VACList-Digest Wednesday, September 26, 2001 Issue 74
Today's Topics:
1. Kitchen Faucet Fix
2. Re: international shipping
3. Re: Wiring for 8-track
4. Re: Wiring for 8-track
5. GFI Circuits
6. Vulkem clean up/Alcoa dissapointment
7. Re: GFI Circuits
8. Re: Wiring for 8-track
9. A few upgrades: Floor, tires, mattresses, lights
10. Re: Pergo Floor Installation
11. Re: Vulkem clean up
12. Re:
13. Re: Vulkem clean up
14. water tank
15. Lightning
16. Re: TOP of GEORGIA RALLY
17. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
18. Re: international shipping
19. Re: Vulkem clean up
20. Re: Vulkem clean up
21. Re: TOP of GEORGIA RALLY
22. Re: Vulkem clean up
23. Re: Kitchen Faucet Fix
24. Re: Vulkem clean up
25. Re: Lightning
26. Re: Vulkem clean up
27. Re: Vulkem clean up
28. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
29. Re: Lightning
30. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
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Message Number: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:30:34 -0600
From: "Virgil Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kitchen Faucet Fix
We just sold our 1968 Ambassador that had the same problem. I found the
problem to be a stuck check valve in the old filter housing. The filter had
been removed and apparently this allowed the check valve to come loose and
block the outlet. I think if you look carefully in the filter housing you
will see that this is the problem.
Virgil Turner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1967 Globetrotter
Montrose, CO
At 09:49 AM 9/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
> a plumbing mystery for the Airstream sleuths among us. While using my
>water pump, I have very little water pressure in the kitchen sink of my
>1968 Caravel. The water pressure in the lavatory sink and shower unit is
>very strong. The toilet also flushes with a strong current. My hot water
>heater works and I have hot water in the lavatory sink and shower. My
>owners manual shows a filter placed between the kitchen sink and the pipes
>from the hot water heater. My first impression was that the filter was
>clogged. However, it looks like the filter has been removed. Any other
>suggestions as to why my kitchen sink flows at a trickle? Thanks in
>Advance Jeff
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Message Number: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:29:06 -0400
From: Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: international shipping
I don't know a lot but what I do know I will share.
I sold a 1954 Safari to a gentleman from Belgium. He arranged for the
shipping from Jacksonville, FL to Antwerp.
There were two options for transporting the trailer by ship. The first was
to have the trailer placed into an open top shipping container. This type
of transportation had the drawbacks of 1) The trailer width would barely
fit in the container. 2) This tight fit could result in damage during
transport. 3) The containers are stacked above deck on the ship. This
could leave it open to the elements. Remember the container has an open
top. And containers do fall overboard.
The second option is called 'rollon-rolloff' or RORO to use the shipping
term. This is how they ship cars. The ship is designed with many, many
levels below deck. All cargo is below deck on a RORO ship. This method
costs more than the container method. However I would assume the risk of
damage is much less. When I dropped the Safari at the Port of Jacksonville
there were many boats on trailers waiting to be loaded. So it appears to
be a popular method of shipping towable items.
The other thing to check is to be sure that the serial number on the
trailer and the title match. If they do not it could be a little tricky
getting it through customs on the other side. Be sure to have accurate
supporting documentation.
The shipping of this trailer was coordinated through a broker in New
Jersey. I am not sure what you look under in the yellow pages.
- Mike Thornton
Russ Welch wrote:
> I know this has been mentioned, but has anyone shipped their airstream
> overseas ? How did it work out, was it very expensive?
>
> Carrie Welch
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Message Number: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:59:00 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wiring for 8-track
Mike Scott wrote:
> We are new owners of a 1974 Trade Wind, Land Yacht. It came pre-wired for
> the
> radio/8-track with 4 speaker wires. We cannot figure out where the speaker
> wires terminate so we can install new speakers, or where the antenna goes.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Mike and Clare Scott
> WBCCI #11974, VAC (as of yesterday)
> Lafayette, CO
>
OK, here is the deal from the factory Optional Component Wire Location list
for you coach.
The reference point is called station zero. Station zero is the point were the
front endliner meets the metal ceiling sheet. You know, walk in the door and
look up.
The front speaker locations are 12" aft of station zero and 47" from the floor
on each side.
