So we just throw up our hands, open our borders wide and let everyone just
waltz right on in....

Cool, when the influx of Al-Queda cells come in you're going to take the
dirty bomb hit for me right?

Thanks
 
Scott
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:59 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: immigration question

On 3/28/06, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think the issue could be solved by
>
> 1) making our borders secure, increasing border patrol and maybe even
> national guard presence along with better fencing, walls etc.


How? We have a giant open border with Mexico. We have an even bigger open
border with Canada. We have thousands of miles of coastline in the lower 48,
and thousands more in Alaska. The vast majority of our borders are in very
lightly populated areas with hostile terrain- mountains and deserts.
"Securing the border" is a campaign slogan, that's all. We don't have the
money, the manpower, or the political will to secure the border.

Think about it this way. During the Cold War, the "Iron Curtain" countries
went to extreme length to secure their borders- not to keep people out, but
to keep people in. Despite those lengths, people still got out. The border
between North and South Korea is the most heavily patrolled border in the
world, and yet North Koreans sometimes get into South Korea. Is that the
kind of border we want for our country? If people really thought it through,
they would not want that.

2) making it more costly to enter the US illegally, after the borders are

> secure. IE: Illegal immigration becomes a felony with automatic
> deportation,
> fines and/or jail time


Deportation doesn't work. So we're going to take them in, feed and clothe
them? As for fines, there are coming here because they are broke. How will
they pay the fines? Are we going to institute debtors prison? Maybe we'll
just put them to work and garnish their wages until they can pay off the
fines- oh wait, we're trying to prevent them from working in this country,
right?

3) The cost involved in rounding up, prosecuting and housing 11,000,000
> potential felons is astronomical, and probably close to impossible. Give
> them a one-shot chance to make things right, they get their paperwork,
> green
> cards etc. Everyone that gets this chance goes into a "watch" database, as
> potential security risk.
>
> If your caught in the US illegally, after that it's up to the courts.


How do you propose to round up 11 million people who don't want to be
caught? Where, exactly, would you put them? What about food? You are talking
about a city the size of New York full of people. How would you get them all
back across the border? What if they aren't Mexican, would you ship them all
the way to Guatemala, or China?  Who would deal with the logistics?


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