True that. It beaps though right? I'm just saying to people that bring up accessibility. Maybe not much with olympus. But Zoom and these other guys make no sound no music no nothing. Heck if I shutt the beeps off on my LS-14 which I do to be able to use pre record, I sometimes forget if I'm paused or recording. Stuff like that. Just saying cause when I hear accessible, I hear how much like a plextalk is the thing. But then again. I guess I should let those people define accessibility. Also 2 again I'm probabaly too spoiled by Plextalks victors and when I was little all the way untill I was 14 or 15 it was just a APH handy caset thingy I had. So no menus no interfaces no nothing. My first intro to menus and things woulda been the PTR1.

On 4/10/2018 11:04 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I'm not saying every function could be useable without Voice Guidance on the Olympus but I reckon 99% certainly could be with a little foreand practise. Again many functions of the LS-p4 don' t have any Voice Guidance feedback at all.

On 11/04/2018 1:00 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Oh cool. I don't remember if Neal meantioned intro scan. He may have but just in passing. That sounds like a great feature though. Yeah like I said with my DM520 I kinda got buy. But it still beeped. But let me tell ya I got pretty lost when I lost the speach on my IPod Nanno. I did eventually get speach back though. But it was rough.

On 4/10/2018 10:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
That's a difficult question to answer given that I've been using Voice Guidance myself however I reckon that I'd b able to do most hthings if the Voice Guidance were disabled.

The Stop button takes you to the home screen for example.

From there pressing the record button once puts you into 'Record Standby" mode and a further press starts the recording.

Pressing stop at this point stops the recording or pressing enter stops the recording and plays the recording back.

Remember that Voice Guideance with Olympus recorders is certainly not perfect thus you have to get used to a few functions working without it.

Turningt the "Intro Scan" function on may well be a very good idea since the recorder doesn't announce the names of files as you scroll to know you have the right one you can then hear a couple of seconds at the beginning of each file as you scroll.

On 11/04/2018 11:41 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah but then usability is another thing. How well can 1 deal with the device not speaking? I find that I get lost pretty quick. Mind you I have used a DM 520 without speach but it did make the on and off music I think and it did beap. For recording going in and out of folders I did okayish since ya know it's Olympus. It's a DM. Not much science there. But something with no sound at all? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wander how I'd do. Granted I'm probabaly just spoiled by blind devices.

On 4/10/2018 6:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes granted usability comes into the equation but not necessarily accessibility. For example a Sony PCM-d50 doesn’t have anything much to aid accessibility but the recorder is very usable.

On 11 Apr 2018, at 8:26 am, Norma A. Boge <> wrote:

I believe, as adults, we should decide what to purchase by what we prefer in terms of features, price, whatever. As a blind person, my first priority is whether or not I can use the damn thing. Frankly, I'd like to continue to see specs and real-world use, but how about how accessible the device is? I'm pretty sure this is a audio list for blind guys, right??

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