thought experiment

I like it. On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 19:40 Jones Beene wrote: > Robin, > > Yes. However if an AI which is accurately modeling outcomes behind the > scenes was developed, programmed and funded by a secretive group to which > we can attach that name, then it makes little difference what label gets >

Re: [Vo]:China will emerge from the coronavirus crisis stronger than the U.S.

n/Renault and at least has stolen 100'000'000$. > > J.W. > > > > > Am 25.03.20 um 21:52 schrieb Lennart Thornros: > > Michael I think your analysis is correct. However that does not mean Jones > is wrong rather support his position. > I have advocated your posi

Re: [Vo]:China will emerge from the coronavirus crisis stronger than the U.S.

Michael I think your analysis is correct. However that does not mean Jones is wrong rather support his position. I have advocated your position for a long time. However over the last 20 years I have concluded ; the West cannot compete with countries that ha substantially lower production costs.

Re: [Vo]:Israel

Sounds like the bureaucrats taken full control in Israel. Mandatory phone and all personal data about sicknesses, finances, friends, associations etc. We are way further than "1984".. We need a new book "2084". Lennart On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 10:05 Chris Zell wrote: > Maybe they could wear a

Re: [Vo]:A loss for the coal fields

Sorry Jurg. From Geany it might like a good idea to have a fat train in California. The interest from tjat investment would pay for free airfares on that route. However I agree with: US is ruled by a plutocratic mafia that lost any understanding for sustainable business & infra structure.

Re: [Vo]:How to make money with cold fusion

After reading the recipe for how to make money, I better understand how difficult it is. Business is not predictable this way. There are many more ingredients before this money dish is consumable. Lennart On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 21:29 Jed Rothwell wrote: > The world energy market is roughly $6

Re: [Vo]:Congress up in arms over UFOs

I 100% agree On Sun, Jun 23, 2019, 14:58 Terry Blanton wrote: > It is as I read somewhere, as long as there are several trillion dollars > of oil untapped, cold fusion will remain "fringe science". When we need > it, it will suddenly become accepted. Same with AG. >

Re: [Vo]:Congress up in arms over UFOs

> >informed? Why is that secret.? W go benefits from the secrecy? > >Lennart Thornros > [snip] > 1) Yes, we should be informed. > 2) It's secret because those in power assume massive panic if the word got > out. > They are wrong BTW, if *all* the facts are presented, rathe

Re: [Vo]:Congress up in arms over UFOs

If there is such a nonaggression pact. Shouldn't we the people 've informed? Why is that secret.? W go benefits from the secrecy? Lennart Thornros On Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 23:44 wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:55:29 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > 1) The Presi

Re: [Vo]:Article about Russ George

After reading the article about how Russ George dumped iron in the ocean, I felt I got support for what I have said at several Occasions. We live in the world where big organizations or making rules way over the head of any individual. The bureaucrats had a heyday there were more things to

Re: [Vo]:Toyota puts 24,000 hybrid car patents into the public domain

Jed If I remember right you think that all inventions or because of support by the government. Now you are entering into the judgement of a major corporation and it's decision making. Amazing. Lennart On Thu, Apr 4, 2019, 17:19 Jed Rothwell wrote: > Toyota has 24,000 patents for hybrid

Re: [Vo]:a bit of honesty in a complicated world

Yes, risk aversion so they all react 'safe'. CYA and political correctness comes with the territory, big organizations not allowed to fail On Fri, Mar 1, 2019, 17:59 H LV wrote: > In contrast with Big Tobacco of the 1970s, I think the big car companies > and big oil have investors who suffer

Re: [Vo]:Why venture capitalists are unlikely to help at this stage

wrote: > Lennart, the problem is deeper. You may enjoy this but it is mainly > political so most can skip it. > > http://www.delcotimes.com/opinion/20180611/guest-column-a-critique-of-the-democratic-platform-what-the-country-needs > > > > -Original Message-

Re: [Vo]:Why venture capitalists are unlikely to help at this stage

publicans are even worse as they seem to like starting wars. > Something is sadly wrong if China's GDP has grown at a rate of three times > that of the US for 20 years. > Adrian > > > > -----Original Message- > From: Lennart Thornros > To: vortex-l > Sent: Su

