I’m envisioning your basement full of MREs, buckets of water, and flashlights batteries. ;)
I’m guessing none of us are going to ease your mind that buttons are not bad, less safe, or fool proof! Remember there’s always AAA! > On Dec 16, 2018, at 2:56 PM, Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Consider we often take vehicles to mountain tops in sub zero temperatures in > bad weather. > > I want that thing to start! > >> On Dec 16, 2018, at 14:29, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well, I would just buy the vehicle I want and not worry about such things... >> >> If you need a tow someday that you might not have needed in non-push button >> vehicle, oh well. It's not going to be the end of the world. >> >> If it really bothers you that much, I'm sure there are still some vehicles >> that use keys. >> >>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:17 PM Matt Hoppes >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Wait. If wheel column locks are gone how do I lock the wheel when parked on >>> a hill? >>> >>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 14:13, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> If you are worried about turning it off while moving push start/stop >>>> button for 3 seconds. Restart is a matter of pushing the start button >>>> again. If it’s running away the key isn’t the first thing I’m reaching >>>> for - it’s the brake. The brakes are always stronger than the engine. >>>> If that doesn’t work push the clutch in or kick the transmission into >>>> neutral. No modern vehicle will grenade itself - the computer turns off >>>> the fuel injectors at the real redline. >>>> >>>> Steering wheel column locks went the way of buggy whips - they are no >>>> longer required as long as the lock system meets modern standards and >>>> nearly all manufacturers have removed them from production. >>>> >>>> My car at least will start with a dead remote battery - you have to hold >>>> the fob in a specific spot and it will start. I think all of them have >>>> some similar provision. And the car bitches for months about the remote >>>> battery getting low. Yeah, I procrastinate. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Why would you emergency shut off the engine? That sounds absolutely >>>>> suicidal. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:40 PM Matt Hoppes >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> We are looking to refresh one of our SUVs. Everything seems to be going >>>>>> push start - which scares me for several reasons: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) key fob battery death - leaving you stranded. Apparently with most >>>>>> vehicles there are hidden keys and slots. Ok. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) needing to perform an emergency engine stop at highway speed. >>>>>> Apparently you can hold the stop button for three seconds (which I might >>>>>> add can be a very long time and a long distance at 70mph!) >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) that brings us to 3. Assuming the engine is forced to stop at highway >>>>>> speed. How do you: a) put the vehicle into ACC mode so the wheel stays >>>>>> unlocked b) attempt a restart of the engine (while shifted to neutral) >>>>>> while the vehicle is still moving from previous engine momentum? >>>>>> >>>>>> Although this may seem trivial. I’ve had 2-3 instances over my 20 years >>>>>> of driving where I’ve either had to dead stick a vehicle into a service >>>>>> location because of a broken component that died at highway speed, or >>>>>> another engine issue. In all cases, having to stop the vehicle to >>>>>> attempt an engine restart would have caused me to get stranded rather >>>>>> than arrive at a location where the vehicle could be serviced. >>>>>> >>>>>> #20YearsWithoutNeedingATow >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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