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  Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay
  Re: OT - driver ed, was CHPs cracking down in South Bay
  Re: OT - driver ed, was CHPs cracking down in South Bay
  Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay
  Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay
  Re: Diff oil for '04 M3
  Re: Diff oil for '04 M3
  90 E34 525iA WTB - alt, blower fan
  90 E34 525iA cold weather issues
  Re: 90 E34 525iA cold weather issues
  Euro Fest 2007 BMW build car

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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:22:02 -0500
From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Safer, more intelligent enforcement of traffic laws should be the goal of 
> established law enforcement along with legislation to increase driver 
> training programs that actually teach people how to drive and not just scare 
> them in "driver school" with crash aftermath and alcohol related training 
> material.  Programs such as Street Survival and similar should be encouraged.

<Rant on>

Oooh, I was going to let this go, but this just touched on a nerve.

When I was learning to drive, I *wanted* to take a class on car control.  Not 
Drivers-Ed, or high performance driving, but a teen program designed to teach 
me how to control a car and NOT get into an accident.  The only class around a 
was a Skip Barber one that was *slightly* out of my meager budget... by about 
$2000.

The insurance company wouldn't even give me a credit for the training!

So I took my car over to a snow-covered parking lot and taught myself what to 
do and not do (skid recovery... turning and stopping in snow...)

A nice officer told me I could not do this here... I looked at the nice 
22yr-old kid (and being 17 at the time) and said something like 'would you 
prefer that I learn how to recover from a skid on public roads with other 
people around?'  
His response was 'No, but your having too much fun, and cut it out before I 
give you a ticket.'

But what do you expect from an organization that gives a speeding ticket to a 
14yr-old on a bicycle. (In August, 98F, hazy, hot and humid)... 48 in a 35 
zone, on a FLAT road!
The officer was getting pissed I had no ID on me... what ID does a 14yr-old 
carry?  A library card?

<Rant Off>
Thank you, I feel better now!

-Jason
'86 951 "Sparky"
'70 240Z "Dusty"
'97 Contour "Bambi"
'03 325xi "Daisy"


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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:53:57 -0500
From: "marshall lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Jason Kay'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: OT - driver ed, was CHPs cracking down in South Bay
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

<rant on>
I actually teach at teen car control clinics with various clubs. In one
clinic two high school drivers ed instructors took the class.  I was
horrified by how poorly they drove and how clueless they were about even the
basics.  Neither of them had ever felt what abs does, and evidently they are
now teaching kids to hold the steering wheel at the 5 and 7 positions.
Shuffle steering is taught so that the hands never get above the 3 and 9
positions.  Seats were adjusted far enough back so that the kids couldn't
reach the top of the wheel.  This is so WHEN (not if) they hit something and
the airbag goes off, it won't break their wrists.  After I found that out I
went and canvassed some coworkers with driving age kids, sure enough, all
the high school programs are teaching the same thing. Geez, this is
basically accepting that kids won't have the skills to avoid an accident so
prepare for the inevitable.. Actually, limiting hand movement like that
pretty much ensures they will not be able to avoid anything.

Does anybody wonder why drivers in this country are so bad?  Or why the
fallacy of "speed kills" is so prevalent when it is actually "inept drivers
who can't control their cars at any speed" which kills?
<rant off>

marshall



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Kay
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 4:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UUC] OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay

> Safer, more intelligent enforcement of traffic laws should be the goal of
established law enforcement along with legislation to increase driver
training programs that actually teach people how to drive and not just scare
them in "driver school" with crash aftermath and alcohol related training
material.  Programs such as Street Survival and similar should be
encouraged.

<Rant on>

Oooh, I was going to let this go, but this just touched on a nerve.

When I was learning to drive, I *wanted* to take a class on car control.
Not Drivers-Ed, or high performance driving, but a teen program designed to
teach me how to control a car and NOT get into an accident.  The only class
around a was a Skip Barber one that was *slightly* out of my meager
budget... by about $2000.

The insurance company wouldn't even give me a credit for the training!

So I took my car over to a snow-covered parking lot and taught myself what
to do and not do (skid recovery... turning and stopping in snow...)

A nice officer told me I could not do this here... I looked at the nice
22yr-old kid (and being 17 at the time) and said something like 'would you
prefer that I learn how to recover from a skid on public roads with other
people around?'  
His response was 'No, but your having too much fun, and cut it out before I
give you a ticket.'

But what do you expect from an organization that gives a speeding ticket to
a 14yr-old on a bicycle. (In August, 98F, hazy, hot and humid)... 48 in a 35
zone, on a FLAT road!
The officer was getting pissed I had no ID on me... what ID does a 14yr-old
carry?  A library card?

