VACList-Digest Thursday, September 27, 2001 Issue 75
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Vulkem on house
2. Re: water tank
3. Vulkem clean up
4. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
5. Re: 1950 Airstream
6. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
7. Re:
8. Vulkem
9. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
10. Re:
11. Re: Vulchem
12. Re: Vulchem
13. 8-track wiring solved
14. Re: Vulchem
15. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
16. REpairs after break-in
17. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
18. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
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Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:56:42 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulkem on house
Yep, it's great for that. The best. Bonds to wood, paint, concrete, stucco,
pretty much anything. My siding-to-trim joints are caulked with Vulkem and
I'm in a climate with a temp range from -20 to +100, and all joints are
great.
Dan
75 Argosy 26
Des Moines
> From: VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:36:07 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC]
>
> Does anyone think Vulkem would also be good for the stucco-to-wood joints on
> my house? Or is it only for metal?
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Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 18:55:06 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: water tank
Pearl Main wrote:
> Hi Charlie: I need to clear my thinking....my 1964 Soverign water tank is under
> one twin bed and has a valve to drain it out the bottom of the trailer.....does
> that mean that it is a bottom drain and the tank is really empty? When I come
> home from trip I always drain and fill with fresh water and the 1 teaspoon of
> clorox so to be ready
> to leave in a hurry or move into A/S if house electricity goes off. thanks
> Pearl in SoCal
>
That's why I qualified my description of the water tanks. Before the tank went under
the floor and between the axles the only drain was the side drain. Yours is the best
way to handle them. I also open the tank drain before I leave the campground to
allow more water to slosh out on the trip home.
Charlie
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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:00:34 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Vulkem clean up
The way i do it is use a piece of saran wrap or sandwich baggie. I squirt a
little Vulkem out the tip, and wrap the plastic around the dap of caulk and
the nozzle. When I want to use it again, I gently pull on the hardened dab
while squeezing on the gun handle. usually the hardened caulk comes out.
Works better with bigger holes, tho--I have a meat flavor injector syringe
that I use if the tip clogs. I whack the tip off, gun the stuff into the
syringe (available at gourmet cooking stores) and use that.
Dan
75 Argosy 26
Des Moines
> From: VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:36:07 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC]
>
> the
> material had cured in the tip and although I tried I could not open it back
> up. I finally cut open the tube and the Vulkem was fine just past the tip.
> How do you keep this from happening.
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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:24:01 -0500
From: H Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
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Robert Gill wrote:
> Why don't we start a list of attendees from the list so we can all
> meet and
> greet. Just hit reply, add your name, and delete any unnecessary
> stuff, then send.
>
> >Who else is going to the Top of Georgia Rally - Looking forward to
> meeting
> >everyone.
>
> Blair Prestin, 64 Tradewind, Arriving 10/31
> Robert Gill '73 Ambassador, 11/01
> Herb & Sidra Spies, 63 Globetrotter, 11/02
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<br>>everyone.
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Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:32:14 -0600
From: "Fred Coldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1950 Airstream
Chuck & Elaine Kemming wrote:
>
> We just bought a 1950 Airstream and are very excited about getting it on
> the road. It is in very good condition structurally. We do not know
> the model, we got no papers with it. Only the metal plate that gave the
> serial number. It is 24 feet long, single axel, rear bedroom. It has a
> toilet in the bath room, nothing else. All the wood work is original
> and in very good condition. All the lights are original and work, the
> windows and screens are original and in good condition.
Hi Chuck & Elaine:
Thanks for the photos of your 1950 Airstream. What a
cutie! It is a 24' Cruiser model. The galvanized piece of
sheet metal across the lower front is a non-factory rock
guard, installed by the owner or perhaps a dealer or RV
place. If installed a while after the initial purchase, it
may cover up dinged aluminum underneath that was dimpled by
rocks, pebbles & debris kicked up by the tow vehicle or by
vehicles passing in the opposite direction (think gravel
truck). If installed when the trailer was new, the skin
underneath may be unblemished.
In either event, I'd leave it in place to protect the
trailer in the future. But if the galvanized metal bothers
you, it could be replaced with a sheet of aluminum, then
shined up to better match the rest of the trailer.
