Op Sun, 2 Sep 2007, schreef Dossy Shiobara:
> On 2007.09.01, Tom Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why don't we have an idea-raiser? Maybe it is a common disease among > > programmers: writing code is apparently the only thing which counts. > > Ideas are easy to come by; doing--or, getting people to do--is the hard > part. One easy way to get people to do stuff is to pay them. There's > no point in throwing ideas around if there's nobody--or, no funds to pay > somebody--to do anything. > > If you have suggestions on ways to get people to do stuff for free, I'd > love to hear them. Better yet: I'd like you to DO whatever it is you > think will make it happen. Documentation certainly needs to be improved, we need a "batteries included" installation process, etc., but let us first create some conditions for a more active community. Currently, the way to contribute is to stick your neck out. The project needs to move to a model where users just need to stick their finger in. Example: Years ago I did contribute code: A reasonably simple patch to make AOLserver use the sendfile system call on Linux instead of read/write. It was ignored. Not because of bad intentions, but simply because all code had to go through Kriston and was burried in e-mails and to do lists. The bureaucracy of contributing needs to be reduced. I agree a package like Trac can help by providing Wikis and forums. I'd prefer OpenACS over Trac (replacing OpenACS by Sourceforge has IMO been the worst decision in AOLserver history), but it's a good thing that something happens here, the tool is of less importance. So, let's do this. If you need help, or want me to install/maintain such a package, please say so, as I'm willing to contribute. Simply installing a package won't do though, it has to be part of a strategy to make the community more active, make it easier to contribute. I suggest: * A low bureacracy way to contribute patches is built, perhaps using Trac or OpenACS * Active AOLserver users get SVN access and can peer review and apply patches. * Getting SVN access shouldn't be difficult. Daniël Mantione -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
