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  [E30] Idiot lights....overheating?
  Re: [E30] Idiot lights....overheating?
  Re: [E30] Idiot lights....overheating?
  Re: [E30] Idiot lights....overheating?
  Re: My New M Roadster Pics
  Click and Clack, was: M Roadster Pix
  Re: E34 M30 Overheating
  Re: E39 Dashboard Goofiness
  seeking Tom Dotzler
  <WTB> E36 Forged Double Spokes

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 14:56:04 +0000
From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [E30] Idiot lights....overheating?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Car: 1987 325, just rolled over 211000 last night.

Last night, less than 10 miles from home the idiot lights came on for the 
battery, brakes, ABS, and parking brake. I had seen this once before and I 
used the Microsoft fix on it. (Shut down and restart.) Last night this did 
not work. Motor was running fine and brakes continued to work although I did 
not attempt to activate ABS. I also noticed less than a mile from home that 
the water gauge was running hot. However, I am not sure I can take that as 
face value as sometimes I hit a good bump and it will peg to the hot end. Of 
course, when I got home the engine compartment continued to make noise after 
shutting the car down. (My suspicion was boiling coolant, but there was no 
coolant smell etc.)

Since this was after midnight, an inspection under the hood will have to 
wait until I get home this evening.

Any ideas of what to look for would be helpful. Thanks.
I believe car has original radiatior. Coolant hoses/thermostat and water 
pump have been replaced within the last five years/30K miles.

TIA

Gilbert



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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 11:52:02 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [E30] Idiot lights....overheating?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Count the drive belts, you should have three.

Gilbert Hoffman wrote:

> Car: 1987 325, just rolled over 211000 last night.

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 13:34:57 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [E30] Idiot lights....overheating?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Try the DOH fix.

Smack the dashboard above the cluster and exclaim in best Homerish, "DOH!"

Note that this procedure is interchangeable with the "Hoozyer Daddy" and
"Strong Pimp Hand" repair techniques.

- Rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [UUC] [E30] Idiot lights....overheating?


> Car: 1987 325, just rolled over 211000 last night.
>
> Last night, less than 10 miles from home the idiot lights came on for the
> battery, brakes, ABS, and parking brake. I had seen this once before and I
> used the Microsoft fix on it. (Shut down and restart.) Last night this did
> not work. Motor was running fine and brakes continued to work although I
did
> not attempt to activate ABS. I also noticed less than a mile from home
that
> the water gauge was running hot. However, I am not sure I can take that as
> face value as sometimes I hit a good bump and it will peg to the hot end.
Of
> course, when I got home the engine compartment continued to make noise
after
> shutting the car down. (My suspicion was boiling coolant, but there was no
> coolant smell etc.)
>
> Since this was after midnight, an inspection under the hood will have to
> wait until I get home this evening.
>
> Any ideas of what to look for would be helpful. Thanks.
> I believe car has original radiatior. Coolant hoses/thermostat and water
> pump have been replaced within the last five years/30K miles.
>
> TIA
>
> Gilbert


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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 04:36:58 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [E30] Idiot lights....overheating?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 02:56:04PM +0000, Gilbert Hoffman wrote:
> Car: 1987 325, just rolled over 211000 last night.
> 
> Last night, less than 10 miles from home the idiot lights came on for
> the battery, brakes, ABS, and parking brake. I had seen this once
> before and I used the Microsoft fix on it. (Shut down and restart.)
> Last night this did not work. 

Actual cooling problems aside, if multiple dash lights come on at the 
same time, along with wonky gauge behaviour, I would suspect a bad 
ground somewhere.  It can't hurt to check the multiple ground points 
(where you'll see multiple brown wires connected)


-- 
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 09:27:04 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: My New M Roadster Pics
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Maybe Clarkson is buddy-buddy with Click and Clack (The Tappet Brothers,
a.k.a. Tom & Ray Magloizzi on Car Talk).  They don't exactly love BMWs
either.

