Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2021-10-17 Thread Axil Axil
more... The means to extract energy from a Higgs mode system is to destroy the coherence in the system to harvest the energy created by the Higgs mechanism. Think of an alternating current where power is not realized unless there is movement of electrons in the wire. So too with magnon

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2021-10-16 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding: "progress in understanding the Manelas mechanism" Condensed matter science has a property within the phenomena of superconductivity and anisotropic quantum magnets called "Higgs mode". This mode is the keystone to unlocking the energy contents of space/time because it allows bubbles

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-11 Thread Axil Axil
The Manelas billet alternated between magnetic and non magnetic behavior, thus producing a current produced by changing magnetic flux. On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Brian Ahern wrote: > > More

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-11 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Brian Ahern wrote: More needs tobe said but there is some new physics at work in the Manelas > billet. Just because it's fun to call things ahead of time, I will venture that the Manelas device induced some kind of beta decay/electron

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-03 Thread Brian Ahern
one...@pacbell.net> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 4:28 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon But the reality of the situation is that if a battery works, a capacitor of the same storage capacity ought to work as well (or better due to less internal resi

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-03 Thread Chris Zell
I dunno about equivalence between a battery and a capacitor. Correa (PAGD device) argued vigorously that he was forced to use batteries for practical reasons. He would exchange HV battery packs between input and output over and over again while rebuilding charge.

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-03 Thread Jones Beene
But the reality of the situation is that if a battery works, a capacitor of the same storage capacity ought to work as well (or better due to less internal resistance). Therefore, when the cap does not perform as well, we have a "teachable moment" and can try to identify the culprit, which is

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-03 Thread Axil Axil
According to the cookbook, an external power source like a battery is required to start the reaction going. This may be way a capacitor based storage system did not work. On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Whatever Sweet did or did not accomplish is now in

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-03 Thread Jones Beene
Whatever Sweet did or did not accomplish is now in the realm of fiction. No scientific proof exists today in the form of a working device, despite millions spent over the years. There were eye witnesses who were experts in circuits who saw it "working," but could not replicate it after years

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-03 Thread Chris Zell
I recall that Sweet described an incident in which the device went out of control into sort of a whooshing tornado before it was shut down. This is way – out – there but has anyone ever heard of a strange story ( from Steven Mark) in which a TV set had its deflection coil circuit go out of

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-03 Thread Axil Axil
This battery theory does not make sense, The Sweet system worked with power coming off the grid. Sweet plugged his frequency generator into a wall socket, no batteries involved. The difference between the Sweet system and the Mamalas system is the billet type. The billet for strontium has a

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-03 Thread Jones Beene
One detail not mentioned, or not emphasized adequately is this: The Manelas and Sweet devices, if they have real energy gain at all, only show that gain with a large capacity battery array in the circuit. The Manelas device does not work with capacitors only and cannot close the loop without

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-03 Thread Axil Axil
The one datum that speaks against this skepticism about magnetic based overunity is the testimony of Brian Ahern who has tested this type of system for years and found it to be true. Brian Ahern is a serious man and is very sensitive to scamming. The superparamagnetism mechanism fits too well

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-03 Thread Chris Zell
The MEG (Bearden) attempts this switching of flux and has not been demonstrated to be overunity, as far as I know. Probably just measurement errors from apparent vs real power. I think the way forward would be to examine the peculiar shape or form of the engineered permanent magnetic field

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-02 Thread Bob Higgins
about >>> them. I provided $1500 worth of bifilar magnet wire at 20 and 22 gauge, >>> >>> Can anybody suggest the relation to either cooling or excess energy? >>> -- >>> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-02 Thread Axil Axil
..@msn.com> wrote: >> >>> I do not understand the bifilar circuit, but Manelas really cared about >>> them. I provided $1500 worth of bifilar magnet wire at 20 and 22 gauge, >>> >>> Can anybody suggest the relation to either cooling or excess energy? >>>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-02 Thread Axil Axil
uggest the relation to either cooling or excess energy? >> -- >> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 2, 2017 1:46 AM >> *To:* vortex-l >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon >> >>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-02 Thread Bob Higgins
2, 2017 1:46 AM > *To:* vortex-l > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon > > From this VTA cookbook, the output coil was said to be a bifilar coil to > eliminate any magnetic influence from the output current. How would this > coil be setup, as show in the diagram belo