The rear speaker locations for the twin bed model are 151" aft of station zero
and 50" off the floor. For the double bed model the roadside location is 118"
aft and 66" with the curbside location at 162" aft and 50" off the floor.
Hope this helps more than confuses
Charlie
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Message Number: 4
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 22:28:45 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wiring for 8-track
Charlie, do you have similar dimensions for the ' 68 Tradewind double?
Thanks,
Jim Greene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie/Betty Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 21:59
Subject: [VAC] Re: Wiring for 8-track
> Mike Scott wrote:
>
> > We are new owners of a 1974 Trade Wind, Land Yacht. It came pre-wired
for
> > the
> > radio/8-track with 4 speaker wires. We cannot figure out where the
speaker
> > wires terminate so we can install new speakers, or where the antenna
goes.
> > Any ideas?
> > Thanks,
> > Mike and Clare Scott
> > WBCCI #11974, VAC (as of yesterday)
> > Lafayette, CO
> >
>
> OK, here is the deal from the factory Optional Component Wire Location
list
> for you coach.
> The reference point is called station zero. Station zero is the point were
the
> front endliner meets the metal ceiling sheet. You know, walk in the door
and
> look up.
> The front speaker locations are 12" aft of station zero and 47" from the
floor
> on each side.
> The rear speaker locations for the twin bed model are 151" aft of station
zero
> and 50" off the floor. For the double bed model the roadside location is
118"
> aft and 66" with the curbside location at 162" aft and 50" off the floor.
>
> Hope this helps more than confuses
>
> Charlie
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Message Number: 5
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:33:00 -0500
From: John Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GFI Circuits
Gerald and others--is there a reason not to use GFI breakers in the
breaker panel? I have used these in residential application and am not
aware of any reason they should not be used in an airstream. Certainly
would seem easier to simply replace the circuit breaker in the panel
rather than use the process you describe here.
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GFCI
It will require taking some wiring apart. First you need to identify all
the receptacles on a circuit. Probably by having that circuit being the
only breaker on and test all receptacles for power (night lights in
quantity would make that quick). Then it gets messier. You have to guess
which receptacle on that circuit is closer to the panel and (with power
off) pull that receptacle and separate the two black wires from the
receptacle (providing it has two). It would be good to check that
there's only three load cables leaving the electrical box and that there
are no paralleled circuits on breakers. Then with the two black wires
separated you need to find out with power back on if you killed all the
receptacles on that circuit, then with test meter or light find which
black wire is the one from the panel. When you've identified that first
receptacle, you can drop in the GFI and attack the other receptacle
circuit.
The receptacles in my '68 Caravel are similar. Very few receptacles in
the trailer. I plan on adding one or two under the dinette and those
will be my GFCI for other circuits.
One major complication in the '68 Airstream. All the wiring is aluminum
and I don't know of any GFI rated for aluminum wires. I figure on trying
to run new copper in my '68 Caravel some day.
In the '68 owner's manual there is a kind of a wiring diagram that may
indicate the true paths of the wires from panel to receptacles. Have you
checked that diagram?
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 6
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:45:16 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Vulkem clean up/Alcoa dissapointment
I used Alcoa Gutter Seal to seal my windows, the front two I replaced with
lexan. Well we had our first big rain last night so I went to check the
trailer for leaks. I found two.
One of the windows I replaced, and one of the vent stacks in the rear. I
still have to check the vent.
Tonight, I checked the windows. The alcoa gutter seal had turned a green
shade.... yuck! It had also shrivled up not providing a good seal. So I
spent a good half hour scraping it all off.
I tried to make a neat bead with vulkem. I got it into the grooves then
spread it with a paper towel. This got it into the grooves over the wrap
windows nicley but it smeared about a half inch on the sides where I don't
need it.
Is there a way to clean the vulkem off the areas I don't want it, but
leaving it where I want it?
-Tim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0302
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Message Number: 7
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 20:50:58 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GFI Circuits
Cost. GFCI breakers for panels run $60 to 80 each while GFCI receptacles
that protect the same number of receptacles run $8 each. Also the
receptacles are more likely to be tested with their test button, and
sometimes are handier to reset.
Gerald J.
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Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson. Reproduction by
permission only.
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Message Number: 8
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:08:25 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wiring for 8-track
James Greene wrote:
> Charlie, do you have similar dimensions for the ' 68 Tradewind double?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Greene
>
No, sorry Jim. Those nasty Beatrice Foods people didn't start that until 1969.