Thanks for sharing the photos. That is a wonderful
trailer you have, one of the earliest with an "A" (or "H" or
ladder) frame underneath the body. Did you get the images I
sent you last week from the 1950/51 Airstream catalog of the
24' Cruiser?
Best regards,
Fred Coldwell
VAC Archive Historian
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Message Number: 6
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:30:58 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
I am hoping to day-trip it on Saturday without my 77 Excella. I already have
a commitment that weekend, but am planning to drive up for Sat morning and
early afternoon. I sure wish I could juggle things around and come up for the
weekend. Is there any itinerary yet for Saturday?
John Muller -- Atlanta
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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:35:50 GMT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
Just came across Christmas cards with excellent photo of what appears
to me to be a '50 s airstream Bambi ( I am no expert on identifying
these). It is decorated with strings of Christmas tree lights - no
lettering.( greeting inside). Published by Palm Press.
I have a scanner that I don't know how to use- if I did I would send a
picture along. I'll try to do so (with help) if there is any interest
shown. DS, St.Charles, IL ('74 sovereign)
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Message Number: 8
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:40:08 -0400
From: Steve Hingtgen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Vulkem
One more thing about Vulkem that everyone should be aware of: caulks do have limited
shelf lives. We are asked by Tremco to order Vulkem at least once every six months
(we order every other month). They say this because they don't want the caulk sitting
Steve
http://www.AirstreamDreams.com
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Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:08:38 -0400
From: "Richard P. Kenan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
At 10:30 PM 9/26/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> I sure wish I could juggle things around and come up for the
>weekend. Is there any itinerary yet for Saturday?
No, so far as I know, we're not going anywhere, except possibly to
Unicoi for dinner.
IIRC, at the last VAC at ToG 2 years ago, Saturday's activity was
a tour of all the vintage units (owners willing); no guarantee this one'll
be the same. George James says they plan to have one rally meal, plus
campfires with marshmallows, or whatever. These rallies tend to be a bit
informal, compared to the typical rallies centered around a local
event. George says they already have 20 registrants (per July 25). Sounds
like it's working up to be much bigger than the last one.
- Dick
(5368)
"When I was fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to
have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished
at how much he had learned in seven years." - Mark Twain
Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/
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Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:31:51 -0400
From: Patricia Raimondo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
VACList wrote:
>
> VACList-Digest Wednesday, September 26, 2001 Issue 74
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Kitchen Faucet Fix
> 2. Re: international shipping
> 3. Re: Wiring for 8-track
> 4. Re: Wiring for 8-track
> 5. GFI Circuits
> 6. Vulkem clean up/Alcoa dissapointment
> 7. Re: GFI Circuits
> 8. Re: Wiring for 8-track
> 9. A few upgrades: Floor, tires, mattresses, lights
> 10. Re: Pergo Floor Installation
> 11. Re: Vulkem clean up
> 12. Re:
> 13. Re: Vulkem clean up
> 14. water tank
> 15. Lightning
> 16. Re: TOP of GEORGIA RALLY
> 17. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
> 18. Re: international shipping
> 19. Re: Vulkem clean up
> 20. Re: Vulkem clean up
> 21. Re: TOP of GEORGIA RALLY
> 22. Re: Vulkem clean up
> 23. Re: Kitchen Faucet Fix
> 24. Re: Vulkem clean up
> 25. Re: Lightning
> 26. Re: Vulkem clean up
> 27. Re: Vulkem clean up
> 28. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
> 29. Re: Lightning
> 30. Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:30:34 -0600
> From: "Virgil Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Kitchen Faucet Fix
>
> We just sold our 1968 Ambassador that had the same problem. I found the
> problem to be a stuck check valve in the old filter housing. The filter had
> been removed and apparently this allowed the check valve to come loose and
> block the outlet. I think if you look carefully in the filter housing you
> will see that this is the problem.
>
> Virgil Turner
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1967 Globetrotter
> Montrose, CO
>
> At 09:49 AM 9/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > a plumbing mystery for the Airstream sleuths among us. While using my
> >water pump, I have very little water pressure in the kitchen sink of my
> >1968 Caravel. The water pressure in the lavatory sink and shower unit is
> >very strong. The toilet also flushes with a strong current. My hot water
> >heater works and I have hot water in the lavatory sink and shower. My
> >owners manual shows a filter placed between the kitchen sink and the pipes
> >from the hot water heater. My first impression was that the filter was
> >clogged. However, it looks like the filter has been removed. Any other
> >suggestions as to why my kitchen sink flows at a trickle? Thanks in
> >Advance Jeff
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 2
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:29:06 -0400
> From: Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: international shipping
>
> I don't know a lot but what I do know I will share.
