Consider we often take vehicles to mountain tops in sub zero temperatures in 
bad weather. 

I want that thing to start!

> On Dec 16, 2018, at 14:29, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well, I would just buy the vehicle I want and not worry about such things...
> 
> If you need a tow someday that you might not have needed in non-push button 
> vehicle, oh well. It's not going to be the end of the world.
> 
> If it really bothers you that much, I'm sure there are still some vehicles 
> that use keys.
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:17 PM Matt Hoppes 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Wait. If wheel column locks are gone how do I lock the wheel when parked on 
>> a hill?
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 14:13, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are worried about turning it off while moving push start/stop button 
>>> for 3 seconds.   Restart is a matter of pushing the start button again.   
>>> If it’s running away the key isn’t the first thing I’m reaching for - it’s 
>>> the brake.  The brakes are always stronger than the engine.   If that 
>>> doesn’t work push the clutch in or kick the transmission into neutral.  No 
>>> modern vehicle will grenade itself - the computer turns off the fuel 
>>> injectors at the real redline.    
>>> 
>>> Steering wheel column locks went the way of buggy whips - they are no 
>>> longer required as long as the lock system meets modern standards and 
>>> nearly all manufacturers have removed them from production.
>>> 
>>> My car at least will start with a dead remote battery - you have to hold 
>>> the fob in a specific spot and it will start.  I think all of them have 
>>> some similar provision.   And the car bitches for months about the remote 
>>> battery getting low.  Yeah, I procrastinate.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Why would you emergency shut off the engine?  That sounds absolutely 
>>>> suicidal.
>>>> 
>>>> Josh Luthman
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:40 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> We are looking to refresh one of our SUVs. Everything seems to be going 
>>>>> push start - which scares me for several reasons:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) key fob battery death - leaving you stranded. Apparently with most 
>>>>> vehicles there are hidden keys and slots. Ok. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) needing to perform an emergency engine stop at highway speed. 
>>>>> Apparently you can hold the stop button for three seconds (which I might 
>>>>> add can be a very long time and a long distance at 70mph!)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3) that brings us to 3. Assuming the engine is forced to stop at highway 
>>>>> speed. How do you: a) put the vehicle into ACC mode so the wheel stays 
>>>>> unlocked b) attempt a restart of the engine (while shifted to neutral) 
>>>>> while the vehicle is still moving from previous engine momentum?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Although this may seem trivial. I’ve had 2-3 instances over my 20 years 
>>>>> of driving where I’ve either had to dead stick a vehicle into a service 
>>>>> location because of a broken component that died at highway speed, or 
>>>>> another engine issue. In all cases, having to stop the vehicle to attempt 
>>>>> an engine restart would have caused me to get stranded rather than arrive 
>>>>> at a location where the vehicle could be serviced. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> #20YearsWithoutNeedingATow
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