the position would have been different in the first gulf war, yes.
Saddam was clearly the aggressor.

On 11/17/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There was no proof of WMD AFTER the fact. Before we went in he puffed out
> his chest and made it appear that he had them, and then when the pressure
> was put on him, he started saying he had no WMD's. So what were we supposed
> to do/believe? It is these types of scenarios where I cannot understand the
> liberal approach of wait and see. There are too many things at stake to just
> wait and see. Situations like this require action be taken.
> Now of course we all know he could have avoided this if he simply let the
> inspectors run around his country looking at whatever they wanted with no
> resistance. He chose not to and now this. I honestly wish he had cooperated
> 100% so this whole thing could have been avoided (maybe). But that is the
> problem with men in the Middle East, especially men like Saddam. They have
> too much pride and they don't like anyone stepping on that pride. Pride and
> honor are two things over there that are respected more than anything.
> That's why in some of these countries, if a daughter has premarital sex, she
> is put to death. She dishonored that family and wounded the father's pride.
> Likewise for adultery. Death is the status quo for the woman. And the reason
> I know this is because I interacted with many Iraqi men and women, and they
> all told me the same thing.
> And let's not forget how many times he shot at our jets that were patrolling
> the no-fly zones. Technically, that is an act of war. Why that pretext for
> war was never taken I don't know. I guess selling the world on WMD's sounded
> better. Who knows? Only GW knows for sure.
> All I know is this. I keep saying that we should have done this 17 years
> ago. We had more boots on the ground, and more cooperative world support.
> Ask a lot of soldiers who were in the first gulf war and they will tell you
> the same thing. I honestly believe that it would have been very different
> back then.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:29 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: new book confirms Saddam wanted a nuke
>
> But Hussein was not a threat to them either.  As you pointed out,
> that's why the Gulf War happened and Hussein was locked down - further
> there was no evidence of WMD to make him a threat.  It was, obviously,
> an extremely stupid call for what reasons it was made.
>
>
>
> 

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