arachne-digest Saturday, May 19 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1528
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:55:59 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: WWW server and DOS
Hello Richard:
On Thu, 03 May 2001 08:16:44 +0200 (CEST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard
Menedetter) wrote:
> Hi
> 02 May 2001, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> SH> Questions: What would happen if I were to set up this web server in
> SH> my machine in such a way that it would have the same web address as
> SH> somebody else's website?
> nothing
> as long as the domainname doesn't deliver YOUR IP you can set up what you
> want, and nobody will notie.
> Eg you setup ricsi.priv.at
> If somebody types this in his browser, the browser will ask the DNS Server
> for the IP, and it will get MY IP.
> Therefor it will ask MY httpd for the webpage.
> SH> How would I know if the web address I should provide for it in my own
> SH> setup would be unique?
> either I have completely misunderstood you, or ... :)
What I meant is this: I have to give a name to my web server. How do I
know that I have given it a unique name? Also, what is there to prevent
you from giving your web server the same name as mine? What is there to
prevent us from representing our servers as being a server that belongs to
somebody else?
> SH> Is there any mechanism whereby only I and nobody else can use "my"
> SH> website address as the address for "my" server?.
> DNS
> SH> Do I have to register or copyright my server address with some
> SH> recognized authority somewhere?
> yes ... and additionally you have to pay for it :)
> Otherwise you could simply setup microsoft.com and everybody comes to your
> site :)
As I understand the system, the person you pay sets up the mechanism that
will allow only your registered server to be fetched when somebody types
its name into his browser. How did this Master Of All Domains, whoever he
is, ever achieve such power to control the internet? Doesn't he ever
have power struggles with others who might want to take over? Who is this
guy and why does everyone who pays tribute unto him trust in his protection?
> SH> If you were accessing "my" server, how would you know for certain
> SH> that it is indeed "my" server, and not one belonging to some imposter
> SH> claiming to be I?
> You can't be sure ... DNS is not absolutely immune to such attacks.
> SH> I hope someone has some very simple and straight answers.
> you have to buy a domain. (eg heywood.org)
> Than you need 2 nameservers serving it. (you tell them your IP and they
> tell others :)
> Now if somebody enters heywood.org into his browser, than he is sent to
> your computer.
> If you have a dynamic address (eg changing and not static) you can use a
> 'dynamic DNS' Service. (eg http://www.dhs.org and search for dyndns)
I do have a dynamic address. I get an IP number automatically assigned by
my ISP each time I log in. Can I just set up my web server to have the
web address that is the same as %MYIP%? If this were the case, then nobody
would know how to access my web-server unless there were some way for him
to know whatever my ip number is during any given session.
If my questions seem to you to be very stupid ones, that is because
I haven't yet done any research on this business of buying and selling
domain names. Furthermore I don't even have any idea as to where would be
a good starting point to look into the matter.
Regards,
Sam Heywood
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Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 07:49:07 +0100
From: "Joerg Dietze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CSS and Javascript support
Hi Mel and all,
On Tue, 15 May 2001 18:43:15 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote:
<snip>
> I'm surprised to say the least. The pages and CSS and CSS styles seem to
> work except for the bit where the Links change colour on hover. They
> seem to want to display in the "red" colour elsewhere than where they
> should, but if you click on the "blue" for the link, the page works and
> transfers and the hover coloured false link disappears.
This will work fine if You rightclick at the frame. Red color will be on
it's place. Some other pages behaves similiar.
<snip again>
Regards Joerg
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:57:50 +0100
From: "Joerg Dietze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: adsl connection
Hi Helmut,
there is no doc but it's no problem at all.
You need standard packet driver for Your NIC and pepa.exe, the xDSL
driver from http://www.heha.cjb.net.
Set Arachne to "connection ready".
Enter Your username and password in pepa.ini and remove the # on a
single line.
Load the drivers, first the NIC packet driver, second pepa.exe.
Start Arachne. Note, that it will take a few seconds for pepa.exe until
connect.
HTH
Regards Joerg
On Thu, 17 May 2001 15:55:51 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Greetings:
> Is there any documentation on setting up Arachne to be used on an adsl line
> where the ISP requires PPPoet to be used?
> Regards,
> Helm. WB2ADT
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:39:14 +0000
From: "J. J. Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SLIP/PPP ConnectProblem - Solved
Good for you!
