The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 274 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: e90 330i impressions & misc. ramblings Re: e90 330i impressions & misc. ramblings Rally and GP of China Viewing in Mass and New Hampshire Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Re: e90 330i impressions & misc. ramblings
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:43:15 -0400 From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: e90 330i impressions & misc. ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And if the purist in you scoffs at the luxury in the Lotus Exige/Elise combo, you can always get a Cunnigham Super7 (Street-Legal go-cart?) (and Porsche has the cojones to strip some of this stuff out of its cars, call it a GT2/3 RS... and then sell it for ridiculous money.) Thankfully, the 330i we had did NOT have iDrive... -Jason '86 951 "Sparky" '70 240Z "Dusty" '97 Contour "Bambi" '03 325xi "Daisy" > Paul wrote: > > >I am somewhat at a loss to understand what all the additional features are > that have been added to cars in the last 5 or so years that requires so many > inputs. Yes, navigation has added additional features, but I don't see why > this would overburden the available real estate. > > >What are all the additional gizmos that need inputs? > > ============================== > > Well, I think your question hangs on the verb, "need". You (and I) clearly > prefer a baseline of, say, the E36, or maybe even the E28, in terms of being > the optimal level comfort and safety features, especially those that allow > the user to control them. Who needs anything beyond that, right? > > Well, let's see. > > Climate control: yeah, we were fine with knobs for fan speeds, placement > and temp. But with automatic climate control, we also got dual (or three or > four) zone temp control, multiple placements (passenger wants it blowing in > his face, you want it on your feet). Defrost mode? Sure. Recirc? Yup. > A/C compressor on? Ok. Don't forget rear defog. Oh, and heat up the > exterior mirrors. Heated seats on? If so, to low, medium or high? And > another set of controls for the REAR seats too. Or the third row, if you're > going that far. > > Power seats. Nice, no? 11-way. 13-way? Power headrests, lumbar, thigh > extensions. MEMORY for different drivers (I love this feature). Adjusts > outside mirrors too (heck, on some MBs, it adjusts the inside mirror as > well). Don't forget to adjust the tilt/telescope of the wheel too. And > move the shoulder belt attachment point up and down. Wait - cooling fans in > the seat too? Can't forget that. > > Phone controls? Can't forget those. Duplicates on the steering wheel, as > well as cruise control controls (redundant?) - oh, hey, ACTIVE cruise > control requires, well, even more controls. Back up warning system? > Another button or two. Heck, warn about stuff up fron too! > > SMG settings, steptronic modes, sport modes, traction control/ASR modes, all > require input. Personalize for the driver? That's nice. > > Oh, and massive stereo options. Wanna listen to AM/FM/XM/Sirius? Digital > AM/FM? Play CDs, tapes, MP3s? A 6-disc changer, or built in HD? iPod > interface? Bluetooth settings? Do you want the car to sound like a > symphony hall, jazz club, stadium, or your living room? Want more bass out > of the 7 speakers in front or 6 speakers in back? Play DVDs? Watch live > TV? Check your email? > > Onstar? Have your car automatically message you when it needs service? > > Misc stuff too. Rain sensing wipers? Trip computers - how to display, how > to program? Outside temperature and compass readings? Power tailgate? > Sunroof - open, close, vent? Daytime running lights, on or off? Alarm > system settings? How do you want your dash display lit? How cool do you > want the drink in the glovebox? > > ========= > > Yeah, I'm missing some stuff. But given all of these "features", there is > definitely a shortage of space to "input" them all. > > And the curmudgeons among us can whine about how the optimal level of > creature comfort was reached years ago. I'm one of them, quite happy with > the E38/E39, but there are those who say that the E28 or E32 or E34 was > fine. And those who still think the 2002 was the pinnacle of all that > anyone could possibly need. > > Reality is that the market is producing all of these luxury items because > consumers WANT them. They may want them because they're small minded sheep, > but they do WANT THEM. > > And, hey, let's not be hypocritical too. We're continuing to buy these > things, whereas a base Honda Accord is probably faster than an E28, gets > better mileage, carries more stuff, is way more reliable, a lot safer, and > has as more luxury, but we're not talking about Accords, are we? :-) > > Vty, > > --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:04:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: e90 330i impressions & misc. ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think you were after Caterham. http://www.caterham.co.uk/ -tammer --- Jason Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And if the purist in you scoffs at the luxury in the > Lotus Exige/Elise combo, you can always get a Cunnigham > Super7 (Street-Legal go-cart?) > > (and Porsche has the cojones to strip some of this stuff > out of its cars, call it a GT2/3 RS... and then sell it > for ridiculous money.) > > Thankfully, the 330i we had did NOT have iDrive... > > > -Jason > '86 951 "Sparky" > '70 240Z "Dusty" > '97 Contour "Bambi" > '03 325xi "Daisy" > > > > Paul wrote: > > > > >I am somewhat at a loss to understand what all the > additional features are > > that have been added to cars in the last 5 or so years > that requires so many > > inputs. Yes, navigation has added additional features, > but I don't see why > > this would overburden the available real estate. > > > > >What are all the additional gizmos that need inputs? > > > > ============================== > > > > Well, I think your question hangs on the verb, "need". > You (and I) clearly > > prefer a baseline of, say, the E36, or maybe even the > E28, in terms of being > > the optimal level comfort and safety features, > especially those that allow > > the user to control them. Who needs anything beyond > that, right? > > > > Well, let's see. > > > > Climate control: yeah, we were fine with knobs for fan > speeds, placement > > and temp. But with automatic climate control, we also > got dual (or three or > > four) zone temp control, multiple placements (passenger > wants it blowing in > > his face, you want it on your feet). Defrost mode? > Sure. Recirc? Yup. > > A/C compressor on? Ok. Don't forget rear defog. Oh, > and heat up the > > exterior mirrors. Heated seats on? If so, to low, > medium or high? And > > another set of controls for the REAR seats too. Or the > third row, if you're > > going that far. > > > > Power seats. Nice, no? 11-way. 13-way? Power > headrests, lumbar, thigh > > extensions. MEMORY for different drivers (I love this > feature). Adjusts > > outside mirrors too (heck, on some MBs, it adjusts the > inside mirror as > > well). Don't forget to adjust the tilt/telescope of > the wheel too. And > > move the shoulder belt attachment point up and down. > Wait - cooling fans in > > the seat too? Can't forget that. > > > > Phone controls? Can't forget those. Duplicates on the > steering wheel, as > > well as cruise control controls (redundant?) - oh, hey, > ACTIVE cruise > > control requires, well, even more controls. Back up > warning system? > > Another button or two. Heck, warn about stuff up fron > too! > > > > SMG settings, steptronic modes, sport modes, traction > control/ASR modes, all > > require input. Personalize for the driver? That's > nice. > > > > Oh, and massive stereo options. Wanna listen to > AM/FM/XM/Sirius? Digital > > AM/FM? Play CDs, tapes, MP3s? A 6-disc changer, or > built in HD? iPod > > interface? Bluetooth settings? Do you want the car to > sound like a > > symphony hall, jazz club, stadium, or your living room? > Want more bass out > > of the 7 speakers in front or 6 speakers in back? Play > DVDs? Watch live > > TV? Check your email? > > > > Onstar? Have your car automatically message you when > it needs service? > > > > Misc stuff too. Rain sensing wipers? Trip computers - > how to display, how > > to program? Outside temperature and compass readings? > Power tailgate? > > Sunroof - open, close, vent? Daytime running lights, > on or off? Alarm > > system settings? How do you want your dash display > lit? How cool do you > > want the drink in the glovebox? > > > > ========= > > > > Yeah, I'm missing some stuff. But given all of these > "features", there is > > definitely a shortage of space to "input" them all. > > > > And the curmudgeons among us can whine about how the > optimal level of > > creature comfort was reached years ago. I'm one of > them, quite happy with > > the E38/E39, but there are those who say that the E28 > or E32 or E34 was > > fine. And those who still think the 2002 was the > pinnacle of all that > > anyone could possibly need. > > > > Reality is that the market is producing all of these > luxury items because > > consumers WANT them. They may want them because > they're small minded sheep, > > but they do WANT THEM. > > > > And, hey, let's not be hypocritical too. We're > continuing to buy these > > things, whereas a base Honda Accord is probably faster > than an E28, gets > > better mileage, carries more stuff, is way more > reliable, a lot safer, and > > has as more luxury, but we're not talking about > Accords, are we? :-) > > > > Vty, > > > > --Dennis > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:01:44 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW List" <[email protected]> Subject: Rally and GP of China Viewing in Mass and New Hampshire Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, all. The New England Region of the Ferrari Club of America is doing a rally and GP of China Viewing in MA/NH this Sunday. To make things more fun, BMW club members are invited as well. For you locals, consider coming along for the drive and/or the party! For those of you that know them, Laurie and Andy Sanborn are long time SCCA racers (multiple championships). (Rooting for Ferrari/Schumacher is not mandatory!) Rally and China GP Viewing, Sunday, October 1st ----------------------------------------------- As