Hi all of you, Congratulations to the new release! I haven't tested it yet, but I'm very curious. It will be very interesting to see if at least the most blatant errors finally are gone.
I'm sorry to hear that I contributed to Lars bad experiences in the past :-( I passed several months struggling with adding words and trying to correct errors I found. Unfortunately, I didn't manage to solve all of the tricky issues I found and was very disappointed when the translation quality stayed very low. Later I found thousands of more errors in the Swedish dictionary by expanding the words and running a spell check on the expanded list. I fixed just a few of them, but didn't find any solution to some of the problems. I simply abandoned the tedious task to correct the errors - they where too many. One big issue that I didn't solve was that the tagger had never been trained - thus it made some very blatant errors. Further some of the new vocabulary wouldn't show up in translations. Is the tagger trained now? An other problem was lexical selection. I'm eager to see how this is handled now. My intention was to create the pair Norwegian-Swedish, but I was advised to start with Swedish-Danish. My bad experiences of that pair made me abandon my original intention and explore statistical translation instead, although I already had learnt some Norwegian. Anyhow, congratulations to the new release! It was probably a brilliant idea to simply make a new Swedish dictionary and thus get rid of all old errors. I do hope the translation quality now finally has improved! Yours, Per Tunedal PS My danish isn't any good, I've several times asked for Danes to review my additions to the Danish dictionary. Now is the time, if not done yet. Maybe an expansion of those words would reveal quite a few errors to a native Dane. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016, at 19:46, Francis Tyers wrote: > A 2016-03-01 16:10, Lars Aronsson escrigué: > > On 03/01/2016 02:03 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: > >> The bidix has a lot of additions by Per Tunedal from earlier (and I > >> think I saw your name in there as well?), although additions to > >> *monodix* are mostly encompassed by the new SALDO lexicon. There was a > >> lot of inconsistency to work out due to the whole lexicon change, > >> although the swe dictionary is probably a lot more correct now, > >> considering the original one was initially created by Danes :) (and of > >> course it's much bigger). > > > > I started to contribute, but failed and left. I don't remember > > the details, but I think it was something like this: When one > > grammatical rule covers the inflected forms of many words, > > and a handful of them need an exception to that rule, Per > > had a tendency to rewrite the rule for those few words > > without considering the many others. It was too easy to > > modify the rule and no regression tests for the other words > > or phrases that used that rule. It seemed impossible to me > > to guarantee any quality or correctness. > > That sounds like a pretty bad experience. But now, with the SALDO-based > dictionary it should be much better. In essence you should only need to > add words to the bilingual dictionary :) > > Fran > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 > _______________________________________________ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 _______________________________________________ Apertium-stuff mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
