newbie questions... What is the advantage of the fact that IDs must be
unique on a page? I am aware of the circumstance that if you need to
repeat an ID, set is as a class, but have still not figured out the
advantage of an ID.
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:40:49 -0500, Trusz, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
newbie questions... What is the advantage of the fact that IDs must be
unique on a page?
1. getElementById() works.
2. Validation. If you use div id=maincontent, validator will complain
when you have two or more such
You can address elements from the DOM (Document Object Model) directly via
JavaScript.
Cheers,
Mike Pepper
Accessible Web Developer
Internet SEO and Marketing Analyst
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http://www.visidigm.com
Administrator
Guild of Accessible Web Designers
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Angela,
Your suggestion is for input type=text. It does not work for input
type=file. See shots attached produced by the following style:
div#Attachment {width: 600px;background-color:yellow;border: 1px solid black;}
#txtAttachment {width:400px;background-color:red;text-align: right;}
Cheers,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kornel Lesinski
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:09 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Not and IE bug?...follow up difference why a difference
between IDs and classes?
newbie questions... What is the advantage
Irina,
Am Freitag, 4. Februar 2005 um 05:50:36 haben Sie geschrieben:
IA Does anybody knows how to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?
Take a look at the form.css in res under your firefox installation
directory. There you will find the following styling:
/* file selector */
Title: Message
Hello
all,
I have a page, http://www.m5i.com/m5hr/test.php,
with a scroller but the links do not work in MAC IE 51, anyone have any
ideas?
Thanks in
advance,
Paul
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:06:04 -0330, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
I have a page, http://www.m5i.com/m5hr/test.php, with a scroller but the
links do not work in MAC IE 51, anyone have any ideas?
Fix these problems first:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.m5i.com/m5hr/test.php
G'day
Paul wrote:
I have a page, http://www.m5i.com/m5hr/test.php, with a scroller but the
links do not work in MAC IE 51, anyone have any ideas?
Just one idea... Run the page through the W3C validator and fix
any errors. Not trying to be a wise-guy, but if you feed the
browser broken (x)HTML,
Thanks Peter, I'll check it out!
On 9-Feb-05, at 5:12 PM, Peter Asquith wrote:
Hi Peter
Peter Flaschner wrote:
Well, the clearing didn't do it. At least not as I understand it.
If you're following the lead of the page you mentioned, you will find
removing the
overflow: hidden;
line from
Russ,
My thought exactly! Depending on the font, there are times when it is
difficult to determine, at first glance, where sentences begin and end.
By the way, I still use a double space at the end of a period as we were
taught this in grammar and writing classes, not typing! ;-)
Suzanne
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Russ,
My thought exactly! Depending on the font, there are times when it is
difficult to determine, at first glance, where sentences begin and end.
By the way, I still use a double space at the end of a period as we
were
taught this in grammar and writing classes, not
Possibly so, but is an architect being given the short straw by being
required to include ramps and elevators in the design of a building? It
has to be done because of the 'shortcomings of my assistive technology,
my wheelchair, that cannot climb stairs or levitate.
I agree that better browser
At 10:37 AM -0600 2/10/05, Christopher M Kelly wrote:
Possibly so, but is an architect being given the short straw by being
required to include ramps and elevators in the design of a building?
The issue is to force companies to make
software/hardware better. Something that is
physically
With respect Christopher, I think you're missing the point. To take your
analogy further, it seems to me that making web designers emsolelyem
responsible for dealing with accessibility is like telling architects
they're off the hook with regard to ramps etc, and getting the decorators to
carry the
I'm looking for feedback regarding a CSS hack I came up with recently.
http://www.pupinc.com/files/test/float.html
The goal is to force entire boxes, not just their content, to flow
around any adjacent floated content. My method works fairly well for
the browsers I'm able to test, but I'm
Surely, the argument against the double space is only a short step away from
it's logical extension: don't have paragraphs either, just have continuous
text . . .?
The logic behind both is surely the same?
Bob McClelland,
Cornwall (U.K.)
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:52:54 -, designer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Surely, the argument against the double space is only a short step away from
it's logical extension: don't have paragraphs either, just have continuous
text . . .?
The logic behind both is surely the same?
No. The logic
Hello -
I am very new to this list, but frequent the CSS-Discuss list. Any
reason why the text is sliding below the lower DIV on this site?
www.fluxxlife.com/
I believe it is because the postion is set to absolute and not relative,
but I'm not sure.
thanks BJ Cook
designer wrote:
What exactly is the position?
Opera's zoom-feature is nice - and useful, but comes more as an addition
provided in that browser. IE6 can also zoom pages, but not that
user-friendly. We may want browsers to have useful features like this,
but that's not what we want first and most
Giving users a reasonable time to upgrade to the latest-- and hopefully
best-- version of the browser of their choice, and then simply
forgetting to code for the older versions, is one way we can push (a
little) where it matters.
Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner!