Things aren't going so well for users of the UK's
biggest ISP, the now French-owned Freeserve. See:
http://groups.google.com/groups?lr=&safe=off&group=freeserve.help.unlimited
After numerous dropped connections over the past few
weeks leaving my Win3.11 setup completely locked up,
yesterday and today I could only retrieve mail headers
or about a kilobyte of a webpage. I normally don't
use InSight as FoxMail is faster and allows a selective
download from the mail server. But I _know_ Arachne has
performed admirably as my Internet survival kit on several
occasions, and She hasn't been nearly so troubled by the
connection problems assailing other users.
I wonder what the ISP does at their end to screw things,
and what they have overlooked that allows Arachne thru
like a WWII Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm Swordfish raid?
(Apologies to any Italian readers!)
Regards,
Jake
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:51:28 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Film processing labs offering "pics on disks" (OT)
Hello Arachnids:
Many of us like to use digital cameras and we like to work with digital
images.
Sometimes we have a great picture on ordinary film and we would like
to convert it to a high quality digital image. We can easily do this
by using a scanner, but I cannot afford a scanner capable of providing
me with the quality and resolution I want.
Some film processing labs offer "pics on disks". Many of the labs
offering such services don't even provide any better quality than
what I can produce myself by using my inexpensive scanner.
If anyone knows of any good film processing labs in the US that will
provide high quality "pics on disks" at reasonable and competitive
prices, please post information.
Any list subscriber having a personal business interest in promoting any
particular lab service may mail to me your advertising off list.
Regards,
Sam Heywood
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:29:25 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Film processing labs offering "pics on disks" (OT)
Sam,
AFAIK, Kodak has a pretty good stranglehold on the photo CD market. I
think much of that out there for public access is their proprietary
package.
If any "photo processor" -- which isn't directly linked to Kodak -- is
offering 'pics on disks' to the public, they are most likely very poor
quality.
Since Kodak uses a CD for each roll of film processed, that would appear
to indicate some rather large files ... i.e. high resolution graphics.
You might drop by the Kodak site [there *has* to be one] and do a bit of
digging to find out what quality digital imaging is standard for their
process.
====
On Fri, 18 May 2001 10:51:28 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> Hello Arachnids:
> Many of us like to use digital cameras and we like to work with digital
> images.
> Sometimes we have a great picture on ordinary film and we would like
> to convert it to a high quality digital image. We can easily do this
> by using a scanner, but I cannot afford a scanner capable of providing
> me with the quality and resolution I want.
> Some film processing labs offer "pics on disks". Many of the labs
> offering such services don't even provide any better quality than
> what I can produce myself by using my inexpensive scanner.
> If anyone knows of any good film processing labs in the US that will
> provide high quality "pics on disks" at reasonable and competitive
> prices, please post information.
> Any list subscriber having a personal business interest in promoting any
> particular lab service may mail to me your advertising off list.
> Regards,
> Sam Heywood
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:53:44 -0500
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP ConnectProblem - Solved
Gregory J. Feig wrote:
>
> The new ISP account is up and running fine. For your information,
> and ForWhatIt'sWorth, I found out the following:
>
> 3. The problem was - my new ISP has their server set up so that
> giving the bare "LOGIN Username" when connecting will allow the
> user to be given ONLY an SLIP connection - a PPP connection will
> NOT be allowed. The PPP connection will only be allowed if the
> NormalUsername "joeuser" is preceeded by a Capital P (e.g. only
> when LOGIN: is answered with "Pjoeuser" will the server authenticate
> for a PPP Connection).
> .
> 4. To do this in Arachne, it is only necessary to prepend a capital
> P to the username, in the PPP Section of ARACHNE.CFG......and then
> dial as usual. Once this is done, everything goes smoothly on to a
> successful PPP Connection.
Excellent work Gregy;
I have archived it in a safe place where I hope to remember to look. <G>
This will surely be very useful in the future.
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:10:14 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Zero byte BMP conversions
Today was yet another day of "red boxes" but today was different. This
time around I not only was unsuccessful in obtaining a rendition by
using 'right click' and reload, I ran into a LOOP that's killer.
Mind you, I have visited the web site before ... and had no problems.
