Thank's Joe.

 

It is a contraction of a sentence I was going to submit as the title of a
paper for BMC Engage, but I couldn't figure out what category to put it in
and gave up. Here is my full sentence:

"As IT Professionals we must remember that while we endeavor to make the
complex possible, and the difficult easier, we must also ensure that we keep
the simple simple".

 

Dan

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: July 30, 2014 3:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

Love that line "Keep the Simple Simple, make the difficult possible.."

 

Joe

 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of arslist
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 2:34 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

Onsite version is the old version of Service Now since they say developed
for the cloud.

At one point they claimed they were phasing out all onsite installations.

 

If they have changed their mind they have just weakened their message.

 

ServiceNow definitely wins in terms of simplicity and marketing. Needing to
know only their stuff and java scripting keeps life simple too.

 

BMC loses in having lost sight of the biggest strength (IMHO) of Remedy, a
really advanced development tool that they made a bit too difficult to use.

 

Most of ServiceNow messaging is based on the Remedy mantra of the 1990s and
claiming to be built on the cloud etc.

 

I have said for 7 years now: give me the speed to do the simple back in
Developer Studio, like we could in the Administrator tool.

[yes there are more advanced things and stuff like overlays that are great
in Developer Studio, but for me that the simple takes forever now overrides
the benefits, as I told the creators in 2007 when they first showed it].

Give me a lightweight application like ITSM7, or version 4..

 

Come to think of it, is there any functionality that isn't superior in
Remedy "ITSM" Version 4.5.X than Service Now?

 

Keep the Simple Simple, make the difficult possible.

 

Dan 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: July 30, 2014 1:24 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

Thanks for the correction. I thought it was not possible to modify
structural definitions in their database.

 

The newer version (onsite option) seems to be an interesting direction they
are headed in and definitely a competitor to the AR System as a developers
platform..

 

Joe

 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:17 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

Joe - Definitely not true.  You can look this up on the ServiceNow
Wikipedia.  It is easier to add fields in AR System Dev Studio, but not by
much.  Plus, ServiceNow leads in personalization.  Also, you can't put
fields exactly where you want in ServiceNow, you have to put them in a
general section. kind of similar to salesforce.com/Remedyforce.

 

 

 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:44 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

Correct. And you cannot add fields - you can move them around to make the
picture prettier. If you want a new field like for e.g. Alternate Requester
Name - easily done in Remedy. Cannot be done in SNOW.

 

>From what I heard, any change that impacts the data structure in SNOW is not
possible. Is child's play literally in Remedy.

 

Agreed that could be a double edged sword. Very powerful if you know what
you are doing - quite destructive otherwise.

 

Joe

 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:36 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

It's probably customizable in the same way that FrontRange is technically
customizable, but only using a proprietary BPML programming interface.
That's not as easy to learn or quick to work in as the AR System interface,
nor is it as flexible or as extensible.  I've yet to see a faster prototype
engine than the AR System, and have also yet to see a business process that
it can't be made to track.

Rick

 

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:32 AM, John Baker <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Joe

I thought SNOW was customisable "to an extent", and in a sense, BMC are
pushing exactly the same concept, ie overlays, painful to change
something, a sense that core ITSM is all that really matters etc.
Customisation is a double edged sword: it's very powerful, but it's very
expensive to support.


John 

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