The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 232 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: 2001 M roadster total production volume? Re: cruise control & fan control Re: Schroth Seller Re: Schroth Seller Re: Schroth Seller Re: Schroth Seller Re: Schroth Seller Re: Schroth Seller Re: Schroth Seller Matt Murry, Brett Anderson, & HMS
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:08:06 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: 2001 M roadster total production volume? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Iirc, there are six bytes that hold the EWS code, if these are coded to all zeroes the car is supposed to be startable. This might only apply to OBDI. The people who know the details about this are on the list but tend not to post too often. Barry Ben Keyes wrote: > 2001 MZ3's were pretty low production. IIRC there were less than > 1000 total M Coupes produced w/the S54 engine for 2001 & 2002 > model years & probably a max of 3x as many. > > there used to be someone who posted BMW internal sales volumes > to the Z3 roadster & coupe message boards on Roadfly, but I don't > have a link saved & Roadly seems to be offline at the moment. > > if even 10 of them have been stolen the per population theft > stastics will be all out of wack. short of the car being flat-bedded > away, I don't think there's an easy way to steal an EWS-equipped > car w/o some pretty serious technology, but perhaps I've mis-understood > how the system works. > > > Ben > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:52:40 -0700 From: "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: cruise control & fan control Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mine came apart in several more pieces than it was created in. The contact yoke was three of them. I got to the "I'll buy one real quick." -Gary 85 BMW 325e//78 Spitfire 1500 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Polands Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] cruise control & fan control 1. Cruise control: It is possible to reassemble your broken cruise control column switch, if you can find the very small ~2mm diameter ball bearing that is the sort of pivot/follower on the business end of the stalk. But it's very tedious, and you are likely to say ok I'll go buy one. . . . Steve Poland 88 535is 265,000 miles 01 330ci couple hundred thousand less miles. Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:44:07 -0400 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Schroth Seller Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No, I don't. The post was meant as a slam for being so pathetic. The CHEAPEST UPS/FedEx shipping is about $5 for 1lb within a 200 mile radius. No one will ship anything less than 1lb at a rate less than their 1lb rate except the post office. Going to the post office is something our company reserves for US Military personnel, as a courtesy, and on average it costs us $20 to ship 1lb via the post office when you factor time and materials. We charge them the UPS rate, usually about $8. You're trying to buy from a company in the north east, and I'd bet you're not in the north east, so $8.95 is barely going to cover shipping costs, let alone the time to package the item, and the cost of packaging. My post was meant as a slam because you're an idiot. Thanks Brett Anderson KMS-Koala Motorsport www.bmwdiffs.com (440) 564 7574 9988 Kinsman Rd Novelty, OH 44072 (Near Cleveland) Matt Murray wrote: > So have you got a deal? > > Matt > ----- Original Message ----- From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "uuc Digest" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: [UUC] Schroth Seller > > >> How much do you suppose the shipping should be? Where are you located? >> >> Brett Anderson >> KMS >> >> >> Matt Murray wrote: >>> I am looking for a Schroth reseller, who won't bang me $8.95 for >>> shipping out four seat belt harness grips (pins that go through the >>> end of the straps that you pull to tighten). HMS wants the $8.95. >>> eBay doesn't have any. >>> >>> Matt Murray >> Search the >> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:58:59 -0400 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>, 911 post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 944 post <924/[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, NER Solo postings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, evolution-discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Teamdotnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Schroth Seller Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, Brett, that's quite a cheery post. Just for the record, I live in Connecticut. If you check your map, you'll see that it borders Massachusetts. These strap/belt pulls probably weigh less than two ounces. You hand it to the postal person as they delivery mail daily to your shop or home. Somehow I did not think my post was inflammatory, nor your reply. Time to cut back on the caffeine, dude. Note to self: no need to do business with Koalamotorsports/bmwdiffs. com. Now where's Blanton's number..... Matt Murray Owning three BMWs 330i, 325xi, 318i, not the kind of customer a BMW vendor would want to work with I'll post to a few other lists, just in case anyone else has a similar POV (either side) ----- Original Message ----- From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> > No, I don't. > > The post was meant as a slam for being so pathetic. > > The CHEAPEST UPS/FedEx shipping is about $5 for 1lb within a 200 mile > radius. No one will ship anything less than 1lb at a rate less than their > 1lb rate except the post office. Going to the post office is something > our company reserves for US Military personnel, as a courtesy, and on > average it costs us $20 to ship 1lb via the post office when you