>
> I sold a 1954 Safari to a gentleman from Belgium. He arranged for the
> shipping from Jacksonville, FL to Antwerp.
>
> There were two options for transporting the trailer by ship. The first was
> to have the trailer placed into an open top shipping container. This type
> of transportation had the drawbacks of 1) The trailer width would barely
> fit in the container. 2) This tight fit could result in damage during
> transport. 3) The containers are stacked above deck on the ship. This
> could leave it open to the elements. Remember the container has an open
> top. And containers do fall overboard.
>
> The second option is called 'rollon-rolloff' or RORO to use the shipping
> term. This is how they ship cars. The ship is designed with many, many
> levels below deck. All cargo is below deck on a RORO ship. This method
> costs more than the container method. However I would assume the risk of
> damage is much less. When I dropped the Safari at the Port of Jacksonville
> there were many boats on trailers waiting to be loaded. So it appears to
> be a popular method of shipping towable items.
>
> The other thing to check is to be sure that the serial number on the
> trailer and the title match. If they do not it could be a little tricky
> getting it through customs on the other side. Be sure to have accurate
> supporting documentation.
>
> The shipping of this trailer was coordinated through a broker in New
> Jersey. I am not sure what you look under in the yellow pages.
>
> - Mike Thornton
>
> Russ Welch wrote:
>
> > I know this has been mentioned, but has anyone shipped their airstream
> > overseas ? How did it work out, was it very expensive?
> >
> > Carrie Welch
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
> >
> > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 3
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:59:00 -0600
> From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Wiring for 8-track
>
> Mike Scott wrote:
>
> > We are new owners of a 1974 Trade Wind, Land Yacht. It came pre-wired for
> > the
> > radio/8-track with 4 speaker wires. We cannot figure out where the speaker
> > wires terminate so we can install new speakers, or where the antenna goes.
> > Any ideas?
> > Thanks,
> > Mike and Clare Scott
> > WBCCI #11974, VAC (as of yesterday)
> > Lafayette, CO
> >
>
> OK, here is the deal from the factory Optional Component Wire Location list
> for you coach.
> The reference point is called station zero. Station zero is the point were the
> front endliner meets the metal ceiling sheet. You know, walk in the door and
> look up.
> The front speaker locations are 12" aft of station zero and 47" from the floor
> on each side.
> The rear speaker locations for the twin bed model are 151" aft of station zero
> and 50" off the floor. For the double bed model the roadside location is 118"
> aft and 66" with the curbside location at 162" aft and 50" off the floor.
>
> Hope this helps more than confuses
>
> Charlie
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 4
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 22:28:45 -0400
> From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Wiring for 8-track
>
> Charlie, do you have similar dimensions for the ' 68 Tradewind double?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Greene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlie/Betty Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 21:59
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Wiring for 8-track
>
> > Mike Scott wrote:
> >
> > > We are new owners of a 1974 Trade Wind, Land Yacht. It came pre-wired
> for
> > > the
> > > radio/8-track with 4 speaker wires. We cannot figure out where the
> speaker
> > > wires terminate so we can install new speakers, or where the antenna
> goes.
> > > Any ideas?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike and Clare Scott
> > > WBCCI #11974, VAC (as of yesterday)
> > > Lafayette, CO
> > >
> >
> > OK, here is the deal from the factory Optional Component Wire Location
> list
> > for you coach.
> > The reference point is called station zero. Station zero is the point were
> the
> > front endliner meets the metal ceiling sheet. You know, walk in the door
> and
> > look up.
> > The front speaker locations are 12" aft of station zero and 47" from the
> floor
> > on each side.
> > The rear speaker locations for the twin bed model are 151" aft of station
> zero
> > and 50" off the floor. For the double bed model the roadside location is
> 118"
> > aft and 66" with the curbside location at 162" aft and 50" off the floor.