Re: [Vo]:Why venture capitalists are unlikely to help at this stage

n skip it. > > http://www.delcotimes.com/opinion/20180611/guest-column-a-critique-of-the-democratic-platform-what-the-country-needs > > > > -Original Message- > From: Lennart Thornros > To: vortex-l > Sent: Sat, Jun 16, 2018 9:43 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why vent

Re: [Vo]:Why venture capitalists are unlikely to help at this stage

Bs On Jun 15, 2018 4:40 PM, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > From time to time, people tell me that if only we had a practical device, > cold fusion research would be funded. McKubre and many others have pointed > that a practical device is the end-point of research, not where you start. > People don't

Re: [Vo]:Plastic bags

Yes Nigel. Poor countries do dispose all garbage into the sea. See Haiti, which has a system of stocking drainage ditches with garbage, then next rain fixes the problem The collection is made and then dispursed into the sea. Lennart On Sat, May 26, 2018, 04:40 Nigel Dyer

RE: [Vo]:guaranteed pay

I agree with you Chris. The problem is how to distribute the assets. Assets can't be owned by the society in general (communism). It is proven useless Assets can't be handled by other big entities (banks etc.) as they will act similarly to communism. In a healthy society the assets are

Re: [Vo]:guaranteed pay

I think this is a solution. All the rambling about that jobs disappear to China, to robots etc. does very little to solve the problem. I guess the Republican Party believe this is violates their basic philosophy. In reality it is just right on their philosophy. It takes care of the problem we face

Re: [Vo]:Sound Pulses Exceed Speed of Light

On Sep 3, 2017 11:09 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" wrote: > They did. See article below. > > Physicists Demonstrate Record Breaking Long-Distance Quantum > Entanglement in Space > Futurism.com ^ > Posted on 9/2/2017, 8:35:07 PM by TBP > > IN BRIEF > > Chinese physicists managed to

RE: [Vo]:Why Rossi 'won'

Jones, yes lawyers are big winners as in all lawsuits. Agree that Rossi got what he wanted and paid for it. If it is junk it remins to be seen. IMHO he could retire on 4 mil also. Dumb Swedes, maybe future will tell. How you KNOW is mindboggling to me. He is an entrpreneur, a risktaker and he does

RE: [Vo]:Why Rossi 'won'

I agree with Bob. It has been a lot of name calling here on Vortex during the last year. Especially AR has been given very demeaing epithets. I still don't know how well his invention works. I know he is a true entrepreneur. He believes in his ideas. One overwhelming proof is that he settled for

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

Frank Is it 1.094 MHz? On Jul 19, 2017 10:12, "Frank Znidarsic" wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern > wrote: > > > > There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically > > impossible. > >/snip > > > This is

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

The whole discussion after the TRAIL is useless. Accusations between vorts, discussions trying to determine how Rossi is a fraud or not - all of counter productive. Rossi has a small window to show that he has something. His ethics need no analysis. Rossi as a person is of little interest if the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi v. Darden

beneficial to label people. As I see it you have no qualification in that field. Personally I think very few if any has that ability. Lennart Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act

Re: [Vo]:Income inequlity

I agree with all three previous statements. We have to make sure we put a global view on it. People in third world countries will not tolerate the big differences. Problem will stay because nobody wants to spearhead a real solution, it doesn't propel reelection. Fight over details and allow

Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

there is something there. Until he is proven wrong I think he needs full support. Yours and worse Jed's statements are not founded on anything but guesses. Wait and see. I am sure that you have been the target of others unfounded critic. Not funny or did you enjoy? Lennart Thornros On Feb 18, 2017

Re: [Vo]:An argument against intellectual property rights

I think the value of the patent institution is diminutive. There are more a source for conflict and unethical behavior. The institution might have had a value in another era Today I think the only way to really get to benefit from an invention is to organize financing and marketing resources and

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Patent application by Lundin & Lidgren – nuclear spallation and resonance

is correct but if it is no wind than I just need to wait. Of course if it is a storm I have to ride t out. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Patent application by Lundin & Lidgren – nuclear spallation and resonance

secrets until the last minute before market.)Looks good. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:43 AM

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

Alain I have the same experience about China.(France and US). Isn't a good idea neglect political labels. There is none providing a 'best' result or worse for that matter. The culture with which they are implemented is more of an important factor. Eliminating energy pro lens would be a step to

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

leaving long term living there. Lennart On Dec 7, 2016 19:01, "Che" <comandantegri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> > wrote: > >> Che >> What else. do you know? >> I guarantee that

