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  Re: radiator replacement on 97 M3
  Re: radiator replacement on 97 M3
  Re: Coolant level sensor replacement on 328i
  Re: Coolant level sensor replacement on 328i
  Re: Battery Drain?
  Re: Radiator replacement on 97 M3
  Re: Radiator replacement on 97 M3
  Re: Wheel Compatability
  E38 Oil filter problem resolved!
  Thunderhill event on Thanks Giving weekend
  FS 525i S3.23 Diff

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:25:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: radiator replacement on 97 M3
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Howdy,

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Jay G wrote:
> does the fan really need to come off???  i didnt take a closer look at it
> yet, but i thought i could just swap the old for the new...
> 
> any other tips/tricks/things to look out for???  any and all help greatly
> appreciated...thanx guys/girlz

>From memory, and I'm sure there are folks here that have done more of 
these than me...

Yes, the fan needs to come off.  You need to get that off to get room to 
get the plastic shroud off/out, and there's a hose on the bottom that's 
kinda a PITA.

Getting the fan off was straight forward for me... Big wrench and a 
hammer.  Its reverse threaded as I recall.  Put the wrench on there and 
whack the end with a hammer to give it an impact.  A few whacks and the 
nut was loose for me both times I've had to do it.  Even if not 100% 
required, its pretty easy to do and gives you a lot more room to work.

Mark


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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:50 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: radiator replacement on 97 M3
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Both the E30 and E34 radiators with attached shroud will slide straight up 
with the fan in place.  E36s may be different in that regard.
Gary Derian

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> Howdy,
>
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Jay G wrote:
>> does the fan really need to come off???  i didnt take a closer look at it
>> yet, but i thought i could just swap the old for the new...
>>
>> any other tips/tricks/things to look out for???  any and all help greatly
>> appreciated...thanx guys/girlz
>
> From memory, and I'm sure there are folks here that have done more of
> these than me...
>
> Yes, the fan needs to come off.  You need to get that off to get room to
> get the plastic shroud off/out, and there's a hose on the bottom that's
> kinda a PITA.
>
> Getting the fan off was straight forward for me... Big wrench and a
> hammer.  Its reverse threaded as I recall.  Put the wrench on there and
> whack the end with a hammer to give it an impact.  A few whacks and the
> nut was loose for me both times I've had to do it.  Even if not 100%
> required, its pretty easy to do and gives you a lot more room to work.
>
> Mark
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:13:01 -0700
From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Coolant level sensor replacement on 328i
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Quoting Marc Plante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> laft side of the
> radiator

I think you mean "left" :-)

And, technically, it's on the *right* side of the radiator - all "left or
"right" side locations are referenced to someone sitting IN the car, facing
forwards (i.e "right-hand drive" or "left-hand drive", as one example.)

(But yes, left side if one is standing in front of the car, looking into the
engine compartment - classic "your left, or my left?" situation :-))

Pedantically yours <g>,
Jim Bassett

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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:41:38 -0500
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Coolant level sensor replacement on 328i
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You now know where it is, but before you replace it, test it.  With the
expansion tank at the correct level, it should be a closed circuit.  Low
coolant, open circuit.

If the sensor tests OK, tighten the pins in the connector for the sensor by
squeezing them closed slightly.  This is the problem 85% of the time.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----
> Can anyone tell me the exact location of the coolant
> level sensor on a 328i?  My car keeps telling me the
> coolant level is low, but I know it isn't.
>
> I've got a cheap repair manual, but I can't find it in
> the manual.  I think I've located it, but it is not
> the same as the new one I bought, so I'm not sure if
> it is the correct sensor.
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:00:55 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Battery Drain?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 11/17/04 10:20 AM, P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is anyone aware of any issues with battery drains on
> 328ic?  In particular, my boss had a '98 328ic vert,
> and the battery will be dead in about a week if it is
> not started.  I believe he has checked the battery and
> ruled that out as the problem.

In my car it was "refrigerator light syndrome."

The trunk light switch had failed to the on position. Since my car has
folding rear seat backs it was easy enough to find. If it doesn't turn out
to be something obvious like that, you'll need to put an ammeter on the
battery and start pulling fuses one by one until the excess current drain
goes away.

Of course it could be something even more obvious, such as the battery
crapping out and failing to hold a charge.

Neil
96 M3



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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:11:35 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Radiator replacement on 97 M3
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 11/17/04 10:20 AM, Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> does the fan really need to come off???  i didnt take a closer look at it
> yet, but i thought i could just swap the old for the new...

You need the clearance to get the fan shroud out of the way. You can get the
thin 32mm wrench you need inexpensively at a bike shop.

> any other tips/tricks/things to look out for???

Check the water pump, replace the thermostat in any case and buy a new metal
t'stat housing ($30 or so) instead of the stock plastic one. Replace the two
big radiator hoses.

