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On 17/03/2017 9:43 PM, bobcook39...@gmail.com wrote: >> "consciousness, . . . is a supernatural phenomenon." > RIGHT-ON. Like virtual quarks and spooky action at a distance, and > other real phenomena. I am surprised that you agreed so readily that telepathy between consciousnesses is a real

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On 17/03/2017 10:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > wrote: I don't think machines will be able to duplicate what a bird brain can do, any time, ever. Machines which we can invent are things that we can understand almost completely. I do not think

Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

Who 'delivers' the 4 atm? You really seem to be in trance. OK, tell it is fake but do not give pseudo-technical explanations. peter PS I have finished this uselesss discussion, I stil prefer logic. On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Peter Gluck

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Jones Beene wrote: > An ability to learn from an interactive network is the key - even if one > never gets out of cyberspace. Because the bird-brain-PC is essentially > tireless, working 24/7 it will be able to surpass the ability of the human > model for many tasks when

[Vo]:Re: Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

Hello The vapourpressure of water at 100 Celcius is 76 cmHg. At 103 Celcius the vapour pressure is 84.51 cm Hg = 1,112 atm Peter v Noorden From: Peter Gluck Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 8:59 PM To: VORTEX Subject: Re: [Vo]:Palladium cold fusion as an energy source Basta, signore! The

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In reply to 's message of Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:24:29 +0100: Hi, [snip] >Hello >The vapourpressure of water at 100 Celcius is 76 cmHg. >At 103 Celcius the vapour pressure is 84.51 cm Hg = 1,112 atm Note that in the Netherlands a "," is used as the decimal point. Regards,

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John Shop wrote: > > There is no solid evidence for it. Second, I am sure that if does exist, > it is natural, because so many other things people used to think are > supernatural or inexplicable turned out to be explicable. > > I am amazed that you have the gall to trot out

[Vo]:LENR populism and manipulation

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2017/03/mar-17-2017-lenr-about-populism-and.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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Here is an interesting look at the question: What is real intelligence and what is merely a mechanistic imitation of intelligence? To address this, I say let's look at colony of bees. Bees are amazing creatures. They build nests with complex structures. They harvest food from the surroundings.

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Long before the singularity of 2029, we should be seeing "proto-AI" machines of surprising capability, costing less than a ladies handbag (Hermes). By 2020 the market for this kind of alter ego could be huge, at least for the males who can avoid springing for the handbag. This kind of early

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Basta, signore! The manometer says- no obstacle, steam is condensed. peter On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Peter Gluck wrote: > > Who 'delivers' the 4 atm? >> > > Back pressure from the radiator. When you force a fluid

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Peter Gluck wrote: Who 'delivers' the 4 atm? > Back pressure from the radiator. When you force a fluid through a radiator (or heat exchanger) this raises the pressure of the fluid. It does not take much pressure to raise the boiling point of water above 103°C. See:

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John Shop wrote: All the advances that have been made are ones which can be imagined and > achieved with sufficiently advanced technology. However AFAIK all of our > great minds have so far failed to come to grips with consciousness and some > (eg Penrose) have

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On 18/03/2017 2:23 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: The fact is that almost every educated and intelligent person would regard telepathy as supernatural . . . First, I regard it as mythical, not supernatural. There is no solid evidence for it. Second, I am sure that if does exist, it is natural,

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Peter Gluck wrote: > Your last variant re Rossi's fake data was this; Exactly zero excess heat, > watermeter lying 4 Times more flow 103 C fluid water not trace of steam. > At 4 atm 103°C water is liquid without a trace of steam. 4 atm is not much. The back pressure

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Jed Rothwell wrote: AFAIK all of our great minds have so far failed to come to grips with consciousness The difficulty had been exaggerated. I don't think it is more than the ability of the brain to put together a 3D image of the local world and where you are in it. Plus things like sound,

[Vo]:Re: Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

Robin That is correct Peter -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: mix...@bigpond.com Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 9:31 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Palladium cold fusion as an energy source In reply to 's message of Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:24:29

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On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: The colony as a whole exhibits far more intelligence than one individual > bee does. ... The nature of bee colony intelligence is totally alien to > human intelligence. > Perhaps. But there is at least one way that

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An application of AI that I think will be possible in the near-term future, if there are not already people working on it: lie detection. There is a school of behavioral psychology that believes that people's behavior changes in subtle ways that betrays them when they knowingly tell a lie, even

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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: In the 1950s many books and cartoons portrayed robots of the future as > being similar to people, walking on two legs with faces and hands. > The robots from Boston Dynamics are certainly a bit scarier than humanoid

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Aha, the thread about a time-table for the AI "singularity" moves on to morphic resonance - my favorite counter-argument to the "bird brain" stance... which posits that the current state of AI is far from human-like. It is closer than many of us think with only a few improvements. Morphic

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Excellent, from now on, if I see ads for investing in PD D I will know they are not by you. As regarding NiH we willl see. I suppose you have called main author Nakamura from NISSAN and asked him what he thinks about NiH. Your last variant re Rossi's fake data was this; Exactly zero excess heat,

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Jed, you ignore with easiness the reproducibility problem Cna you tell me the rtae of success NOW say at SKINR, ENEA, Coolescence and others? Re the ERv report it has 60 pages, you have seen 352 daily reports not 8448 hourly ones and not the results for 506880 minutes (approx) When the

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On 17/03/2017 2:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: . . . I see no reason why this will not happen sooner or later. Machines are far from being able to do this now, because they have brains roughly the size of a bird's brain. Birds do not understand human language. . . . So I believed until quite

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Peter Gluck wrote: > you ignore with easiness the reproducibility problem > I did not ignore it. I stated clearly that this is predicated on controlling the reaction. I said "Assumption. With Pd-D 200 W/g can be achieved, at any desired temperature up to the melting

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wrote: “I don't think machines will be able to duplicate what a bird brain can do, > any time, ever. Machines which we can invent are things that we can > understand almost completely. > I do not think there is rigorous proof of this. On the contrary, decades ago,

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“I don't think machines will be able to duplicate what a bird brain can do, any time, ever.  Machines which we can invent are things that we can understand almost completely.  However consciousness, even animal consciousness, is something we will never understand sufficiently to create it,