be
fascinating to see one like your simulations… are you aware of any (from
astronomers papers) that might be very non-circular?
-mark
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Noble
Look at this:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/gravitation/orbits/
the result is very similar to your simulations.
Thanks Michele.
Yes, I've generated simulations very similar to what is shown here. This
particular run looks to me as if the algorithm used 1/r^3 (a cube value) to
generate the
breaches in isotropy.
Fran
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From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:54 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine: inside piccy
Look at this:
http://www.fourmilab.ch
Hi Steven (SVJ) and Michele,
John Walker was very helpful to me in the early days of Autodesk.
In those days John was Autodesk.
We shared a strong interest in microcomputer based graphics.
I particularly like his short story Einstein, Heisenberg, and Tipler.
if it's in lenr.org
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: George Holz [mailto:geh...@optonline.net]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 9:26 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine: inside piccy
Hi Steven (SVJ) and Michele,
John Walker was very helpful to me in the early
“Quantum nonlocality is a bug.”
:-)
mic
2012/8/10 George Holz geh...@optonline.net:
Hi Steven (SVJ) and Michele,
John Walker was very helpful to me in the early days of Autodesk.
In those days John was Autodesk.
We shared a strong interest in microcomputer based graphics.
I particularly
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
“Quantum nonlocality is a bug.”
:-)
A real programmer would have called it an undocumented feature.
T
Terry sez:
A real programmer would have called it an undocumented feature.
Back in the mid 1980s, at the Space Astronomy Lab, University of
Wisconsin, where I worked as a ground support computer programmer, we
would just say: Everything is nominal.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry sez:
A real programmer would have called it an undocumented feature.
Back in the mid 1980s, at the Space Astronomy Lab, University of
Wisconsin, where I worked as a ground support computer
20 years, but I see that the last update of the web
site was last month.
George
-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:52 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine: inside piccy
Hi George,
Love
?
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From:
Axil Axil
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:00
PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma
Engine
John Rehner has done the same thing that Robert Godes founder of Brillouin
Energy has done; create
Now I remember... this website looks real familiar; I've seen it before.
http://www.rohnerengineering.com/
This Rohner family is a real piece of work... can anyone shed some light on
just who is right? Or since patents ran out, are they just trying to make the
other look bad so
From: Axil
These guys don't write things down, they use videos and interviews
to communicate, this makes research difficult.
I was under the impression that the coil is always active and is
not switched off and on.
J Rohner uses, Scandium at the tip of his anode for some reason.
The device is a high energy gas particle collider creating quantum
singularities (perceived as ball lightning) at the point of the high energy
collisions. Since Hawking radiation emits the full spectrum of visible
light, that is what they are seeing.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:33 AM, OrionWorks -
Addendum:
The fact that Nobel gasses are involved really baffles me. My limited
understanding of chemistry would suggest to me the fact that there shouldn't
be any kind of reactive chemistry involved, period. other than ionic
excitation such as what we see in neon signs.
What the hell is
This is not chemistry. It is high energy particle quantum physics. I
believe you can collide just about any gas particles and end up with a
collapsed singularity if you add enough energy at point and time of
collision. To minimize energy required, use a smaller vessel/voids(down to
quantum
From: Chemical Engineer
This is not chemistry. It is high energy particle quantum physics. I
believe you can collide just about any gas particles and end up with a
collapsed singularity if you add enough energy at point and time of
collision. To minimize energy required, use a smaller
The gas atoms, instead of fusing or reacting chemically are colliding and
collapsing into a point source due to high energy at the point of collision
and the effect of quantum gravity (which is much larger) at the quantum
level. This point source, or black hole radiates back to the
surroundings
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:46 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine: inside piccy
Addendum:
The fact that Nobel gasses are involved really baffles me. My limited
understanding of chemistry would suggest to me the fact that there shouldn’t be
any kind
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine: inside piccy
The gas atoms, instead of fusing or reacting chemically are colliding and
collapsing into a point source due to high energy at the point of collision and
the effect of quantum gravity (which
seek an
explanation.
First, we need to be sure that this thing is real.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:56 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine: inside piccy
This is not chemistry
Thanks for the layman's explanation, Chem. I think I actually
understood much of what you were trying to describe. Having performed
numerous computer simulations that loosely involve the rules
attributed to celestial mechanics I have on occasion experimented with
incorporating additional powers
Well,
Now that I have thought about it some more, if you look out into space and
see millions of galaxies rotating around singularities, within that
singularity is probably the last civilization in that part of the universe
that had a Quantum Singularity device operated by Rossi...
I hope that I
for your
observations. Thanks.
Dave
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From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 11:14 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine: inside piccy
Thanks for the layman's explanation, Chem. I think
Would you mind giving us a short preview of the higher
power effects you simulated. I did a similar thing once
and all I recall is that the second order drop with distance
was the only one that was stable in orbits. My simulation
was a bit crude at the time so I am asking you for your
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:01 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Check out:
http://test.orionworks.com/
Some of the images remind me of electron cloud orbits.
T
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From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:01 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine: inside piccy
Would you mind giving us a short preview of the higher
power effects you
Same thought I had Terry.
Dave
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From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine: inside piccy
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:01 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
[mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine: inside piccy
Would you mind giving us a short preview of the higher
power effects you simulated. I did a similar thing once
and all I recall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPY0skKjJU8feature=player_detailpage
Rohnermachine.com
Mike and John are the two Rohber brothers who are competing in the
development of the Papp engine. John is developing a two cylinder
horizontally opposed version of the engine. John does not demo his version
Axil,
In case you are familiar with the history of this, I have a few questions -
Who invited Papp to do the test at Cal Tech?
How long did the engine continue to work after the power was removed?
If so, could it have been running on battery, or some other storage unit?
Was any evidence found in
I am at the beginning of my study of the Papp effect so I will answer you
as I verity the info that is out there.
In the Tesla Video, McKubre said that Bob Rohner took the engine completely
apart in the middle of a demo and said it was totally clean of fraud.
The longest that Bob Rohner saw the
At 04:12 PM 8/8/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
A first hand eye witness to the Dr. Rickard P. Feynman ill
fated demo
said
Dr. Feynman actually kills that poor unlucky by-stander when he
pulled the
power plug which in tern disables the control electronics on the
Papp
engine and the engine
Feynman's account is at
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/comments/papparticle2.html
Infinite Energy description :
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/papp.html
Papp demonstrating his engine with a dynonometer :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wZqDQ7Pjg
On 9 August 2012 02:12, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
From a systems engineering standpoint, it is a far better energy system
than the Rossi reactor because high efficiency is possible without high
heat production.
Better, are you serious? This engine would immediately transform Earth
At 05:05 PM 8/8/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Feynman's account is at
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/comments/papparticle2.html
Infinite Energy description :
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/papp.html
Papp demonstrating his engine with a dynonometer :
Guys,
The energy from this device would come from the atomic gas ion collisions
in the approx 1 TeV to 8 TeV range and should produce singularities (ion
collapse) which quickly evaporate releasing nuclear energy. Just enough
and it will purr like a Schrodinger kitten. Too many singularities or
Guys,
The energy from this device would come from the atomic gas ion collisions
in the approx 1 TeV to 8 TeV range and should produce singularities (ion
collapse) which quickly evaporate releasing nuclear energy. Just enough
and it will purr like a Schrodinger kitten. Too many singularities or
You response confuses me.
Jouni said:
*Better, are you serious?*
Axil thinks:
You state the Rossi's reactor is superior in concept. True?
Journi said:
*This engine would immediately transform Earth Civilization into Star Trek
age (by 2014 into Type I and by 2050 even into Type II
Gravitational collapse is not the only process that could create black
holes. In principle, black holes could be formed in high-energy collisions
that achieve sufficient density.
As of 2002, no such events have been detected, either directly or
indirectly as a deficiency of the mass balance in
]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
Probably this is not real, because Rohner is religious and religion is
somewhat antithesis for being smart, creative and scientific. It is sad, but
that's the way it is. Same argument goes also for Rossi, btw.
, August 08, 2012 2:59 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPY0skKjJU8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPY0skKjJU8feature=player_detailpage
feature=player_detailpage
Rohnermachine.com
Mike and John are the two Rohber brothers who
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
I'm glad I watched that video to the end, because the first half brought back
bad memories!
I and many Vorts have been following the fringe sci/tech world for decades, and
the first half of this presentation was VERY poor
For the convenience of our readership at vortex I will post a rebuttal to
Dr, Feynman's account*.*
*http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/papp.html*
Feynman's Mistakes and the Recovery
But at the public meeting the next month at which the fatality occurred
(see the local
: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
You response confuses me.
Jouni said:
Better, are you serious?
Axil thinks:
You state the Rossi's reactor is superior in concept. True?
Journi said
, Francis X [mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:45 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
Mark,
I had similar apprehension but the demonstration itself was
pretty convincing -I don't think the energy consumption
not a real engine. What is that
issue?
I am not familiar with Papp engine technology so I am asking anyone who
can answer.
Jojo
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*From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:11 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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What purpose does the coil play? Creating an intense mag-field to align the
plasma ions?
The coil acts to center the plasma into the center of the cylinder, directs
- Original Message -
*From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:11 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
You response confuses me.
Jouni said:
*Better, are you serious?*
Axil thinks:
You state the Rossi's reactor
Axil wrote:
The coil acts to center the plasma into the center of the cylinder, directs
it into the center of the piston and away from its walls. This protects
walls from erosion. The coil also keeps charged particles: alpha, protons,
electrons confined inside the thin plasma channel.
