VACList-Digest Monday, September 24, 2001 Issue 72
Today's Topics:
1. Airstreams in Hatch, NM
2. onions in my water heater ?
3. is it a crack in the black water tank?
4. Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
5. Re: Rivet shavers
6. Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
7. Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
8. Re: Rivet Shaver
9. Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
10. Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
11. Re: 1950 Airstream
12. Re: Rivet shaver
13. "Hello" to all.............
14. Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
15. Re: wiring
16. possible VAC rally near MI ?
17. Escapade in Lewisburg, WV
18. Plumbing Mystery
19. Re: Plumbing Mystery
20. Re: Plumbing Mystery
21. Re: Plumbing Mystery
22. Re: Mystery Wires
23. international shipping
24. Re: "Hello" to all.............
25. Re: is it a crack in the black water tank?
26. Re: Plumbing Mystery
27. Re: possible VAC rally near MI ?
28. Fwd: hydraulic brakes?
29. Re: Rivet Shaver
30. 1957 Bubble question.....s
31. Cyclo polisher
32. Re: 1957 Bubble question.....s
33. Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
34. Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
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Message Number: 1
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 16:44:57 -0700
From: "Sherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
Yesterday I was driving through Hatch, NM on my way from Albuquerque to
Bisbee and saw about 10 old Airstreams in a lot in the middle of town. I
didn't have time to stop and look at them, and have no idea why they were
there, whether they were for sale, etc.
Has anyone else seen them? or know what the story is?
Happy Trails - Sherry
'63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT
>
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Message Number: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:18:58 -0400
From: "Russ Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: onions in my water heater ?
Okay, I know this is strange, but when I finally got my water heater fired
up and ran the hot water taps it smelled like old onions that had sprouted .
It really stunk. Help please. The hot water heater has not been used for
at LEAST 3 years, maybe more. I ran and ran the water. I put chlorine in
there for overnight. It is very smelly. Do you think it's from the old
antifreeze that was in there ? Or worse, is there a way something could get
in there and die ?
Carrie Welch
WBCCI#8344,VAC
1971 Safari
1974 Argosy
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Message Number: 3
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:22:39 -0400
From: "Russ Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: is it a crack in the black water tank?
Okay, now for the other trailer ! One trailer smells like onions, the other
trailer smells like holding tank. Does that mean there is a crack in the
holding tank ? How do I figure this out ? Please send hints !
Thanks,
Carrie Welch
WBCCI#8344,VAC
1971 Safari
1974 Argosy
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Message Number: 4
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:39:15 -0400
From: Bob Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
Is this the place you saw?
http://www.kiz.com/campnet/html/zp/az/0603/0603.htm
>Yesterday I was driving through Hatch, NM on my way from Albuquerque to
>Bisbee and saw about 10 old Airstreams in a lot in the middle of town. I
>didn't have time to stop and look at them, and have no idea why they were
>there, whether they were for sale, etc.
>
>Has anyone else seen them? or know what the story is?
>
>Happy Trails - Sherry
>'63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT
> >
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Message Number: 5
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 18:12:15 -0700
From: Bill Worden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rivet shavers
The crux of this business is the cutting bit. All I am saying is that you
can save yourself the cost of the adjustable body that holds the tool in
the drill motor by using a surplus unit. The only bits I have seen surplus
are flat for shaving countersunk rivets flus with the surface, not the
wierd concave ones used for the Olympic style. I'll snoop around the
aviation tool URLs and see what is available and pass it on. I found it a
real help to have the drill bit that fits in the tool holder, it makes
centering a cinch. Aircraft surplus is a great source of riveting
paraphenalia. Ebay often has this stuff too.
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Message Number: 6
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 19:05:50 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
Shady Dell is in Bisbee.....since Sherry lives there, I don't think she'd
mistake that, :-)
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign
Mesa, AZ
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 7
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:24:07 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
I've heard about that guy in Hatch who collects old Airstreams, my
understanding is that none of them are for sale. I think he does some
restoration for others.
>From time to time I hear about that collection.
Ken Johansen
59 Traveler
Durango Co.
At 04:44 PM 9/23/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Yesterday I was driving through Hatch, NM on my way from Albuquerque to
>Bisbee and saw about 10 old Airstreams in a lot in the middle of town. I
>didn't have time to stop and look at them, and have no idea why they were
>there, whether they were for sale, etc.
>
>Has anyone else seen them? or know what the story is?
>
>Happy Trails - Sherry
>'63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT
>>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 8
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:31:41 -0400
From: Steve Hingtgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rivet Shaver
Bill, many of us would be very interested in learning more about this method. Have
you actually done it? Could you post photos somewhere? This is an important
development if you've made it work.
I'd also be fascinated to learn where you are buying the cutting blades at a
reasonable price. Our experience is that they are not much cheaper than the entire
tool. Also, what size collar does the "body" of the tool have? On the Gesipa brand
shaver, t
As I have stated several times, any possibility of a less expensive shaving system is
worth exploring and should be widely shared.
Steve
http://www.AirstreamDreams.com
On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 16:37:28 -0700, VACList wrote:
>Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 12:48:04 -0700
>From: Bill Worden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I have come upon a way to save a bit of money on the Olympic rivet
>shaver.
>The system is not unique to Gesipa, the parent company. What is
>special is their cutter head. The shaver tool body can be picked up
>as aviation surplus very cheaply (I got mine for $8.00) Buying the
>the replacement shaver (cutting tool bit) will drop the price way
>down. Just install it in the body and you're set to go. An
>additional advantage is that the same body can be used to drill out
>old rivets by using an appropriate aircraft drill bit. This
>eliminates centering problems and speeds up the work.
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Message Number: 9
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 19:53:59 -0700
From: "Sherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
> I've heard about that guy in Hatch who collects old Airstreams, my
> understanding is that none of them are for sale. I think he does some
> restoration for others.
>
> >From time to time I hear about that collection.
>
> Ken Johansen
Thanks Ken -
I drive through there every few months (and can't believe I never noticed
them before). Next time I'll make time to stop and try to find out what's
going on.
Happy Trails - Sherry
'63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT
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Message Number: 10
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:14:30 -0700
From: Sarah Calhoun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
Sherry -- What ever happened with Shady Dell, did they sell it?
--Sarah
Sherry wrote:
> > I've heard about that guy in Hatch who collects old Airstreams, my
> > understanding is that none of them are for sale. I think he does some
> > restoration for others.
> >
> > >From time to time I hear about that collection.
> >
> > Ken Johansen
>
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Message Number: 11
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:16:41 -0700
From: Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1950 Airstream
At 09:11 AM -0700 2001/09/22, Chuck & Elaine Kemming wrote:
>We just bought a 1950 Airstream and are very excited about getting it on
>the road. It is in very good condition structurally. We do not know
>the model, we got no papers with it. Only the metal plate that gave the
>serial number. It is 24 feet long, single axel, rear bedroom. It has a
>toilet in the bath room, nothing else. All the wood work is original
>and in very good condition. All the lights are original and work, the
>windows and screens are original and in good condition. We are looking
>for a cover for the outside door light. Also, some information about
>the awnings. There are two tracks, one on each side for awnings. Any
>information will be helpful as we get ours cleaned up, shined and ready
>for the road. We are about 1/3 done with shining. It looks great.
>Thanks. Elaine and Chuck
what is the serial #?
You may want to check your model against the Airstream Photo Archives
-- it may help you figure out what you've bought:
http://vintageairstream.com/archives/index.html
and don't forget to send pictures!
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Message Number: 12
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:27:41 -0400
From: Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rivet shaver
Bill mentioned drilling out the rivets. I have found removing the external
convex head rivets very easy using a chisel. A sharp wood chisel works well.
You do have to get the correct angle so you don't gouge the skin.
I use a 1/2" wide chisel and a rubber mallet. Line up the chisel at the base
of the rivit head. Keeping the chisel as parallel to the skin as possible. A
couple of taps with the mallet (or one good hit) and the head comes right
off. The shaft can be pushed into the inside of the wall.
Just a word of warning to take it easy at first until you get a feel for the
alignment and how hard to hit the chisel. You don't want to put a gouge in
the skin.
- Mike Thornton
Bill Worden wrote:
> I have come upon a way to save a bit of money on the Olympic rivet shaver.
> The system is not unique to Gesipa, the parent company. What is special is
> their cutter head. The shaver tool body can be picked up as aviation
> surplus very cheaply (I got mine for $8.00) Buying the the replacement
> shaver (cutting tool bit) will drop the price way down. Just install it in
> the body and you're set to go. An additional advantage is that the same
> body can be used to drill out old rivets by using an appropriate aircraft
> drill bit. This eliminates centering problems and speeds up the work.
>
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Message Number: 13
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:34:14 -0500
From: "JJWEST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Hello" to all.............
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James Westrich here, #7093. Western Ky. Lakes Unit, Region (5).
Guess I'm one of the "rookies". Bought my '78, 25' Tradewind refurb in =
'97. Attended my first ralley two weeks ago..most enjoyable indeed =
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=20
Learned there of a "silent recall" on Goodyear Marathon tires. My size: =
ST-225/75R15's, load range "C". Max. pressure: 50 psi. These tires =
were on the trailer @ time of purchase.=20
I was told by Southern Ill. Unit Pres., that he had three tire failures =
with the very tire I have. He complained to Goodyear & learned of the =
silent recall. All (6) of his were replaced prorata on tread depth.=20
I called the local Goodyear folks & will have all (5) replaced next =
Friday as per above. No static, no excuses. Just a friendly: "Come on =
in". The replacements are the next higher load range, having a 65 psi =
max inflation rating, with a circle "S" @ the end of the name Marathon. =
Goodyear admitted to me, that there is a problem with the tires not =
having the circle "S". If any of you have these Marathons I described, =
it would be a good idea to contact your local Goodyear dealer for =
prorata replacement. I guess one could run the questionable tires to the =
casings & MAY not experience a problem. I'd be wary in hot climates, =
speeds 60 & above with the old tires, even if they are new.=20
I feel like I'm crashing the party here, as my trailer won't qualify for =
VAC status until 2003. Hope nobody minds.
One of the postings here asked about generators. I have operated my a/c =
& all 110v stuff on a cheap Coleman 2500 watt unit. Never did kick off, =
just so noisy. So I bought a 4000 watt Generac from Camping World. Not =
received as of this writing. Will report on performance later. 2500 =
watt unit seemed to pull the load fine with the coffee pot, microwave, =
tv, a/c, etc. all running same times. Not all for (8) hrs. straight, =
however. Thought the bigger unit a good buy.=20
Hope all readers experience continued good health.
Warm wishes..........
Jim Westrich, 7093.
Morganfield, Ky.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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trailer=20
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minds.</FONT></EM></DIV>
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watt=20
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Message Number: 14
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:34:26 -0600
From: jere potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
Yes Sherry, I know exactly what you are talking about. I was going through
there last March, even turned around to photograph them. there was nobody
around then, but I did pull in with my Safari, and took several pics. It
appeared the place was a small RV park, about 8-10 sites, but had a for sale
sign out front. My wife counted 18 various units there, including Avions. I
will put the pics in the Files section of the A/S list for all to see. Since
I bought my second, A/S, I put this place out of my mind.
Jere Potter, Ft Collins, CO
Sherry wrote:
> Yesterday I was driving through Hatch, NM on my way from Albuquerque to
> Bisbee and saw about 10 old Airstreams in a lot in the middle of town. I
> didn't have time to stop and look at them, and have no idea why they were
> there, whether they were for sale, etc.
>
> Has anyone else seen them? or know what the story is?
>
> Happy Trails - Sherry
> '63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT
> >
>
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Message Number: 15
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 23:42:28 -0400
From: Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wiring
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I'll agree with Dr. Johnson. Based on experience here at home a GFI
breaker will run about $80. This I know because I had one taken out by
a lighting strike. I opted to switch it to a regular breaker and then
put a GFI outlet as the first on the circuit. This will protect all
outlets down stream.
The GFI outlets are bulkier but should fit. If not you could use a
spacer ring to add about 1/2" depth for the outlet.
- Mike Thornton
DMH wrote:
> Hello all,I am getting ready to rewire my 67 GT. I have taken many
> photos and made sketches of existing wiring, but I have a feeling that
> some alterations have been made to it over the years. Does a wiring
> diagram exist for a 67 GT? Also would it be better to use a GFCI
> breaker in the panel box or separate GFCI's at each receptacle?
> Thanks, Dave H
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I'll agree with Dr. Johnson. Based on experience here at home a GFI
breaker will run about $80. This I know because I had one taken out
by a lighting strike. I opted to switch it to a regular breaker and
then put a GFI outlet as the first on the circuit. This will protect
all outlets down stream.
<p>The GFI outlets are bulkier but should fit. If not you could use
a spacer ring to add about 1/2" depth for the outlet.
<p>- Mike Thornton
<p>DMH wrote:
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<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Hello
all,</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I am getting ready to
rewire my 67 GT. I have taken many photos and made sketches of existing
wiring, but I have a feeling that some alterations have been made to it
over the years. Does a wiring diagram exist for a 67 GT? Also
would it be better to use a GFCI breaker in the panel box or separate GFCI's
at each receptacle? Thanks, Dave H</font></font></blockquote>
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Message Number: 16
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:40:28 -0400
From: "Russ Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: possible VAC rally near MI ?
Is there any VAC rallies planned near MI in the near future ? Is there a
set pattern to VAC rallies , or could I volunteer to plan one ? Like for a
weekend next year ? Is there anyone in VAC who would come to it ? I don't
want to plan one if no one is around here to come.
Carrie Welch
WBCCI#8344,VAC
1971 Safari
1974 Argosy
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Message Number: 17
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:10:46 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Escapade in Lewisburg, WV
Hi all,
I have a meeting at the Escapade in Lewisburg, West Virginia. I think I
know where Lewisburg is; however, I'm not sure of the camp where this even
is to be held.
Anyone have specific directions to the event once I'm in Lewisburg?
'69 Safari, Joy
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Message Number: 18
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 09:49:59 -0500
From: "Jeff Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Plumbing Mystery
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<P>I have a plumbing mystery for the Airstream sleuths among us.</P>
<P>While using my water pump, I have very little water pressure in the kitchen sink of
my 1968 Caravel. The water pressure in the lavatory sink and shower unit is very
strong. The toilet also flushes with a strong current. My hot water heater works and I
<P>My owners manual shows a filter placed between the kitchen sink and the pipes from
the hot water heater. My first impression was that the filter was clogged. However, it
looks like the filter has been removed.</P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>Any other suggestions as to why my kitchen sink flows at a trickle? </P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>Thanks in Advance</P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>Jeff</P>
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Message Number: 19
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:02:12 -0400
From: "David W. Lowrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plumbing Mystery
<html>
Often times there is an "aerator" on the spigot of your sink
faucet. This often times gets clogged with sediment and hard water
deposits.<br><br>
Try unscrewing it from the faucet, and taking it apart. Examine all the
orifices and screens to make sure they are clean.<br><br>
The other possibility is that the water control for your sink is
dirty/messed up.<br><br>
Dave<br><br>
At 09:49 AM 9/24/01 -0500, you wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I have a plumbing mystery for the
Airstream sleuths among us.<br><br>
While using my water pump, I have very little water pressure in the
kitchen sink of my 1968 Caravel. The water pressure in the lavatory sink
and shower unit is very strong. The toilet also flushes with a strong
current. My hot water heater works and I have hot water in the lavatory
sink and shower. <br><br>
My owners manual shows a filter placed between the kitchen sink and the
pipes from the hot water heater. My first impression was that the filter
was clogged. However, it looks like the filter has been
removed.<br><br>
Any other suggestions as to why my kitchen sink flows at a trickle?
<br><br>
Thanks in Advance<br><br>
Jeff<br><br>
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Message Number: 20
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 09:16:38 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plumbing Mystery
The simplest possibility is lime in the screen of the kitchen faucet.
That's common around this house. Then there could be a kink in a pipe
anywhere it taps off to get to the kitchen sink. Or a wad of junk.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 21
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 09:59:27 -0600
From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plumbing Mystery
Try (not sure what its called) the cap where the water comes out - - it may
be clogged with sand or as you say the filter is clogged.
Ken Johansen
59 Traveler
At 09:49 AM 9/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
> a plumbing mystery for the Airstream sleuths among us. While using my
>water pump, I have very little water pressure in the kitchen sink of my
>1968 Caravel. The water pressure in the lavatory sink and shower unit is
>very strong. The toilet also flushes with a strong current. My hot water
>heater works and I have hot water in the lavatory sink and shower. My
>owners manual shows a filter placed between the kitchen sink and the pipes
>from the hot water heater. My first impression was that the filter was
>clogged. However, it looks like the filter has been removed. Any other
>suggestions as to why my kitchen sink flows at a trickle? Thanks in
>Advance Jeff
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Message Number: 22
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 09:02:59 -0700
From: Brian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mystery Wires
The URL for the wiring diagrams is
http://www.airstreamclassics.com/DetailPages/Docs/Electrical/WiringLoc.html
I fixed the gif/jpg error.
Many changes were made between 68 and 69, I don't know how much
internal wiring changed, but it's probably worth checking.
Brian
'61 Bambi
>The mystery wires are probably speaker wires. Not long ago, someone
>posted on their web page, a copy of a 60's vintage drawing from
>Airstream that covered some of the wiring and it specifically mentioned
>speaker wires and said where each was run in case someone wanted to fish
>them out to add extension speakers in the future. I forget where that
>was, but I downloaded copies (of the three graphics) to my computer for
>ready reference even though I recall it wasn't for '68 Airstreams. I
>just checked, its for '69 Airstreams. Might be close to our 68s. I
>remember having trouble with one of them because the URL said .gif and
>the graphic was .jpg or the other way around. There are three pages, one
>is .gif and the other two are .jpg. Jim would you like me to send them
>directly to you?
>
>Gerald J.
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Message Number: 23
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:15:52 -0400
From: "Russ Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: international shipping
I know this has been mentioned, but has anyone shipped their airstream
overseas ? How did it work out, was it very expensive?
Carrie Welch
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Message Number: 24
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:42:55 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Hello" to all.............
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Jim,
Are you sure that you have the recall story correct? When Goodyear =
replaced my tires last year they stated that the only ones affected by =
the silent recall were the load range D's. At that time the C's were not =
included.
Scott
----- Original Message -----=20
From: JJWEST=20
To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 11:34 PM
Subject: [VAC] "Hello" to all.............
SNIP
Learned there of a "silent recall" on Goodyear Marathon tires. My =
size: ST-225/75R15's, load range "C". Max. pressure: 50 psi. These =
tires were on the trailer @ time of purchase.=20
I was told by Southern Ill. Unit Pres., that he had three tire =
failures with the very tire I have. He complained to Goodyear & learned =
of the silent recall. All (6) of his were replaced prorata on tread =
depth.=20
I called the local Goodyear folks & will have all (5) replaced next =
Friday as per above. No static, no excuses. Just a friendly: "Come on =
in". The replacements are the next higher load range, having a 65 psi =
max inflation rating, with a circle "S" @ the end of the name Marathon. =
Goodyear admitted to me, that there is a problem with the tires not =
having the circle "S". If any of you have these Marathons I described, =
it would be a good idea to contact your local Goodyear dealer for =
prorata replacement.=20
SNIP
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you sure that you have the recall =
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VACList</A> </DIV>
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2001 11:34=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>SNIP</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D2>I was told by Southern Ill. Unit Pres., =
that he=20
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& learned of the silent recall. All (6) of his were replaced =
prorata=20
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<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D2>I called the local Goodyear folks & =
will have=20
all (5) replaced next Friday as per above. No static, no excuses. Just =
a=20
friendly: "Come on in". The replacements are the next =
higher load=20
range, having a 65 psi max inflation rating, with a circle "S" @ =
the end=20
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with=20
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Marathons I=20
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Message Number: 25
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:03:10 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: is it a crack in the black water tank?
The most common source for holding tank odors finding their way into the
trailer seems to be a bad seal between the toilet and the holding tank.
Remove the toilet to gain access to the seal, which is normally made of foam
rubber.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 8:22 PM
Subject: [VAC] is it a crack in the black water tank?
> Okay, now for the other trailer ! One trailer smells like onions, the
other
> trailer smells like holding tank. Does that mean there is a crack in the
> holding tank ? How do I figure this out ? Please send hints !
>
> Thanks,
> Carrie Welch
> WBCCI#8344,VAC
> 1971 Safari
> 1974 Argosy
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Message Number: 26
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:08:38 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plumbing Mystery
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Have you tried removing and cleaning the strainer/aerator at the end of =
the faucet?
Scott
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jeff Griffin=20
To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:49 AM
Subject: [VAC] Plumbing Mystery
SNIP------------
Any other suggestions as to why my kitchen sink flows at a trickle?=20
Thanks in Advance
Jeff
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Message Number: 27
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:42:49 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: possible VAC rally near MI ?
Carrie,
This is not near future, but Region 4 Rally of the WBCCI offers a VAC
parking area (in essence a rally within a rally). Region 4 includes
Michigan, Ohio & West Virginia. The rally is held somewhere within these
three states in the spring of each year. The next one will be May 22nd
through June 2, 2002 in Mansfield Ohio. All paying members of the VAC who
live in one of the above mentioned states will receive either a flyer or
email with info and sign up instructions sometime in April.
If you wish to host a VAC only gathering please feel free to contact me
offlist for tips.
Scott Scheuermann
VAC region 4 rep
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 8:40 PM
Subject: [VAC] possible VAC rally near MI ?
> Is there any VAC rallies planned near MI in the near future ? Is there a
> set pattern to VAC rallies , or could I volunteer to plan one ? Like for a
> weekend next year ? Is there anyone in VAC who would come to it ? I don't
> want to plan one if no one is around here to come.
>
> Carrie Welch
> WBCCI#8344,VAC
> 1971 Safari
> 1974 Argosy
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Message Number: 28
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:24:33 -0400
From: "David W. Lowrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fwd: hydraulic brakes?
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>Dave,</font><br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Are you absolutely sure that HYDRAULIC brakes
were optional in 1977? Perhaps you are referring to the vacuum activated
disc brakes?</font><br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Scott</font></blockquote><br>
I stand corrected. It IS the vacuum assisted disc brakes, not hydraulic
brakes, that are described in my '77 owners manual.<br><br>
Sorry if I caused any confusion.<br><br>
Dave<br><br>
<x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep>
_________________________________________________________________<br>
Dave Lowrey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br><br>
WBCCI: 5074<br><br>
1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)<br>
Cincinnati, Ohio</html>
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Message Number: 29
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:59:46 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Rivet Shaver
I purchased one of the rivet shavers and it is way too
deep for use on the airstream rivets, so if the cutter
can be changed out, it would work for me, too.
Original Message
bill - more details, links to anything? I've got a
shaver with microstop, and I assume that the body you
are referring to is the same as the microstop?
the cutter head i have was made for larger rivets - if
i could just change this, i'd be on my way.
Toby
--- Bill Worden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have come upon a way to save a bit of money on the
> Olympic rivet shaver.
> The system is not unique to Gesipa, the parent
> company. What is special is
> their cutter head. The shaver tool body can be
> picked up as aviation
--
Gary Murrell
'70 27' Overlander
hppt:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/~smgm
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Message Number: 30
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:10:43 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 1957 Bubble question.....s
Hey out there in Airstream Land-
I got my eye on a (i think) 57 Bubble
need to know.....
Is it the only model year with the teardrop wheel wells?
How hard is it for parts...i mean almost all parts, it's pretty empty.
How much should i pay for it, within reason?
Are they a sought after model?
I need somethin to pull!!
Thanks-
Jamie Fraser
Owner of a 73 31' beast of a Sovereign
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Message Number: 31
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:13:52 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cyclo polisher
There is a Cyclo polisher on e-bay (www.ebay.com) currently at $99.00. It's
Item No. 1277133766.
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign
Mesa, AZ
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 32
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 01 15:35:50 -0600
From: Roy Lashway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1957 Bubble question.....s
>Is it the only model year with the teardrop wheel wells?
>
>How hard is it for parts...i mean almost all parts, it's pretty empty.
>
>How much should i pay for it, within reason?
>
>Are they a sought after model?
>
>I need somethin to pull!!
=================
I have a '57 Bubble but I have heard that some of the'56 models also had
tear drop wheel wells? However, one of the exclusive features of the
Calif made '57 is the rear center -end panel. It is often called the
Dutchman Cap or Whale Tail. At the bottom the panel is the same width as
the rear window and tapers up to about 1 ft at very top.. Mine came
empty and thus cannot speak to parts but would assume they are not easy
to find although a lot of interior/exterior parts are interchangeble with
other models in the mid fifties time span. These small models are
always in demand as their were not a lot of them made. Mine is #356 of
that year and made in Calif.. Some were also made in the Ohio plant and
some differences may exists. I paid $1250 after owner had repaired
rotted floor and put a new axle/electric brake system on it. I'd think a
range between $600 and $2000 might be right if unit hasn't been restored.
Check my web site below. I totally rebuilt the interior to meet my
needs and is pretty contemporary except no shower and have a porta potty.
Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610 VAC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
(polishing report included)
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Message Number: 33
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 01 15:53:50 -0600
From: Roy Lashway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
>>Yesterday I was driving through Hatch, NM on my way from Albuquerque to
>>Bisbee and saw about 10 old Airstreams in a lot in the middle of town. I
>>didn't have time to stop and look at them, and have no idea why they were
>>there, whether they were for sale, etc.
>>
>>Has anyone else seen them? or know what the story is?
==========
Units belong to Franciscan RV, Inc, 630 Franklin, 1-800-605-2280. He has
a dozen or more trailers in a lot just west of his RV Center. Most are
Airstreams but a couple I believe are Silver Streaks.. He is alway
evasive about sales price and spoke of prices that are rediculously
high such around $8000. One of his staff said he thinks he has eventual
plans of put them in a "motel mode", similar to Shady Dell in Bisbee. AZ.
They have been sitting their for at least 15 years that I know of and
look kind of unique from a distance all line up in a single row like
they are attending a rally.
Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610 VAC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
(polishing report included)
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Message Number: 34
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 01 16:02:41 -0600
From: Roy Lashway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstreams in Hatch, NM
What ever happened with Shady Dell, did they sell it?
==========
Stayed at Shady Dell last week and it has not yet been sold. They are
still working on trailers and will soon have a large cabin cruiser (boat)
available for rent. Just think, an ocean cruise in southern AZ. Unique
place and neat Cafe. Only have about seven parking sites for traveling
units so call in advance. They were having a wedding the next day after
we left. Looking forward to stopping again.
Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610 VAC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
(polishing report included)
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