[Vo]:The case for magnetism

2014-07-29 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2014-07-physicists-nature-high-temperature-superconductivity.html Physicists unlock nature of high-temperature superconductivity It's magnetism that eliminates the coulomb barrier that allows electrons to stick together and form cooper pairs found in superconductivity.

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Mills spectral evidences is pretty thorough and I can't understand that if true, it came from some other mysterious process. It match very well with the theoretical lines. It also looks like these fingerprints have been verified by third parties. But I can't find their reports for this at the

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Steve High
It occurred to me to consider the heat dissipation issue in terms of 100 watt incandescent light bulbs, acknowledging that most of the energy emitted from an incandescent bulb is in the form of heat. So how many 100 watt incandescent bulbs would be equivalent to the 15 megawatts of excess heat

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Steve High It occurred to me to consider the heat dissipation issue in terms of 100 watt incandescent light bulbs, acknowledging that most of the energy emitted from an incandescent bulb is in the form of heat. So how many 100 watt incandescent bulbs would be equivalent to the 15

Re: [Vo]:The case for magnetism

2014-07-29 Thread ucar
What if electron incorporate fast revolving magnetic dipole aka a rotating bar magnet in a range of Zitterbewegung frequency? So a steady magnet near to it will experience null or to little magnetic interaction depending the angle between the dipole axis and the rotating axis, however two

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com wrote: So how many 100 watt incandescent bulbs would be equivalent to the 15 megawatts of excess heat energy? My math tells me 150,000. Mill's engineers will need to come up with a way to disperse the heat of 150,000 100 watt bulbs from a one by one by one

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote: I just love these revisionist historians. Whatever is politically correct goes. Einstein did fail math when he was younger, but you won't find the truth googling, much like you won't find it in wikipedia. I have seen his report cards. You are

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Axil Axil
For nanoparticles, localized surface plasmon dipole oscillations can give rise to a large range of intense colors of suspensions or sols containing the nanoparticles. Nanoparticles and nanowires exhibit strong absorption and emission bands in the ultraviolet-visible light regime that are not

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Steve High
I realized this morning that I am mixing up the proposed final product with the proof of concept prototype that Mills says he can bring out in twenty weeks, which would have much less of a heat dissipation issue. Mea Culpa for that. Vortex is such an amazing sandbox to play in, gotta be real

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
It is not one spectral line Mills is showing, it's a battery that matches theory quite well. Now if we want to be critical consider, * Is it slightly above noise, was the shown spectral lines a one in a hundred or even worse spectral capture? * Is theory predicting hundreds of spectral lines and a

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Axil Axil
*It is not one spectral line Mills is showing, it's a battery that matches theory quite well. Now if we want to be critical consider,* The observation of the spectral line came first, then the theory was designed to fit that data. If the production of the nanostructures are consistent over time,

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Steve High
I think the 15 MW would be a continuous smoothed-out number related to the 10 MW of electric power that the proposed final product would emit On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com wrote: So how many 100 watt

RE: [Vo]:One Hot Little Number

2014-07-29 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Kevin, This is from an older thread, but the comment did not get through. Basically, it is this. What is wrong with a COP of 1.68 on the early rounds of development of a new technology? It is almost as if Vortex, with all the claims floating around, has become jaded by

[Vo]:Heat dissipation is a MINOR engineering issue in the Suncell.

2014-07-29 Thread Jojo Iznart
The issue of heat dissipation being the achilles heel of the suncell appears to be a persistent criticism on why the Suncell will not work commercially. I think this opinion is misinformed and this problem really is relatively easy to solve. The Suncell may fail based on some other issue -

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Axil Axil
The Sun Cell will produce a huge amount of RF. The wide spread deployment of the Sun Cell will be the end of the smart phone era. On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From Steve High It occurred to me to consider the heat

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Jojo Iznart
Come on my friend. It's these kinds of hyper-scarmongerism that causes LENR advocates to loose credibility. Is there any reason why the suncell can not be installed inside a rudimentary Faraday cage? Jojo - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent:

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Axil Axil
Its the same reason way the testers of Rossi's reactor must use a thermal camera to measure temperature. On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote: Come on my friend. It's these kinds of hyper-scarmongerism that causes LENR advocates to loose credibility.