The graphics download intact, but then the fun begins. If one is lucky,
all one gets is another red box. If one is UNlucky, a continuous loop
starts ... downloading xxxxx of 22,xxx until the d/l is complete and
then again downloading xxxxx of 22,xxx until the d/l is complete and
then again downloading xxxxx of 22,xxx until the d/l is complete and
then again downloading xxxxx of 22,xxx until the d/l is complete and
then again downloading xxxxx of 22,xxx until the d/l is complete and
then again downloading xxxxx of 22,xxx until the d/l is complete and
then again downloading xxxxx of 22,xxx until the d/l is complete and
... get the picture? I did, scores of times! But Arachne kept on
grabbing it again and again.
And when I was on a page, INSERT produced only red boxes. <sigh>
My son just complained to me about "Why is Arachne giving so many red
boxes now?"
I have the same question ... and why is Arachne creating zero byte BMP
conversion files from JPGs?
l.d.
NOTE: I have available, and can place for download, the JPG files from
cache, the zero byte BMP conversions from cache, a screen shot showing
resources available to Arachne and a red box where the graphic should
be, and results of CHKDSK V: where the cache resides.
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:31:59 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Film processing labs offering "pics on disks" (OT)
On Fri, 18 May 2001 13:29:25 -0500, L.D. Best wrote:
> Sam,
> AFAIK, Kodak has a pretty good stranglehold on the photo CD market. I
> think much of that out there for public access is their proprietary
> package.
> If any "photo processor" -- which isn't directly linked to Kodak -- is
> offering 'pics on disks' to the public, they are most likely very poor
> quality.
> Since Kodak uses a CD for each roll of film processed, that would appear
> to indicate some rather large files ... i.e. high resolution graphics.
Yes, very large files, > 4MB per image.
> You might drop by the Kodak site [there *has* to be one] and do a bit of
> digging to find out what quality digital imaging is standard for their
> process.
Thanks, L.D. I just checked out Kodak's website, http://www.kodak.com.
There they claim that Kodak's "I.Lab System" produces digital images
from 35 mm. film having a resolution of 1,024 pixels by 1,536 pixels.
That is certainly good enough for me. Also they explain that they use
a proprietary image format which they call PCD, or Kodak Photo CD image,
PAC file format. These images you can convert to JPGs or to some other
format if you buy their special proprietary software. I couldn't find
any information on pricing. If you convert the images to JPGs they will
be automagically compressed into much smaller file sizes.
Anybody else with enough venture capital to invest in the expensive
hardware could offer the same quality service and use non-proprietary
software. I don't know how Kodak could have done such a good job at
sewing up the market on this kind of service. Wherever there is good
money to be made, there are usually quite a number of entreprenuers who
want to compete for it. There is no reason to assume that the only
people in town capable of producing the most superb quality are the guys
from Kodak.
Sam Heywood
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Date: 18 May 2001 15:44:52 EDT
From: David Ratti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Film processing labs offering "pics on disks" (OT)]
"Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
Some film processing labs offer "pics on disks". Many of the labs
offering such services don't even provide any better quality than
what I can produce myself by using my inexpensive scanner.
If anyone knows of any good film processing labs in the US that will
provide high quality "pics on disks" at reasonable and competitive
prices, please post information.
<snip>
Sam -
When I have my 35mm film developed, I select "[X] Picture CD" - They
scan 35mm at 1024 x 1536, and save the image as a 0-compression .JPG
so anybody with a browser can view it. Unfortunately, this option is
available only when developing a new roll, not for reprints. This is
NOT the same as the old Kodak "Photo-CD", which used .PCD format for
its images, requiring a special viewer.
As far as I can tell, all of the places that use a Kodak lab can get
this done. I've had it done it at both supermarket & drugstore 1-day
photo services, with the same results. Takes an extra day or two for
processing, and you do have to order 4 inch prints.
MY biggest complaint is that they do only 35mm and APX, but not 110.
I had a dozen rolls I shot in Australia, and I can't get them on CD.
Dave
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:52:11 +0200 (CEST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: OT: WWW server and DOS
Hi
17 May 2001, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
SH> What I meant is this: I have to give a name to my web server.
SH> How do I know that I have given it a unique name? Also, what is
SH> there to prevent you from giving your web server the same name as
SH> mine? What is there to prevent us from representing our servers as
SH> being a server that belongs to somebody else?
