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Volume 2 : Issue 719 : "text" Format

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  Re: <e60> Conti in the m5
  Looking for E36 rear speaker boxes
  <E30> oil leak
  Re: <E30> oil leak
  Re: <E30> oil leak
  Re: <E30> oil leak
  Re: <E30> oil leak
  <E36> Rear headrests
  Re: <E36> Rear headrests
  Re: <E36> Rear headrests
  Re: <E36> Rear headrests
  FYI - 2002/M3 conversion (kit) for sale
  <FS> PCar wheels
  Re: <FS> PCar wheels

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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:13:27 -0700
From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <e60> Conti in the m5
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> some blah blah blah but otherwise interesting tidbits:
> 
> http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050629/dew016.html?.v=35

I love TLA-laden PR.

Let me get this straight: the MK60E5 has HSA, RBS, RBA, DDS (which BMW 
prefers to call RPA) and they've added MDM for BMW M GmbH.  Aw, that 
seems to be all, I'm so disappointed.  I guess that's enough for one ABS 
controller.

As for the round black things, we've got 235/45-17 SportContact2s on my 
wife's 540iA.  I love 'em.  They feel a lot like a quieter S-02.  They 
are a little more aggressive than that car really needs for its role in 
life, but they're on the short list for the next set for the M5.

John.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:25:55 -0700
From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Looking for E36 rear speaker boxes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If anybody has a set of E36 rear speakers laying around from a race car 
project or part-out that you want to get rid of, shoot me a line.

I'm mainly interested in the enclosures, so the condition or presence 
of the drivers is not important.  The only caveat is that they must be 
from an early E36 where the plug is on the bottom, not from the later 
cars that use the itty-bitty connector on the top next to the driver.


Thx,
Herman


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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:31:43 -0500
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: <E30> oil leak
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Pardon if this is a repeat, but I didn't see it come through.

The car is an '87 325iS w/about 247k.  It hadn't been leaking enough oil 
to make a spot on the ground, just some wetness in various places 
underneath.

After a recent day at the track it left a 6" wet spot in my driveway 
w/in an hour.  The leaking has slowed and is now almost stopped.  The 
oil comes out from the small weep slot in the bell housing (well, that's 
what I call it).  I can't tell if it's engine oil or tranny oil, though 
it's dark and I had just changed engine oil the week before track.

I suppose this can be either the rear main seal or the front tranny 
seal, but wonder if anyone else has had considerable leaking due to 
tracking but otherwise no problem.  The clutch shows no signs of 
problems, so I wouldn't care to pull everything just for an oil leak.

Thoughts and recommendations appreciated.

Clarence
West Bend, WI

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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:44:36 -0500
From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E30> oil leak
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Pan gasket.


On Jun 30, 2005, at 7:31 AM, Clarence wrote:

> Pardon if this is a repeat, but I didn't see it come through.
>
> The car is an '87 325iS w/about 247k.  It hadn't been leaking enough  
> oil to make a spot on the ground, just some wetness in various places  
> underneath.
>
> After a recent day at the track it left a 6" wet spot in my driveway  
> w/in an hour.  The leaking has slowed and is now almost stopped.  The  
> oil comes out from the small weep slot in the bell housing (well,  
> that's what I call it).  I can't tell if it's engine oil or tranny  
> oil, though it's dark and I had just changed engine oil the week  
> before track.
>
> I suppose this can be either the rear main seal or the front tranny  
> seal, but wonder if anyone else has had considerable leaking due to  
> tracking but otherwise no problem.  The clutch shows no signs of  
> problems, so I wouldn't care to pull everything just for an oil leak.
>
> Thoughts and recommendations appreciated.
>
> Clarence
> West Bend, WI
> Search the  
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________ 
> ___
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW  
> CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:52:53 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E30> oil leak
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 07:44:36AM -0500, Jenny Morgan wrote:
> Pan gasket.

