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  Re: Spiffing it up (WOB ?)
  Re: Spiffing it up (WOB ?)
  Re: Spiffing it up (WOB ?)
  Re: Spiffing it up (WOB ?)
  <E36> Front suspension Miller's column
  Re: <E36> Front suspension Miller's column
  Re: <E36> Front suspension Miller's column
  Re: <E36> Front suspension Miller's column
  E36 rear offset bushings?
  Re: E36 rear offset bushings?
  Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(6 messages)
  more spiffing WOB
  Re: more spiffing WOB
  Re: <e34> check engine light - code get won't work
  Re: <E36> foglight removal?

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:22:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Bill Proud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Uucdigest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Spiffing it up (WOB ?)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Bill,
While I've never seen the inside of a whore-house, I'll have to take your word 
for it......

Meguiar's makes a really nice interior product I use on our BMW's and it does 
not look all 'wet and greasy'.  A very natural shine (hence the name) and looks 
like a factory low gloss BMW interior should.  I use it sparingly and one would 
never know there is has been any sort of schmutz applied.
I've found this at any 'ol discount parts shop (AutoZone, Murray's, etc).

Natural Shine Vinyl & Rubber Protectant 
        
 "Maintain that “like new” look on dashboards, trim, tires and more. 
Natural Shine’s complex formula includes mild cleaning agents that help 
remove daily dirt and grime and restore the original, natural finish. Includes 
UV blockers to help reduce the effects caused by the sun. For best results, use 
a High Tech Applicator Pad to spread the product evenly over the surface, or 
spray directly onto pad, then use an Ultra Plush Super Terry to remove any 
excess product."
http://meguiars.com/?vinyl-rubber-plastic-protectants/Natural-Shine-Vinyl-Rubber-Protectant

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Chet Dawes
(Sorry, no need for the Chebby....just bought myself a "family truckster" e46 
sport wagon)



-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Proud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [UUC]  Spiffing it up (WOB ?)
>
>I have a rustfree 306,XXX mile Chev 1/2ton pickemup I am thinking of selling 
>to get a smaller 4x4 (a toy OTA ) and I therefore want to spiff it up a bit 
>.
>What is the best Vinyl restorer you'se guys have used ? There are no cracks 
>in the Chev dashboard -it's just pretty dry-looking- and I dont want to 
>induce some by using the wrong type of cleaner-upper fluid . Nor do I want 
>it to look like the inside of a whore-house -all shine and glitz 
>............
>What are your suggestions ?
>PS anyone want a 93 Cheb?, 350 cube , 5-speed Getrag ........no rust 
>anywhere ...it scoots !! Lotsa new mechanicals ..........ask me offline . 
>Located South of Nashville (Nose-singing Capital of the World ) , fly-in 
>drive home ..
>Bill Proud 
>


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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:23:57 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Spiffing it up (WOB ?)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 12/21/06 2:06 PM, "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nor do I want it to look like the inside of a whore-house-all shine and glitz

I'll have to defer to your experience on that last point, but I've found
Vinylex to work pretty well on the dash and interior plastics. It's shiny
when freshly applied but tones down fine after a bit. Don't recall offhand
where I ordered my last batch from-JFGI.

Neil
Fort Wayne, IN
96 M3      - Bastard child
03 525iT   - Sterling Grey Metallic
05 Mini    - Cooper S with LSD



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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:31:37 -1000
From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Spiffing it up (WOB ?)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

usually it's hard to come by here, but i noticed sears carries it...also 
the local dealer has it for a reasonable price...

anyone tried 303 aerospace protectant on the interior yet???  seems like 
it'd be good to use also, but i never tried it yet...

Neil Maller wrote:

> I'll have to defer to your experience on that last point, but I've found
> Vinylex to work pretty well on the dash and interior plastics. It's shiny
> when freshly applied but tones down fine after a bit. Don't recall offhand
> where I ordered my last batch from-JFGI.

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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:36:17 -0500
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Spiffing it up (WOB ?)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'll second that - Vinylex is an awesome product.  Used properly, it's
buffed off by hand, leaving the plastic or vinyl looking brand-new, not
"treated".

