The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 303 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats One less BMW Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats SRS code reader Vienna, VA
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:32:11 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They'll fit in a 2002 with little or no modification, so your market may be bigger than you think. Once upon a time I bought a 2002 (long since sold) and the driver's seat was broken. I bought some 320i comfort seats from Double 02 Salvage and put them in the '02. Other than a rear height issue (which I pretty much ignored), they fit right in. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:35:15 -0500 >From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I kind of doubt these are worth the effort of selling. But just in case >there is someone out there that really wants them, I figured I'd throw out >the info. I've got a real BMW Recaro passenger seat in black vinyl from a >1983 320iS. The driver's seat is broken, but if these are rare and >desirable, it could probably be repaired. They'll stay in the car and go to >the crusher sometime soon. Again, I'm only offering these on the off chance >that they are rare and desirable. > >Stan >NH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:32:54 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They're also a direct fit for E12 and early E24. Maybe early E23 also. Brett Anderson KMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > They'll fit in a 2002 with little or no modification, so your market may be > bigger than you think. Once upon a time I bought a 2002 (long since sold) > and the driver's seat was broken. I bought some 320i comfort seats from > Double 02 Salvage and put them in the '02. Other than a rear height issue > (which I pretty much ignored), they fit right in. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:47:25 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Iirc the seat height issues can be dealt with by mixing and matching seat rails between early and late 2002 and 320. Those seats were a hot and desireable upgrade that bolted directly into the 2002s. Usually one of the first two items sold out from a 320iS wreck. Second one was the limited slip. Then the 5 speed. Some steering wheels were interchangeable too. Th passenger and driver Recaros are the same so you can swap them side to side. Subaru XT seats also made good 2002 conversions. What turned me on to how fertile 320iS parts cars were and how poorly those 13" wheels were at keeping the car upright was time I was paid for servicing an 82, then the guy left driving somewhere out of state on vacation. A few days later his checks bounce. After I knew he had returned home, he still wasn't returning phone calls. A couple of weeks later I get a call saying he wrecked the car, didn't have insurance, could I help him out. Of course, first thing, tow the car to my garage, extract the LSD, 5 speed, and Recaros. Moral is never to bounce a check to your BMW shop. Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >They'll fit in a 2002 with little or no modification, so your market may be >bigger than you think. Once upon a time I bought a 2002 (long since sold) >and the driver's seat was broken. I bought some 320i comfort seats from >Double 02 Salvage and put them in the '02. Other than a rear height issue >(which I pretty much ignored), they fit right in. > >Scott Miller >GGC BMW CCA > > >>Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:35:15 -0500 >>From: >>To: <[email protected]> >>Subject: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>I kind of doubt these are worth the effort of selling. But just in case >>there is someone out there that really wants them, I figured I'd throw out >>the info. I've got a real BMW Recaro passenger seat in black vinyl from a >>1983 320iS. The driver's seat is broken, but if these are rare and >>desirable, it could probably be repaired. They'll stay in the car and go to >>the crusher sometime soon. Again, I'm only offering these on the offchance >>that they are rare and desirable. >>Stan >>NH >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 21:27:48 -0500 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Barry. Is there any demand for the LSD, trans, or steering wheel today? What about the suspension and brakes? Rear disc conversion. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Stan Jackson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] FS?: E21 Recaro Seats > Iirc the seat height issues can be dealt with by mixing and > matching seat rails between early and late 2002 and 320. Those seats > were a hot and desireable upgrade that bolted directly into the 2002s. > Usually one of the first two items sold out from a 320iS wreck. Second > one was the limited slip. Then the 5 speed. Some steering wheels were > interchangeable too. Th passenger and driver Recaros are the same so > you can swap them side to side. Subaru XT seats also made good 2002 > conversions. > What turned me on to how fertile 320iS parts cars were and how > poorly those 13" wheels were at keeping the car upright was time I was > paid for servicing an 82, then the guy left driving somewhere out of > state on vacation. A few days later his checks bounce. After I knew he > had returned home, he still wasn't returning phone calls. A couple of > weeks later I get a call saying he wrecked