> >
> > Hope this helps more than confuses
> >
> > Charlie
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 5
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:33:00 -0500
> From: John Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: GFI Circuits
>
> Gerald and others--is there a reason not to use GFI breakers in the
> breaker panel? I have used these in residential application and am not
> aware of any reason they should not be used in an airstream. Certainly
> would seem easier to simply replace the circuit breaker in the panel
> rather than use the process you describe here.
>
> From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: GFCI
>
> It will require taking some wiring apart. First you need to identify all
>
> the receptacles on a circuit. Probably by having that circuit being the
> only breaker on and test all receptacles for power (night lights in
> quantity would make that quick). Then it gets messier. You have to guess
>
> which receptacle on that circuit is closer to the panel and (with power
> off) pull that receptacle and separate the two black wires from the
> receptacle (providing it has two). It would be good to check that
> there's only three load cables leaving the electrical box and that there
>
> are no paralleled circuits on breakers. Then with the two black wires
> separated you need to find out with power back on if you killed all the
> receptacles on that circuit, then with test meter or light find which
> black wire is the one from the panel. When you've identified that first
> receptacle, you can drop in the GFI and attack the other receptacle
> circuit.
>
> The receptacles in my '68 Caravel are similar. Very few receptacles in
> the trailer. I plan on adding one or two under the dinette and those
> will be my GFCI for other circuits.
>
> One major complication in the '68 Airstream. All the wiring is aluminum
> and I don't know of any GFI rated for aluminum wires. I figure on trying
>
> to run new copper in my '68 Caravel some day.
>
> In the '68 owner's manual there is a kind of a wiring diagram that may
> indicate the true paths of the wires from panel to receptacles. Have you
>
> checked that diagram?
>
> Gerald J.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 6
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:45:16 -0700
> From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Vulkem clean up/Alcoa dissapointment
>
> I used Alcoa Gutter Seal to seal my windows, the front two I replaced with
> lexan. Well we had our first big rain last night so I went to check the
> trailer for leaks. I found two.
>
> One of the windows I replaced, and one of the vent stacks in the rear. I
> still have to check the vent.
>
> Tonight, I checked the windows. The alcoa gutter seal had turned a green
> shade.... yuck! It had also shrivled up not providing a good seal. So I
> spent a good half hour scraping it all off.
>
> I tried to make a neat bead with vulkem. I got it into the grooves then
> spread it with a paper towel. This got it into the grooves over the wrap
> windows nicley but it smeared about a half inch on the sides where I don't
> need it.
>
> Is there a way to clean the vulkem off the areas I don't want it, but
> leaving it where I want it?
>
> -Tim
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
> eFax (508) 590-0302
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 7
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 20:50:58 -0500
> From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: GFI Circuits
>
> Cost. GFCI breakers for panels run $60 to 80 each while GFCI receptacles
> that protect the same number of receptacles run $8 each. Also the
> receptacles are more likely to be tested with their test button, and
> sometimes are handier to reset.
>
> Gerald J.
> --
> Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson. Reproduction by
> permission only.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 8
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:08:25 -0600
> From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Wiring for 8-track
>
> James Greene wrote:
>
> > Charlie, do you have similar dimensions for the ' 68 Tradewind double?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim Greene
> >
>
> No, sorry Jim. Those nasty Beatrice Foods people didn't start that until 1969.
>
> Charlie
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 9
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 22:11:08 -0500
> From: John Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: A few upgrades: Floor, tires, mattresses, lights
>
> Have been not tending the list too well this summer, but I should share a few
>upgrade experiences which I completed before taking the '66 Sovereign out for her
>yearly jaunt up into north central WI. Might encourage someone else.
>
> 1) New "Pergo-like" flooring for the front and galley areas. Ditto to all that Jim
>Green wrote; same installation process. (rip out carpet, pull up tiles, sand/scrape,
>epoxy & filler. One additional step: I cut 3/8" plywood and screwed down as
>underlaym> straightforward. The floor looks great and did not budge during our
>several hundred mile test run. We will see what a full seasonal change does, but thus
>far I highly recommend this stuff. 25 year warranty.