<Rant Off>
Thank you, I feel better now!

-Jason
'86 951 "Sparky"
'70 240Z "Dusty"
'97 Contour "Bambi"
'03 325xi "Daisy"

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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:29:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT - driver ed, was CHPs cracking down in South Bay
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Preacher, meet choir.

-tammer

--- marshall lytle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anybody wonder why drivers in this country are so
> bad?  Or why the
> fallacy of "speed kills" is so prevalent when it is
> actually "inept drivers
> who can't control their cars at any speed" which kills?



 
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:28:11 -0800
From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On 2/11/07, Jason Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I took my car over to a snow-covered parking lot and
> taught myself what to do and not do (skid recovery...
> turning and stopping in snow...)

This seems to be fairly common among young men in places where there's
snow, but unusual among their feminine counterparts.  Why is that?
Girls don't just wanna have fun?

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:51:20 -0500
From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On 2/11/07, Jason Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So I took my car over to a snow-covered parking lot and
> > taught myself what to do and not do (skid recovery...
> > turning and stopping in snow...)
> 
> This seems to be fairly common among young men in places where there's
> snow, but unusual among their feminine counterparts.  Why is that?
> Girls don't just wanna have fun?


So, when my Wife's 325xi showed up, and it snowed the first time... I told her 
that we are going to take her car across the street and find out how it handles 
when it loses traction... she said that she didn't want to.
(Mind you our 3rd 'date' was a Driver's Ed event in my 'other' german car :)

Then she slid down a snow covered driveway on those nasty all-season Goodyears 
the car came with.

(the test session would have shown how bad the goodyears were in the snow... 
the good news is that she didn't hit anything.)

a week later the nice FedEx man was dropping off 4 mounted Blizzak LMs that 
went onto the 325xi.

The following snow storm I took the car over to the school lot to figure things 
out... she still didn't come with.

She likes to ski, and drive, but not doing the same together... unlike the 
'breakfast club' from this month's Roundel.

Oh well, more snow for me!
Now I just need to find the excuse :)

-Jason
'86 951 "Sparky"
'70 240Z "Dusty"
'97 Contour "Bambi"
'03 325xi "Daisy"





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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:18:01 -0600
From: "Allen Skillicorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andy G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Diff oil for '04 M3
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I don't the diff in the gear lube, but is the chatter that bad? The chatter is 
the diff working. If more friction modifier is added, the less lockup the diff 
has - and less chatter is tight parking lot maneuvers.

If it ain't broke, you may opt out of fixing it...

btw I use Redline lubes in my diffs.

 

 
Allen Skillicorn
847/417/5611
847/271/8175
www.allenskillicorn.com 

"The snow is not a handicap. It is your best training partner. Racers don't 
have an off-season." --Ryosuke Takahashi



-----Original Message-----
83 22 1 470 080 (Castrol SAF-XJ) - original?

83 22 2 282 583 (Castrol SAF-XJ with additional friction modifiers) - 
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:44:19 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Allen Skillicorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Diff oil for '04 M3
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Doesn't the M3 have an MVariable diff?  That shouldn't chatter at all.
Gary Derian



>I don't the diff in the gear lube, but is the chatter that bad? The chatter 
>is the diff working. If more friction modifier is added, the less lockup 
>the diff has - and less chatter is tight parking lot maneuvers.
>
> If it ain't broke, you may opt out of fixing it...
>
> btw I use Redline lubes in my diffs.


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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:29:41 -0800 (PST)
From: roland beaudette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: 90 E34 525iA WTB - alt, blower fan
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On the off chance a list member has something needing
a new home, I'm looking for the following.

blower fan (squirrel cage thingy)
alternator

Am I right in believing that any E34 alternator of the
same amperage or larger is suitable?

If it's not a hassle, I would appreciate a cc to my
work address.  I'll see it sooner.

Cheers,

Roland


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:52:54 -0800 (PST)
From: roland beaudette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: 90 E34 525iA cold weather issues
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm hoping some of you can help me diagnose a problem
on my car.

With the onset of cold (below freezing) weather in the
NE my car battery appears to discharge quickly.
Happened last year but I ignored it.  No problems
during warmer weather.

It discharges so quickly that the car will start in
the morning but the batt can barely turn the starter
by the end of a workday.  Tired of bothering
co-workers for jumps I tried to diagnose the issue.