the most exciting F1 season in recent memory is drawing to a close, fans are on the edge of their seats, watching to see whether the prince can defend his title against the return of the king. The traveling circus is moving to Asia in October, with the GP of China being held on Sunday, October 1st in the shiny new Shanghai circuit. Due to the time zone difference, most of us will be watching the race on our TIVOs, so Laurie Sanborn, our NH Chapter President, has decided to hold another GP viewing (tape-delayed) in the most popular sports-bar in New Hampshire - "The DRAFT". Since we had the British GP viewing back in June on this hang-out's OPENING DAY, the Draft has become a local phenomenon, with over $100k of TVs alone. We'll have the entire VIP lounge area to ourselves, where you can't turn your head without being able to see the race on yet another big plasma or projection TV. Oh, and, as one attendee of the last event said, "man, the waitresses are sure easy on the eyes." http://www.photoworks.com/share/shareLanding.jsp?shareCode=AE9D682C157&cb=PW RALLY kick-off point: parking lot of Moto Market, 481 Great Rd, Acton, MA 01720 at 9:30 am. This is a cool little motorcycle apparel and accessory store that has a café. Usually pretty busy on weekend mornings as a hangout for motorcyclists. Grab some coffee, check out some sport bikes, then hit the road for a drive through some curvy roads in central MA and NH before ending up at The Draft, located at 67 S Main St, Concord, NH, just off of I-93. Meet us there, or head directly to the Draft, where the GP will start playing at 11:30. It wouldn't hurt to (a) bring your FRS/GMRS radios, and (b) arrive with a full tank of gas. No charge for the rally or viewing (everyone pays for his or her own food and drink). PLEASE let me know if you're coming!!! Vty, --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:05:04 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Roland, I live in Germany. I just checked out the prices for OE Hella e34 lights - for another lister last month. They run 150 euros PER side - for the real-deal. That is a little bit over $400 for both sides, at todays exchange rates. ⬠1 buys $1.31. I would think any person or grey market importer would try to charge $600(atleast!) for the set to cover thier overhead. take care, David ............................... In a message dated 28.09.2006 19:04:55 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've scoped out the prices to replace my road salt/sand blasted lenses. It's roughly $180 per side. OUCH. Since I missed a nice EBay deal (l/r pair at $20), I am looking to do something else a bit cheaper. Has anyone bought the lens replacements on EBay? It's certainly cheap and I'll have to exercise some care for the repair. But it seems doable. Worse comes to worse I'm out the cash. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&item=3200319 65475&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT Or the next step up is to search the UUC archives for how to use Hella's? inside the existing lamp housing. Cheers, Roland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:29:11 -0700 From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "UUC ([email protected])" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Abrahams Motorsport (http://www.abrahamsmotorsport.com/) sells smoked Hella's for $500 but its another $139 for all of the connectors (although interestingly enough, they sell E30 Hella's for $429+$47 for the kit). Sincerely, Mark Gold Sacramento Valley Chapter BMWCCA On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello Roland, > > I live in Germany. I just checked out the prices for OE Hella e34 > lights - > for another lister last month. They run 150 euros PER side - for > the real-deal. > That is a little bit over $400 for both sides, at todays exchange > rates. 1 > buys $1.31. > > I would think any person or grey market importer would try to charge > $600(atleast!) for the set to cover thier overhead. > > > take care, > David > > ............................... > In a message dated 28.09.2006 19:04:55 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I've scoped out the prices to replace my road salt/sand blasted > lenses. > It's roughly $180 per side. OUCH. Since I missed a nice EBay deal > (l/r > pair at $20), I am looking to do something else a bit cheaper. > > Has anyone bought the lens replacements on EBay? It's certainly > cheap and > I'll have to exercise some care for the repair. But it seems > doable. Worse > comes to worse I'm out the cash. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > ViewItem&ih=011&item=3200319 > 65475&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT > > Or the next step up is to search the UUC archives for how to use > Hella's? > inside the existing lamp housing. > > Cheers, > > Roland > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > [email protected] > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the > BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:01:52 -0400 From: Felix Vicente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've scoped out the prices to replace my road salt/sand blasted lenses. > It's roughly $180 per side. OUCH. Since I missed a nice EBay deal (l/r > pair at $20), I am looking to do something else a bit cheaper. > > Has anyone bought the lens replacements on EBay? It's certainly cheap and > I'll have to exercise some care for the repair. But it seems doable. Worse > comes to worse I'm out the cash. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&item=3200319 > 65475&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT remember you can also use E32 headlights, they are identical to the E34 units. I still hold hope to one day find E32 750 Xenons at some junkyard to retrofit our E34..... -felix miami,fl 01 540/6 98 740 95 525 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:48:15 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a pair but they are in my basement, rather than in a junkyard. Contact me off line. I can't use them because my 7 is supercharged and the cone filter is in the headlight well. Ed Felix Vicente wrote: I still hold hope to one day find E32 750 Xenons at some junkyard to > retrofit our E34..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:57:28 -0400 From: Felix Vicente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ed, how much are you looking to get for them and are bulbs/ballasts included? -Felix On 9/28/06 8:48 PM, "Ed MacVaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a pair but they are in my basement, rather than in a junkyard. > > Contact me off line. I can't use them because my 7 is supercharged and > the cone filter is in the headlight well. > > Ed > > Felix Vicente wrote: > > I still hold hope to one day find E32 750 Xenons at some junkyard to >> retrofit our E34..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:20:15 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They are complete assemblies, high and low beams with frame and ballasts on the back. I paid $1200 for one of them at the dealer following a deer strike, so you can't begin to offer what I have in them :-) Make me your best offer, I have one other guy in line behind you. Ed Felix Vicente wrote: > Ed, > > how much are you looking to get for them and are bulbs/ballasts included? > > -Felix > > > On 9/28/06 8:48 PM, "Ed MacVaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>I have a pair but they are in my basement, rather than in a junkyard. >> >>Contact me off line. I can't use them because my 7 is supercharged and >>the cone filter is in the headlight well. >> >>Ed >> >>Felix Vicente wrote: >> >> I still hold hope to one day find E32 750 Xenons at some junkyard to >> >>>retrofit our E34..... > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:35:36 -0400 From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Repairing ellipsoid h'lights (E34 525iA) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Except only factory lights fit in an E34, unless you make something yourself. Gary Derian" Which has been done. If you're interested and can't find it in the archives, let me know. I know the guy who put E-code Hellas in an E-34. ;-) Karl '94 525 touring "Bright Eyes" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date: 9/26/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:03:17 -0400 From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: e90 330i impressions & misc. ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At the end of the day, idrive is the worst of the new cars that have it (i.e. MB, Audi, etc) and even those companies should think of something new. Clyde 98 M3/4 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [UUC] e90 330i impressions & misc. ramblings >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:50:53 -0700 > > >Neil, I only partly agree that iDrive was not necessary. It was not >necessary as long as cars continued to have the same controls and >functionality that they've had for the last 20+ years. The "problem" is >that BMW feels that their cars need to offer drivers more gizmos and >features so that they're "better" than the competition. There is only so >much real estate on the dash, so they need to make fewer controls do more >things. But like you said, it's not what you do, it's how you do it. >There was a time when BMWs were a model of ergonomic efficiency, so that >the driver's attention could remain on the road. The added complication of >the controls, iDrive or otherwise, means that the driver's attention is >elsewhere, which is not safe. Or maybe they just figure that if they >surround the cabin's occupants with every imaginable airbag, it is OK for >them to have a few more accidents? > >Scott Miller >GGC BMW CCA > > >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:57:45 -0400 > >From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: e90 330i impressions & misc. ramblings > >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ><snip> > > >The Active Steering option, which strikes me as yet > >another BMW solution to a problem nobody was having - iDrive anyone? - >does > >have an electronic control unit. > > > >BTW, I see nothing wrong with electronic assist. It's not what you do, >it's > >how you do it. ><snip> > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(11 messages) **********