You'll dump lots of coolant on the ground. Make sure you can hose it away.
Coolant is very toxic to animals, and apparently (hey, I've never tried any)
has an attractively sweet taste.

Use real BMW coolant ($$) and distilled water ($2 at the supermarket).

Neil
96 M3



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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:05:18 -1000
From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Radiator replacement on 97 M3
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

thank you to all of you who replied, publicly and privately, about changing
out the radiator...i'll tackle it sometime next week, and give an update of
how things went!  thanx again!


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:56:51 -0500
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wheel Compatability
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


E39 (5-series) cannot use wheels from earlier models without
the wheels being machined.  the centerbore - the hole in the middle
of the wheel which is the hub-centric mounting surface for the
wheel - is larger on an E39.  consequently you can use E39
wheels on other series with use of a (preferrably metal)
centering ring.

I am not familiar with what centerbore the newer
5/6/7 series cars use, but I at worst you'd need to use
the centering rings if you were using a newer wheel on
an older car.

you can reduce offset (E36 wheels) to allow them to be run on
cars which require a lower offset (E34, E28, E24, etc) but you
cannot add offset to a wheel without machining it (this is not
advisable either as you're taking away material from the hub
of the wheel which would necessarily reduce it's strength).

offsets are not all the same across chassis types.
E36 & E46 are generally 35-45mm offset.  E28, E34, E32,
E23, E39 & E38 all have approx 15-25mm offset.  E31 are
slightly oddball but use roughly the same offset as E34's, tho
slightly less in most applications.

E36 & E46 wheels are generally directly swappable, with
E46's having more fender room for some larger wheel/tie
combinations than E36's.

E28, E34, E24, E32, E31 & E23 wheels are generally
interchangeable, tho wider wheels with wider tires will
run into problems on some cars, specifically E28's.  the
mye28.com guys have a pretty comprehensive FAQ about
E28 wheel fitments, haven't seen something similar for
other chassis types.

if you have a specific set of wheels in mind for a specific
car you're better off asking about that.

none of thise cross-over talk applies to E30's as they have
4x100mm bolt spacing & therefore aren't going to work with
the 5x120mm spacing of everything else.  E21 wheels have
less offset than E30's, but will work on an E30 as long as the
tires are not too wide.  E30 wheels on E21's & 2002's are
possible but there are other details to work out.



Ben


Larry wrote:

> I was searching through the archives, but can't find what wheels
> from what model will fit other models...
>
> For example, the rims off an E34 will fit and E36, or the rims
> off an E46 will fit and E39 etc...  Seems to me I remember that
> all the rims had the same offsets and patterns except for the 7
> series... is that correct?
> Has anyone put together a chart on what rims will fit what cars?


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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:56:16 -0500
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'BMW List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E38 Oil filter problem resolved!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Previously, I wrote, regarding a 2001 E38 740:

<snip>
>Well, my friend went to replace that little black plastic cylinder (the
pressure relief valve) in the oil filter housing, after we had to remove it
to take out a piece of grit.  This cylinder has three thin prongs at the
bottom, possibly to retain it in the hole at the bottom of the housing.
JUST AS I cautioned him, "be careful, those prongs are kinda thin-looking",
he mutters, sh*t. Yup.  Those three little prongs broke off.  And are
sitting in the bottom of this little hole in the bottom of the housing.
_______________

This was followed with a plaintive cry to the list for help.

Thanks (as always!) to Brett Anderson of Koala Motorsports, Paul Dzimian,
Shop Foreman of Motorwerks BMW, and Mr. Landshark himself, Jim Conforti, for
their very helpful advice.

We replaced the filter housing entirely, as we broke the pressure relief
valve.  I was concerned that this would be a difficult job, but Brett gave
me a (virtual) slap in the face and pointed out that even a moron like me
could do it.  Jim kindly sent detailed instructions on how to R&R the three
hoses and sensor.  Amazingly enough, the whole procedure took about 20
minutes (which would have been faster had we not been the most cautious,
deliberate DIY mechanics in the world at this point).  Buttoned it all up,
and not a drop of seepage.  

So, thanks to the aforementioned as well as this great list!

Vty,

--Dennis









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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:01:19 -0800
From: "Ziv Gillat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Thunderhill event on Thanks Giving weekend
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

I just talked to Aaron, from SpeedVentures, and he mentioned that there are
plenty of open spaces for the Thunderhill event, on Thanks giving weekend.
Check out their site at http://www.speedventures.net/

Take care ---

Ziv.



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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:46:37 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FS 525i S3.23 Diff
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The subject diff (medium case) came out of my 91 525i @ 223,xxx miles. It needs 
a new pinion bearing, but otherwise was fine when pulled. Make me a reasonable 
offer offline. Buyer pays shipping (75 pounds) from Va.

Cheers,
Steve

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