The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 713 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: E36, 39, 46 Microfilters Re: <e30> speaking of torque Edge Motorworks -SPECIAL!! - UPCOMING O'FEST '05 ANNOUNCEMENT Re: Bad Chip? Re: Bad Chip? Re: Bad Chip? Re: Bad Chip? Re: Bad Chip? Re: Bad Chip? Re: Bad Chip? Re: Bad Chip? <E30> Steering Rack Question <E46> Extended oil change interval?
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:37:06 -0700 From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E36, 39, 46 Microfilters Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re recent thread on these filters with and without the charcoal - Everyone be advised that: BMP sells "Micron carbon" filters - (my added quotes) that in spite of the labeling are just plain filters - NO charcoal. http://www.bmpdesign.com/product-exec/product_id/1985/category_id/132/ search_year/2000/search_model/9 When I sent them two successive e-mails about a week apart to their customer service inquiring about this and asking about the charcoal filters, I was totally ignored. Buyer BEWARE!!!!!! Harvey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:27:39 -0700 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <e30> speaking of torque Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:36:15 -0400 >From: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: <e30> speaking of torque >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <snip> >> 4. My biggest problem with these types of conversions is that, after >> dropping countless thousands of dollars into the car, the insurance >> company still insures it based on the VIN. > >nope. declared value w/a professional appraisal means you can >insure for your "investment" in the project. I've done it twice. of >course in Kalifornia you have to worry about making it CARB >legal. > >Ben A couple of years ago I was thinking of buying an E28 528e that had gone through a very thorough, quite well done M5 conversion. Literally everything needed to make the car an M5 was there. But the body was still from the 528e, and the VIN agreed. I called a half dozen insurance companies about insurance, my current one (State Farm) included. Most would not touch a stated value insurance policy. The few that would sell stated value insurance would do so only for show cars or cars that were otherwise "limited use", like 2500 miles a year. The company through which the seller had insured (the company escapes me just now) would sell stated value insurance to their long-time customers, but not to new customers. This is the main reason why I didn't buy the car. Yes, maybe I just didn't know the right company to call. Maybe it is different in other states. Whatever, all I know is that I was not prepared to spend in the neighborhood of $10K for a car and risk kissing most of that off if the car needed more than $1500 in repairs (this would effectively total a 528e of similar mileage). And other locals have told me similar stories. As for CARB, the process for certification is relatively straight forward. Whatever smog controls were on place on the donor car would be required on the recipient car. Properly done engine swaps happen all the time. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA Only a week behind on UUC posts ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:36:36 -0700 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Edge Motorworks Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.edgemotorworks.com/ Click on Project ///M344. They document the build, including how they dealt with the oil pan. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:14:19 -0700 >From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: <e30> speaking of torque >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >they have? Ohhhh I want to see it. I wonder if the wife would notice if >the M62 were missing out of her car.... > >Marco > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott & Charlotte >Miller >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:37 PM >To: UUC Digest >Cc: John Bolhuis >Subject: Re: [UUC] <e30> speaking of torque > >3. V8 conversions should not be dismissed. The guys at Edge >Motorworks in Dublin (CA) have put a V8 from a 540i into their E36. >There is no reason to believe that a similar conversion couldn't be >done in the E30 chassis. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:38:13 -0500 From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: -SPECIAL!! - UPCOMING O'FEST '05 ANNOUNCEMENT Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I hope y'all don't get mad at this for consuming bandwidth, but I have a project going I need a bunch of help with. It is BMW related... =================== So what's all this about? For the upcoming Oktoberfest '05, being held in Greensboro, September 17-23, we (read that: BMWCCA) are doing something special, and for the first time. We are producing a video of the event! We plan to include most if not all the various events, the people, the cars, in short, THE WHOLE SHEEBANG! The final DVD will be available to all chapters! This is an official club effort, not my own personal project. I am acting on behalf of the 'home office'. This is going to be one tough cookie to pull off. The week is filled with activities to cover and will easily eat up 12 or more hours of tape, EACH DAY. Obviously, one person cannot possibly