The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 3 : Issue 341 : "text" Format

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  Re: M62 leaking chain cover
  Re: M62 leaking chain cover
  Brake tech
  Re: Brake Tech
  Re: <ads> Latest BMW ad
  Re: <ads> Latest BMW ad
  1998 M3's
  Re: 1998 M3's
  Re: 1998 M3's
  Re: 1998 M3's
  Re: 1998 M3's
  e36 wilwood brakes
  Re: e36 wilwood brakes
  Portable GPS units
  Re: Portable GPS units

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:19:17 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: M62 leaking chain cover
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Swap the connections to the battery +/- and start it backwards, of course!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [UUC] M62 leaking chain cover


> How do you tighten it?
> Gary Derian
>
>>
>> Bah!  Just get yourself a big-a$$ breaker bar and socket that you don't 
>> care
>> about, wedge the breaker bar against the garage floor, and then bump the
>> starter motor to loosen that nut!  You laugh, but it works if the motor
>> spins the right way.  Starter motors have monster torque! :-)
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
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>
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> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:45:46 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: M62 leaking chain cover
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Oh, and plan on replacing all the electrics in your car after you fry them.

David 

-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Dec 15, 2006 7:19 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UUC]  M62 leaking chain cover
>
>Swap the connections to the battery +/- and start it backwards, of course!
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
>Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:23 AM
>Subject: Re: [UUC] M62 leaking chain cover
>
>
>> How do you tighten it?
>> Gary Derian
>>
>>>
>>> Bah!  Just get yourself a big-a$$ breaker bar and socket that you don't 
>>> care
>>> about, wedge the breaker bar against the garage floor, and then bump the
>>> starter motor to loosen that nut!  You laugh, but it works if the motor
>>> spins the right way.  Starter motors have monster torque! :-)
>>
>> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________________
>> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>>
>> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com 
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:37:30 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Brake tech
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Anyone seen this in either Autoweek or Mark's site? Interesting althought
the claim of halving stopping distances is hard to believe (maybe because
of finer modulation) given that modern hydraulic systems are really only
limited by tire adhesion.

http://www.justracing.com/racing_technology/viewtopic.php?t=17

-Kevin



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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:44:33 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Brake Tech
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forgot to add:
It would seem that heat would be very distructive to the motor windings I
think we've also seen that phenolic harden and go south on many motors.
Also, some mechanism would have to be in place to account for pad and rotor
wear.
Reliable power routing to the caliper is a question I have, copper doesn't
like a lot of flexing before it work hardens and fails.Maybe they're using
some multiply flex with improved reliability. (Maybe a lesson from the disk
drive guys).

-Kevin



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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 03:33:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <ads> Latest BMW ad
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have the local movie file. Not very good resolution, but a great 
video.  He gets pretty sideways out of the second carousel.

Leaving town tomorrow am for a week of vacation, but can figure out a 
transfer if you want...It's 45 MB

Speaking of BMW ads. There is one decent one shot from the front 
bumper of a new X5 lapping the ring.  Only seen it once.

Marc Plante
E36 M3/4, 75k
Vienna, VA


----Original Message----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Dec 15, 2006 14:01 
To: <[email protected]>
Subj: Re: [UUC]  <ads> Latest BMW ad

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Jason Kay wrote:
> On a slightly different note, has anyone gone onto the BMW website 
lately?
> I found a lap that Hans Stuck ran in M3GTR at the "North Loop" of 
the Nurburgring...
> 
> http://content.bmwusa.com
> its all flash (and not letting me save it for later viewings...)

There are programs that let you save flash movies.  For example:

http://viewdownloader.net

has a Firefox plug-in that does just that.

That's a neat video, and I think that's the pole-setting lap you're
seeing. They released another DVD that has Spa and a couple of the
sportcar tracks, too. 

--Andre


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CCA.

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:46:53 -0800
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <ads> Latest BMW ad
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Dec 15, 2006, at 7:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have the local movie file. Not very good resolution, but a great
> video.  He gets pretty sideways out of the second carousel.
>
> Leaving town tomorrow am for a week of vacation, but can figure out a
> transfer if you want...It's 45 MB

Photo and video hosting is free to registered members (also free) at  
www.justracing.com.