Charlie
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Message Number: 9
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 22:11:08 -0500
From: John Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A few upgrades: Floor, tires, mattresses, lights
Have been not tending the list too well this summer, but I should share a few upgrade
experiences which I completed before taking the '66 Sovereign out for her yearly jaunt
up into north central WI. Might encourage someone else.
1) New "Pergo-like" flooring for the front and galley areas. Ditto to all that Jim
Green wrote; same installation process. (rip out carpet, pull up tiles, sand/scrape,
epoxy & filler. One additional step: I cut 3/8" plywood and screwed down as
underlaymenfor the new flooring. Glad I did, it made laying the new flooring really
clean and easy.) Sales people recommended the non-glue option for a seasonal
cabin-type application subject to large temperature and humidity variations.
Installation is
straightforward. The floor looks great and did not budge during our several hundred
mile test run. We will see what a full seasonal change does, but thus far I highly
recommend this stuff. 25 year warranty.
2) 4 new tires. ST 7.00 X 15" tires were readily available at my neighborhood Pomp's
tire service. What a pleasant surprise. I recall that some on the list have had
problems finding these. $302 all inclusive; mounted, balanced, installed, taxes, and
olcarcasses disposed of.
3) 2 new 34" X 74" custom made mattresses for the mid-twin beds. Built right in my
neighborhood Verlo mattress factory. Called them on Wednesday; they were ready to pick
up on the following Monday. These are quality innerspring mattresses, not foam
sheeVery comfortable. Again, $300 covered the bill.
4) Minor--I replaced the 2 front wall lights whose ball&socket had come permanently
out of joint. Now have 2 nice brass wall sconces with frosted glass globes. These
were 120vac fixtures but it was very simple to gut them and replace the bulb socket
witthe ones from the 12vdc fixtures they replaced. I wrapped the base of the globe,
which sits down in the fixture, with 1/4" foam weatherstrip material; it's invisible,
and lets them ride in-place without fear of breakage. Under $30 total for 2.
I am thankful all over again every time I do a wiring project and see the copper
wires. Must have been after 1966 when the aluminum wire brainstorm blew through.
That's it for this year's projects. Next year will probably be 2 Fantastic roof fans.
Last year it was new carpet and bathroom vanity. The fun never stops.
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Message Number: 10
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 23:34:08 -0400
From: "Richard P. Kenan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pergo Floor Installation
I also plan to be there, at least part of the time (although I don't own a
vintage unit anymore).
- Dick
(5368)
At 03:29 PM 9/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>At 02:59 PM 9/25/01 -0400, Jim Green wrote:
>>I sure will, Bobby. It won't be right away as our inaugural trip is
>>expected to be the first weekend in November for the Vintage Rally at the
>>Top of Georgia Airstream Park.
>>
>>I
>
>Jim,
>
>We plan on attending that Rally as well.
>
>Will be great to see your handiwork! :-)
>
>This will be my first VAC Rally, so I am looking forward to seeing all the
>great restore jobs (and "free" advice :-) that everyone has done.
>
>Dave
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Dave Lowrey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>WBCCI: 5074
>
>1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
>Cincinnati, Ohio
>
>
>
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"When I was fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to
have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished
at how much he had learned in seven years." - Mark Twain
Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/
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Message Number: 11
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 20:42:10 -0700
From: RJ & Krista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulkem clean up
Popsicle sticks; cc syringes; ice cubes; paint thinner (mineral
spirits); masking tape; 1/8" drill bit to create hole in Vulkem tube.
All tricks/techniques people use. Practice on the underside and find the
ones that work for you.
RJ
VintageAirstream.com
Tim Shephard wrote:
> Is there a way to clean the vulkem off the areas I don't want it, but
> leaving it where I want it?
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Message Number: 12
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 23:37:24 -0500
From: "Jeffrey Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
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Message Number: 13
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 22:26:51 -0700
From: Sarah Calhoun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulkem clean up
RJ: could you elaborate a little bit on the cc syringes and 1/8" drill bit
techniques? What does a hole in the vulkem tube accomplish?
--Sarah
RJ & Krista wrote:
> Popsicle sticks; cc syringes; ice cubes; paint thinner (mineral
> spirits); masking tape; 1/8" drill bit to create hole in Vulkem tube.
> All tricks/techniques people use. Practice on the underside and find the
> ones that work for you.
>
> RJ
> VintageAirstream.com
>
> Tim Shephard wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to clean the vulkem off the areas I don't want it, but
> > leaving it where I want it?
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Message Number: 14
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 23:38:27 -0700
From: Pearl Main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: water tank
Hi Charlie: I need to clear my thinking....my 1964 Soverign water tank is under
one twin bed and has a valve to drain it out the bottom of the trailer.....does
that mean that it is a bottom drain and the tank is really empty? When I come
home from trip I always drain and fill with fresh water and the 1 teaspoon of
clorox so to be ready
to leave in a hurry or move into A/S if house electricity goes off. thanks
Pearl in SoCal
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Message Number: 15
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 05:40:36 -0400
From: "DMH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lightning
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up to exterior power source) and (2. In a park not hooked up to a power =
source). Is it like being in an automobile where you should not touch =
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Message Number: 16
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:10:49 -0400
From: "Robert Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TOP of GEORGIA RALLY
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Have you registered? I tried to but the e-mail address provided would no=
t receive anything. Do you have any info as to which camp ground? Reserva=
tions?
I would like to go, though the wife still thinks I lost my mind, the kids=
think it will be a hoot to see a lot of silver bullets.
Thanks
Bobby
'73 Ambassador (waiting on Rally)
'66 Ambassador (In Work/For Sale)
'73 Safari (For Sale)
Valdosta, GA
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard P. Kenan
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC] Re: Pergo Floor Installation
=20
I also plan to be there, at least part of the time (although I don't own=
a
vintage unit anymore).
- Dick
(5368)
At 03:29 PM 9/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>At 02:59 PM 9/25/01 -0400, Jim Green wrote:
>>I sure will, Bobby. It won't be right away as our inaugural trip is
>>expected to be the first weekend in November for the Vintage Rally at t=
he
>>Top of Georgia Airstream Park.
>>
>>I
>
>Jim,
>
>We plan on attending that Rally as well.
>
>Will be great to see your handiwork! :-)
>
>This will be my first VAC Rally, so I am looking forward to seeing all t=
he
>great restore jobs (and "free" advice :-) that everyone has done.
>
>Dave
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Dave Lowrey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>WBCCI: 5074
>
>1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
>Cincinnati, Ohio
>
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
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"When I was fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to
have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonish=
ed
at how much he had learned in seven years." - Mark Twain
Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/
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the kids think it will be a hoot to see a lot of silver bullets.</DIV> <=
DIV>Thanks</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bobby</DIV> <DIV>'73 Ambassador (=
waiting on Rally)</DIV> <DIV>'66 Ambassador (In Work/For Sale)</DIV> <DIV=
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"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:45 PM</DIV=
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of VACLi=
st</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [VAC] Re: Pergo =
Floor Installation</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>I also plan to be there, at lea=
st part of the time (although I don't own a<BR>vintage unit anymore=
).<BR><BR>- Dick<BR>(5368)<BR><BR>At 03:29 PM 9/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:=
<BR>>At 02:59 PM 9/25/01 -0400, Jim Green wrote:<BR>>>I sure wil=
l, Bobby. It won't be right away as our inaugural trip is<BR>>>expe=
cted to be the first weekend in November for the Vintage Rally at the<BR>=
>>Top of Georgia Airstream Park.<BR>>><BR>>>I<BR>><B=
R>>Jim,<BR>><BR>>We plan on attending that Rally as well.<BR>>=
;<BR>>Will be great to see your handiwork! :-)<BR>><BR>>This wil=
l be my first VAC Rally, so I am looking forward to seeing all the<BR>>=
;great restore jobs (and "free" advice :-) that everyone has done.<BR>>=
;<BR>>Dave<BR>><BR>><BR>>____________________________________=
_____________________________<BR>>Dave Lowrey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]<=
BR>><BR>>WBCCI: 5074<BR>><BR>>1977 31' Sovereign Internationa=
l (center bath)<BR>>Cincinnati, Ohio<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><B=
R>>To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to<BR>=
>http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html<BR>><BR>>When repl=
ying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text<BR><BR>"Wh=
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ave the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was asto=
nished<BR>at how much he had learned in seven years." - Mark =
Twain<BR>Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672<BR>Retired and loving it!<BR>WBCCI =
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Message Number: 17
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:17:13 -0400
From: "Robert Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
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>everyone.
Blair Prestin, 64 Tradewind, Arriving 10/31
Robert Gill '73 Ambassador, 11/01
PPL Membership Overview 212.796.7262
Blair Prestin
2659 Ramada Road
Burlington, NC 27215
336-227-9000
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Message Number: 18
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:32:38 -0400
From: "larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: international shipping
I have worked for a moving and storage company as a carpenter for years and
have been responsible for blocking and bracing cars ,trucks. boats and
household goods .If it fits through the door ,90"---92.25" .Height is
usually 89.6" ---101.6 " You can do it ..Open top containers are not always
free to have cargo sticking out the top!!!! Open tops are for crane loads.
Sometimes you are able to book a top load containers. Yes they do fall off
ships.I have seen containers still afloat out fishing.Price is not bad for
containers.I have a sheet handy with Dims. for containers.
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From: "Thornton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:29 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: international shipping
> I don't know a lot but what I do know I will share.
>
> I sold a 1954 Safari to a gentleman from Belgium. He arranged for the
> shipping from Jacksonville, FL to Antwerp.
>
> There were two options for transporting the trailer by ship. The first
was
> to have the trailer placed into an open top shipping container. This type
> of transportation had the drawbacks of 1) The trailer width would barely
> fit in the container. 2) This tight fit could result in damage during
> transport. 3) The containers are stacked above deck on the ship. This
> could leave it open to the elements. Remember the container has an open
> top. And containers do fall overboard.
>
> The second option is called 'rollon-rolloff' or RORO to use the shipping
> term. This is how they ship cars. The ship is designed with many, many
> levels below deck. All cargo is below deck on a RORO ship. This method
> costs more than the container method. However I would assume the risk of
> damage is much less. When I dropped the Safari at the Port of
Jacksonville
> there were many boats on trailers waiting to be loaded. So it appears to
> be a popular method of shipping towable items.
>
> The other thing to check is to be sure that the serial number on the
> trailer and the title match. If they do not it could be a little tricky
> getting it through customs on the other side. Be sure to have accurate
> supporting documentation.
>
> The shipping of this trailer was coordinated through a broker in New
> Jersey. I am not sure what you look under in the yellow pages.
>
> - Mike Thornton
>
>
> Russ Welch wrote:
>
> > I know this has been mentioned, but has anyone shipped their airstream
> > overseas ? How did it work out, was it very expensive?
> >
> > Carrie Welch
> >
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Message Number: 19
Date: 26 Sep 01 07:41:33 -0700
From: RJ Dial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulkem clean up
Reply to: RE: [VAC] Vulkem clean up
The small 1/8" hole is just the right size to fillet a skin lap seam without any
overage or clean-up required.
The syringes are used to apply the same small bead one you bugger up the Vulkem tube
:>)
I noticed AirstreamDreams.com has stated selling them from the website, too. They
also have the best explanation of Vulkem and Airstream sealants I've seen:
http://www.airstreamdreams.com/generic.html?pid=29
RJ
Sarah Calhoun wrote:
>RJ: could you elaborate a little bit on the cc syringes and 1/8" drill bit
>techniques? What does a hole in the vulkem tube accomplish?
>--Sarah
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Message Number: 20
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:11:28 -0700
From: Sarah Calhoun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulkem clean up
Thanks RJ. That Vulkem sounds like some pretty fantastic stuff. I'm about to embark
on the long-postponed seam sealing on my TW so I'm gleaning all the Vulkem
info I can find.
Does anyone think Vulkem would also be good for the stucco-to-wood joints on my house?
Or is it only for metal?
--Sarah
RJ Dial wrote:
> Reply to: RE: [VAC] Vulkem clean up
> The small 1/8" hole is just the right size to fillet a skin lap seam without any
>overage or clean-up required.
>
> The syringes are used to apply the same small bead one you bugger up the Vulkem tube
>:>)
> I noticed AirstreamDreams.com has stated selling them from the website, too. They
>also have the best explanation of Vulkem and Airstream sealants I've seen:
> http://www.airstreamdreams.com/generic.html?pid=29
>
> RJ
>
> Sarah Calhoun wrote:
> >RJ: could you elaborate a little bit on the cc syringes and 1/8" drill bit
> >techniques? What does a hole in the vulkem tube accomplish?
> >--Sarah
>
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Message Number: 21
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:29:23 -0400
From: "David W. Lowrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TOP of GEORGIA RALLY
I sent email to George James Jr. at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He sent me the info.
Dave
At 10:10 AM 9/26/01 -0400, you wrote:
> Have you registered? I tried to but the e-mail address provided would
> not receive anything. Do you have any info as to which camp ground?
> Reservations?
Dave Lowrey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WBCCI: 5074
1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
Cincinnati, Ohio
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Message Number: 22
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:52:06 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulkem clean up
Just ordered a couple of tubes of Vulkem and some syringes. Now one
question, the last tube of Vulkem I bough I only used just a little then
placed a cap over the tip. A few weeks later I tried to use it again but the
material had cured in the tip and although I tried I could not open it back
up. I finally cut open the tube and the Vulkem was fine just past the tip.
How do you keep this from happening. Thanks
Don Hardman
1976 31' Sovereign
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Dial" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:41 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Vulkem clean up
> Reply to: RE: [VAC] Vulkem clean up
> The small 1/8" hole is just the right size to fillet a skin lap seam
without any overage or clean-up required.
>
> The syringes are used to apply the same small bead one you bugger up the
Vulkem tube :>)
> I noticed AirstreamDreams.com has stated selling them from the website,
too. They also have the best explanation of Vulkem and Airstream sealants
I've seen:
> http://www.airstreamdreams.com/generic.html?pid=29
>
> RJ
>
>
> Sarah Calhoun wrote:
> >RJ: could you elaborate a little bit on the cc syringes and 1/8" drill
bit
> >techniques? What does a hole in the vulkem tube accomplish?
> >--Sarah
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 23
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:53:45 -0500
From: "Jeff Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kitchen Faucet Fix
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<P>Virgil:</P>
<P>Where do you think the filter housing is located in my 1968 Caravel?</P>
<P>Jeff<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: "Virgil Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<DIV></DIV>>To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: [VAC] Kitchen Faucet Fix
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:30:34 -0600
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>We just sold our 1968 Ambassador that had the same problem. I found the
<DIV></DIV>>problem to be a stuck check valve in the old filter housing. The filter
had
<DIV></DIV>>been removed and apparently this allowed the check valve to come loose
and
<DIV></DIV>>block the outlet. I think if you look carefully in the filter housing
you
<DIV></DIV>>will see that this is the problem.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Virgil Turner
<DIV></DIV>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<DIV></DIV>>1967 Globetrotter
<DIV></DIV>>Montrose, CO
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>At 09:49 AM 9/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
<DIV></DIV>> > a plumbing mystery for the Airstream sleuths among us. While
using my
<DIV></DIV>> >water pump, I have very little water pressure in the kitchen sink
of my
<DIV></DIV>> >1968 Caravel. The water pressure in the lavatory sink and shower
unit is
<DIV></DIV>> >very strong. The toilet also flushes with a strong current. My hot
water
<DIV></DIV>> >heater works and I have hot water in the lavatory sink and shower.
My
<DIV></DIV>> >owners manual shows a filter placed between the kitchen sink and
the pipes
<DIV></DIV>> >from the hot water heater. My first impression was that the filter
was
<DIV></DIV>> >clogged. However, it looks like the filter has been removed. Any
other
<DIV></DIV>> >suggestions as to why my kitchen sink flows at a trickle? Thanks
in
<DIV></DIV>> >Advance Jeff
<DIV></DIV>>
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Message Number: 24
Date: 26 Sep 01 09:13:28 -0700
From: RJ Dial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulkem clean up
Reply to: RE: [VAC] Vulkem clean up
The stuff that is noted as having texture in the explanation is actually designed for
masonry/wood, and is the # 116 sold at Home Centers. I've started using partially
used Vulkem tubes (the ones you have to enlarge the nozzle to get the dried stuff
out)RJ
Sarah Calhoun wrote:
>Thanks RJ. That Vulkem sounds like some pretty fantastic stuff. I'm about >to
>embark on the long-postponed seam sealing on my TW so I'm gleaning all the Vulkem
>info I can find.
>
>Does anyone think Vulkem would also be good for the stucco-to-wood joints >on my
>house? Or is it only for metal?
>
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Message Number: 25
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:21:42 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lightning
When hooked to the properly grounded exterior power source (not
absolutely assured in many campgrounds), the trailer shell will be
grounded (though not perfectly directly in the best of cases). When not
hooked to that exterior power source, the trailer may be grounded by the
jack or stabilizing jacks, though poorly.
I think in either case the trailer shell will carry most of the
lightning current and protect the occupants as if they were in an all
metal car. Touching the interior metal surfaces at the time of a
lightning string might cause some energy to be passed through the body.
Lightning currents can be very large and the body is very sensitive so
isolation is best. E.g. don't touch the shell when lightning hits.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 26
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:22:18 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulkem clean up
Vulkem comes in colors to match the stucco or the wood. Its definitely
sticky stuff before its cured and after its sturdy. It might be stronger
than the paint adhesion to the wood. But its stretchy.
The manufacturer's name is Tremco. I found their web site and their data
sheets on the Vulkem we get which is 116, from the Mameco Division. I
don't have a URL. I do have the data sheet in .pdf format on my hard
drive.
Gerald
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Message Number: 27
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:29:48 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulkem clean up
Sometimes, if the tube is opened up to the near full diameter of the
tip, you can run in a long drywall screw and pull out the plug. Caulk
drying in the tip is a problem and Vulkem is stronger than most. I let a
bit of Vulkem run out and then capped the tip with a wire nut. That
didn't work. Its cured solid in the tip. I guess there's where the
alternate tool, e.g. the syringe comes in. Or: Do the whole job the same
day/week then ignore storage.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 28
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:44:09 -0400
From: "Richard P. Kenan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
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At 10:17 AM 9/26/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> Why don't we start a list of attendees from the list so we can all meet and
>greet. Just hit reply, add your name, and delete any unnecessary stuff,
>then send.
>
> >Who else is going to the Top of Georgia Rally - Looking forward to meeting
> >everyone.
>
>Blair Prestin, 64 Tradewind, Arriving 10/31
>Robert Gill '73 Ambassador, 11/01
Dick Kenan, '95 Excella 10/31 or 11/1, I think.
>PPL Membership Overview 212.796.7262
>
>Blair Prestin
>2659 Ramada Road
>Burlington, NC 27215
>336-227-9000
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
"When I was fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to
have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished
at how much he had learned in seven years." - Mark Twain
Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> Why don't we start a list of
attendees from the list so we can all meet and<br>
greet. <b>Just hit reply, add your name, and delete any unnecessary
stuff, then send.</b><br>
<br>
>Who else is going to the Top of Georgia Rally - Looking forward to
meeting<br>
>everyone.<br>
<br>
Blair Prestin, 64 Tradewind, Arriving 10/31<br>
<b>Robert Gill '73 Ambassador,
11/01</b></blockquote><br>
Dick Kenan, '95 Excella 10/31 or 11/1, I think.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>PPL Membership Overview
212.796.7262<br>
<br>
Blair Prestin<br>
2659 Ramada Road<br>
Burlington, NC 27215<br>
336-227-9000<br>
<br>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>
<br>
<br>
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"When I was fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand
to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was
astonished at how much he had learned in seven years." -
Mark Twain<br>
Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672<br>
Retired and loving it!<br>
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella<br>
Atlanta<br>
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Message Number: 29
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:59:41 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lightning
At 10:21 AM 9/26/01 -0500, Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer wrote:
>
>I think in either case the trailer shell will carry most of the
>lightning current and protect the occupants as if they were in an all
>metal car. Touching the interior metal surfaces at the time of a
>lightning string might cause some energy to be passed through the body.
>Lightning currents can be very large and the body is very sensitive so
>isolation is best. E.g. don't touch the shell when lightning hits.
I actually have a customer who was in his Airstream when it was
struck by lightning. He was unhurt, but (understandably) shook up. It did
melt the skin on one side of the trailer, and pretty well wracked the frame.
A funny aside- he was lying on the couch reading the Bible at the
time ;)
________
Chris Bryant
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Message Number: 30
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:59:58 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
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>Who else is going to the Top of Georgia Vintage >Rally - Looking =
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Blair Prestin, 64 Tradewind, Arriving 10/31
Robert Gill '73 Ambassador, 11/01
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