>
> 2) 4 new tires. ST 7.00 X 15" tires were readily available at my neighborhood
>Pomp's tire service. What a pleasant surprise. I recall that some on the list have
>had problems finding these. $302 all inclusive; mounted, balanced, installed, taxes,
>and >
> 3) 2 new 34" X 74" custom made mattresses for the mid-twin beds. Built right in my
>neighborhood Verlo mattress factory. Called them on Wednesday; they were ready to
>pick up on the following Monday. These are quality innerspring mattresses, not foam
>sh>
> 4) Minor--I replaced the 2 front wall lights whose ball&socket had come permanently
>out of joint. Now have 2 nice brass wall sconces with frosted glass globes. These
>were 120vac fixtures but it was very simple to gut them and replace the bulb socket
>w>
> I am thankful all over again every time I do a wiring project and see the copper
>wires. Must have been after 1966 when the aluminum wire brainstorm blew through.
>
> That's it for this year's projects. Next year will probably be 2 Fantastic roof
>fans. Last year it was new carpet and bathroom vanity. The fun never stops.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 10
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 23:34:08 -0400
> From: "Richard P. Kenan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Pergo Floor Installation
>
> I also plan to be there, at least part of the time (although I don't own a
> vintage unit anymore).
>
> - Dick
> (5368)
>
> At 03:29 PM 9/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >At 02:59 PM 9/25/01 -0400, Jim Green wrote:
> >>I sure will, Bobby. It won't be right away as our inaugural trip is
> >>expected to be the first weekend in November for the Vintage Rally at the
> >>Top of Georgia Airstream Park.
> >>
> >>I
> >
> >Jim,
> >
> >We plan on attending that Rally as well.
> >
> >Will be great to see your handiwork! :-)
> >
> >This will be my first VAC Rally, so I am looking forward to seeing all the
> >great restore jobs (and "free" advice :-) that everyone has done.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >Dave Lowrey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >WBCCI: 5074
> >
> >1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
> >Cincinnati, Ohio
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> >http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
> >
> >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text
>
> "When I was fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to
> have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished
> at how much he had learned in seven years." - Mark Twain
> Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
> Retired and loving it!
> WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
> Atlanta
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 11
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 20:42:10 -0700
> From: RJ & Krista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Vulkem clean up
>
> Popsicle sticks; cc syringes; ice cubes; paint thinner (mineral
> spirits); masking tape; 1/8" drill bit to create hole in Vulkem tube.
> All tricks/techniques people use. Practice on the underside and find the
> ones that work for you.
>
> RJ
> VintageAirstream.com
>
> Tim Shephard wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to clean the vulkem off the areas I don't want it, but
> > leaving it where I want it?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 12
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 23:37:24 -0500
> From: "Jeffrey Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re:
>
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> =20
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> Jim Greene
> ' 68 Tradewind
>
> P.S. Has any body else noticed that the Outlook Express spell checker wan=
> ts
> to change Univolt to uncivil?
>
> Poetic Cyber-justice.. and Evian spelled backwards is....... (what you mi=
> ght call someone spending $2 for a quart of water)
> Jeff Miller =20
> 69 Overlander
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> civil?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Poetic Cyber-justice.. and Evian spel=
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> Message Number: 13
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 22:26:51 -0700
> From: Sarah Calhoun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Vulkem clean up
>
> RJ: could you elaborate a little bit on the cc syringes and 1/8" drill bit
> techniques? What does a hole in the vulkem tube accomplish?
>
> --Sarah
>
> RJ & Krista wrote:
>
> > Popsicle sticks; cc syringes; ice cubes; paint thinner (mineral
> > spirits); masking tape; 1/8" drill bit to create hole in Vulkem tube.
> > All tricks/techniques people use. Practice on the underside and find the
> > ones that work for you.
> >
> > RJ
> > VintageAirstream.com
> >
> > Tim Shephard wrote:
> >
> > > Is there a way to clean the vulkem off the areas I don't want it, but
> > > leaving it where I want it?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 14
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 23:38:27 -0700
> From: Pearl Main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: water tank
>
> Hi Charlie: I need to clear my thinking....my 1964 Soverign water tank is under
> one twin bed and has a valve to drain it out the bottom of the trailer.....does
> that mean that it is a bottom drain and the tank is really empty? When I come
> home from trip I always drain and fill with fresh water and the 1 teaspoon of
> clorox so to be ready
> to leave in a hurry or move into A/S if house electricity goes off. thanks
> Pearl in SoCal
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 15
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 05:40:36 -0400
> From: "DMH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Lightning
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> up to exterior power source) and (2. In a park not hooked up to a power =
> source). Is it like being in an automobile where you should not touch =
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> Message Number: 16
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:10:49 -0400
> From: "Robert Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: TOP of GEORGIA RALLY
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> Have you registered? I tried to but the e-mail address provided would no=
> t receive anything. Do you have any info as to which camp ground? Reserva=
> tions?