I started with a freshly charged battery (40 min @ 40
amps; 700 CCA batt).  An HF load tester, one time,
checked it as good with some reserve.  The load tester
indicated the alternator was bad.  The DMM & Bentley
agree; approx 13.6 volts at the terminals.

To be thorough, I used the DMM to check for parasitic
losses when the car is off.  I actually couldn't get a
reading and so double checked by turning on the front
overhead light (not map).  About .250 mA but zero
otherwise.

Posts are clean, no rust and everything appears to be
connected well.  Two modifications of note.  First the
batt was moved to the rear seat location from the
engine bay; it's easier to perform oil changes and I
like it.  Secondly, stereo; nothing fancy just 150 W
or so plus a cheap Bazooka tube.

Did I miss something?  Am I stupid?  With 255k miles I
can expect the alt to be shot.  The regulator is 30k
miles (3 yrs) old.

>From a previous posts some of you might notice I'm
looking for an alt.  This seems a certainty based on
the load test and DMM.  What it won't cure, to me, is
the apparent discharging while sitting w/out parasitic
losses.  A thought, is 700 CCA sufficient in this
weather?  It was a southern car previously.

I would appreciate a cc to my work address so I can
act on any comments.

Cheers,

Roland


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:24:57 -0800 (PST)
From: roland beaudette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fuerst, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 90 E34 525iA cold weather issues
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Chris,

Thanks for the thoughts.

Autozone tested it about one month ago and this
weekend was a Harbor Freight tester.

The battery was bought after the head rebuild about
3.5 yr ago.

The brush pack is part of the voltage regulator. 
Given the old pack had life at 230k miles, unless it
prematurely failed, it should be good for another
230k?

My daily commute is 4 mi, one way.

Cheers,

Roalnd
--- "Fuerst, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
> Roland, did you try to just take the battery to
> autozone or advance and
> have them bench test it?
> How old is it? At least a year from your post? 7-800
> cca's should be
> fine. Might have a dead cell
> Or such so you have volatge but not really enough
> amps.
> 
> Might be worthwhile to change the alternator brush
> pack. They only run
> 30-40. How long of a drive does it get?
> 
> 1st


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:44:37 -0600
From: "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Uucdigest" <[email protected]>,
        "Senior Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "E9coupes BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Euro Fest 2007 BMW build car
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Tax write-off anyone ?? From another digest today ..
Beepee

>> Hello Peachtree BMW CCA members,
>>
>> Besides working for the BMW CCA Foundation, I am on the Euro Fest 
>> committee.  If
>> you are not familiar with Euro Fest, it is an event held every year at 
>> the BMW
>> Manufacturing for all European and British cars.  Last year, I believe 
>> there
>> were around 500 cars of all makes displayed on the lawn outside the 
>> factory.
>> Great event to go to if you love to see older cars (and some new cars as 
>> well).
>>
>> In 2006, the committee got a 1976 BMW 2002 which the Performance Center 
>> crew
>> reworked, gave it a new paint job, new custom interior, etc.  The car was
>> raffled off to everyone with the proceeds going to the Red Cross.  The 
>> group
>> would like to get another car that could be used for the â?oEuro Build 
>> Car�
>> for 2007.  They would like to stick with a BMW since then the Performance 
>> Center
>> would donate their time and funding to help restore the car, however, 
>> they are
>> not opposed to looking at any European or British car.  (This would mean 
>> having
>> to find an outside source to restore the car â?" possibly also having to 
>> find
>> funding to support these costs with an outside source.)  They would like 
>> to have
>> some sort of a coupe this year, if possible â?" a 6 series, 3.0CS, 
>> 2800CS, etc.
>>
>> They are hoping someone out there may be willing to donate a car for this
>> project.  Your donation would be to the Red Cross and could be a tax 
>> write off.
>> They do have a very small budget for the car, which they could buy a car, 
>> but
>> then it takes away from the budget to buy parts if BMW wonâ?Tt donate 
>> them.
>> Also if possible, preferably a car that has minimal rust â?" no gaping 
>> holes in
>> the body and such.  Some dents, bad paint, bad interior are ok since that 
>> would
>> all probably be reworked.  Preferably a whole car or very complete and if 
>> not
>> running, close to running.
>>
>> So if you are interested and would like to talk to someone about your car 
>> to see
>> if they would be interested (any BMW or other European/British cars) let 
>> me
>> know.  I can then get you in touch with the right people.
>>
>> Michael R. Mitchell
>> Office Manager/Curator
>>
>> BMW Car Club of America Foundation
>> 4001 Pelham Rd Suite 291
>> Greer, SC 29650
>>
>> (864) 329-1919
>> www.bmwccafoundation.org


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