If you believe the “expert” I have been listening to it is mostly the refined 
carbs.  Pasta, breakfast cereals,  snack cakes etc.  Fruits are much less of a 
problem.  He says everyone is so different that for one person to actually live 
in a state of ketosis they need to consume 10 grams or less carbs per day while 
another would be at 100 grams.

I am not necessarily striving for ketosis.  But I want my fricking A1C down to 
normal levels.  If I have to have my feet cut off, I sure as hell don’t want it 
to be because I ate too many carbs.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 11:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Keto

I found the best way to maintain an A1C that doesnt make me nervous is avoiding 
the doctor and eating whatever I want, then dying. Right now im on the ham 
sandwiches and chips diet, because I have ham sandwiches and chips. I equal out 
the bread carbs by flushing my system with mountain dew and vape pods. I do 
supplement with compressed stress and hate, really beeps the blood vessels 
stretched for maximum elasticity and blood flow to the pins and needles in the 
extremeties. 
I actually did look into keto, cause I eat the shit out of meat, I could live 
without bread as long as I keep the butter, but the lack of sugar, even 
naturals killed me, I grow fruit because I like fresh fruit, and I will die 
early before I give that up



On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 12:24 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

  Where we are going we dont need spaceships…


  Sent from my iPhone


    On Jul 25, 2022, at 11:13 PM, Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote:


     
    So when are they getting on that spaceship to Kolob?


    On 7/25/22 14:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

      And hot chocolate is just fine.  

      There are rationalizations and spins and apologetics on the subject.  I 
prefer to say “I have no idea”.

      From: Mike Hammett 
      Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 3:02 PM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
      Cc: Chuck McCown 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Keto

      What if you're in the tropics? Aren't all drinks there hot?




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      From: "Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:[email protected]
      To: [email protected]
      Cc: "Chuck McCown" mailto:[email protected]
      Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 3:57:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Keto


      Technically, it is not coffee but “hot drinks”.  Later to be defined as 
coffee and tea.  No idea why really.  It is in a section of our canon called 
“the word of wisdom”.  Written in 1833
      Good advice IMHO. 

      
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/89?lang=eng

      From: Robert 
      Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 2:05 PM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Keto

      With all the cola being consumed when I visited customers there in the 
80's I wondered about caffeine..  So why not coffee then?


      On 7/25/22 12:06 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

        No, that is the Seventh Day Adventists I think.  

        Mormons avoid alcohol, tobacco, tea and coffee.  

        And are supposed to avoid meat “except in the times of cold and famine” 
that one goes largely ignored.  

        And, contrary to popular belief, caffeine is OK.  

        From: Jan-GAMs 
        Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 1:00 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Keto

        I thought Mormon were mostly vegan?


        On 7/25/22 07:54, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

          I agree, it is hard to find snacks.  
          Going to try some keto no bake cookies today hopefully.  Shredded 
cocoanut and peanut butter I think (with flavorings).  
          Beer is no problem as I am behaving myself these days as a Mormon 
boy.  
          Yes, would love popcorn but there are lots of flavored pork rinds 
now-a-days that are very good.  They give you the crunch and good flavor.  
          Pizza, I just eat the toppings off with a fork.  

          From: Steven Kenney via AF 
          Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:48 AM
          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
          Cc: Steven Kenney 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Keto

          Just removing the chips / popcorn is what kills me.  I can cut out 
the bread and sugar.  There is low carb beer,  keto wraps and bread out there 
etc.  

          Just hard to give up things like pizza ... sigh

          On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 12:18 PM Daniel Pautz via AF 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            Such a pain in the butt to get started but once moving it sure cuts 
the damn sugar cravings.   I find the outside family members keep killing it 
for me,  get a few weeks then bday,  or some family member comes over and has 
some crazy awesome looking carb filled dinner that I can’t resist.   



            Another thing if you can get your DR to prescribe Ozampic, 
Trulicity or the other new one,  those do wonders to a1c and if worked right 
you can get them without being diabetic.  





            From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
            Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 9:16 AM
            To: [email protected]
            Cc: [email protected]
            Subject: [AFMUG] OT Keto



            Had to get back on keto hard as I had been slipping/being weak 
willed and my A1C got up in the 7s again.  I know how to get it back into the 
5s.  It is very easy.  Just will take some time.  This time around I am doing 
almost a carnivore version of keto. ( I don’t really like meat.)



            Unexpected and nice result is that my BP is lower than when I was 
in my 20s.  Hope it stays that way, will really help out the next time I have 
to get my DOT or airmans medical.  



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