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-02 Thread bobcook39923
-Francois Leitner; jeff driscoll; Robert Yahn; mitch swartz; larry forsley Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon A change in entropy (decrease) as measured by order of the various coherent nano systems would produce cooling of the aggregate system of nano particles. Bob Cook From: Brian

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-02 Thread bobcook39923
; mitch swartz; larry forsley Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon I do not understand the bifilar circuit, but Manelas really cared about them. I provided $1500 worth of bifilar magnet wire at 20 and 22 gauge, Can anybody suggest the relation to either cooling or excess energy

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-02 Thread bobcook39923
:44 AM To: vortex-r...@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon This sounds like we are moving towards an understanding that should be testable. I have: 1. signal generator 2. oscilloscope 3. Manelas billet (wrapped) 4. Manelas solenoid with nanopowdered iron filings

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-02 Thread Brian Ahern
; Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 1:46 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon >From this VTA cookbook, the output coil was said to be a bifilar coil to >eliminate any magnetic influence from the output current. How would this coil >be setup, as show in the diagram

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-01 Thread Axil Axil
>From this VTA cookbook, the output coil was said to be a bifilar coil to eliminate any magnetic influence from the output current. How would this coil be setup, as show in the diagram below? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil [image: Inline image 2] On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:38 PM,

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-01 Thread bobcook39923
transitions for a match. BobCook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David Roberson Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 8:43 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon Could this process be similar to the situation where positive feedback and a small input can

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-01 Thread David Roberson
1, 2017 1:43 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon I have tried to understand the wiki article on Superparamagnetism... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superparamagnetism It seems to me that the level of Superparamagnetism can be adjusted in such a way that a weak magnet

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-03-01 Thread Brian Ahern
like this crowd approach to moving the Manelas technology forward. I will be happy to observe cooling. From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 1:43 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon I have

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-28 Thread Axil Axil
I have tried to understand the wiki article on Superparamagnetism... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superparamagnetism It seems to me that the level of Superparamagnetism can be adjusted in such a way that a weak magnetic field can be applied to a ceramic magnet which is highly superparamagnetic

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-28 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
The only UCAR I'm aware if is University Corporation for Atmospheric Research. https://www2.ucar.edu/ -mark From: Brian Ahern [mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon Who is UCAR

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-28 Thread Brian Ahern
Who is UCAR? From: bobcook39...@gmail.com <bobcook39...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:35 PM To: Axil Axil; vortex-l Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon bRIAN--- You may wantg to contact UCAR, who seems to have a good kno

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-28 Thread bobcook39923
scheme. Bob Ciook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Axil Axil Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:04 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon The goal is to duplicate the Manelas or Sweet magnet in order to run tests on the replicant. Replication is marked

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-28 Thread Axil Axil
@Brian Ahern I have asked Adam Smith is he could make the VTA billet conditioner described here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFarS-liuBY I he could, would you be interested in this product? On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > I found another billet

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-28 Thread Axil Axil
I found another billet source with more technical information...

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Axil Axil
The goal is to duplicate the Manelas or Sweet magnet in order to run tests on the replicant. Replication is marked by the creation of a liquid like mobile magnetic bubble with a boundary that is easily movable located at the center of the magnet. The assumption is that the preparation process is

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Brian Ahern
? From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:36 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon One huge advantage that Brian A has over all other replicators is that he has a working billet. As a systems engineer, what I do when reverse engin

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Axil Axil
What Don Wilson said about Sweet was meaningful. When Sweet prepared a barium ferrite billet, he did it in small steps removing magnetization one small bit at a time repeatedly over hours until Sweet got to the critical level that was optimal. It was Sweets goal to get the magnetic field right on

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Bob Higgins
On this rare occasion, I would have to agree with Axil. He wrote: *"I would map the magnetic field strengths over the entire face of the billet, front and back. I would NOT apply any magnetism to it for fear of changing something. Use only passive magnetic sensors."* Since the ferrite will have

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Axil Axil
>From the little that I have researched so far, Sweet was a transformer designer. The saw negative resistance is some of the transformer types that he encountered. Negative resistance is associated with the magnetic amplifier that was used as far back as WWI and it was also used in the V2 rocket.