- Mark  <-- small bias
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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:09:22 -0600
From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'UUC BMW Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: 1998 M3's
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What are 1998 M3's doing on the 'real' market?  I'm not talking about what
Kelly b.s. book or Edmunds say...or blackbook or whatever. If you have
bought one recently, I'd like to hear what you paid. I would like to get one
for a driver, found a few so far. Prices on older M cars are all over the
place. I am just wondering what the real world ballpark figures are.  One in
particular is a 98 coupe 5 speed with 81k miles, silver and black.  Value?
Problem I am finding...you can't find the damned things!! BMW sold tons of
them but there are only a handful for sale in my area, even less most of the
time. Where are they?(no, don't tell me ebay...no thanks) Also, if anyone
has one for sale, I'm happy to listen. 

Alex

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 23:26:46 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'UUC BMW Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 1998 M3's
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Evidently not much.  I saw one the other day with a pizza delivery "hat" on
the roof.

Either that or pizza delivery guys are making nice bank these days.

Marco

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Cagann
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:09 PM
To: 'UUC BMW Digest'
Subject: [UUC] 1998 M3's


What are 1998 M3's doing on the 'real' market?  I'm not talking about what
Kelly b.s. book or Edmunds say...or blackbook or whatever. If you have
bought one recently, I'd like to hear what you paid. I would like to get one
for a driver, found a few so far. Prices on older M cars are all over the
place. I am just wondering what the real world ballpark figures are.  One in
particular is a 98 coupe 5 speed with 81k miles, silver and black.  Value?
Problem I am finding...you can't find the damned things!! BMW sold tons of
them but there are only a handful for sale in my area, even less most of the
time. Where are they?(no, don't tell me ebay...no thanks) Also, if anyone
has one for sale, I'm happy to listen. 

Alex

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:36:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Alex Cagann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "'UUC BMW Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 1998 M3's
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- Alex Cagann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What are 1998 M3's doing on the 'real' market?  I'm not talking about
> what
> Kelly b.s. book or Edmunds say...or blackbook or whatever. If you
> have
> bought one recently, I'd like to hear what you paid. I would like to
> get one
> for a driver, found a few so far. Prices on older M cars are all over
> the
> place. I am just wondering what the real world ballpark figures are.

I think all over the place is right.  I wanted a 95 M3 about a year and
a half ago so I posted a WTB message here.  I got a lot of offers of
cars and most were more than I wanted to spend ~$12K.  I ended up
buying a 98 M3 because the owner sold it to me at 95 M3 price ~$13K. 
And I ended up exactly with what I wanted, I didn't want a totally
stock car and wanted to do a few track events in it.  This one had
Bilsteins, Eibach springs, UUC sway bars, Big Brembo brakes, pulleys,
Conforti software and intake, and some other stuff.  I think that car
would've been a good deal at $16K so $13K was a no-brainer for me. 
That being said I heard someone scored a 97 or 98 shortly after I
bought mine for like $8K.  So yes prices are all over the place.

I'm sure you could find one for $12K or under if you look and are
willing to travel a bit.  I flew in to NJ for mine, the drive back to
MI wasn't bad at all.

Carlos
98 M3
89 325i picked it up in Cincinnati 


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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:13:14 -0800
From: Rex Tener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: Rex Tener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1998 M3's
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 10:09 PM 12/15/2006, Alex Cagann wrote:
>What are 1998 M3's doing on the 'real' market?

>Prices on older M cars are all over the place.

>Problem I am finding...you can't find the damned things!! BMW sold tons of
>them but there are only a handful for sale in my area, even less most of the
>time. Where are they?(no, don't tell me ebay...no thanks)

I have been seriously looking for the last six months for a 1995 M3 
or a M3 sedan and have had the exact same experience you are 
having.  The problem with sedans is half of them were automatics.