 Furthermore, the m20 pan gasket is something that can't replaced 
without moving the steering rack out of the way, ain't it?

 Mine's been doing the same leak for years.  I took a tip from the pilot 
crowd.  "If it aint' leaking, you're out of oil."

-- 
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 

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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:25:07 -0700
From: donna seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E30> oil leak
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Both my E30s "mark their territory."  It must work, since no other cars have
taken over the garage. :)

The pan gasket on the 325i was an awful job, even on a lift. Bill Arnold
told me, "It's only 4 hours of Hell," but it took us 3x that. All due
respect, Jenny, I'd recommend cleaning the motor to make _really_ sure
that's where it's coming from.  The Bentley's instructions weren't enough; I
had to jack up the motor a little.  I also regret not replacing the oil pump
while in there, just for grins at 130k mi.

Donna


On 6/30/05 8:52 AM, "John Bolhuis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 07:44:36AM -0500, Jenny Morgan wrote:
>> Pan gasket.
> 
>  Furthermore, the m20 pan gasket is something that can't replaced
> without moving the steering rack out of the way, ain't it?
> 
>  Mine's been doing the same leak for years.  I took a tip from the pilot
> crowd.  "If it aint' leaking, you're out of oil."



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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:45:32 -0500
From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>,
   donna seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E30> oil leak
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

All due respect taken.  :)

I would never replace an oil pump just for grins. I can count on on one  
finger the number of bad pumps I've actually seen in my day... in M20s  
anyhow. M10 engines is quite another story.

The diagnosis I'd do would be to pull the inspection cover at the back  
of the pan.  Most often, when the leak is seen at this cover/tranny  
area, it is coming from the right rear edge of the pan gasket or the  
rear pan gasket around the corner from there nearer the rear seal area.

When you pull the cover and look with a flashlight, you can usually see  
the gasket actually 'walking' out from between the pan and block. Also,  
when you pull the cover, check what sort of oil it is in the cover...  
Engine or tranny... They are different oils, have different colors,  
etc.

Lastly, with the prevalence of the crap cork gaskets giving up... It's  
a pretty safe bet.

WHEN YOU REPLACE the gasket... Look for one of the aftermarket all  
fiber gaskets that are available.

If you have a leaky pan gasket, replace it. They can get quite rapid in  
leaking as time goes on and make quite a mess. Plus, do you really  
think it's OK to leak raw oil all over the planet? It's not. Be  
responsible.

The trick in replacing the pan gasket are several.  Use a lift.  Use an  
engine hoist to raise the engine off the mounts until it jamb against  
the firewall. Glue the gasket to the pan. CLEAN the bolts that show any  
rust. When you drop the pan a bit... turn the crank so that all the  
crank lobes towards the back of the engine are out of the way of the  
pan. Drop the pump. The pan should practically fall out.

it will always be a time consuming job. But even on your back, should  
take more than 4-6 hours... 2-3 on a lift with experience.

Jenny



On Jun 30, 2005, at 11:25 AM, donna seeley wrote:

> Both my E30s "mark their territory."  It must work, since no other  
> cars have
> taken over the garage. :)
>
> The pan gasket on the 325i was an awful job, even on a lift. Bill  
> Arnold
> told me, "It's only 4 hours of Hell," but it took us 3x that. All due
> respect, Jenny, I'd recommend cleaning the motor to make _really_ sure
> that's where it's coming from.  The Bentley's instructions weren't  
> enough; I
> had to jack up the motor a little.  I also regret not replacing the  
> oil pump
> while in there, just for grins at 130k mi.
>
> Donna
>
>
> On 6/30/05 8:52 AM, "John Bolhuis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 07:44:36AM -0500, Jenny Morgan wrote:
>>> Pan gasket.
>>
>>  Furthermore, the m20 pan gasket is something that can't replaced
>> without moving the steering rack out of the way, ain't it?
>>
>>  Mine's been doing the same leak for years.  I took a tip from the  
>> pilot
>> crowd.  "If it aint' leaking, you're out of oil."
>
>
> Search the  
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________ 
> ___
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW  
> CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:47:36 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E36> Rear headrests
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Bentley doesn't have any guidance on this.... how do you remove the rear
headrests on the '99 M3?
Secret release button like on the old seats?
I want to clean the windows.