Is
You
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:00 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
John Rehner has done the same thing that Robert Godes founder of Brillouin
Energy has done; create a nanoeceond high power elecric
Had to delete the 35KB picture in order for this to get posted.
Here is what we have so far:
1. Primarily just noble gases in a closed cylinder at low pressure (1
to several atm). They just bounce around, occasionally bouncing into each
other but no chemical nor nuclear reactions
From a John Rohner video regarding the geometry of the plasma.
The observation about the charge particles seems obvious to me as basic
plasma physics and comes from me.
Cheers: Axil
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:23 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote:
Axil wrote:
“The
These guys don't write things down, they use videos and interviews to
communicate, this makes research difficult.
I was under the impression that the coil is always active and is not
switched off and on.
J Rohner uses, Scandium at the tip of his anode for some reason. He also
uses four cathodes
, August 09, 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
John Rehner has done the same thing that Robert Godes founder of Brillouin
Energy has done; create a nanoeceond high power elecric pulse controller.
Like any engine, timing is all important. With proper timing the engine
janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:00 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
John Rehner has done the same thing that Robert Godes founder of Brillouin
Energy has done; create a nanoeceond high power elecric pulse controller.
Like any
Le Aug 8, 2012 à 5:58 PM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com a écrit :
The energy from this device would come from the atomic gas ion collisions in
the approx 1 TeV to 8 TeV range and should produce singularities (ion
collapse) which quickly evaporate releasing nuclear energy.
: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:31 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
Le Aug 6, 2012 à 7:00 PM, Axil Axil
janap...@gmail.commailto:janap...@gmail.com a écrit :
The video above is a demo of the reaction inside the cylinder of the papp
engine. You will note
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** **
Le Aug 6, 2012 à 7:00 PM, Axil Axil janap
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not fusion, you are witnessing a quantum black hole singularity
evaporating and emitting low energy photoms, quarks, etc. Stimulated by
electric arcs, lightning, emf, etc. Quantum gravity holds this together
That too!
On Tuesday, August 7, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Chemical Engineer
cheme...@gmail.comjavascript:;
wrote:
It's not fusion, you are witnessing a quantum black hole singularity
evaporating and emitting low energy photoms, quarks, etc. Stimulated
Agreed,
This is the same basic process and also related to
sonoluminescence but totally gaseous medium where the environment forms the
needed geometry and the catalytic gas through natural self assembly based on
the nature of the gases with changes in pressure. The gas
Axil,
I am not acquainted with this engine.
You wrote -
After several thousand hours the gases lose structure and their
elasticity.
Does this mean there are transmutations that change gas composition
Has anyone look at the ash (both gas and cylinder walls)?
Is there dielectric breakdown
*Does this mean there are transmutations that change gas composition*
The Papp engine produced a brown substance. Kettner believes that neon was
being transmuted. No transmutation information is released about the
Kettner engine.
The Papp engine is primitive and is substantively different in
A continuation of the video is at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkX69BA35_Afeature=player_embedded
Axil
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
*Noble Gas Plasma Engine *
In the 1980s, Joseph Papp was granted US Patent No. 3,670,494 for his
“Noble Gas Plasma
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BOwmDZX5Zgfeature=relmfu
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
A continuation of the video is at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkX69BA35_Afeature=player_embedded
Axil
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Axil Axil
The Rossi reactor is already obsolete.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=L7wZqDQ7Pjg
This video shows the Papp engine under a *dynamometer* test with narration
and introduction by Jimmy Sabori.
A high efficiency linear generator can be integrated into the design of
Axil,
I watched the videos you referenced.
If correct, the over-unity claims should be very easy to verify.
-- Lou Pagnucco
Axil wrote:
The Rossi reactor is already obsolete.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=L7wZqDQ7Pjg
This video shows the Papp engine under a
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
Axil,
I watched the videos you referenced.
If correct, the over-unity claims should be very easy to verify.
-- Lou Pagnucco
Axil wrote:
The Rossi reactor is already obsolete.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=L7wZqDQ7Pjg
10:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Noble Gas Plasma Engine
Axil,
I watched the videos you referenced.
If correct, the over-unity claims should be very easy to verify.
-- Lou Pagnucco
Axil wrote:
The Rossi reactor is already obsolete.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature
Axil,
I believe that light is from a quantum singularity evaporating while
feeding off your rydberg matter. A perfect e=mc2 engine. See my grand
unification theory of cold fusion just posted.
On Monday, August 6, 2012, Axil Axil wrote:
The Rossi reactor is already obsolete.
Joseph Papp:
Quantum singularities are either created in these events or WIMPS awaken
that consume matter and antimatter and can eject antimatter ions as well
as gammas. It is not fusion or lenr, it is the evaporation of the
singularity causing this. WL theory is wrong
On Tuesday, August 7, 2012, wrote:
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