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

Che What else. do you know? I guarantee that I have seen more of communism than you. I guess what you meant was you have no argument. Lennart On Dec 6, 2016 23:25, "Che" <comandantegri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Lennart Thornros <l

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

. Lennart On Dec 6, 2016 18:32, "Che" <comandantegri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> > wrote: > >> Che, >> Venezuela, Cuba! >> How about accepting bygones, live today a

Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away

Che, Venezuela, Cuba! How about accepting bygones, live today and plan for the future. Have a goal. Maybe moving to Venezuela could be yours? Bring some food as they are starving. If you like the system , well then I suppose food is a minor problem. Lennart On Dec 6, 2016 18:04, "Che"

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

gt; > there is anyway much innovation , but it is deflationist (Uber, e-bay, > blablacar, heetch, Airbnb...), which is a pain for the indebted actors, > first the states, then US families. > Note that sharing economy is ... way to make you a capitalist exploiting > your assets. > > Future

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

but if we can change thhe attitude toward money we can create a lot. Money are just means. Who need to accrue more resources than he/she can utilise.? The real resources are time (which is equally distributed) and creativity (which needs recognition). Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

- and no marginal taxes. LENR could be the catalyst as it would fix a large portion of the debt. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Fri

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

LENR implementation. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 4:26 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

am glad you know and I would appreciate a good explanation so even if can understand. I do understand that D-D fusion is cumbersome and not what LENR should be if providing the advantages often advocated here. Lennart Thornros On Nov 25, 2016 8:12 AM, "Brian Ahern" <ahern_br...@m

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

. It is not. It has one thing in common with communism; it is hard to implement. Widen your horizon and find this as a part of a future LENR society. Lennart Thornros On Nov 24, 2016 8:59 PM, "Brian Ahern" <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote: Is this a technical discussion group or: A bun

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

Very well explained Alain. Lennart Thornros On Nov 24, 2016 07:21, "Alain Sepeda" <alain.sep...@gmail.com> wrote: > UBI can be implement in many way. > Libertarians/Liberalist/FreeMarketFan promote a vision that is intended > to replace charity, yet to keep uncondition

Re: [Vo]:More on automation and Martin Ford

ld be part of the GOP program. I think they just do not see the issues. Neither do you I guess. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) O

RE: [Vo]:LENR INFO< VISIT OF ROBERT COOK, 1MEGA-pageviews

Hello everyone Just wanted to express my agreement about that Peters blog has great value and he provides insight to issues that finally will be required to a successful LENR In addition Peter has compassion openness and treat everyone with respect. Good job Peter Lennart On Oct 9, 2016 14:10,

Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

One should not judge without all info. One does not need to believe that AR has anything, but 'we sure as hell should' give him the right to prove himself before judgement. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire

Re: [Vo]:I am fighting for the right to think differently

Jed You asked; Who are you fighting? Who prevents you from thinking differently? Somtimes a question becomes A great answer. This reveals an enormous naive mindset. It also explains your inability to see that the truth has many appearances sometimes in conflict but true. Thanks for explaining

Re: [Vo]: Mats Lewan on LENR theory

Jed, Nobody has proven anything and you jump to conclusions. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 8:12

Re: [Vo]:LENR- Doors to open/close to what?

anything only people can create result. That is by definition. In my opinion it would be better that we had a more flexible society than we have in most countries I have experience from. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently

Re: [Vo]:Another motion filed in Rossi suit

Craig, I like your analysis. Therefore I think any statements in regards to technial,legal and moral status is very disturbing. Personal judgment based on the situation is just slander. I am not a betting man, but I think the odds are reversed. On Jul 4, 2016 20:13, "Craig Haynie"

Re: [Vo]:Another motion filed in Rossi suit

face for a long time. I can for my life not understand why you put so much prestige on line for an issue - you have no 100 percent clearity. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically

Re: [Vo]:Another motion filed in Rossi suit

proclaiming the IP is useless. That follows the old rule of eating the cake and still have it :) Does not work. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come

Re: [Vo]:LERNR and Evil, some info

Che How did you become a pro? Reading a book? That goes a long way, but in the end it is like in science the experience of physical experiment is what counts. Then you will find there are many opinions and in my book they are all ok. Seldom are we 100% right. On Jun 24, 2016 21:30, "Che"