It is COMPLETELY irrelevant what *YOU* call it.
The only important thing is what names are matched to your IP by the DNS.
Eg you make your server listen to microsoft.com
But no DNS server will deliver your IP to anybody seeking microsoft.com
>> SH> Do I have to register or copyright my server address with some
>> SH> recognized authority somewhere?
>> yes ... and additionally you have to pay for it :)
>> Otherwise you could simply setup microsoft.com and everybody comes
>> to your site :)
SH> As I understand the system, the person you pay sets up the mechanism
SH> that will allow only your registered server to be fetched when
SH> somebody types its name into his browser. How did this Master Of All
SH> Domains, whoever he is, ever achieve such power to control the
SH> internet? Doesn't he ever have power struggles with others who might
SH> want to take over? Who is this guy and why does everyone who pays
SH> tribute unto him trust in his protection?
read a good DNS howto :)
DNS is a distributed hirarchical database.
In former days network solutions owned the root servers.
PS: You don't pay persons, you pay companies.
And these companies pay to the company which operates the DNS root servers.
Anybody can want to take over. As long as he has no power to insert data
into the root DNS servers.
>> If you have a dynamic address (eg changing and not static) you can
>> use a 'dynamic DNS' Service. (eg http://www.dhs.org and search for
>> dyndns)
SH> I do have a dynamic address. I get an IP number automatically
SH> assigned by my ISP each time I log in. Can I just set up my web
SH> server to have the web address that is the same as %MYIP%?
sure ...
you don't need a domainname
you can simply go to the url http://yourip
SH> If this were the case, then nobody would know how to access my
SH> web-server unless there were some way for him to know whatever my ip
SH> number is during any given session.
yes
there are also so called dynamic DNS services.
They set the TTL to a very low value, and you simply tell the dynamic dns
servers your current IP.
look for example at http://www.dhs.org (dyn.dhs.org especially)
SH> If my questions seem to you to be very stupid ones, that is because
SH> I haven't yet done any research on this business of buying and selling
SH> domain names.
it's not the business part you don't understand, but the technical one <bg>
sorry ;)))
SH> Furthermore I don't even have any idea as to where
SH> would be a good starting point to look into the matter.
DNS howto
SH> Regards,
SH> Sam Heywood
CU, Ricsi
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 17:33:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Eisenberger)
Subject: Re: SLIP/PPP ConnectProblem - Solved
On Thu, 17 May 2001 21:28:17 -0700,
"Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The new ISP account is up and running fine. For your information,
> and ForWhatIt'sWorth, I found out the following:
>
> 3. The problem was - my new ISP has their server set up so that
> giving the bare "LOGIN Username" when connecting will allow the
> user to be given ONLY an SLIP connection - a PPP connection will
> NOT be allowed. The PPP connection will only be allowed if the
> NormalUsername "joeuser" is preceeded by a Capital P (e.g. only
> when LOGIN: is answered with "Pjoeuser" will the server authenticate
> for a PPP Connection).
My ISP used to do something similar:
login: joeuser -> unix shell
login: joeuser.ppp -> start PPP
login: joeuser.slip -> start SLIP
login: joeuser.cslip -> start CSLIP
While they now run PPP (PAP) and the unix shell on separate
dialups, at some ISP's it is still possible to drop down from
PAP to the old login prompt by hitting <Enter> once or twice.
> 5. This seems so simple, and STUPID....<g> Why would they do this..??
Perhaps, simply because there were more options than just PPP. I
don't see any real advantage in using PAP unless you're too lazy
or stupid to type in (or script) your username and password. :-)
Howard E.
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:07:19 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Film processing labs offering "pics on disks" (OT)]
Hi David:
On 18 May 2001 15:44:52 EDT, David Ratti wrote:
<snip>
> Sam -
> MY biggest complaint is that they do only 35mm and APX, but not 110.
> I had a dozen rolls I shot in Australia, and I can't get them on CD.
Somebody ought to invest in some really good scanners and in some CDR
hardware and offer such a service to the public for 110 and 120 film,
as well as for 35 mm. and APX film. There would probably be money in
it.