> I would like to go, though the wife still thinks I lost my mind, the kids=
> think it will be a hoot to see a lot of silver bullets.
> Thanks
>
> Bobby
> '73 Ambassador (waiting on Rally)
> '66 Ambassador (In Work/For Sale)
> '73 Safari (For Sale)
> Valdosta, GA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard P. Kenan
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:45 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Pergo Floor Installation
> =20
> I also plan to be there, at least part of the time (although I don't own=
> a
> vintage unit anymore).
>
> - Dick
> (5368)
>
> At 03:29 PM 9/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >At 02:59 PM 9/25/01 -0400, Jim Green wrote:
> >>I sure will, Bobby. It won't be right away as our inaugural trip is
> >>expected to be the first weekend in November for the Vintage Rally at t=
> he
> >>Top of Georgia Airstream Park.
> >>
> >>I
> >
> >Jim,
> >
> >We plan on attending that Rally as well.
> >
> >Will be great to see your handiwork! :-)
> >
> >This will be my first VAC Rally, so I am looking forward to seeing all t=
> he
> >great restore jobs (and "free" advice :-) that everyone has done.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >Dave Lowrey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >WBCCI: 5074
> >
> >1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
> >Cincinnati, Ohio
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> "When I was fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to
> have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonish=
> ed
> at how much he had learned in seven years." - Mark Twain
> Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
> Retired and loving it!
> WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
> Atlanta
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> <HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV> Have you=
> registered? I tried to but the e-mail address provided would not receive=
> anything. Do you have any info as to which camp ground? Reservations?</D=
> IV> <DIV>I would like to go, though the wife still thinks I lost my mind,=
> the kids think it will be a hoot to see a lot of silver bullets.</DIV> <=
> DIV>Thanks</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bobby</DIV> <DIV>'73 Ambassador (=
> waiting on Rally)</DIV> <DIV>'66 Ambassador (In Work/For Sale)</DIV> <DIV=
> >'73 Safari (For Sale)</DIV> <DIV>Valdosta, GA</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D=
> "PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0=
> 00000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----=
> - Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 1=
> 0pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Richard P. Kenan</DIV> <DIV style=3D=
> "FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:45 PM</DIV=
> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of VACLi=
> st</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [VAC] Re: Pergo =
> Floor Installation</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>I also plan to be there, at lea=
> st part of the time (although I don't own a<BR>vintage unit anymore=
> ).<BR><BR>- Dick<BR>(5368)<BR><BR>At 03:29 PM 9/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:=
> <BR>>At 02:59 PM 9/25/01 -0400, Jim Green wrote:<BR>>>I sure wil=
> l, Bobby. It won't be right away as our inaugural trip is<BR>>>expe=
> cted to be the first weekend in November for the Vintage Rally at the<BR>=
> >>Top of Georgia Airstream Park.<BR>>><BR>>>I<BR>><B=
> R>>Jim,<BR>><BR>>We plan on attending that Rally as well.<BR>>=
> ;<BR>>Will be great to see your handiwork! :-)<BR>><BR>>This wil=
> l be my first VAC Rally, so I am looking forward to seeing all the<BR>>=
> ;great restore jobs (and "free" advice :-) that everyone has done.<BR>>=
> ;<BR>>Dave<BR>><BR>><BR>>____________________________________=
> _____________________________<BR>>Dave Lowrey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]<=
> BR>><BR>>WBCCI: 5074<BR>><BR>>1977 31' Sovereign Internationa=
> l (center bath)<BR>>Cincinnati, Ohio<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><B=
> R>>To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to<BR>=
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> en I was fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to<BR>h=
> ave the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was asto=
> nished<BR>at how much he had learned in seven years." - Mark =
> Twain<BR>Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672<BR>Retired and loving it!<BR>WBCCI =
> # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella<BR>Atlanta<BR>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR>ht=
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> Message Number: 17
> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:17:13 -0400
> From: "Robert Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
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> Why don't we start a list of attendees from the list so we can all meet =
> and
> greet. Just hit reply, add your name, and delete any unnecessary stuff, t=
> hen send.