Re: [Vo]:LERNR and Evil, some info

also been able to see different formats of communism. As I know he has seen other government formats as well and has a better position to have opinion than most of us. Che, do not know your background but . . . . .. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

No Jed, My morals or ethics require more than rumor before I make such very serious acqusations. I do not know Rossi. Investors need to do their due diligence. I do not need to tell them that and I doubt your advice will weigh very heavy. Rossi's performance will. I agree with you we do not need

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

and that is hardly good enough. Far from mindless and fully ethical until anything else is proven. Some people do not think they stink so they accuse others - truth is we all stink more or less. Ashamed, did not know you had that word might come in handy. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

diligence before any money change hands. Wait and see. Speculations will not bring clarity. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

we mostly agree on and have seen over the years. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 8:54 AM, H LV

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

to be disappointed if he did not achieve the numbers he has claimed.I admit there are several not so clear messages from Rossi but that is to be expected. It is too little info to make judgement. Wait and see. The reality is what it is and the value in labeling people is close to zero. Best Regards , Lennart

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

taker, he believes he has something and he is only taking support from other risk takers. That is far from being an idiot. Regardless of the outcome. On Jun 3, 2016 19:50, "Jed Rothwell" <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.co

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi Saga Part 1

No, Jed. There are no facts. You have decided the outcome and then you make statements based on facts you say are secret. The labeling of people is totally unsubstantiated and very biased plus unnecessary rude. Wait and see or substantiate your claims. IH has not played there hand very wisely,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

Jed, Get of your high horses. You claim btter information than anyone else. You do not share data. You do not share source. You admit bias in favor o ih. Then you get upset when you don't have support for your conclusions. Your message is just a copy of ih. They might be right then you also. Let

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

Daniel that did not make it clear to me. I can take critic. I just think throwing rocks when you sit in a glasshouse is less than smart. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

Steven, I wish I had Hanks ability to express myself. Fun - did not see the connection though. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

Jed, how come you can repeat your statements but so not have t o verify anything or tell the whole story because some lame excuse. You basically say that you think your horseshit does not smell. On May 23, 2016 18:28, "Jed" wrote: > "a.ashfield"

Re: [Vo]:1 MW of heat in a 6,500 sq. ft. facility without industrial ventilation would be fatal

that makes sense. Although you do not say which info you have. You just say others are a little stupid or full-blown idiots for even questioning your statements. It is a wonderful world. It is totally surrounded by mirrors. Only showing the glory. religion comes to mind. Best Regards , Lennart

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

No Jed, My motto is ,there is always two possibilities. I an sure you have found the only thing that contradict that statment. You may have inside information but you have claim for having THE answer. On May 21, 2016 13:32, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: H LV

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

No Jed I do not know the results. I know not to spout firm controversial judgment. the without support. I am sure you know. I am less sure of you judgment, based on your vague bak up of your statements On May 20, 2016 17:29, "Jed Rothwell" <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Len

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

Jed, if I had nothing I should say nothing. Vague data and very mean conclusion. There is no win in that behavior regardless of if you are right or wrong. Just reflects back on you. On May 20, 2016 16:45, "a.ashfield" wrote: > Jed, > I have not seen any convincing proof

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

But Jed, if you have the data why do you advice me to ask Rossi instead of just sending them. On May 20, 2016 15:16, "Jed Rothwell" <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: > >> Show me and the all Vortex and we might j

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

Show me and the all Vortex and we might just agree. Just sitting there telling a bunch of smart people how it is makes no sense. Show it. On May 20, 2016 14:34, "Jed Rothwell" <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: > >

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

hwell" <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: > > No, it is not real proof, but it is far better reasoning than IH reason to >> not pay only has one explanation ; the ecat does notwork. >> > > Perhaps I.

