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  Re: high mounted center brake light question
  Re: high mounted center brake light question
  Re: high mounted center brake light question
  Re: high mounted center brake light question
  Re: high mounted center brake light question
  Re: RE>E30 tranny seals
  Thoughts on a 318ti?
  Re: Thoughts on a 318ti?
  Re: Thoughts on a 318ti?
  Re: Koni DA shock rebuilder
  Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage
  Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage
  Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage
  Photo: Was Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage
  Re: high mounted center brake light question

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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:42:09 -0400
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

How early a car would that have to be?  GM was offering air bags as 
options as far back as 1973.

Brett Anderson
KMS


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ed,
> I see your interest in getting rock solid documentation about the dates on
> the high mounted brake lights but then again you might get a judge like
> that who allowed a suit which contended that GM should have had an air bag
> in a car before the time the technology was available. ( a few years ago as
> I recall).


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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:28:08 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Many safety features used today are not required at all such as brake-shift 
interlocks and side airbags.
Gary Derian

> How early a car would that have to be?  GM was offering air bags as 
> options as far back as 1973.
>
> Brett Anderson
> KMS
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Ed,
>> I see your interest in getting rock solid documentation about the dates 
>> on
>> the high mounted brake lights but then again you might get a judge like
>> that who allowed a suit which contended that GM should have had an air 
>> bag
>> in a car before the time the technology was available. ( a few years ago 
>> as
>> I recall).


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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:52:02 -0400
From: johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well stated GD!
Solid logic, as usual.

cheers!
jpg

Gary Derian wrote:
> The job of an advocate is to do anything he can to support his 
> client.  The lawyer is not the finder of fact, that is the job of the 
> jury, or judge, if there is no jury.  The UUC list is not a reliable 
> source, but someone here may be able to point to a reliable source.
>
> If you have already decided the fate of the people who were stopped 
> for no other reason than the third brake light didn't work, then you 
> are not a reliable source nor a reliable finder of fact.
>
> Our legal system isn't perfect, but its better than any other system 
> yet devised.
>
> Gary Derian
>
>> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 7:12:02 pm Ed MacVaugh wrote:
>>> People don't pay me to clean up repair tickets. It was the quantity of
>>> crack cocaine in the seat that people pay me to take care of.
>>
>> I was not aware that the UUC list was a reliable source of 
>> information for
>> attorneys to use in a court of law...I guess that's why I was not 
>> sure of the
>> detail you were after. Hell, if I knew this was to help defend 
>> someone who
>> got busted with crack cocaine in the car I would not have  even 
>> responded ;-)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Search the 
>> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>>
>>
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>>
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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:13:04 -0500
From: "Dennis Wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The knee-jerk reaction is to think "Too bad for these clowns. They are
driving around with crack laying out on the seat of their car they
deserve to get put away."

Then you have to think, what happens if the cops quit playing by the
"rules" ?  If they are allowed to pull anyone over for any reason just
so they can search or look in your car?  Or worse, come in your house
at any time just because they can, search it, check or confiscate your
computers - all just to see if they can find anything they could
charge you with?  I would rather Gary's idjits go free than to allow
the rules to be bypassed.

I am no tree hugging liberal, but we do have that whole Constitution
"unreasonable" search and seizure thing for a reason.  Besides, this
should scare them straight, right? Or they will be so dumb they will
get caught next time in a legit stop. But we can't allow some "I
pulled you over because your 3rd brake light is not working" excuse on
a truck that never had and was never required to have such a light.

Dennis

On 9/4/07, Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The job of an advocate is to do anything he can to support his client.  The
> lawyer is not the finder of fact, that is the job of the jury, or judge, if
> there is no jury.  The UUC list is not a reliable source, but someone here
> may be able to point to a reliable source.
>
> If you have already decided the fate of the people who were stopped for no
> other reason than the third brake light didn't work, then you are not a
> reliable source nor a reliable finder of fact.
>
> Our legal system isn't perfect, but its better than any other system yet
> devised.
>
> Gary Derian
>
> > On Tuesday 04 September 2007 7:12:02 pm Ed MacVaugh wrote:
> >> People don't pay me to clean up repair tickets. It was the quantity of
> >> crack cocaine in the seat that people pay me to take care of.
> >
> > I was not aware that the UUC list was a reliable source of information for
> > attorneys to use in a court of law...I guess that's why I was not sure of
> > the
> > detail you were after. Hell, if I knew this was to help defend someone who
> > got busted with crack cocaine in the car I would not have  even responded
> > ;-)
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________________
> > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> >
> > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>

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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:24:27 -0400
From: Vic Maslanka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I didn't even know that Gary had relatives in Baltimore.  :-)

Vic

At 09:13 AM 9/5/2007, Dennis wrote:
>... I would rather Gary's idjits go free than to allow the rules to 
>be bypassed.



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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:09:28 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: RE>E30 tranny seals
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Worn shafts definitely cause seals to leak.  That is why they make sleeves 
to repair them.
Gary Derian


> tranny or other) that the actual shaft wears a bit and winds up with 
> reduced diameter where the seal rides.  When you replace the seal,  you 
> are supposed to position it a bit further deeper (or maybe  shallower?) 
> than the original so that it rides on the shaft behind  (or in front of) 
> the old seal and where the shaft is unworn.  I would  SPECULATE that while 
> with a brand new seal, at first it is tight on  the shaft, even if the 
> shaft has a worn/reduced diameter, but a  little bit of wear and aging on 
> the seal and it starts to weep??


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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:54:50 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Christopher Anrig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Thoughts on a 318ti?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all, 
I'm looking at 94 318ti later and thought I'd poll the collective wisdom of the 
digest. It's a clean, manual w/ 129k on the ticker. It's been dealer serviced, 
on schedule w/out any issues. Any idea what the going rate is for this car in 
good condition? Any reason this shouldn't be a perfectly good commuter? Any 
insight would be appreciated.
Best,
Chris


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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:08:45 -0400
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: uuc Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on a 318ti?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

94?  95 was the first year, maybe it's just a 94 production?

Going price on that has to be under $5K.  A customer of mine just 
purchased a very clean 98K mile car back in January for $4800.  Of 
course, he has a little bit more in it now....

http://216.144.3.217/projects/325tds.htm

Brett Anderson
KMS


Christopher Anrig wrote:
> Hi all, 
> I'm looking at 94 318ti later and thought I'd poll the collective wisdom of 
> the digest. It's a clean, manual w/ 129k on the ticker. It's been dealer 
> serviced, on schedule w/out any issues. Any idea what the going rate is for 
> this car in good condition? Any reason this shouldn't be a perfectly good 
> commuter? Any insight would be appreciated.
> Best,
> Chris
> 

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:15:10 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: Re: Thoughts on a 318ti?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Chris,
Unless you live outside the US, that is likely a '95 model year 318ti (first 
year here - but may very well have been produced in 1994).
I've owned such a car, albeit mine had a supercharger on it.  It was a ball of 
fun, extremely practical and far more reliable than my 1995 M3 due to the 
'simplified' interior, full frame doors, etc.  They are durable and simple 
cars, a perfect balance between the e30 simplicity/durability and the e36 in my 
opinion.  The 318ti is really a joy to drive due to being 300+lbs lighter than 
the 6 cyl coupe/sedan varients with more power.

I experienced good fuel milieage on mine despite a heavy right foot and the 
iron lung (supercharger) sucking some extra fuel while cruising.  It'll make a 
great commuter and has HUGE cargo capacity.

The 'going rate' on these cars is subject to condition primarily.  Since this 
would be an 'early' 318ti, it will have the M42 1.8L engine and be worth less 
on the open market than the later OBDII M44 1.9L engines.

My 1995 was a 'Sport' package car with a factory LS diff.  I'd pay more for one 
of those than a later model 'Active' or 'Base' package car.  Better seats, 
suspension, optional LSD, etc.

Without seeing the car or knowing anything about options, etc. I'd say it is 
worth between $3k-$7k.  But that does not help much now does it?

