I did read last week  that Apple are testing new Lipo anode design right now 
that gives twice current capacity at same weight and size.



> On 18 Sep 2016, at 5:54 AM, Simon Hackett <si...@base64.com.au> wrote:
> 
> “What he said” - I’m curious about that too. 
> 
> Brand, $$, availability, and (importantly, also) size? 
> 
> My long term dream is to throw the Rotax 914F out of my Stemme and replace it 
> with batteries and an electric motor, and if a combination of both existed 
> that had roughly the same total mass, the result would be transformative (in 
> my view). 
> 
> “Go ahead, make my day” :)
> 
> Cheers,
>  Simon
> 
>> On 17 Sep 2016, at 8:23 PM, Peter Champness <plchampn...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:plchampn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> What new battery technology is that?
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Mike Borgelt 
>> <mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com <mailto:mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> There is also a GP15 15 meter version under construction. Same fuselage as 
>> the 13.5 M version. Nicer looking than the Diana 2.
>> The wing sure looks similar to that on a Diana 2 but with winglets. The 13.5 
>> M version wing weighs 31 Kg each side. Easy to rig by one person.
>> The 15M looks to be a seriously good competition glider with a very wide 
>> wing loading range. Electric self launch too. (Fully retractable, not the 
>> silly FES). 
>> A welcome change from the trend to making gliders converge on the B-52.
>> There is some new battery tech on the horizon too which will mean a 
>> 10Kw-hour battery weighs only 25 Kg. Allegedly will be safer than current 
>> Li-ion tech too. This should be enough for a launch and subsequent climb of 
>> at least 8000 feet.
>> However will the sport cope with all self launching gliders?
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 04:52 PM 9/17/2016, you wrote:
>>> The glider Ron is referring to, is the GP14 Velo http://www.gpgliders.com/ 
>>> <http://www.gpgliders.com/> , which is still under construction as far as I 
>>> know, and nothing to do with the Diana 2.
>>> 
>>> The Diana 2 is type certified, as of last year.
>>> https://www.easa.europa.eu/system/files/dfu/TCDS_A_451_SZD-56_Diana_issue_02.pdf
>>>  
>>> <https://www.easa.europa.eu/system/files/dfu/TCDS_A_451_SZD-56_Diana_issue_02.pdf>
>>>  
>>> The 13.5m Diana 2 "Versus" exists and is almost certainly the best 13.5m 
>>> glider.
>>> 
>>> Beres Bogumił, the man behind the Diana 2 passed away earlier in the year.
>>> What happened after that is a bit murky, but my understanding is the assets 
>>> were sold to SZD (there's multiple SZD's, it's confusing), who is once 
>>> again producing the Diana 2, and *allegedly* producing one with a fuselage 
>>> that has lower angle of attack on the ground, and an 18m stretch.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Tom & Kerrie Claffey <tom.ker...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:tom.ker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Nope,
>>> The Versus (13.5M experimental version of Diana2) was flown by Stefano 
>>> Giorgio who won the first 13.5M WGC in it. The glider Sebastian was going 
>>> to fly, but they ran out of time, is a different, all new glider. 
>>> Since then the 13.5 M class is supposed to go electric self launch.
>>> I think the 15M Diana 2 is soon out of the WGC due to time from prototype 
>>> to certification. 
>>> (There is some limit)
>>> Having seen a few of them I would not own one, talk to Mak.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, 17 September 2016, Ron Sanders <resand...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:resand...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hey guys out there,
>>> 
>>> Anyone know what is happening with the Diana 2 these days??
>>> 
>>> Last i heard was  a 13.5 metre version was gonna be flown by Sebastian 
>>> Kawa at some GP thing and it didn't make it.
>>> 
>>> Ron
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