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Chris Zell
If Manela followed Sweet’s thinking, what inspired Sweet in the first place? How did he arrive at this oddly splayed out magnetic field? Did he visualize a particular shape from a personal theory? Or was there simply a series of empirical findings that led to the result? I understand he was

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Axil Axil
---Original Message- > From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:29 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon > > Whenever purported "free energy" phenomena turn up with no apparent sou

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Axil Axil
-- > *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:18 PM > > *To:* vortex-l > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon > > Thinking about how to determine how the aforementioned magnetic bubble &

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Chris Zell
and Clem. So, the Sweet device also showed weight loss? Yes, that would follow the pattern here. -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:29 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-27 Thread Brian Ahern
:18 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon Thinking about how to determine how the aforementioned magnetic bubble behaves as follows: The boundary of the boarder of the bubble as described in my last post should be determined through experimentation in order to unde

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-26 Thread Axil Axil
s the material away from the desirable high >>>>> permeability small signal linear operating point in the B-H curve of the >>>>> material. When you begin putting really large signals into a ferrite the >>>>> material behaviors become complicated because, not on

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-26 Thread Axil Axil
odd >>>> behavior in such a complicated material. Sometimes when I look at the B-H >>>> curves for large signal excitation of a ferrite it reminds me of the >>>> temperature-entropy diagram. >>>> >>>> Regarding the magnetocalor

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-26 Thread Axil Axil
e >>> those exhibiting the "giant magnetocaloric effect" which include primarily >>> materials made with gadolinium. So, ferrite materials may exhibit some >>> MCE, but are not optimized for it. This suggests that MCE may be just a >>> side effect in the ferrite durin

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-26 Thread Axil Axil
t;> a primary component of the effect. Otherwise, why wouldn't you use a >> material with the giant MCE? >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:47 AM, <bobcook39...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Axil— >>> >>> >>> >>> IMHO you have fin

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-26 Thread Axil Axil
t; On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:47 AM, <bobcook39...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Axil— >> >> >> >> IMHO you have finally got the picture at least with respect to LENR. >> >> >> >> Bob Cook >> >> >> >>

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-26 Thread Bob Higgins
gt; > Bob Cook > > > > *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > *Sent: *Friday, February 24, 2017 3:47 PM > *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon > > > > Whenever we can get the spin of an atom to m

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-26 Thread bobcook39923
Axil— IMHO you have finally got the picture at least with respect to LENR. Bob Cook From: Axil Axil Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:47 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon Whenever we can get the spin of an atom to move: whenever we can get a spin to lose

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-24 Thread Axil Axil
Whenever we can get the spin of an atom to move: whenever we can get a spin to lose OR gain energy, that energy can be transferred to an electron with high efficiency. There are a number of ways that atomic spin can be excited: magnetocaloric where heat energy is transferred to the spin of an

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-24 Thread Jones Beene
Whenever purported "free energy" phenomena turn up with no apparent source of excess energy, there are a limited number of candidates which seem to rear their ugly heads. This only applies to LENR in the absence of real nuclear energy, but the nucleus can be part of a combined MO. In rough

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-24 Thread Axil Axil
of heat pumping. And, magnetic refrigeration obeys the thermodynamic >> laws. >> >> So Brian, did you notice any portion of the Billet and surrounding >> materials becoming warmer than the ambient? If not, you have a really >> interesting phenomena to pursue. &g

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-23 Thread Axil Axil
FYI : Y40 the trade name Y40 (Chinese nomenclature) are Ferrite & Ceramic magnets are comprised of a combination of iron oxide and strontium carbonate. Low cost, light weight, a relatively high energy product, and good resistance to demagnetization account for widespread use of Ferrite & Ceramic

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-23 Thread Brian Ahern
Dave -Original Message- From: Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2017 3:09 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon The magnetocaloric cooling

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
--- > *From:* MJ <feli...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 4:08 PM > > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon > > > Would it be the same if I glue together side-by-side nine squa

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Brian Ahern
eli...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 4:08 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon Would it be the same if I glue together side-by-side nine squared magnets but reversing the one at the center? Mark Jordan On 22-Feb-17 17:40, Brian Ahern

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2017-02-22 Thread Brian Ahern
Manelas worked along lines established by Sweet From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:42 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon http://www.rexresearch.com/sweet3/sweet3.htm

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
tice any portion of the Billet and surrounding > materials becoming warmer than the ambient? If not, you have a really > interesting phenomena to pursue. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Chris Zell
Anyone who manages to pull net energy from ambient and latent heat has encountered heresy (gasp !)