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

and live the rest of his life in peace. No, it is not real proof, but it is far better reasoning than IH reason to not pay only has one explanation ; the ecat does notwork. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

in this agreement. If they do not pick up the detailss then who to blaim.??? Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Thu, May 19

Re: [Vo]: I.H. is good at calorimetry but bad at doing business

y but it is not engineering. IMHO you have no right to call Rossi a scammer. To call him crazy is just bouncing right back in your face then.​ Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enth

Re: [Vo]: I.H. is good at calorimetry but bad at doing business

see if Rossi is such a darn good scam artist than he can sell his story to Hollywood (entrepreneurial thinking and still come out ahead. The LENR community is in no hurry (waited over 25 years) so they can throw him under the next bus when he is in Hollywood Best Regards , Lennart Thornros l

Re: [Vo]: I.H. is good at calorimetry but bad at doing business

time that elapses the more I am inclined to believe it is 90% psychology and 10% personality while from the beginning I had those numbers reversed. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe

Re: [Vo]: I.H. is good at calorimetry but bad at doing business

Jed, I am not going over all your statements. Your statements indicate that you have little understanding about business. It is seldom black and white. Yes, there is a standard of conduct between competitors in any industry, so in the community of investment companies. Your hang up on technical

Re: [Vo]: I.H. is good at calorimetry but bad at doing business

Yes, Alberto. That is why Jed's claims are so hard to buy. IH should have business acumen as most investment companion I have met with. On May 18, 2016 17:30, "Alberto De Souza" wrote: Based on what Jed said so far, I.H. is very good at calorimetry but very bad at

Re: [Vo]:Validity of E-Cat 1 MW plant test

Should have been 1 MW turbine. On May 16, 2016 19:00, "Lennart Thornros" <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: > I said to you, Jed, that I think my suggested usage is as valid as yours. > BTW I have a great deal of experience from this industry but not as an > engineer/oper

Re: [Vo]:Validity of E-Cat 1 MW plant test

. That is regardless if you are right or wrong. On May 16, 2016 18:47, "Jed Rothwell" <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: > Jed, there is nobody saying the heat is consumed in the building. > If it was not Florida I could sug

Re: [Vo]:Validity of E-Cat 1 MW plant test

Jed, there is nobody saying the heat is consumed in the building. If it was not Florida I could suggest that they used the heat to warm residential buuldings. The size of such a 'machine' would easily fit (a few pumps). I do not speculate but it is at least as realistic as 100 steam cleaners. None

Re: [Vo]:Validity of E-Cat 1 MW plant test

Jed, I think you take the prize. Mats has produced a report from interviewing one of the parties in the conflct. Insane and an idiot - maybe as Peter Gluck suggested you don't really mean what you say. It is a metaphor. I hope so. There are two interviews one by Mats with open references to whom

Re: [Vo]:LENR and the feline nature of the E-Cat

No Jed, I make no false statements. I make no statements at all, except thar you judge people based on poor basis and that you want to be believed based on confidential information. That you then attack others, for not swallow your conclusions without wondering about its credibility, is not above

Re: [Vo]:LENR and the feline nature of the E-Cat

Jed, You say that Gluck arguments are childish. You need a mirrot. Your statements,including label people as idiots, based on information you say is confidential, is of th e same level i heard in the sandbox many years ago. It is not a question of taking sides. IH have provided very little

Re: [Vo]:Re: Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

as they said to Jed. However, that might not be all there is to it. My indication is that they do not resolve the issue. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably

Re: [Vo]:Re: Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

is just BS, Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

Jed, Why the hell do you say what you are saying? You are disappointed. Well we all are. No Rossi is Rossi. He is an entrepreneur. He does thing others think are stupid. That is how entrepreneurs are. You make judgments with no knowledge or facts. Just your emotions. Best Regards , Lennart

Re: [Vo]:Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

the issue. No, Jed the lawsuit will resolve nothing for LENR and will just tie up everybody's resources to no avail. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come

Re: [Vo]:Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

they have done to resolve the situation. Just a little bit I think it weighs in Rossi's advantage, that they cannot resolve the situation.. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act

Re: [Vo]:Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

Hi Jed, I actually said that negotiations maybe under way. I certainly cannot prove the negative so here is what I said. "Maybe it is underway in a silent format.". Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire,

Re: [Vo]:Let's continue to think about passive vs active approach to LENR 's existentil problems

in a silent format. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>

Re: [Vo]:Re: great paper by Ed Storms, quarrel, a bit of info

to a pro (who does not need to know anything about the topic). Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:19 PM

Re: [Vo]:cold fusion class action

not have to pay those lawyers. Maybe you can get an ambulance chaser to sue on behalf of everybody(class action) on contingency. Good Luck (as they say in Vegas.) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]: Rossi: 1MW Plant Customer Bought Three More Plants

has that right. I agree with you Francis that IH is not the customer at any time. It has to be a substantial entity if they can order three more and the result must be good. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, since

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