“To each his own”… couldn’t agree more.

The thing about VirtualBox I find fascinating is how good it is and yet how 
unheralded it is. Any discussion of VM software on a Mac and the only players 
you ever hear about are Fusion and Parallels. VirtualBox is never mentioned, 
nor is it advertised by Oracle.

I am not sure I understand why Oracle provides this product for free and so 
religiously keeps it current. I do all my windows 4D development with it and 
everything functions flawlessly. 

As an extreme example of how well VirtualBox works, I have a deployed 4D 
windows client/server database that talks to QuickBooks via COM Objects using 
Windows PowerShell scripts. I do not own a windows machine so had to develop 
this using 3 VirtualBox VMs, one running a Windows 7 4D server machine, one a 
QuickBooks Windows 7 server machine and one a 4D Windows 7 client machine. All 
the VMs were running on my Mac PowerBook. I was able to include a mac 4D Client 
on the PowerBook that could also talk to QuickBooks server via the Windows 4D 
Server. 

I probably could have done the same with Fusion or Parallels, but given my 
prior experience with each do not think it would have been as easy or as stable 
as it was with VirtualBox.

John




> On Sep 24, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Ed Glassgow <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> This really accentuates the “to each his own” aspect of software.  Total 
> upgrade costs for Fusion over the last 3 years has been a total of $100 ($50 
> for version 6 to version 7 and $50 for version 7 to version 8, with the 
> upgrade from version 8 to version 8.5, the current version that is fully 
> compatible with Sierra, is free).  Not too bad for a frequently maintained, 
> solid and useful piece of software.  I do all my Windows development using a 
> virtual machine running Windows 10 64 bit (on a 12 core Mac Pro, with loads 
> of memory).  It has been superb.
> 
> On 9/24/16, 6:54 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Scott Staley" 
> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>    I completely agree with John.  I have also used both Parallels and Fusion 
> and
>    eventually abandoned them for bootcamp primarily because of the constant
>    upgrade costs every time there was a system upgrade (either OSX or 
> Windows). 
>    I use windows infrequently and primarily for code testing and it wasn't
>    really a problem doing the full on boot.  
> 
>    Then one day one of our IT guys mentioned virtualbox.  Theses guys normally
>    treat Mac software like it's the plague so I was very surprised to find out
>    about this from them. I was very pleasantly surprised.  It works great and
>    it's free.  I actually like it better than both Parallels and Fusion. 
> 
>    Unfortunately, like John, I've not tried to emulate mac inside a mac. 
>    Hasn't been a need of mine but I recall them discussing it in the virtuabox
>    instruction.  As I recall the biggest issue being the legality of the
>    licensing.
> 
> 
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