cover it all. By the end of the week, we hope to have 100+ hours of tape to edit. This is where you come in. We need help recruiting volunteers to work on the production. What I am asking from you is consider volunteering for the Crew Call or at least talk it up with other members you know are going to OFest '05.. September is CLOSING IN FAST! I cannot stress enough how quickly the word needs to get out to your people. There is much planning to be done on my end of the project, and the sooner I can get a handle on how many volunteers we will have, the better. So please, please, please... Cut and paste away, and distribute this puppy to every member you can. I'll appreciate it greatly. Jenny Morgan ===================== ===================== ANNOUNCEMENT CAST AND CREW CALL for BMW CCA VIDEO PRODUCTION Location: Greensboro, North Carolina When: OKTOBERFEST '05 - September 17-23, 2005 WORKING TITLE: OktoberFest '05 - The Movie Producer: BMW CCA Director: Jenny Morgan Videographers: YOU! Treatise: The week long celebration of all things BMW is THE National Club event that brings in members from all over the North American continent. A crowd of 1000+ members and their families, is expected to join in a celebration of our favorite marque, through a full calendar of events that straddle each and every day. This film will be a record of that week and all its events, people, images, activities and memories. We intend to cover all events that transpire that week as well as interview certain administrative individuals, organizers and attendees. A short list of events to be covered is: Driving School, Club Races, Autocross, Gymkhana Concours, Isetta celebration, TSD Rallye, Street Survival, Dinners, Awards Banquet, and more! WE NEED VOLUNTEER PERSONNEL! The following jobs are open and need to be filled as soon as possible: Videographers (4-6 needed) Video Assistants (4-6 needed) Sound Wranglers Gaffers (2-3 needed for certain events) Here's the details. VIDEOGRAPHERS - MUST possess their own equipment (handicam) and it MUST be either Digital8 or MiniDV format. NO ANALOG. IT MUST BE CAPABLE of 16-bit sound (check your owner's manual if you are not sure). Videographers MUST have enough battery reserve for up to 4-8 hours of shooting on any given day, and the capability to charge those batteries each evening. Videographers MUST have a tripod. Add on lighting would be nice, but not required. External mics would be nice, but are not required. ADD-ON LENSES (telephoto and wide angle) ARE STRONGLY RECOMMENDED, but not required. Although fully trained, experienced videographers or film students would be GREAT, I realize that most of y'all are amateurs. BUT THAT WILL DO JUST FINE! We can help you become a better shooter and help you to think like an editor. WE WILL SUPPLY ALL TAPE! VIDEOGRAPHER'S ASSISTANTS - MUST be willing to be on their feet much of the time and moving with the Videographer. Your job will be to assist. Manage and label tapes, help keep people near the camera quiet, provide pathways for the videographer when the camera is in their face, carrying cold beverages... in short, whatever the videographers needs and can't take their eye out of the viewfinder to take care of themselves. This is a great position for a spouse, a sibling or a daughter or son. SOUND WRANGLER - I'd love to have a real Sound engineer to make digital sound for us, but I have no budget. So, if you'ld like to volunteer yourself, a digital deck and the boom guy, I'd love to have ya at the track and the banquets. And honestly, I'm sure you'll be able to teach me a thing or two. I've never had my own sound guy. GAFFERS - When we do interviews, banquets and some other activities, we will have lighting to schlep around and set-up, canopies and reflectors for shadow control, and other 'assistant' related duties. You need to be friendly, cooperative and smart... All Gaffers are smart, what am I saying... Want to be part of Club history? CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY! email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 414-264-2694 We would like to establish the volunteer list ASAP so the sooner you contact, the better. ==================== ==================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:49:37 -0700 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Bad Chip? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aftermarket US chips are based on the stock us spec position. You could try one click over w/ the Dinan chip but the results will be totally unpredicatable, since the switch already changes ignition and injector timing. Point of the mod is that aftermarket chips are not needed with ETA motors, except for the '88 SuperETA which doesn't have the switch. Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >So rotating the knob does what exactly? And does it have to be rotated for >the Dinan chip to work properly? >thanks, >Ryan- > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:26:47 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "JKerouac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: Bad Chip? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So turning the knob one or two clicks will have the same effect if I was to install a chip? Sorry I am not getting this, I just have never heard of it before (not that I doubt it). Ryan- Aftermarket US chips are based on the stock us spec position. > You could try one click over w/ the Dinan chip but the results will > be totally unpredicatable, since the switch already changes ignition and > injector timing. > Point of the mod is that aftermarket chips are not needed with ETA > motors, except for the '88 SuperETA which doesn't have the switch. > Barry > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>So rotating the knob does what exactly? And does it have to be rotated >> for >>the Dinan chip to work properly? >>thanks, >>Ryan- >> > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:23:03 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Bad Chip? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Early DMEs did have an adjustment for fuel and ignition. There are settings for +/- fuel and timing in I believe 4 or 6 combinations. A properly tuned chip can do more, such as raised rev limiter and top speed limiter, and can adjust fuel for different engine equipment. Gary Derian ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "JKerouac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] Bad Chip? > So turning the knob one or two clicks will have the same effect if I was > to install a chip? Sorry I am not getting this, I just have never heard > of it before (not that I doubt it). > Ryan- > > > > > Aftermarket US chips are based on the stock us spec position. >> You could try one click over w/ the Dinan chip but the results will >> be totally unpredicatable, since the switch already changes ignition and >> injector timing. >> Point of the mod is that aftermarket chips are not needed with ETA >> motors, except for the '88 SuperETA which doesn't have the switch. >> Barry >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>>So rotating the knob does what exactly? And does it have to be rotated >>> for >>>the Dinan chip to work properly? >>>thanks, >>>Ryan- >>> >> > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:15:39 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Bad Chip? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I turned the knob one click and test drove the car. It is noticebly different, and I will try it for a while in this position or atleast until I figure out the bad chip thing, or get another one. The fuel will probably have to be adjusted though b/c there is a hesitation during acceleration between second and third gear. It is nice to be able to tune the DME this way, but I agree with Gary that I would like to have the red line moved and the extra potential ponies that the chip will ensure. My whole reason for getting the B27 over the B25 was the reliability of the ETA. I drive 70 miles a day (six days a week) to and from work, school, and back home. I have a year left and then I will probably upgrade to something else before grad. school. I am so amazed at how reliable this car is. Every morning I turn the key and it starts right up. It is a great improvement over my M10 E21 that I used to drive everyday (I had to rebuild it twice in six years due to oil pump issues and missing a gear with the dog leg tranny(when I was 16:))). I don't want to do anything to the the E30 that will compromise the integrity of its purpose. thanks Barry and Gary. Ryan- The basis is flipping the switch. Any chip change will also require > dialing in the AFM gear to whatever state the engine is otherwise in to, > and if you have the adjustable ICV (hope that you do), an adjustment of > the base idle speed. Most older engines as is will benefit from a tooth > or two richer or leaner on the gear, so dialing it in might be an > improvement on your engine by itself. > If one click is an improvement, track your economy and do some > timing runs in single gears. 2500rpm to redline in third is a good > measure of the overall powerband. Try the second position after > spending some time and miles getting the feel of how it runs in the > first position. > Good luck, > Barry > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>Search the >>>>ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>>__________________________________________________________________________ >>>>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW >>>> CCA. >>>> >>>>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >>>>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >>>>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh. >>> I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn it >>>off and use a Mac. " Author Unknown >>> Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft >>> product. >>> -- Ferenc Mantfeld >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh. > I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn it > off and use a Mac. " Author Unknown > Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. > -- Ferenc Mantfeld > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:43:09 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Bad Chip? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What makes you believe the M20B27 is more reliable than the M20B25? Regards, Rich > -----Original Message----- > > My whole reason for getting the B27 over the B25 was the reliability of > the ETA. I drive 70 miles a day (six days a week) to and from work, > school, and back home. I have a year left and then I will probably > upgrade to something else before grad. school. I am so amazed at how > reliable this car is. Every morning I turn the key and it starts right > up. It is a great improvement over my M10 E21 that I used to drive > everyday (I had to rebuild it twice in six years due to oil pump issues > and missing a gear with the dog leg tranny(when I was 16:))). I don't > want to do anything to the the E30 that will compromise the integrity of > its purpose. thanks Barry and Gary. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:23:32 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Bad Chip? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The chip is bad. Gary Derian >I recently acquired a "used" Dinan chip for my 87 B27 (eta). With the > chip installed, the motor just cranks...it doesn't even sound like it is > going to start. When I put my old chip back in, everything is fine. Do > these things go bad? All the prongs on it are strong (structurally the > chip is sound) and it goes in just the same as my old chip. Am I missing > something during installation that is causing it not to work? If it is > bad then I will just buy a new one from Dinan with a warranty, but I am > worried that I will have the same problem and in buying a new one, I could > potentially just waste money(although it would have a warranty). > Thanks, > Ryan- > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:14:13 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bad Chip? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not sure if the chip is similar in configuration to the E36 one 1) make sure the notch is on the correct side 2) if you haven't re-installed it yet try it again - a friends E36 was doing the same thing with a "new" chip and I took it out and reseated it and it's worked ever since 3) or the chip is bad. it doesn't take much static to wipe one out. >I recently acquired a "used" Dinan chip for my 87 B27 (eta). With the > chip installed, the motor just cranks...it doesn't even sound like it is > going to start. When I put my old chip back in, everything is fine. Do > these things go bad? All the prongs on it are strong (structurally the > chip is sound) and it goes in just the same as my old chip. Am I missing > something during installation that is causing it not to work? If it is > bad then I will just buy a new one from Dinan with a warranty, but I am > worried that I will have the same problem and in buying a new one, I could > potentially just waste money(although it would have a warranty). > Thanks, > Ryan- > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Bad Chip? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have tried re seating it maybe four times all with the same result. I also made sure the notch was on the right side as well. There was one time that I couldn't get the car started after installing my old one, but when I pulled it and reseated it, it was fine. Thanks for the suggestion, I might try it again (i am losing confidence though). Ryan- Not sure if the chip is similar in configuration to the E36 one > > 1) make sure the notch is on the correct side > 2) if you haven't re-installed it yet try it again - a friends E36 was > doing > the same thing with a "new" chip and I took it out and reseated it and > it's > worked ever since > 3) or the chip is bad. it doesn't take much static to wipe one out. > > >>I recently acquired a "used" Dinan chip for my 87 B27 (eta). With the >> chip installed, the motor just cranks...it doesn't even sound like it is >> going to start. When I put my old chip back in, everything is fine. Do >> these things go bad? All the prongs on it are strong (structurally the >> chip is sound) and it goes in just the same as my old chip. Am I >> missing >> something during installation that is causing it not to work? If it is >> bad then I will just buy a new one from Dinan with a warranty, but I am >> worried that I will have the same problem and in buying a new one, I >> could >> potentially just waste money(although it would have a warranty). >> Thanks, >> Ryan- >> Search the >> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW >> CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:54:40 -0700 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>, "E30 Yahoo Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: <E30> Steering Rack Question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is the 1990 E30 325i steering rack supposed to have an identical appearance to the E30 M3 steering rack? Are the attached lines for the fluid supposed to have the same configuration? I only ask because I bought an E30 M3 rack, but what showed up at my door does not look like the one in the car. TIA, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA 1990 325i needs a rack ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:50:24 -0500 From: Bob Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <E46> Extended oil change interval? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Looked at an E46 328i I was considering buying today...'99, 64K miles...beautiful car...I was astounded after having looked under the valve cover, through the oil filler hole. I couldn't believe the dark brown, crusty residue all over everything I could see. This thing looked like it had 164K neglected miles on it to me. Owner says he had the oil changed at the dealer "about every 10K...though the recommended interval is 15K". What's going on here? Is this typical of those cars that are maintained according to BMWs recommendations? Wow. 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