>
> >Who else is going to the Top of Georgia Rally - Looking forward to meeti=
> ng
> >everyone.
>
> Blair Prestin, 64 Tradewind, Arriving 10/31
> Robert Gill '73 Ambassador, 11/01
> Patti Raimondo (wish I could go)
> PPL Membership Overview 212.796.7262
>
> Blair Prestin
> 2659 Ramada Road
> Burlington, NC 27215
> 336-227-9000
>
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Message Number: 11
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:09:27 -0700
From: Bill Worden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulchem
Vulchem is a name used by the maufacturer for a whole range of one part
polyurethane sealants in tubes and in bulk. A whole range of colors is
available also depending on the particular vulchem sealant. Sealant uses
range from general construction to specialist applications like marine, RV,
and truck trailer manufacturing. All of the Vulchem products suggest dry
tooling and clean up with xylol or toluol. I have used lacquer thinner too.
The product numbers they suggest for RV's and the like are 616, 626, and
636 These are available is silver. The big problem as I see it is a vendor.
I can any of it in thirty tube lots for around $5.00/tube. I wonder, is
there enough interest to warrent acquiring a case to split up? It might
work to dip the tip in xylol and then cap it to prevent it hardening in the
tip between uses. I have the Tremco sealant catalogue and could scan the
pages if there is any interest and/or any place to keep them.
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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 01:35:17 -0400
From: Jim Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulchem
I've been looking at alot of trailers lately and the one thing that really
hurts the appearance, is excessive caulking along the seams. IMHO
I also understand that it has to be removed before the trailer can be
professially polished.
Jim
'61 Bambi
Bill Worden wrote:
> Vulchem is a name used by the maufacturer for a whole range of one part
> polyurethane sealants in tubes and in bulk. A whole range of colors is
> available also depending on the particular vulchem sealant. Sealant uses
> range from general construction to specialist applications like marine, RV,
> and truck trailer manufacturing. All of the Vulchem products suggest dry
> tooling and clean up with xylol or toluol. I have used lacquer thinner too.
> The product numbers they suggest for RV's and the like are 616, 626, and
> 636 These are available is silver. The big problem as I see it is a vendor.
> I can any of it in thirty tube lots for around $5.00/tube. I wonder, is
> there enough interest to warrent acquiring a case to split up? It might
> work to dip the tip in xylol and then cap it to prevent it hardening in the
> tip between uses. I have the Tremco sealant catalogue and could scan the
> pages if there is any interest and/or any place to keep them.
>
> To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
> http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
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>
>
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Message Number: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 06:57:07 -0600
From: "Mike Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 8-track wiring solved
Thanks to all who responded to our question on the 8-track wiring. We found
this information by calling Airstream and speaking with Rick Marks, very
helpful and knowledgeable! He faxed us a "wiring location diagram". Charlie
Burke had exactly the same dimensions, thank you Charlie.
Mike Scott
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Message Number: 14
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 06:07:48 -0700
From: "Sherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vulchem
Bill -
Airstream Dreams (http://www.airstreamdreams.com) sells Vulkem for $4.90 a
tube.
Happy Trails - Sherry
'63 Bambi, WBCCI 1104, VAC, WDCU, TCT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Worden
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:09 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Vulchem
>
> The big problem as I see
> it is a vendor.
>
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Message Number: 15
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 09:32:28 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
Dick, I got a reply from George James to my e-mail telling him that we were
attending in which he said he had heard from over 50 people. I don't know
what that means in terms of turn out but he commented there was still
another month to go -- implying, I thought, that he was expecting more.
Cheers,
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard P. Kenan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 23:08
Subject: [VAC] Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
> At 10:30 PM 9/26/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> > I sure wish I could juggle things around and come up for the
> >weekend. Is there any itinerary yet for Saturday?
>
> No, so far as I know, we're not going anywhere, except possibly
to
> Unicoi for dinner.
> IIRC, at the last VAC at ToG 2 years ago, Saturday's activity was
> a tour of all the vintage units (owners willing); no guarantee this one'll
> be the same. George James says they plan to have one rally meal, plus
> campfires with marshmallows, or whatever. These rallies tend to be a bit
> informal, compared to the typical rallies centered around a local
> event. George says they already have 20 registrants (per July 25).