Lots of enthusiasts are out there for these little 'cult' cars.  Here is one 
outlet:
 
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bmw318ti/

Cheers,
Chet



-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Anrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [UUC]  Thoughts on a 318ti?
>
>Hi all, 
>I'm looking at 94 318ti later and thought I'd poll the collective wisdom of 
>the digest. It's a clean, manual w/ 129k on the ticker. It's been dealer 
>serviced, on schedule w/out any issues. Any idea what the going rate is for 
>this car in good condition? Any reason this shouldn't be a perfectly good 
>commuter? Any insight would be appreciated.
>Best,
>Chris
>

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:20:46 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: Kirk Lachman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: BMW UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Koni DA shock rebuilder
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Marco wrote: 

>Call TC Kline.  If they don't they will know who does.

>http://www.tcklineracing.com/shocks.htm

>I also think Pegasus will do it.

Or, Koni will do it and they are less expensive, IIRC.  

TriPoint/ProParts rebuilds them too if you're a west coaster and you need a 
faster turnaround.

I had my DAs rebuilt by Koni and nosing around their web page I remember seeing 
something about converting existing SAs to DAs.  It wasn't cheap. I don't have 
the URL handy, but any competent search engine should be able to locate Koni 
for ya.  ;-)

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Kirk Lachman
Sin City Chapter

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:01:32 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


A shame to hear about the cable on the E34. This is the same problem I had
on my '77 320i and later on my 80's 318 (throttle cables). You'd think
institutional knowledge would have carried this critical issue through to
current models (whether through the manufacturer or the dealer network),
but I guess not.

-Kevin



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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:01:30 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"Current"?  The E34 design is 20 years old.  ;-)

- Rob


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [UUC] Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage


>
> A shame to hear about the cable on the E34. This is the same problem I had
> on my '77 320i and later on my 80's 318 (throttle cables). You'd think
> institutional knowledge would have carried this critical issue through to
> current models (whether through the manufacturer or the dealer network),
> but I guess not.
>
> -Kevin


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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:26:56 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yes, but it's been out of production only 12 <grin>.
Gary Derian

> "Current"?  The E34 design is 20 years old.  ;-)
>
> - Rob

>> A shame to hear about the cable on the E34. This is the same problem I 
>> had
>> on my '77 320i and later on my 80's 318 (throttle cables). You'd think
>> institutional knowledge would have carried this critical issue through to
>> current models (whether through the manufacturer or the dealer network),
>> but I guess not.
>>
>> -Kevin


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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:30:44 -0400
From: Jay Kenty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Photo: Was Re: Dangerous E34, E36 Cruise Control Cable Breakage
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here's a pic of the actual culprit:

http://community.webshots.com/album/560571741UlOrkP

Jay Kenty
'94 525iTA

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A shame to hear about the cable on the E34. This is the same problem I had
> on my '77 320i and later on my 80's 318 (throttle cables). You'd think
> institutional knowledge would have carried this critical issue through to
> current models (whether through the manufacturer or the dealer network),
> but I guess not.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
>
>  


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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:59:44 -0400
From: "Cledus Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Kevin,

You remind me of this story from the True Stella Awards:

Ron and Kristie Simmons. The couple's 4-year-old son, Justin, was
killed in a tragic lawnmower accident in a licensed daycare facility,
and the death was clearly the result of negligence by the daycare
providers. The providers were clearly deserving of being sued, yet
when the Simmons's discovered the daycare only had $100,000 in
insurance, they dropped the case against them and instead sued the
manufacturer of the 16-year-old lawn mower because the mower didn't
have a safety device that 1) had not been invented at the time of the
mower's manufacture, and 2) no safety agency had even suggested needed
to be invented. A sympathetic jury still awarded the family $2
million.

Cheers,
Jim Laing
Evo Clown
<OBMWC> I hate control arm bushing installs <OBMWC>


On 9/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ed,
> I see your interest in getting rock solid documentation about the dates on
> the high mounted brake lights but then again you might get a judge like
> that who allowed a suit which contended that GM should have had an air bag
> in a car before the time the technology was available. ( a few years ago as
> I recall).
>
>
> -Kevin
>
>
>
>
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