the car, didn't have > insurance, could I help him out. Of course, first thing, tow the car to > my garage, extract the LSD, 5 speed, and Recaros. Moral is never to > bounce a check to your BMW shop. > Barry > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >They'll fit in a 2002 with little or no modification, so your market may be > >bigger than you think. Once upon a time I bought a 2002 (long since sold) > >and the driver's seat was broken. I bought some 320i comfort seats from > >Double 02 Salvage and put them in the '02. Other than a rear height issue > >(which I pretty much ignored), they fit right in. > > > >Scott Miller > >GGC BMW CCA > > > > > >>Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:35:15 -0500 > >>From: > >>To: <[email protected]> > >>Subject: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats > >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>I kind of doubt these are worth the effort of selling. But just in case > >>there is someone out there that really wants them, I figured I'd throw out > >>the info. I've got a real BMW Recaro passenger seat in black vinyl from a > >>1983 320iS. The driver's seat is broken, but if these are rare and > >>desirable, it could probably be repaired. They'll stay in the car and go to the crusher sometime soon. Again, I'm only offering these on the offchance that they are rare and desirable. > >>Stan > >>NH > >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 20:57:54 -0600 From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What I wanna know is if the old 5-speeds off the M30's fit the M50/S50 e36 motors?!?! The 5 speeds for e36's are getting hard to find.....grr. All these punk kids makin e30s50 conversions... Oops! That would be me =D Paul A. Garnier Houston, TX 281-827-0725 www.fastnetworking.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Jackson Jr. Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Thanks, Barry. Is there any demand for the LSD, trans, or steering wheel today? What about the suspension and brakes? Rear disc conversion. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Stan Jackson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] FS?: E21 Recaro Seats > Iirc the seat height issues can be dealt with by mixing and > matching seat rails between early and late 2002 and 320. Those seats > were a hot and desireable upgrade that bolted directly into the 2002s. > Usually one of the first two items sold out from a 320iS wreck. Second > one was the limited slip. Then the 5 speed. Some steering wheels were > interchangeable too. Th passenger and driver Recaros are the same so > you can swap them side to side. Subaru XT seats also made good 2002 > conversions. > What turned me on to how fertile 320iS parts cars were and how > poorly those 13" wheels were at keeping the car upright was time I was > paid for servicing an 82, then the guy left driving somewhere out of > state on vacation. A few days later his checks bounce. After I knew he > had returned home, he still wasn't returning phone calls. A couple of > weeks later I get a call saying he wrecked the car, didn't have > insurance, could I help him out. Of course, first thing, tow the car to > my garage, extract the LSD, 5 speed, and Recaros. Moral is never to > bounce a check to your BMW shop. > Barry > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >They'll fit in a 2002 with little or no modification, so your market may be > >bigger than you think. Once upon a time I bought a 2002 (long since sold) > >and the driver's seat was broken. I bought some 320i comfort seats from > >Double 02 Salvage and put them in the '02. Other than a rear height issue > >(which I pretty much ignored), they fit right in. > > > >Scott Miller > >GGC BMW CCA > > > > > >>Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:35:15 -0500 > >>From: > >>To: <[email protected]> > >>Subject: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats > >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>I kind of doubt these are worth the effort of selling. But just in case > >>there is someone out there that really wants them, I figured I'd throw out > >>the info. I've got a real BMW Recaro passenger seat in black vinyl from a > >>1983 320iS. The driver's seat is broken, but if these are rare and > >>desirable, it could probably be repaired. They'll stay in the car and go to the crusher sometime soon. Again, I'm only offering these on the offchance that they are rare and desirable. > >>Stan > >>NH > >> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:10:33 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The E36 and late E30 four cylinder engines are tilted an additional ten degrees from the E30 6 cylinder engine's design. The earlier ones will mate up but the drain plug won't be at the very bottom and the shifter won't stick straight up. Ed Paul Garnier wrote: > What I wanna know is if the old 5-speeds off the M30's fit the M50/S50 e36 > motors?!?! The 5 speeds for e36's are getting hard to find.....grr. All > these punk kids makin e30s50 conversions... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 21:27:14 -0600 From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So what would the fix be for the crooked shifter?... There was a crooked man and he drove a crooked mile... ;-) Paul A. Garnier 2002 M-Coupe '87 325is -> M330is Freshly rolled '95 M3, enjoy the carnage at www.fastnetworking.com/m3crash Houston, TX www.fastnetworking.