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would enjoy visualizing this as movement but that’s just my leaning. From: bobcook39...@gmail.com [mailto:bobcook39...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:20 PM To: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT T

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...@gmail.com <bobcook39...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 11:25 AM To: Chris Zell; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Brian— I also thought there might be a connection between the Manelas device and Dragone theory. Again the possi

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COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE From: bobcook39...@gmail.com [mailto:bobcook39...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 1:56 PM To: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Chris- I have understood that p

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Chris Zell wrote: ... and if the Stromerzeuger device could be replicated, we’d all be in fat city. Replication requires a specialty iron for the many magnetic solenoids. That purity of iron is not being made these days but it was available back then from Sweden. It might be possible to buy

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(thinking this through…….) If you attribute the excess energy to a withdrawal from electron spins….. does conservation of energy apply? I recall an article in Infinite Energy magazine in which physics, as taught, seems to do a ‘workaround’ as to spin energy when calculations are done –

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Has Cyril Smith or anybody ever replicated the Coler devices? I’ve never heard of that happening – and if the Stromzeuger device could be replicated, we’d all be in fat city.

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From: bobcook39...@gmail.com [mailto:bobcook39...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 1:56 PM To: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com>; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Chris- I have understood that phonons are “virtual” par

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And there is yet another level of sadness in the more general subject of "battery powered circuits" especially when these are found in a situation of mixed AC and DC which is the situation where nearly instant recharge can be engineered by parameters such as pulse width. It is possible that

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entities and electrons. ) Bob Cook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Chris Zell Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 9:35 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE I do recall Wingate Lambertson  - a scientist/expert on cermet products.  Odd semi

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: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 1:10 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Unfortunately, the bullet-proof case for net energy gain was not made at the time. There is apparent gain, but not proved gain

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Unfortunately, the bullet-proof case for net energy gain was not made at the time. There is apparent gain, but not proved gain. Brian Ahern ran the test for many days using a very high capacity battery array. At the end of the test, the battery pack appeared to be fully charged, but there's

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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 12:14 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Another overlapping mechanism to add into the mix for the Manelas effect, which is probably a "Maxwell's Demon&qu

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ailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 11:14 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Chris Zell wrote: If I google "phonons as an energy source", nothing in particular comes up. If we are identifying them as the lik

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..@gmail.com> [mailto:bobcook39...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 9:35 AM To: MJ <feli...@gmail.com<mailto:feli...@gmail.com>>; vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Dragone discussed the

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Another overlapping mechanism to add into the mix for the Manelas effect, which is probably a "Maxwell's Demon" in its own special way is related to the organizing mechanism mentioned by Chris... and it has a name: Doppler cooling Doppler cooling usually involves photons with frequency tuned

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stability. The temperature differential is then used to make a useful voltage. Bob Cook From: Chris Zell Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 8:05 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE If I google “phonons as an energy source”, nothing

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Chris Zell wrote: If I google “phonons as an energy source”, nothing in particular comes up. If we are identifying them as the likely source of excess energy within a barium/strontium ferrite structure, I would think that someone somewhere has thought about cohering them into useful

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we create a particular motion that gives us a gain from 'straightening out' random motion..? From: Brian Ahern [mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 10:06 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE I am

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.com>; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Dragone discussed the idea of decreasing entropy (increasing order of matter) as a an effect of the magnetic device he described. That may include better nuclear order. Another interesting item

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<feli...@gmail.com>; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Dragone discussed the idea of decreasing entropy (increasing order of matter) as a an effect of the magnetic device he described. That may include better nuclear order. Another interestin

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/DragoneAnalysis.pdf Bob Cook From: MJ Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:25 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE     Leon Dragone also observed the cooling effect related to magnetism:     http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/Dossiers/EM/Leon

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So the restoring force may be a quantum mechanical process that works under subtle conditions. Um. I am forced to wonder if this explanation is similar to skeptic Victor Stenger's rejection of quantum entanglement - when he suggested "de-coherence" as the alternative. An elegant

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; Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE If a specially shaped magnetic field can drop the temperature of an apparatus, shouldn’t we conclude that random motion (heat) is somehow being converted into directed,

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: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 3:02 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE If a specially shaped magnetic field can drop the temperature of an apparatus, shouldn’t we conclude that random

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to:dlrober...@aol.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:42 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE > > > > When a hot object radiates IR into space the temperature also drops. > Perhaps there is a low freque

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[mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:42 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE When a hot object radiates IR into space the temperature also drops. Perhaps there is a low frequency form of magnetic coupling that can

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most conditions. Dave -Original Message- From: Chris Zell <chrisz...@wetmtv.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 3:02 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE If a specially shaped magnetic field can drop the

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If a specially shaped magnetic field can drop the temperature of an apparatus, shouldn’t we conclude that random motion (heat) is somehow being converted into directed, useful motion? That Maxwell’s Demon has been found?

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? I recall that Ken Shoulders had a legal way around having his patents suppressed. From: Chris Zell<mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 9:12 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS A

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AE > > > > The description of the Manelas device is extremely similar to the Sweet > device. And like that device, there seems to be a mystery about how an > oddly magnetized slab worked – or how it was created. In Sweet’s case, it > was barium ferrite, I recall. > > > > *Fro

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product—wind turbans and other power production lines. (This is similar to the fate of LENR over the last 27 years.) Bob cook From: Chris Zell Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 9:12 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE The description

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this MAGNETOCLORIC event happens. > > > -- > *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2017 8:20 PM > *To:* vortex-l > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE > > More... > > The Mandela bullot is flat and square w

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[mailto:bobcook39...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 12:07 PM To: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>; vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Brian— The cooling effect is unexpected. It seems that it may be a reversal of the 2nd Law of T/

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magnetic voltage source analogous to the well known thermal electric effect. Bob Cook From: Axil Axil Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 5:20 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE More... The Mandela bullot is flat and square with a large surface area

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com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Mon, Feb 13, 2017 6:28 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE The Billet is 1" x 4" x 6" and has four North poles at the corner and a South pole in the center. The most important physics is th

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C event happens. From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 8:20 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE More... The Mandela bullot is flat and square with a large surface area. This flat topology with a large surf

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Brian— Thanks for those very pertinent references . The LENR dots are coming together I think; maybe coupled by magnetism? Bob From: Brian Ahern Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 3:28 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE The Manelas billet

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More... The Mandela bullot is flat and square with a large surface area. This flat topology with a large surface area might permit a maximum of magnetic dipoles to form on the surface of the Mandela bullot. I would like to know what type of gas filled the black box...is it protium or deuterium or

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[image: Inline image 1] The Manelas Device functional diagram On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > It might be that the pulsed current of the 137 kilohertz square wave input > current produces a magnetic dipole with a large instantaneous power factor >

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It might be that the pulsed current of the 137 kilohertz square wave input current produces a magnetic dipole with a large instantaneous power factor because the current is produced by a square wave like the Brillouin method. The 24 volt constant current also produces heat and the strontium

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The Manelas billet is strontium ferrite and is very high electrical resistivity. This eliminates eddy currents as a loss mechanism From: Axil Axil Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 6:18 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK