The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 278 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Flywheel for and E36? Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Re: Flywheel for and E36? Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Re: Flywheel for and E36? Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Re: Flywheel for and E36? Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Re: Flywheel for and E36? Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues <misc> independant in Tampa area? Mud guards for 96 318ti Sport with M aero? Removing rust from caliper pistons? Re: Removing rust from caliper pistons? Re: Removing rust from caliper pistons? Re: Removing rust from caliper pistons? Re: Flywheel for an E36?
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 09:00:49 -0700 From: "Brewster Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On the E34 535i, one "upgrade" is to replace the dual mass flywheel with a single mass one from an E28 or possibly an E12. Supposedly, it eliminates the rattle associated with the dual mass flywheel and because it is lighter results in faster revs. The E28 flywheel can usually be found used at a junkyard for about $100 and then all you need is an E28 clutch kit and I believe E28 flywheel bolts. Can this same upgrade be used on an E39 540? Brewster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:32:35 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brewster Fong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Flywheel for and E36? Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyon know of flywheels from other models that will work on an E36 //M3? Barry Brewster Fong wrote: >On the E34 535i, one "upgrade" is to replace the dual mass flywheel with a >single mass one from an E28 or possibly an E12. Supposedly, it eliminates >the rattle associated with the dual mass flywheel and because it is lighter >results in faster revs. The E28 flywheel can usually be found used at a >junkyard for about $100 and then all you need is an E28 clutch kit and I >believe E28 flywheel bolts. Can this same upgrade be used on an E39 540? >Brewster > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 16:56:12 -0400 From: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Flywheel for and E36? Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> single-mass flywheel from a 528e, tho only a small production range, I forget which. check the ETK & see if you can figure it out, it's not that hard. I forget how much lighter than the stock dual mass it is. Ben Barry wrote: > Anyon know of flywheels from other models that will work on an E36 //M3? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:43:50 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Flywheel for and E36? Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Could that be from the '88 model year 'Super'eta? Which clutch setups would work with that and handle up to ~290 or so hp (not mroe than 250 rear wheel)? Barry > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Keyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2006 08:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Flywheel for E36? Re: [UUC] E39 540i/6 driveline issues > > single-mass flywheel from a 528e, tho only a small production range, > I forget which. check the ETK & see if you can figure it out, it's not > that hard. I forget how much lighter than the stock dual mass it is. > > > Ben > > Barry wrote: > > Anyone know of flywheels from other models that will work on an E36 //M3? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 21:01:13 -0400 From: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Flywheel for and E36? Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Barry wrote: > Could that be from the '88 model year 'Super'eta? absolutely not. it's 11 22 1 273 153 & was only used on cars up to 9/83, so very early. only weighs 6.160kg, so quite light. later ones : 11 22 1 705 046 is for 9/83 thru 5/86 & weighs 10.750 21 21 1 225 979 is for 5/86 & up & weighs 12.50 > Which clutch setups would work with that and handle up > to ~290 or so hp (not mroe than 250 rear wheel)? no clue. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 18:09:27 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Flywheel for and E36? Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not sure about the flywheel, but I do know that if done right the M5 clutch fits. David Ellsworth Richmond, VA -----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Oct 4, 2006 1:32 PM >To: Brewster Fong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: [email protected] >Subject: Flywheel for and E36? Re: [UUC] E39 540i/6 driveline issues > >Anyon know of flywheels from other models that will work on an E36 //M3? >Barry > >Brewster Fong wrote: > >>On the E34 535i, one "upgrade" is to replace the dual mass flywheel with a >>single mass one from an E28 or possibly an E12. Supposedly, it eliminates >>the rattle associated with the dual mass flywheel and because it is lighter >>results in faster revs. The E28 flywheel can usually be found used at a >>junkyard for about $100 and then all you need is an E28 clutch kit and I >>believe E28 flywheel bolts. Can this same upgrade be used on an E39 540? >>Brewster >> >> >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:49:05 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brewster Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Its the other way around. The dual mass flywheel damps low frequency driveline vibrations. The single mass doesn't but it does rev much faster, both up and down. Gary Derian > On the E34 535i, one "upgrade" is to replace the dual mass flywheel with a > single mass one from an E28 or possibly an E12. Supposedly, it eliminates > the rattle associated with the dual mass flywheel and because it is > lighter > results in faster revs. The E28 flywheel can usually be found used at a > junkyard for about $100 and then all you need is an E28 clutch kit and I > believe E28 flywheel bolts. Can this same upgrade be used on an E39 540? > Brewster > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:08:58 -0700 From: "Brewster Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E39 540i/6 driveline issues Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No, the rattle I was talking about was the noise you get when you shut down the engine. On my E34 535i, there's a slight rattle. Supposedly, the E28 clutch/flywheel doesn't do this. Brewster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brewster Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] E39 540i/6 driveline issues > Its the other way around. The dual mass flywheel damps low frequency > driveline vibrations. The single mass doesn't but it does rev much faster, > both up and down. > Gary Derian > > > > > On the E34 535i, one "upgrade" is to replace the dual mass flywheel with a > > single mass one from an E28 or possibly an E12. Supposedly, it eliminates > > the rattle associated with the dual mass flywheel and because it is > > lighter > > results in faster revs. The E28 flywheel can usually be found used at a > > junkyard for about $100 and then all you need is an E28 clutch kit and I > > believe E28 flywheel bolts. Can this same upgrade be used on an E39 540? > > Brewster > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 15:46:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <misc> independant in Tampa area? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Any recomendations for a good independant in the Tampa Bay area? - Kevin Jay '96 328is, red/tan, 95K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 35K, bone stock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 22:17:56 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 318ti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC <[email protected]> Subject: Mud guards for 96 318ti Sport with M aero? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anybody have the part numbers for the front and rear mud guards for a 96 318ti Sport with the M aero package? I need to replace the fronts for sure and I can't find them or the rears on REALOEM. The fronts do have "909 molded into them if that helps. Also if anybody knows a good source or a sale going on, I am all ears. Thanks, David Ellsworth Richmond, VA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 22:29:44 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 318ti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC <[email protected]> Subject: Removing rust from caliper pistons? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am about to rebuild all the calipers for my car and wonder what the prefered method is for removing the rust from the outer cupped ends. The pistons and calipers are in good shape, just some rust and scal on the rim and down in the center I would like to remove. I have access to a very basic suction sand blaster, so that is one option. Is there any +/- to this or anything I shold know or consider? Is there a safe chemical way of removing it and if so what? Thanks, David Ellsworth Richmond, VA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:54:45 -0400 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Removing rust from caliper pistons? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't use a sand/bead blaster. Use a wire wheel. It leaves a clean finish. Brett Anderson KMS Maverick wrote: > I am about to rebuild all the calipers for my car and wonder what the > prefered method is for removing the rust from the outer cupped ends. The > pistons and calipers are in good shape, just some rust and scal on the rim > and down in the center I would like to remove. > > I have access to a very basic suction sand blaster, so that is one option. > Is there any +/- to this or anything I shold know or consider? > > Is there a safe chemical way of removing it and if so what? > > Thanks, > > David Ellsworth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:15:13 -0400 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Rich Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Removing rust from caliper pistons? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hmm, yes, my opinion was for the outer edge of the piston. If you feel the need to clean up the inside surfaces of the piston, a blaster is the only way. Brett Anderson KMS Rich Dorffer wrote: > On 10/5/06, *KMS- Brett Anderson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Don't use a sand/bead blaster. > > > Why not? > > Use a wire wheel. It leaves a clean finish. > > > On the outer cupped ends? Which I interpret as the portion inside the > cup/the part not inside the caliper (i.e., the part that isn't > machined). A wire wheel really doesn't reach inside the cup, it could > clean up the edge where the pad rests against. > > Maybe I am misinterpreting David. > > Regards, > > Rich > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 07:38:40 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Removing rust from caliper pistons? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thanks Rich and Brent, you got it right. I want to clean the outer rim so the pads have a clean smooth surface to sit onand I wanted to get the scale out of the outer cupped end too. Once that is done i am thinking of spraying the outer surfaces with Wurth AluZinc as it is great for rust and it goes to over 900 degrees. thanks, I guess I will blast. David -----Original Message----- >From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Oct 5, 2006 1:15 AM >To: Rich Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [UUC] Removing rust from caliper pistons? > >Hmm, yes, my opinion was for the outer edge of the piston. If you feel >the need to clean up the inside surfaces of the piston, a blaster is the >only way. > >Brett Anderson >KMS > > > >Rich Dorffer wrote: >> On 10/5/06, *KMS- Brett Anderson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >> Don't use a sand/bead blaster. >> >> >> Why not? >> >> Use a wire wheel. It leaves a clean finish. >> >> >> On the outer cupped ends? Which I interpret as the portion inside the >> cup/the part not inside the caliper (i.e., the part that isn't >> machined). A wire wheel really doesn't reach inside the cup, it could >> clean up the edge where the pad rests against. >> >> Maybe I am misinterpreting David. >> >> Regards, >> >> Rich >> >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 05:54:34 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Flywheel for an E36? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That would correspond to 528e that came with the basket weave wheel style, prior to that motor being used in the E30. Is that a 225 or 240mm diameter? Barry > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Keyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2006 01:01 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Flywheel for and E36? Re: [UUC] E39 540i/6 driveline issues > > Barry wrote: > > Could that be from the '88 model year 'Super'eta? > absolutely not. > it's 11 22 1 273 153 & was only used on cars up to 9/83, so very > early. only weighs 6.160kg, so quite light. > later ones : > 11 22 1 705 046 is for 9/83 thru 5/86 & weighs 10.750 > 21 21 1 225 979 is for 5/86 & up & weighs 12.50 > > Which clutch setups would work with that and handle up > > to ~290 or so hp (not mroe than 250 rear wheel)? > no clue. Ben ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