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed MacVaugh Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:11 PM To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] FS?: E21 Recaro Seats The E36 and late E30 four cylinder engines are tilted an additional ten degrees from the E30 6 cylinder engine's design. The earlier ones will mate up but the drain plug won't be at the very bottom and the shifter won't stick straight up. Ed Paul Garnier wrote: > What I wanna know is if the old 5-speeds off the M30's fit the M50/S50 e36 > motors?!?! The 5 speeds for e36's are getting hard to find.....grr. All > these punk kids makin e30s50 conversions... Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:12:47 -0500 From: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul wrote: > So what would the fix be for the crooked shifter?... I don't believe the M30 transmission will work with an M50 conversion, but the ones which come with the M20 are a slam dunk with relatively easy mods to the linkage & mounting crossmember. join the E30 M/S5x engine swap group : http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/E30twincam/ > Freshly rolled '95 M3, enjoy the carnage at www.fastnetworking.com/m3crash yikes. where did you do that ? I can only assume that there were no major injuries even tho there's blood on the seat ? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:29:36 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Paul Garnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Freshly rolled '95 M3, enjoy the carnage at >> www.fastnetworking.com/m3crash Wow, that must've been some wreck, to get the front bumper into the back seat like that......... Brett Anderson KMS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:27:15 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: uuc Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Given that you need a custom driveshaft anyway, why not look at the stronger M3 trans, instead of the garbage Getrag 250 from the M50 cars. M30 trans won't work. Getrag 265/5 will work, with an 82 528e bell housing. Brett Anderson KMS Paul Garnier wrote: > What I wanna know is if the old 5-speeds off the M30's fit the M50/S50 e36 > motors?!?! The 5 speeds for e36's are getting hard to find.....grr. All > these punk kids makin e30s50 conversions... > > Oops! That would be me =D > > Paul A. Garnier ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:14:56 -0500 From: neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You might post these (or the whole car) on the VW Vortex (veedubbers have a thing for swapping seats) and/or the Grassroots Motorsports forums, especially the $2007 Challenge forum. Neil -- Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS -------------------- www.getcoffeecup.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:54:36 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]>, bmw digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: One less BMW Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Published Friday, October 27, 2006, by the Mountain View Voice Carless -- and doing fine Mountain View family says life is cheaper, less hectic on a bike By Daniel DeBolt A ping-pong table blocks the driveway in front of Sam and Kelly Rohlfs' Mountain View home. That might be an inconvenience for other families -- after all, the car has to go somewhere. But the Rohlfses aren't like other families: They don't have a car. The Rohlfses decided last fall to get rid of their last vehicle after feeling for years like it dominated their lives. When depreciation, maintenance and car payments were factored in, their 1999 BMW cost them $1,400 a month, Kelly Rohlfs said. "I think we're just totally normal people without a car," she said. For Sam Rohlfs, a last straw was when the sunroof stopped working and the repair bill was going to be astronomical. The couple was commuting through traffic on El Camino Real to Stanford every day, arriving at work frustrated and tense, they said. They found it was quicker to take their bikes on the train than sit in traffic. Or, if they chose, they could take a bus the whole way. Kelly said she and Sam asked themselves, "How many options have to exist before we get rid of our car?" Apparently seeing enough options, they took the plunge. And if it didn't work out, Sam figured, "You can always go back and buy a car." The Rohlfses say they've gotten used to the barrage of questions from people after hearing they don't have a car -- questions such as "How do you get groceries?" or "What if it rains?" or "What if there is an emergency?" "We call 911 like everyone else," Kelly said. As for groceries, the couple has bicycle trailers. According to a Web site they pointed to, <http://www.bikesatwork.com>, a person riding an average multi-speed bike can tow up to 300 pounds with the right gear ratio. Nor is wet weather a deterrent. Sam said if they were ever going to quit the bike routine, it would have been during the rainy season last year. But the couple invested in rain gear and say they love riding in the rain. "It's beautiful," Kelly said. If they need a car for whatever reason, the Rohlfses just rent one to suit their needs at the rental place two blocks away. And if there's a problem with the car? "You just drive it back and come home and play ping-pong," Kelly said. "It's not my worry." Sam claims he's lost 40 pounds since his bike became his sole transportation. The garbage can is also a little lighter, the couple claims, because they think twice before buying anything they have to drag home on their bike trailers. Now, instead of a car, the garage is filled with bikes and trailers. "Twenty percent of my land is dedicated to my car," Kelly said, referring to the long driveway to the back of her house. "It's hard to find anything attractive or useful to do with my driveway," Sam said, referring to the centrally located ping-pong table. The couple has at least four bikes to choose from. Sam said he wanted to make sure they spent money for some decent bikes and equipment. He thought the "car envy" he had would be gone with his car -- but now he said he finds himself with "bike envy" whenever he sees a nice bike. Kelly has a cup holder on her handlebars. "Even I go to Starbucks on the way to work," she said. Their son, 14-year-old Max, still wants a car when he turns 16. He said his peers are "astonished" that his parents don't have a car. But he's on the progressive side too: His automobile of choice when he turns 16 is a "Smart Car," a tiny gas powered machine from Europe that gets over 60 miles per gallon. He and his parents obviously had a disagreement on their hands as they went back and forth. "Bikes are dangerous," Max said. "People are much more likely to die in a car," his mom responded. When the Rohlfses drive a car now, they say, they aren't used to the speed. "The biggest surprise for me was how easy it was," Sam said about giving up his car for bikes and public transit. "I thought we were going to have to ramp it up, take it up a notch." But now it doesn't feel like a chore to run errands, he says. "It's more like a day out. "When people have to sit in traffic, they honk, they yell, "they are doing something they don't like to do," Sam said about the average driver. "We'd like all the cars to go away," he joked. "In our ideal world," Kelly added. "I just want to encourage people to give it a try," Sam said. "Things just don't get hectic on the bike." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 22:10:54 -0500 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Cc: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Stan Jackson Jr. wrote: >I kind of doubt these are worth the effort of selling. But just in case >there is someone out there that really wants them, I figured I'd throw out >the info. I've got a real BMW Recaro passenger seat in black vinyl from a >1983 320iS. The driver's seat is broken, but if these are rare and >desirable, it could probably be repaired. They'll stay in the car and go to >the crusher sometime soon. Again, I'm only offering these on the off chance >that they are rare and desirable. Stan, Those seats are very popular among 2002 owners. They drop right in and are a big improvement over the stock seats for those who do more than profile in the old cars. They're unique and somewhat hard to find these days and at least one guy is making a living restoring and reselling them. They're probably a good deal for someone who can take them from you cash-and-carry as seats are a pain for you to ship and expensive for someone to receive. Must be someone in the Boston area into 2002s who would love to take you up on the deal. I know I would if I were closer. Nice of you to offer them. I hope someone gets them that will use them. I've got a pair in one of my 2002s right now. Nice seats. -Phil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 22:57:57 -0500 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]>, "Phil Marx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FS?: E21 Recaro Seats Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Phil. Cash and carry would be perfect. I know how desirable the E30 sport seats are, which is why I did not want to toss these if I could find someone. But unless they have some real value, I'm not really up to putting a lot of effort into selling them. I've also got the drivetrain and suspension, including rear discs (non-stock), but I don't think any of that is of much value today. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Stan, > > Those seats are very popular among 2002 owners. They drop right in > and are a big improvement over the stock seats for those who do more > than profile in the old cars. They're unique and somewhat hard to > find these days and at least one guy is making a living restoring and > reselling them. They're probably a good deal for someone who can take > them from you cash-and-carry as seats are a pain for you to ship and > expensive for someone to receive. Must be someone in the Boston area > into 2002s who would love to take you up on the deal. I know I would > if I were closer. > > Nice of you to offer them. I hope someone gets them that will use > them. I've got a pair in one of my 2002s right now. Nice seats. > > -Phil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:50:25 +0000 (UTC) From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: SRS code reader Vienna, VA Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just got an SRS light and will need to diagnose it early next week to have my E36 passenger worthy for a DE event Nov 10-11. Does anybody in the Tysons/Reston, VA area have an SRS code reader/reset tool I can use? Otherwise I'll find a way to get to Bill Shook's shop, or I can just forego taking students out on the track. Marc Plante E36 M3/4 Vienna, VA ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