Sam Heywood
P.S. My biggest complaint about film processing labs is that whenever I
take a roll of 35 mm. slide film in for developing and write perfectly
clear instructions in large upper case letters, "DEVELOP ONLY. DO NOT
CUT FILM. DO NOT MOUNT SLIDES", can you guess what happens? The reason
why I don't want them to mount the slides is that the processing labs
don't know how to handle a roll of 35 mm. film having exposures made by
dual lenses on stereo frames. The only way to have the job done right
these days is to buy the special dual slide mounts and cut the film and
mount the slides yourself. First you have to get the roll of slide film
developed somewhere.
Now, have you guessed what happens when you take your film to a processing
lab and give them your perfectly clear instructions? This is what happens:
Without paying any heed to where each frame begins and ends, they cut the
film into segments having a width appropriate for a "standard" size slide.
This means that they slice through all the frames thereby ruining every
picture in the roll. Then they mount the slides in standard mounts and
return the job to the customer without even recognizing the horrid mistake
they had committed. When I take the job back to the processing lab to
complain about it, the technicians will glibly explain: "If you had wanted
to have the film developed only, we still would have to charge you the
same price. So we decided to do you the favor of mounting the slides for
free. We have a very modern lab that has machines that read the frame
numbers appearing at the bottom of the film. Because of the position of
the frame numbers seen by the machines, the machines always know exactly
where to cut. If you don't have a "normal" camera, then there is a
serious problem with it and you should get a new one that conforms to
modern specifications. BTW, what is a stereo camera? I never heard of
such a thing. I always thought that the word stereo has something to do
with listening to music."
It is absolutely astonishing to me that there exist photo lab technicians
who have never even heard of stereo photography!!!! So I wonder if they
were so unfortunate as to never have had an opportunity to look through a
Viewmaster when they were little kids. I ask them if this is the case and
they invariably answer yes. How sad!
Back in the early 1960's film processing envelopes always came with a box
that the customer could check for "stereo slides". In those days the folks
who worked in the labs always knew exactly how to handle the job.
Furthermore, they always knew how to cut and mount them just as well as if
you had done the job yourself.
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:19:21 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: WWW server and DOS
Richard:
On Fri, 18 May 2001 22:52:11 +0200 (CEST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
wrote:
<snip>
> SH> If my questions seem to you to be very stupid ones, that is because
> SH> I haven't yet done any research on this business of buying and selling
> SH> domain names.
> it's not the business part you don't understand, but the technical one <bg>
> sorry ;)))
<snip>
There is no need for you to say sorry. Your answers have helped greatly.
I don't understand either the business part nor the technical part, but
now I will be off to a good start on howto.
Sam Heywood
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:13:21 +0200
From: "Or Botton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arachne
Hm. Small question - any idea when the next version of Arachne is
expected to arrive? 1.70b3 really need a replacement. Quite alot
of problems. Also, I havent gotten any reply about the bug reports
sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or comments sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] latly...
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:57:46 +0000
From: "J. J. Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Film processing labs offering "pics on disks" (OT)
Two years ago Kodak were still offering a floppy-based solution,
obviously with lower resolution images (better suited to Web
graphics). The CD-ROM certainly came with viewing software (32-bit
Windows and Mac?), but the Win3.1x version of PaintShopPro can
also open PCD format. For DOS, Graphic Workshop _may_ do the job.
Have you got GW installed, LD?
Kodak told me that a range of image resolutions were offered for
the Photo-CD, and that the CD could be "topped up", with specified
shots from existing processed negatives.
Two years on, and I find a cheapo processor is offering the CD
processing at the same time as developing and printing for about
50% extra (less than U$3 extra) for 36 shots. The images are in
JPEG format of 3 - 4 MB, and 32-bit Doze viewing software is on
the disk, though not many people would need it. A 1024x1536 image
is about 9MB for 24bit color, without compression. Compressing down
to 3MB shouldn't noticeably degrade the quality, especially if the
image is resampled down to suitable dimensions for the Web.
But maybe this is too cheap? Sam says he's had poor results. Agfa
are noted for their Snapscan scanners, but I wouldn't trust Agfa
processors after several bad jobs a decade ago, when they seemed to
be chasing market share by cutting costs too fine.
You can hope for an automated process that uses an excellent scanner
and maybe tweaks the color balance, but you may in fact get a poorly
motivated biped putting greasy thumbprints on your precious negatives.