A 100K mile M3 Sedan with no records for $10K:

     
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290016147787&;>

A 57K mile M3 Sedan for $20K:

     <http://groups.msn.com/BMW/rfbsm3.msnw>

A 12K mile M3 Sedan for $30K (in the Roundel at that price):

     <http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=590537>

A 157 mile M3 Lightweight for $40K:

     
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160056004498&;>

Rex


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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:45:39 -0500
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 1998 M3's
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"Price" being different than "value", of course.  

Expect to find them from $12K to $19K.  Expect to find them
in greatly varying states of repair, condition, etc. 
Remember that it's no unusual for any recently-purchased E36
to need anywhere from $100 to $4000 worth of maintenance to
make it perfect.  Lots of little stuff adds up.

- Rob



----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'UUC BMW Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: [UUC]  1998 M3's
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:09:22 -0600

> What are 1998 M3's doing on the 'real' market?  I'm not
> talking about what Kelly b.s. book or Edmunds say...or
> blackbook or whatever. If you have bought one recently,
> I'd like to hear what you paid. I would like to get one
> for a driver, found a few so far. Prices on older M cars
> are all over the place. I am just wondering what the real
> world ballpark figures are.  One in particular is a 98
> coupe 5 speed with 81k miles, silver and black.  Value?
> Problem I am finding...you can't find the damned things!!
> BMW sold tons of them but there are only a handful for
> sale in my area, even less most of the time. Where are
> they?(no, don't tell me ebay...no thanks) Also, if anyone
> has one for sale, I'm happy to listen. 
> 
> Alexuucmotorwerks.com

- Rob Levinson
UUC Motorwerks * 908-874-9092 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com




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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:49:28 -0600
From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: e36 wilwood brakes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hey all,

We just mounted the wildwood brakes on one of our sponsored racers and we
are kinda puzzled as to why the pad doesn't use the entire width of the
rotor face.

Everything fits together as it's supposed to but it's like the caliper is
too far out.(see pics)

http://www.fastnetworking.com/brakes
 

Any ideas/suggestions/reprimands?!?

 

Thanks!!

 

Confused in Houston.


Paul A. Garnier
Houston, TX
281-827-0725
www.fastnetworking.com




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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:55:29 -0500
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: e36 wilwood brakes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Paul,

It's supposed to be that way.  The brake torque calculations
are based on specific dimensions of the pad height, rotor
diameter, piston area, etc.  This narrow swept area is
common among 4-piston brake setups, the difference is that
other designs with a 2-piece rotor design the center hat to
extend out radially further.  This design uses E46 M3
rotors, which are of course 1-piece iron where the swept
area extends all the way inward to a narrow built-in hat.

- Rob


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [UUC]  e36 wilwood brakes
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:49:28 -0600

> Hey all,
> 
> We just mounted the wildwood brakes on one of our
> sponsored racers and we are kinda puzzled as to why the
> pad doesn't use the entire width of the rotor face.
> 
> Everything fits together as it's supposed to but it's like
> the caliper is too far out.(see pics)
> 
> http://www.fastnetworking.com/brakes
>  
> 
> Any ideas/suggestions/reprimands?!?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
>  
> 
> Confused in Houston.
> 
> 
> Paul A. Garnier
> Houston, TX
> 281-827-0725
> www.fastnetworking.com
> 
> 
> 
> Search the
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> t.com
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________
> ________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend,
> enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of
> the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com

- Rob Levinson
UUC Motorwerks * 908-874-9092 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com




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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:32:06 -0500
From: Carey Probst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: E36M3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
        "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Portable GPS units
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I've decided to finally get a portable GPS unit I can switch between cars.

I've looked at the Garmin and Magellan units and would like some 
recommendations and advice as to best coverage, etc.

Thanks in advance

Carey

-- 

 

Carey Probst

'99M3 daily driver

'86 325 track toy, cammed, chipped, swayed

 

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:42:23 -0800
From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, E36M3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Portable GPS units
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Carey Probst wrote:
> I've decided to finally get a portable GPS unit I can switch between cars.
> 
> I've looked at the Garmin and Magellan units and would like some
> recommendations and advice as to best coverage, etc.

My next navigator will also be my next phone:  http://google.com/gmm
The maps never go stale, and the feature list keeps growing.



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