-Kevin


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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:50:22 -0400
From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Rear headrests
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Pull up to full extension, then rock back and forth while pulling up harder.

They're secured by a couple of spring clips that seat in grooves on the head
restraint shafts.

Brett Anderson
KMS

> -----Original Message-----
> Bentley doesn't have any guidance on this.... how do you remove the rear
> headrests on the '99 M3?
> Secret release button like on the old seats?
> I want to clean the windows.
>
> -Kevin




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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:53:48 -0700
From: Greg Cagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> Rear headrests
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I took mine out altogether - no one ever rides back there and they
block vision. IIRC each headrest has a clip thing on one of the
struts that keeps it from coming all the way out as you pull up.
I got to mine by flipping the seatbacks down and reaching up
under the rear deck cover.

- Greg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Bentley doesn't have any guidance on this.... how do you remove the rear
> headrests on the '99 M3?
> Secret release button like on the old seats?
> I want to clean the windows.
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Greg Cagle
gregc at gregcagle dot com

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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:24:36 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Spencer Fong)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> Rear headrests
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

1. Fold down rear seats.

2. Remove the two leather side bolsters by pulling straight towards you. It's 
kind of hard to get a grip, but it doesn't take too much force.

3. See that black hard plastic piece which covers the top of the passthrough? 
You have to remove it. The domed thingys along the top (5 or 6) need to be 
pried up. I gradually worked them up with a screwdriver. When it was exposed 
enough, I grabbed the shaft with pliers. They look like they are meant for one 
time use.

4. Lift up the edge of the rear package shelf an inch or so and you can see the 
clips holding the headrest bars. Use needle nose pliers to remove those clips.

5. You're done.

Alternately, I'm using one of these to clean the back window:

www.drdynamics.com/products/glasswizard/


> Bentley doesn't have any guidance on this.... how do you remove the rear
> headrests on the '99 M3?
> Secret release button like on the old seats?
> I want to clean the windows.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:27:47 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: FYI - 2002/M3 conversion (kit) for sale
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No direct knowledge, but thought someone here might find this interesting...

1969 2002 with E30 M3 engine FS: 
<http://www.craigslist.org/sby/car/81329856.html>

David
96 M3

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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:04:48 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <FS> PCar wheels
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have two , count 'em two, "flat type" 928 wheels Part # 928 361 021 05.
Size is 7J x 16 and ET65.
I think you could consider these vintage they were on the 928's and some of
the 944's.
They're in excellent shape not even curb rash on either. The original
Gatorbacks are also on both if the buyer is looking for originality.
They're also in good shape.

I'd like to sell them. Anyone have a P-Car friend that might be interested
in them, let me know.
I'm trying to determine a logical price for them, if someone has any
insight let me know.

Thanks.
-Kevin


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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:51:13 -0400
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <FS> PCar wheels
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Two thoughts:
1. rennlist.org classifieds
2. eBay
Good luck.
- Jay
no P-cars, (2) B-cars, (1) H-car

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> I have two , count 'em two, "flat type" 928 wheels Part # 928 361 021 05.
> Size is 7J x 16 and ET65.
> I think you could consider these vintage they were on the 928's and
some of
> the 944's.
> They're in excellent shape not even curb rash on either. The original
> Gatorbacks are also on both if the buyer is looking for originality.
> They're also in good shape.
> 
> I'd like to sell them. Anyone have a P-Car friend that might be interested
> in them, let me know.
> I'm trying to determine a logical price for them, if someone has any
> insight let me know.
> 
> Thanks.
> -Kevin
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 




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