Sounds
> like it's working up to be much bigger than the last one.
>
> - Dick
> (5368)
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Message Number: 16
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:32:36 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: REpairs after break-in
As I had posted earlier, my 76 Sovereign was broken in to on 9/9/01 and my
new radio/CD player was stolen. Although they turned everything upside down
looking for something of value the only thing they took was the radio. The
damage was limited to the case the radio was in, plus damage to the door
lock and door. My insurance adjuster was here today and has authorized me to
have the door repaired and to replace the lock plus they will also replace
the radio.
I have spoken to Chris Jones with Bob Jones RV here in Houston and I will be
taking the trailer in for the work on 10/08. He is ordering the lock from
Airstream which runs about $600 dollars.
I will keep the listed posted on how things turn out.
Don Hardman
1976 Sovereign
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Message Number: 17
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:05:24 -0700
From: Blair Prestin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
At 08:24 PM 09/26/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Here's the latest update
>. Just hit reply, add your name, and delete any unnecessary stuff, then send.
>>
>> >Who else is going to the Top of Georgia Rally - Looking forward to meeting
>> >everyone.
>>
>>Blair Prestin, 64 Tradewind, Arriving 10/31
Dave and Ann Lowrey, 77 Sovereign, Arriving 11/1
>>Robert Gill '73 Ambassador, 11/01
>>Herb & Sidra Spies, 63 Globetrotter, 11/02
>>John Muller -- Atlanta
Jim Greene, ' 68 Tradewind, probably arriving 11/01
John Muller -- Atlanta planning to drive up for Sat morning and
early afternoon.
Dick Kenan, '95 Excella 10/31 or 11/1, I think.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Need answers to a Personal or Business Legal question?
>
>Visit the most Comprehensive and Free Legal Resource Center
>on the Internet for both Business and Personal Legal concerns.
>
>Just click here: www.prepaidlegal.com/info/blair
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>
>PPL Membership Overview 212.796.7262
>
>Blair Prestin
>2659 Ramada Road
>Burlington, NC 27215
>336-227-9000
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 18
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:02:37 -0400
From: "Robert Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Top of Georgia Rally LIST
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Thanks for updating the list. I had to change the day I plan to be there.
Hopefully I'll be there Fri night or Sat. noon.
Bobby
Valdosta, GA
=20
>
>Here's the latest update
>. Just hit reply, add your name, and delete any unnecessary stuff, then =
send.
>>
>> >Who else is going to the Top of Georgia Rally - Looking forward to me=
eting
>> >everyone.
>>
>>Blair Prestin, 64 Tradewind, Arriving 10/31
Dave and Ann Lowrey, 77 Sovereign, Arriving 11/1
>>Robert Gill '73 Ambassador, 11/02
>>Herb & Sidra Spies, 63 Globetrotter, 11/02
>>John Muller -- Atlanta
Jim Greene, ' 68 Tradewind, probably arriving 11/01
John Muller -- Atlanta planning to drive up for Sat morning and
early afternoon.
Dick Kenan, '95 Excella 10/31 or 11/1, I think.
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IV> <DIV>Thanks for updating the list. I had to change the day I plan to =
be there.</DIV> <DIV>Hopefully I'll be there Fri night or Sat. noon.</DIV=
> <DIV>Bobby</DIV> <DIV>Valdosta, GA</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE =
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LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">><BR>>Here's the latest=
update<BR><BR><BR><BR>>. Just hit reply, add your name, and delete an=
y unnecessary stuff, then send.<BR>>><BR>>> >Who else is g=
oing to the Top of Georgia Rally - Looking forward to meeting<BR>>>=
>everyone.<BR>>><BR>>>Blair Prestin, 64 Tradewind, Arrivi=
ng 10/31<BR> Dave and Ann Lowrey, 77 Sovereign, A=
rriving 11/1<BR>>>Robert Gill '73 Ambassador, <U>=
11/02<BR></U>>>Herb & Sidra Spies, 63 Globetrotter, 11/02<BR>&g=
t;>John Muller -- Atlanta<BR> Jim Greene, ' 68=
Tradewind, probably arriving 11/01<BR> John Mull=
er -- Atlanta planning to drive up for Sat morning and<BR> &nb=
sp; early afternoon.<BR> Dick Kenan, =
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