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2017-02-22 Thread David Roberson
com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2017 3:09 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon The magnetocaloric cooling keeps my interest high. From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:39 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.co

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2017-02-22 Thread MJ
:22 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon Brian, You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 1". Can you explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a "north pole" at each of the 4 corners with a common center so

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Chris Zell
] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon Brian, You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 1". Can you explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a "north pole"

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Brian Ahern
<rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon Brian, You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 1". Can you explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Bob Higgins
Brian, You previously said that the strontium ferrite block was 4" x 6" x 1". Can you explain how the 3 coils are wound to produce a "north pole" at each of the 4 corners with a common center south pole in the center? Are 2 of the coils wrapped around the block like wrapping a box with ribbon

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Brian Ahern
The magnetocaloric cooling keeps my interest high. From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:39 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon I swear to God if I ever stumble into an

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Brian Ahern
that the Manelas system worked and that we were not fooled. I just do not know how to proceed. From: Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:25 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon There is a

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Chris Zell
I swear to God if I ever stumble into anything overunity, I’m gonna rectify the bejeezus out of it. Pure DC in and pure DC out, none of this apparent power crap. Magnetic amps bring up Bearden’s MEG – which I don’t think ever worked. I suspect its output was apparent and not real, as above.

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Bob Higgins
There is a class of devices known as "magnetic amplifiers" that were used in the 40's and 50's as a reliable means of power control before the transistor became available. Somewhere I think I have a book or report on how these devices were designed and used. This device relied on the nonlinear

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Chris Zell
As a huge brainstorming leap here ( and I confess I may not fully understand concepts such as a Bose Condensate, for example) Is it possible that such devices are an imitation of something in the quantum world but momentarily existing in macro reality? A sort of 'full scale' atom or

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Brian Ahern
coming from the third winding. It is acting as a transformer that is extracting energy from the magnetic interactions. From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:27 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESC

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-22 Thread Chris Zell
I think we are approaching the critical point here -and if there is no remainder of a transmuted element or production of particles in use, then what are we left with? Sounds like Sherlock Holmes observation about ‘whatever remains, however incredible, must be true”. I would think that the

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Axil Axil
thur used fast rising pulses at 137 kHz. > > > -- > *From:* Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:55 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon > >

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Brian Ahern
ubject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon What happened to Manelas? Is he still alive? Are you still working with him? Has he shared the principles by which he built the device? On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>>

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2017-02-21 Thread Bob Higgins
What happened to Manelas? Is he still alive? Are you still working with him? Has he shared the principles by which he built the device? On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Brian Ahern wrote: > The billet did not stop making energy. He stopped it to re-build. There > was no

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Brian Ahern
uesday, February 21, 2017 5:14 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon >From what Brian Ahern said, the magnetic billet he used ran out of energy >after two years. If this depletion is the case, then there must be some >consumable involved in the power pro

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Axil Axil
>From what Brian Ahern said, the magnetic billet he used ran out of energy after two years. If this depletion is the case, then there must be some consumable involved in the power production process. It is my belief that there is a single cause for LENR. This cause involves transmutation and the

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Chris Zell
When all is said and done, wouldn’t it be true that there is a choice as to considering the primary source of these energies? Either you are removing energy primarily from nuclei – and thereby transmuting them into something else (which preserves energy conservation/TD) Or you’re removing

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Axil Axil
The MANELAS Phenomenon seems to be included in a family of overunity devices that are related to negative resistance. In electronics *negative resistance* (*NR*) is a property of some electrical circuits and devices in which an increase in voltage across the device's terminals results in a

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Brian please allow me to publish this in my blog. thanks, peter On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Brian Ahern wrote: > Excess energy and magnetic cooling seem to poke up every now and then. It > is difficult for even the most dedicated technologists to connect phonons >

[Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Brian Ahern
Excess energy and magnetic cooling seem to poke up every now and then. It is difficult for even the most dedicated technologists to connect phonons with magnons. I have had some unique experience with this interaction during my tenure as a Staff Sientist at USAF Rome Lab in Lexington MA. I