Gawd, I hate that gloss crap that some people slather all over the interiors
and tires.   It's a dashboard, not a test surface for Maybelline Lip Gloss.

Vinylex likewise makes tires look like new.  Again, no gloss - just dark
black rubber, the way they should look.

- Rob


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neil Maller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [UUC] Spiffing it up (WOB ?)


> on 12/21/06 2:06 PM, "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Nor do I want it to look like the inside of a whore-house-all shine and
glitz
>
> I'll have to defer to your experience on that last point, but I've found
> Vinylex to work pretty well on the dash and interior plastics. It's shiny
> when freshly applied but tones down fine after a bit. Don't recall offhand
> where I ordered my last batch from-JFGI.
>
> Neil
> Fort Wayne, IN
> 96 M3      - Bastard child
> 03 525iT   - Sterling Grey Metallic
> 05 Mini    - Cooper S with LSD


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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:34:46 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E36> Front suspension Miller's column
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


In November's Roundel , Mike Miller had a grip from a CCA Tech Advisor. In
one part of the letter he alluded to a DIY putting a left hand shock on the
right side of the front suspension. Mike didn't really respond to this
specific issue.
As far as I know there is no "handedness" on the E36 M3 or other model for
the struts. If you get a complete strut assembly such as the Koni there is
no right vs. left side orientation correct? Or if you just replace the
cartridge there is again no handedness. Am I wrong on this?

-Kevin



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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:48:14 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> Front suspension Miller's column
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, December 21, 2006 11:34 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> As far as I know there is no "handedness" on the E36 M3 or other model for
> the struts.

For the complete front strut assembly, there absolutely is. The
orientation of the hub attachment points vs. the locations for holding the
brake line/ABS wheel sensor wires/brake pad wear wire is particular to
left or right.

In addition to BMW numbering them as left & right :-)

Jim Bassett
1998 M3/4
1993 325is #44 JP


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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:52:07 -0500
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], uuc Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Front suspension Miller's column
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What's "a grip from a CCA tech adviser" mean?

I also have seen suck idiotic back yard work.  An E39 with the front 
struts rotated so incorrectly in the spindles that the spring perch was 
interfering with the body.

Most BMW suspension is specific, left to right. At least since the 
introduction of the E36.

Securing points for wiring. Pickup points for sway bar links, even 
spindle mounting, is different left to right.

Brett Anderson
KMS



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In November's Roundel , Mike Miller had a grip from a CCA Tech Advisor. In
> one part of the letter he alluded to a DIY putting a left hand shock on the
> right side of the front suspension. Mike didn't really respond to this
> specific issue.
> As far as I know there is no "handedness" on the E36 M3 or other model for
> the struts. If you get a complete strut assembly such as the Koni there is
> no right vs. left side orientation correct? Or if you just replace the
> cartridge there is again no handedness. Am I wrong on this?
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
> 
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:04:50 -0500
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], uuc Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Front suspension Miller's column
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That should have read "SOME idiotic"

Brett Anderson
KMS


KMS- Brett Anderson wrote:
> What's "a grip from a CCA tech adviser" mean?
> 
> I also have seen suck idiotic back yard work.  An E39 with the front 
> struts rotated so incorrectly in the spindles that the spring perch was 
> interfering with the body.
> 
> Most BMW suspension is specific, left to right. At least since the 
> introduction of the E36.
> 
> Securing points for wiring. Pickup points for sway bar links, even 
> spindle mounting, is different left to right.
> 
> Brett Anderson
> KMS
> 

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:37:37 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: E36 rear offset bushings?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Since I put the Schnitzer suspension on my e36 328i touring I'm running too 
much rear -ve camber and chewing up my snow tyres inside edge at an alarming 
rate!

Does anyone know of a supplier for rear lower control arm offset bushings? Do 
E36 M3s have an offset bushing?