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
No the assumptions is really not that parameterized. It was developed to fit the atomic data, the hydrino was a consequence of that theory that came after. the theory cannot have been adjusted after that, so there is no such parameters in the theory. But the theory can produce a lot of spectral

Re: [Vo]:Personal observataions about the part two BLP July 21 video

2014-07-29 Thread James Bowery
OK was I was able to adopt an unreasonably open posture toward Mills's presentation and spend time searching for the calorimetry in the demonstration videos. What I found was intriguing enough to bother to do a little more investigation and invest a bit of my personal credibility with a physicist

Re: [Vo]:The case for magnetism

2014-07-29 Thread ucar
Clarification: Although I mentioned electron on Coulomb barrier issue on LENR context, I am not sure about LENR model based on such a mechanism. -Original Message- From: ucar u...@verisoft.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014

Re: [Vo]:Personal observataions about the part two BLP July 21 video

2014-07-29 Thread mixent
In reply to James Bowery's message of Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:22:19 -0500: Hi James, [snip] OK was I was able to adopt an unreasonably open posture toward Mills's presentation and spend time searching for the calorimetry in the demonstration videos. What I found was intriguing enough to bother to do

Re: [Vo]:Personal observataions about the part two BLP July 21 video

2014-07-29 Thread Jojo Iznart
Welcome to the dark side :-) I, too was highly skeptical of BLP and hydrino until the most recent demos. To me, what was convincing were: 1. The Bomb Calorimetry. Absent an egregious attempt at fraud, I think the data is compelling. I think that any egregious fraud would easily be

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 2:26 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: Mills spectral evidences is pretty thorough and I can't understand that if true, it came from some other mysterious process. Perhaps it would help if we could move beyond generalizations and get concrete.

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: there is critiques stemming from not believing in hydrinos because the feel they must give up on QM, which perhaps is not true. Perhaps hydrinos and QM are not incompatible; for example, maybe they're

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps hydrinos and QM are not incompatible; for example, maybe they're dual, as you have suggested previously. This has puzzled me also. A single transition is 27.2 eV which is in the uV range not visible. Higher

Re: [Vo]:Personal observataions about the part two BLP July 21 video

2014-07-29 Thread James Bowery
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:53 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Why is this a miracle? Note that there are lots of Hydrino sizes, and therefore different sizes are likely to predominate under different circumstances. This could go a long way toward explaining the variability in CF experiments. In

Re: [Vo]:Heat dissipation is a MINOR engineering issue in the Suncell.

2014-07-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote: With the hydrino explosion reportedly with 10,000 suns concentration ... I have been trying to get a sense of what 10,000 suns would look like in the lab. I can only imagine it would be bright. I tried to get some

RE: [Vo]:The case for magnetism

2014-07-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
More evidence is mounting for a view I have posited for some years now. namely the dipole-like nature of subatomic 'particles'. UCAR, for a similar view, check out the 'Cordus conjecture'. The Cordus conjecture [8] proposes that every particle has two reactive ends, which are a small

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: I've always been a little uncomfortable with the way the testing done on behalf of BLP at Harvard-Smithsonian CfA is characterized. What I need to come clean with is that I've been a little unfair, here. Because it turns out that the University of California at Berkeley has provided

[Vo]:Some DGT news

2014-07-29 Thread Axil Axil
*http://www.greenstyle.it/defkalion-reattore-pronto-alla-fine-dellestate-e-nuova-joint-venture-americana-99057.html http://www.greenstyle.it/defkalion-reattore-pronto-alla-fine-dellestate-e-nuova-joint-venture-americana-99057.html* *Translated:* by *Guido Grassadonio

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Bob Higgins
I thought it was important to say more explicitly why I believe the Mills demo calorimetry may be flawed. I hope the enclosed diagram will come through to Vortex – I have seen others come through recently and I tried to make this a small image file. If it doesn’t come through, I apologize.

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-29 Thread Jojo Iznart
Bob, if you view the video where the calorimetry was being demonstrated, it appears that the heat was calculated from the temp rise. It seems to me that if there was Qcond being conducted out of the conductor, it was ignore. That means that the energy output was underestimated because Qcond