Yeah, AAA is the best value in America.
From: Ryan's Amplex
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: push button vehicles
I’m envisioning your basement full of MREs, buckets of water, and flashlights
batteries. ;)
I’m guessing none of us are going to ease your mind that buttons are not bad,
less safe, or fool proof! Remember there’s always AAA!
On Dec 16, 2018, at 2:56 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:
Consider we often take vehicles to mountain tops in sub zero temperatures in
bad weather.
I want that thing to start!
On Dec 16, 2018, at 14:29, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I would just buy the vehicle I want and not worry about such
things...
If you need a tow someday that you might not have needed in non-push button
vehicle, oh well. It's not going to be the end of the world.
If it really bothers you that much, I'm sure there are still some vehicles
that use keys.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:17 PM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
Wait. If wheel column locks are gone how do I lock the wheel when parked
on a hill?
On Dec 16, 2018, at 14:13, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
If you are worried about turning it off while moving push start/stop
button for 3 seconds. Restart is a matter of pushing the start button again.
If it’s running away the key isn’t the first thing I’m reaching for - it’s the
brake. The brakes are always stronger than the engine. If that doesn’t work
push the clutch in or kick the transmission into neutral. No modern vehicle
will grenade itself - the computer turns off the fuel injectors at the real
redline.
Steering wheel column locks went the way of buggy whips - they are no
longer required as long as the lock system meets modern standards and nearly
all manufacturers have removed them from production.
My car at least will start with a dead remote battery - you have to
hold the fob in a specific spot and it will start. I think all of them have
some similar provision. And the car bitches for months about the remote
battery getting low. Yeah, I procrastinate.
Mark
On Dec 16, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
Why would you emergency shut off the engine? That sounds absolutely
suicidal.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:40 PM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
We are looking to refresh one of our SUVs. Everything seems to be
going push start - which scares me for several reasons:
1) key fob battery death - leaving you stranded. Apparently with
most vehicles there are hidden keys and slots. Ok.
2) needing to perform an emergency engine stop at highway speed.
Apparently you can hold the stop button for three seconds (which I might add
can be a very long time and a long distance at 70mph!)
3) that brings us to 3. Assuming the engine is forced to stop at
highway speed. How do you: a) put the vehicle into ACC mode so the wheel stays
unlocked b) attempt a restart of the engine (while shifted to neutral) while
the vehicle is still moving from previous engine momentum?
Although this may seem trivial. I’ve had 2-3 instances over my 20
years of driving where I’ve either had to dead stick a vehicle into a service
location because of a broken component that died at highway speed, or another
engine issue. In all cases, having to stop the vehicle to attempt an engine
restart would have caused me to get stranded rather than arrive at a location
where the vehicle could be serviced.
#20YearsWithoutNeedingATow
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