factor > time and materials. We charge them the UPS rate, usually about $8. > > You're trying to buy from a company in the north east, and I'd bet you're > not in the north east, so $8.95 is barely going to cover shipping costs, > let alone the time to package the item, and the cost of packaging. > > My post was meant as a slam because you're an idiot. > > Thanks > > Brett Anderson > www.bmwdiffs.com > Matt Murray wrote: >> So have you got a deal? >> >> Matt >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "uuc Digest" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [UUC] Schroth Seller >> >> >>> How much do you suppose the shipping should be? Where are you located? >>> >>> Brett Anderson >>> KMS >>> Matt Murray wrote: >>>> I am looking for a Schroth reseller, who won't bang me $8.95 for >>>> shipping out four seat belt harness grips (pins that go through the end >>>> of the straps that you pull to tighten). HMS wants the $8.95. eBay >>>> doesn't have any. >>>> >>>> Matt Murray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:37:29 -0400 From: "Chet Dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matt Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Schroth Seller Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matt, While I understand trying to save a buck, I also support Brett's underlying point (perhaps you/he could have been a little more friendly but I'll we'll excuse that!). HMS has to stock them, advertise them, package them, run the phone and/or web page that allows you to waste their time asking shipment questions only to go elsewhere to try and save maybe $3 in shipping costs? Seems a little 'tight' to me when HMS (or anyone else) actually stocks the somewhat specialty item you're after. And if you're going to nickel and dime the vendors you deal with instead of a little mutual loyalty, you're correct when you say "...not the kind of customer a BMW vendor would want to work with". Customer service costs money. If you want inexpensive specialty parts without customer service....see if Ground Control has the items you're looking for. We've all wasted way more than $3 on this subject already. Sorry for my rant! Cheers, Chet Dawes -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of KMS- Brett Anderson Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:44 PM To: Matt Murray; UUC Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] Schroth Seller No, I don't. The post was meant as a slam for being so pathetic. The CHEAPEST UPS/FedEx shipping is about $5 for 1lb within a 200 mile radius. No one will ship anything less than 1lb at a rate less than their 1lb rate except the post office. Going to the post office is something our company reserves for US Military personnel, as a courtesy, and on average it costs us $20 to ship 1lb via the post office when you factor time and materials. We charge them the UPS rate, usually about $8. You're trying to buy from a company in the north east, and I'd bet you're not in the north east, so $8.95 is barely going to cover shipping costs, let alone the time to package the item, and the cost of packaging. My post was meant as a slam because you're an idiot. Thanks Brett Anderson KMS-Koala Motorsport www.bmwdiffs.com (440) 564 7574 9988 Kinsman Rd Novelty, OH 44072 (Near Cleveland) Matt Murray wrote: > So have you got a deal? > > Matt > ----- Original Message ----- From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "uuc Digest" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: [UUC] Schroth Seller > > >> How much do you suppose the shipping should be? Where are you located? >> >> Brett Anderson >> KMS >> >> >> Matt Murray wrote: >>> I am looking for a Schroth reseller, who won't bang me $8.95 for >>> shipping out four seat belt harness grips (pins that go through the >>> end of the straps that you pull to tighten). HMS wants the $8.95. >>> eBay doesn't have any. >>> >>> Matt Murray >> Search the >> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:30:33 -0400 From: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>, "Chet Dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Schroth Seller Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'd buy from HMS because they're a very strong supporter of the BMW community, attend track events, do helmet/HANS fittings, are available to talk about safety stuff and are generally (from everything I've ever heard about them from anyone who has bought from them) great guys to work with. I'll pay an extra dollar or 10 to get service I enjoy rather than price-shop and potentially have to deal with some faceless web site somewhere. there is a very real cost to fulfill _any_ order, be it for a $1k HANS system or a $20 set of seatbelt pads or whatever - HMS has set $8.95 as their floor for shipping items & that's their perogative. I don't have a problem with it, obviously you do. Ben Schroth harnesses gotten from a friend who got them from Joe at HMS. yes I know used harnesses can be a pit of vipers if you don't know how they were used, but half of the set was used maybe 3 times, the other side used sparingly & the car they were in was always garaged or in an enclosed trailer, so minimal worries about UV exposure. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:34:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Schroth Seller Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, now I'm curious. When businesses contract with a shipping service, is there an implied or expressed agreement that that shipper is exclusively used? If not, why wouldn't a business keep on hand a pile of USPS priority mail flat-rate envelopes [$3.85, last I checked, but it's been several months so they're probably $10 now ;-)] for the purpose of shipping such small ancilliary items? I like HMS and their support of the community, and I understand the "handling" part of shipping and handling, but I think the stocking/supply costs should be covered in the item's price, not the shipping baseline, and a couple of plastic pins probably could be easily tossed into a flat-rate envelope and carried off by the mailman. That would, in fact, take less time and effort than preparing a shipping label and box for UPS. Of course, the original poster could just order more stuff to justify the shipping cost and get the pins tossed in the box with that. :-) -tammer <--tries to consolidate orders to avoid such problems --- Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd buy from HMS because they're a very strong supporter > of the BMW > community, attend track events, do helmet/HANS fittings, > are > available to talk about safety stuff and are generally > (from everything > I've ever heard about them from anyone who has bought > from them) > great guys to work with. I'll pay an extra dollar or 10 > to get service > I enjoy rather than price-shop and potentially have to > deal with some > faceless web site somewhere. there is a very real cost > to fulfill _any_ > order, be it for a $1k HANS system or a $20 set of > seatbelt pads > or whatever - HMS has set $8.95 as their floor for > shipping items & > that's their perogative. I don't have a problem with it, > obviously you do. > > > > Ben > Schroth harnesses gotten from a friend who got them from > Joe > at HMS. yes I know used harnesses can be a pit of vipers > if > you don't know how they were used, but half of the set > was > used maybe 3 times, the other side used sparingly & the > car > they were in was always garaged or in an enclosed > trailer, > so minimal worries about UV exposure. > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:03:54 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Schroth Seller Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1) There's no exclusivity on shipping services. They can't anyway, and all they want is to see volume. 2) "Handing it to the mailman" isn't necessarily so easy. Many businesses receive USPS at a seperate PO box, or, as in our case, a localized bank of boxes for the industrial development. I've never seen our mail carrier, he could be Barney the Purple Dinosaur for all I know. When we do ship USPS (like KMS, we do so almost exclusively for military APO service), it's a royal hassle. 3) Matt, don't take Brett's words so personally. He's one of my best friends and more often than not calls me "dickhead". If I need something from him, I don't even bother to ask the cost... if someone else is selling a diff cheaper, it's a cheap diff and I know you get what you pay for. 4) Cheapness never pays. Avoiding one vendor for $3 means you'll spend $300 more when you're forced to go through a second-tier supplier for something else. "Penny wise and pound foolish", "A fool knows the price of everything and the value of nothing", etc., etc. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammer Farid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [UUC] Schroth Seller > Well, now I'm curious. When businesses contract with a > shipping service, is there an implied or expressed > agreement that that shipper is exclusively used? If not, > why wouldn't a business keep on hand a pile of USPS > priority mail flat-rate envelopes [$3.85, last I checked, > but it's been several months so they're probably $10 now > ;-)] for the purpose of shipping such small ancilliary > items? I like HMS and their support of the community, and > I understand the "handling" part of shipping and handling, > but I think the stocking/supply costs should be covered in > the item's price, not the shipping baseline, and a couple > of plastic pins probably could be easily tossed into a > flat-rate envelope and carried off by the mailman. That > would, in fact, take less time and effort than preparing a > shipping label and box for UPS. > > Of course, the original poster could just order more stuff > to justify the shipping cost and get the pins tossed in the > box with that. :-) > > -tammer <--tries to consolidate orders to avoid such > problems > > --- Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd buy from HMS because they're a very strong supporter > > of the BMW > > community, attend track events, do helmet/HANS fittings, > > are > > available to talk about safety stuff and are generally > > (from everything > > I've ever heard about them from anyone who has bought > > from them) > > great guys to work with. I'll pay an extra dollar or 10 > > to get service > > I enjoy rather than price-shop and potentially have to > > deal with some > > faceless web site somewhere. there is a very real cost > > to fulfill _any_ > > order, be it for a $1k HANS system or a $20 set of > > seatbelt pads > > or whatever - HMS has set $8.95 as their floor for > > shipping items & > > that's their perogative. I don't have a problem with it, > > obviously you do. > > > > > > > > Ben > > Schroth harnesses gotten from a friend who got them from > > Joe > > at HMS. yes I know used harnesses can be a pit of vipers > > if > > you don't know how they were used, but half of the set > > was > > used maybe 3 times, the other side used sparingly & the > > car > > they were in was always garaged or in an enclosed > > trailer, > > so minimal worries about UV exposure. > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > > of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > > the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: 8/5/2006 > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:40:28 -0400 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>, Teamdotnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, evolution-discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, NER Solo postings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 911/993/996 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 944 post <924/[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Schroth Seller Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But, as a consumer, I can also investigate companies that do not have usury shipping charges. That's all my post was. And that's why I offered it up suggesting comments from both POV. Yes, HMS and others have overhead to cover, and a profit margin. But as other posts have indicated, shipping can be had for $3 - $4. In my business I do services that some could charge for. But I choose not to, because in the long run I am concerned with a long term relationship, instead of a short term profit. I switched agencies last year. Of the agencies I could have joined several of them charge a documentation fee just like the car dealerships. I personally find that practice a bit unsavory,and yes, usury. I opted to join a company that does not charge the $195. for each side of a transaction. Clear conscience and all. Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chet Dawes" Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [UUC] Schroth Seller > Matt, > While I understand trying to save a buck, I also support Brett's > underlying > point (perhaps you/he could have been a little more friendly but I'll > we'll > excuse that!). > > HMS has to stock them, advertise them, package them, run the phone and/or > web page that allows you to waste their time asking shipment questions > only > to go elsewhere to try and save maybe $3 in shipping costs? Seems a > little > 'tight' to me when HMS (or anyone else) actually stocks the somewhat > specialty item you're after. And if you're going to nickel and dime the > vendors you deal with instead of a little mutual loyalty, you're correct > when you say "...not the kind of customer a BMW vendor would want to work > with". > > Customer service costs money. If you want inexpensive specialty parts > without customer service....see if Ground Control has the items you're > looking for. > > We've all wasted way more than $3 on this subject already. > > Sorry for my rant! > > Cheers, > Chet Dawes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:49:24 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Matt Murry, Brett Anderson, & HMS Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been going back and forth internally about whether to post on this topic. Wasn't going to stir it up anymore, but concluded that perhaps some clarification may help. 1. Matt Murrary is well known in Rennlist/Porsche circles, and VERY well known in the auto-x community. He is an excellent driver, winner of countless events, and a great friend. 2. Brett Anderson is one of the top doyens of the UUC BMW world, and has provided lots of technical assistance to hundreds if not thousands of digest subscribers, aside from all of his actual, paying customers. Brett is also responsible for building one of the cars I deeply, truly, madly LUST for, Rob Levinson's 6-speed manual 750i. http://www.robertlevinson.com/seven/ 3. I'm a fan of Joe Marko and HMS Motorsports, located in Peabody Massachusetts. Joe is a big driving force in the Boston Chapter of the BMW CCA, a swell guy, and a great font of knowledge on motorsports safety. The guys he has working there are great too. I've sent countless folks to HMS, and everyone has been pleased. So imagine my dismay to see the stuff going back and forth on this. Matt can be a little cranky, and Brett can be a little cranky, (but, really, neither more so than yours truly), but this is a tempest in a teapot, in my humble opinion. It's unfortunate that they haven't interacted previously, because I really do think that they would get along well - they share much of the same political inclination, and have about the same amount of patience for suffering fools. :-) Here's my $0.02. Matt felt that being charged $9 for shipping a few pieces of stiff foam smaller than your pinkie was too much, so he wanted to see if there was a place that would ship them for less. That's not unreasonable. HMS charges $8.95 as a minimum shipping/handling fee. Which is also not unreasonable. Brett wanted to point out what the real costs are for a company to provide shipping on parts purchased, as he's on the other side of the counter on this point. Which is also not unreasonable (though, I must admit, the vehemence in making the point was perhaps just a wee bit over the top). Could HMS just stick them in a mailing envelope and use the USPS for $1.85 in postage? Sure they COULD, but if they're not set up to do it, it's entirely reasonable to decline to so do for such a small order. And yes, one argument is that they may want to do it anyway, just to support the community, but the counter argument is that they're so busy that doing stuff like this just creates too much hassle. Again, that's entirely reasonable, IMHO. I've bought lots of stuff from HMS, even though they may not be the bottom line cheapest place for __some__ stuff (though they do have great prices AND they have exclusives on lots of stuff) AND I have to pay Taxachusetts sale tax, despite being a notoriously cheap guy, because (a) they have great service and product knowledge, (b) they're local, and (c) they support the motorsport community around here. But if they quoted me $8.95 to ship those pieces of foam down to me, I'd probably check around too to see if I could get them elsewhere for less. Bottom line, I think everyone is well within their rights. But this has just spiraled waaaay out of proportion. If I lived closer to Brett, I'd gladly use his services. I'll continue to happily buy stuff from HMS. And I'd gladly go on a roadtrip with Matt. In the immortal words of Rodney King, can't we all just get along? :-) Vty, --Dennis ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(10 messages) **********