Scott

>Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:03:15 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: My New M Roadster Pics
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>On Tue, 30 May 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You gotta love a guy who writes like this:
>>
>> >Going ugly early is something that works in a Newcastle nightclub. But
>> >not when youâ?Tre buying a car . . .
>
>Jeremy Clarkson has never been a big fan of BMW.  For example, he says
>that the Mini should have "a quintessentially German... sat-nav that only
>goes to Poland", in response to a co-host's comment that the Mini concept
>had a quintessentially English tea set integrated, and that its "fan belt
>will last a thousand years".  He's made other comments about BMW's
>association with Nazis, too.
>
>--Andre




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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 12:32:24 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Click and Clack, was: M Roadster Pix
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

C&C don't mind BMW cars, they mind the drivers of said cars.  :^)

Matt Murray

----- Original Message -----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Maybe Clarkson is buddy-buddy with Click and Clack (The Tappet 
> Brothers,a.k.a. Tom & Ray Magloizzi on Car Talk).  They don't 
> exactly love BMWs either.
> 
> Scott

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 11:13:32 -0500
From: "Robert Blakeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E34 M30 Overheating
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks to all that have responded. I did indeed blow out the small return 
line during the initial radiator replacement as I recalled reading that 
someplace else.

The car overheated again two days ago as I pulled into the driveway and I 
immediately grabbed a wrench to bleed the system with the heater on. Several 
spitting, foaming, splashing, stinging seconds later the coolant ran steady. 
This may have solved the problem as it did not overheat yesterday. I say 
"may" because it's behaved this way before. I'll offer up a burned goat or 
something to the coolant god.

You guys are great, thanks!
Robert
1990 535i
2000 528i



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>
>Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 18:19:49 -0400
>From: "Whit Lowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: E34 M30 Overheating
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>David makes a legitimate point regarding the thermostat.  Even if the
>thermostat is in good working order, the misplacement of the O ring
>can cause it to stick.  The thermostat sits flush with the housing,
>then the O ring, then the cover.
>
>A few ideas...
>
>Have we determined if the engine is actually overheating?  Just
>because the temp gauge says so doesn't mean it is so.  Temp senders do
>fail.  If you're unsure of what a hot engine feels like, crack the
>bleed screw and see what comes out when the gauge is in the red.  A
>50/50 mix will boil and froth out of the screw by the time the gauge
>legitimately hits the 3/4 mark; the coolant can also be heard boiling
>in the system.
>
>As in all facets of life, we can't disregard our friend Mihaly
>Csikszentmihalyi and flow, even as it relates to coolant.  If the
>engine is actually overheating: the lower radiator hose should be
>lukewarm, not dead hand cold.  There's a noticeable difference.
>
>In terms of coolant return: the largest restriction isn't in the line
>itself, but in the expansion tank.  Winfred Dixon and others advise
>using a small bit to drill out the hole.  In my service work, I've had
>good success in using compressed air to clear both the return line and
>the expansion tank passage and have never found a need to widen the
>expansion tank hole.
>
>Best, Whit



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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 11:27:57 -0500
From: "Robert Blakeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E39 Dashboard Goofiness
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The long weekend provided me some time to replace the ignition switch on the 
528i as Brett Anderson suggested. As usual, he was spot on the problem. You 
may recall that I was getting strange combinations of dashboard light 
indicators, none of which seemed to be related, including steering wheel 
buttons going dead and the radio going off on its own. The car acted 
haunted.

The hardest part of the job was figuring out how to remove the wood trim 
panels on the dash. Surprisingly enough, they simply pop out.

Two cars, two problems gone thanks to the Digest.

Robert
1990 535i
2000 528i



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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:41:28 -0500
From: "W. B. Gerard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: seeking Tom Dotzler
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Tom, if you're tuned in here, contact me via email. 

Apologies for the waste of bandwidth.



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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:14:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: <WTB> E36 Forged Double Spokes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Group,

I am looking for a complete set of painted forged
double spokes for my E36 M3. I believe the painted
version of this wheel came on earlier cars (pre 9/95
build) but I am not exactly sure.

If you have a set or know of any leads let me know. 

Thanks.

Matt Weimer

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