"Color Pilot" software for 16/32-bit Doze allows you to perform your
own color tweaking. I'm quickly snapping through a 36-exp film with
a use-by of 1996, and will give the cheap processor ONE chance. It
would be interesting to see a comparison from a digital camera. I've
got quite a good 35mm compact by Minox, so less garbage in before any
garbage out. I certainly prefer TV drama which has been shot on film.
Regards,
Jake
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:47:04 -0500
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne
Or Botton wrote:
>
> Hm. Small question - any idea when the next version of Arachne is
> expected to arrive? 1.70b3 really need a replacement. Quite alot
> of problems. Also, I havent gotten any reply about the bug reports
> sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or comments sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] latly...
Hi Or, he's not talking to me either. <G>
I believe he's working on the next Linux version.
Or maybe even a non I'86 platform ?
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:36:34 -0500
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Film processing labs offering "pics on disks" (OT)]
Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
>
> P.S. My biggest complaint about film processing labs is that whenever I
> take a roll of 35 mm. slide film in for developing and write perfectly
> clear instructions in large upper case letters, "DEVELOP ONLY. DO NOT
> CUT FILM. DO NOT MOUNT SLIDES", can you guess what happens?
> -----
> Back in the early 1960's film processing envelopes always came with a box
> that the customer could check for "stereo slides". In those days the folks
> who worked in the labs always knew exactly how to handle the job.
> Furthermore, they always knew how to cut and mount them just as well as if
> you had done the job yourself.
Sam, I understand your frustration with the "favors" these people insist
on doing to you. <G>
Perhaps you should try to find one of the labs used by professional
photographers.
No, they don't all do their own film developing.
Some find it unnecessarily boring.
But they are likely to do all their own printing.
I think you might find these labs can follow instructions.
You aren't likely to get your stereo slides mounted, but at least you
should be able to get the film back uncut.
Good luck.
- - Clarence Verge
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:17:14 -0700
From: "Thomas Tabler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: possibly last word from Tom on subject of real men
Dear List:
On Saturday, May 12, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>>Anybody who talks like that deserves to be crucified! If that is
>>what you mean by real men, then I am proud of my femininity!
On Saturday, May 12, Samuel Heywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>you can drive nails through the hands of a real man and he will
>>suffer excruciating pain, but he....{rest snipped}
Dear List:
Perhaps. I, like many of my generation, possibly are insecure
in their manhood. Perhaps I also missed a few points of Sam. But we
all are persons, and persons have problems. Perhaps all of you don't
have a sister who has not worked 60 days in her chosen pro-
fession yet, nor have a pastor who is over 65 years old that has a
hard time updating his mailing List. Nor do you work two jobs.
Perhaps you don't live in a society dominated by envy of the nearby
employer Microsoft, nor talk to a man who lived in another state who
is going to Redmond in the morning to work on their "campus". Perhaps
you don't work at a service station or a hotel. Or do you see
blue-collar men who start work at 4 a.m., and drive 40 miles to get
to work in bad traffic, who raise three children and have two game
systems, a T.V., and a computer newer than mine at home and complain
about the price of a small cup of coffee. Who work twelve hour days
for 5 or 6 days, drive home, play with the kids, kiss the wife, chop
wood, and fall asleep in front of the T.V. after downing one beer.
Perhaps you are not an usher/or sexton of a church that has less than
five show most Sundays. Perhaps you are not a Christian who has to
sell pornography at work or hear the complaints of the night auditor.
Perhaps you go on vacations on occassion. Perhaps this is not your life.
It is mine. I am not an expert on real men.
Yours,
Thomas Tabler/"tomstfor"
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 17:35:30 -0700
From: "Thomas Tabler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: new debate over definition of real men
On Sat. May 12 Thomas Mueller<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anybody who talks like that ought to be crucified!, etc.,etc....
On Sat. May 12 Sam Heywood said <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
A real man you can drive nails into his palms and he will suffer
excruciating pain, but it will not "faze" him. {paraphrased}
{snipped}
And he can be very gentle, too...
>>Gee folks, this looks like a very interesting discussion that
I can relate too! Maybe we can get the women on the List to join
in on this?? How dominated is this list by male writers? I haven't
heard much from any of the women, all but L.D. seems to have gone
into hiding! Maybe they are worried they will have to see us in
a bad place...
Yours,
Thomas/"tomstfor" still using Arachne ver. 1.65, etc., etc....
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