--
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Tom Livingston
Hi Jesse:
I think it depends on which Peoplesoft application you're asking about and
what version it is. If you want to write to me offlist, I can put you in
touch with a colleague at State Farm that does a lot of their web site
accessibility testing of Peoplesoft and all the other apps that
This is more of a philosophical question than a technical question,
but here's the background. As we probably all know:
* floated elements too big for the enclosing element spill out
* except on IE, where they stretch the enclosing element
that's a bit simplified, but essentially correct,
I believe that it is because floated elements are removed from the document
flow just like absolutely positioned elements are. So the rest of the
elements on the page, including the containing element, literally can't see
the floated element. If they can't see it, then they can't accommodate its
Because there's such a mix of opinions about the value of double-spacing
between sentences and its history, I asked my friend John D. Berry,
typographer book designer of note, to give me the low-down on
double-spacing to post to this list.
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At 01:50 PM
great comments thus far, but i think we're getting into the area where
things are being said twice or getting into wy too fine a point.
when exactly does this thread get closed?
r
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From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Friday,
THREAD CLOSED
Thanks, Paul, for the very detailed information.
However, as Richard has said, all opinions will have now been covered. The
thread has run a very long and winding course.
So, no more on this thread please!
Thanks
Russ
great comments thus far, but i think we're getting into
Paul Novitski wrote:
Because there's such a mix of opinions about the value of double-spacing
between sentences and its history, I asked my friend John D. Berry,
typographer book designer of note, to give me the low-down on
double-spacing to post to this list.
Hi there,
I am not too sure where else to ask about this. I have recently been part of
discussions about the Peoplesoft application that we and many Universities
use (not my fault) and its adherence to accessibility recommendations, and
web standards. Peoplesoft claims to adhere to section
Hi all,
Jumping in on all these architectural analogies... nobody seems to
have made this point: ultimately EVERYONE has some level of
responsibility, since everyone is and will remain involed.
Let's continue the analogy, for a new building:
1) The government sets out physical access
John Horner wrote:
* floated elements too big for the enclosing element spill out
* except on IE, where they stretch the enclosing element
that's a bit simplified, but essentially correct, right?
Right.
For instance, with this code:
div style=width:300px;height:100px;border:1px solid black;
My site ( http://www.feaverish.com ) looks as it should in Safari,
Mozilla/Firefox, and IE 5/Mac. However, IE/Win produces strange gaps in
the layout. My entire CSS is at (
http://www.feaverish.com/wp-layout_book.css ), but it is basically 3
divs inside a larger containing div. The three
John Horner wrote:
* floated elements too big for the enclosing element spill out
* except on IE, where they stretch the enclosing element
that's a bit simplified, but essentially correct, right?
My question is, *why* is the correct behaviour the first one? It
takes a lot of
Yeah that's true, a float won't expand its container, I've got
assloads of div class=clearbothnbsp;/div to get around this.
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:07:51 -0800, Andreas Boehmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Horner wrote:
* floated elements too big for the enclosing element spill out
*
At 1:01 PM +1000 11/2/05, Josh McDonald wrote:
I've got assloads of div class=clearbothnbsp;/div to get around this.
It's not just you! Why is that the (in some quarters) recommended
solution, rather than just the break tag, with appropriate CSS to
make sure it clears?
...and already we're
Josh McDonald wrote:
Sorry, I can't test my statement here, so if I am wrong please
correct me, but as far as I remember taking out the set height (or
min-height) of Div B will reduce Div A to 0 height. Floating Div B
has got a similar effect to giving position:absolute - Div A will
ignore the
Josh McDonald wrote:
Sorry, I can't test my statement here, so if I am wrong please
correct me, but as far as I remember taking out the set height (or
min-height) of Div B will reduce Div A to 0 height. Floating Div B
has got a similar effect to giving position:absolute - Div A will
Hi All,
I am having SUCH a bizarre experience with IE. I thought I'd seen it
all with that browser, but it still manages to fry my brain anew ...
I have developed a site using valid XHTML and CSS, which can be seen
here: http://www.manisheriar.com/queenbee/
Everything is working smoothly in
Hey Guys
It might seem a little presumptuous posting this as its not purely
standards related, but Russ was invited to speak on behalf of the WSG
at this event last year and I think it really helped us reach a new
audience and build some momentum. The WSG founders greatly appreciated
this show
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:31:48 -0600, Mani Sheriar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The H1 for the first article (at the top left) does not display in IE.
It does not show up at all, even though the code is exactly the same as
it is for the following two articles. What shows up is just blank white
On Feb 10, 2005, at 9:31 PM, Mani Sheriar wrote:
The H1 for the first article (at the top left) does not display in IE.
It does not show up at all, even though the code is exactly the same as
it is for the following two articles. What shows up is just blank
white
space.
The icon (small arrow)
-Original Message-
From: Mani Sheriar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 3:32 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] ie INSANITY ... please help me
Hi All,
I am having SUCH a bizarre experience with IE. I thought I'd seen it
all with that
On 11 feb 2005, at 00.17, John Horner wrote:
My question is, *why* is the correct behaviour the first one? It takes
a lot of people by surprise and they often see what IE does as the
natural and obvious thing to do.
I'm not trying to start a flame war, I really want to know!
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