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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:56:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: Re: E36 rear offset bushings?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

John,
The e36 M3 has a cam-bolt at the lower/outer control arm bushing/mounting point 
for camber adjustment.  Depending on your ride height you may or may not be 
able to dial out soem of that negative camber.
If you're chewing 'em up that fast perhaps the rear toe is also too much 'in'.  
That's a serious tire chewing combo.  Sounds like perhaps an alignment is 
required?  Did you perform an alignment post-suspension swap?
Cheers,
Chet Dawes

-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Dec 21, 2006 2:37 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [UUC]  E36 rear offset bushings?
>
>Since I put the Schnitzer suspension on my e36 328i touring I'm running too 
>much rear -ve camber and chewing up my snow tyres inside edge at an alarming 
>rate!
>
>Does anyone know of a supplier for rear lower control arm offset bushings? Do 
>E36 M3s have an offset bushing?
>

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:31:49 -0500
From: "Bill Heumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(6 messages)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Trees work really well also!

Bill Heumann

 
>>>>>>>>
An off-track excursion or smacking into a curb works for most of us.

Neil
Fort Wayne, IN
96 M3      - Bastard child
03 525iT   - Sterling Grey Metallic
05 Mini    - Cooper S with LSD





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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:19:42 -0600
From: "Tom Dotzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: more spiffing WOB
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I once had some friends who worked on boats at a marina ridecule me
when I asked for ArmorAll to put on my dash.  They said dontcha know
its got silicon and will eventually dry out the vinyl?  I asked them
what they used on boat vinyl and they told me they used Mop n'Glow.
Anyone heard or tried this.  I did use some as a medium for applying
interference powders in a wall treatment once.  It worked cool. It is
obviously some kind of waterbase copolymer thing.
Tom Dotzler

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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 06:53:59 -0600
From: "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom Dotzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: more spiffing WOB
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

OK Tom , you have piqued my interest ...........what in the World are " 
interference powders in a wall treatment " ? . I'm having a hard time 
visualising a wall needing makeup -even if it does appear in a movie ......
That must be the kind Donald Trump wears 'cuz he interferes with everything 
.....
Beepee

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Dotzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:19 PM
Subject: [UUC] more spiffing WOB


>I once had some friends who worked on boats at a marina ridecule me
> when I asked for ArmorAll to put on my dash.  They said dontcha know
> its got silicon and will eventually dry out the vinyl?  I asked them
> what they used on boat vinyl and they told me they used Mop n'Glow.
> Anyone heard or tried this.  I did use some as a medium for applying
> interference powders in a wall treatment once.  It worked cool. It is
> obviously some kind of waterbase copolymer thing.
> Tom Dotzler
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com 


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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:22:44 -0500
From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <e34> check engine light - code get won't work
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sorry for the confusion...
I should have typed

"If the O2 sensor VOLTAGE is low, then it reads the mixtures as lean an 
enrichens it more than it should, thus stuffing the cat..." 


Most systems that I've had to deal with (Porsche/Bosche DME and Ford units) are 
set if the 02 shorts or fails to "fail safe" (going rich, vs leaning out and 
burning a valve or piston)

In both cases, if the sensor reads zero (aka is unplugged) the CPU just plain 
ignores it.

I still might not be explaining right though...
Have a Healthy Happy, and Merry Merry.

-Jason
'86 951 "Sparky"
'70 240Z "Dusty"
'97 Contour "Bambi"
'03 325xi "Daisy"



> How does that happen?  If the mixture is rich, there is no oxygen and the cat 
> stops working temporarily and cools off.  That is standard operation at WOT.  
> Too many way rich to lean transitions can lead to catalyst overheating, but 
> that is a different issue.
> Gary Derian

 
> > For instance, if the O2 sensor is reading low / lean, the ECu will enrichen 
> > the mixture and stuff your cat...



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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 07:06:19 -0800
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> foglight removal?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:36:52PM -0500, Neil Maller wrote:
> on 12/20/06 1:20 PM, "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Apparently I'm not smart enough to figure out how to get the
> > foglights out of this car.  Any tips would really be appreciated.
> 
> An off-track excursion or smacking into a curb works for most of us.

Yeah, I wasn't gonna say anything, but screwing up an e-brake turn on 
the snow and hitting your own mailbox works for me.



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