ssssshhh. of course the emperor has clothes.

On 11/17/07, Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Statements like this fascinate me:
>
> "Now of course we all know he could have avoided this if he simply let the
> inspectors run around his country looking at whatever they wanted with no
> resistance."
>
> I often wonder how people saying such things would feel if they were in his
> position.  I highly, highly doubt the US would be at all agreeable to
> letting inspectors in to take a look at whatever weapons programs we have
> going on.  I like how the US expects everyone else to do our bidding and
> bend to our will.  I bet if we tried that "inspectors" thing with some
> european country, they would tell us to shut the hell up and go away.  But,
> see, we can push some of those middle eastern countries around, so it's all
> good.  The hypocrasy is interesting, to say the least.  Unfortunately, it is
> just the way things work. The people on top have their way with the people
> on the bottom.  *shrug*
>
> I do agree with your assessment of Gulf War I.  We should have taken care of
> business when we were commited the first time.  Father and son.  Tag-team
> screw-ups ;)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Sorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 1:17 PM
> Subject: RE: new book confirms Saddam wanted a nuke
>
>
> > There was no proof of WMD AFTER the fact. Before we went in he puffed out
> > his chest and made it appear that he had them, and then when the pressure
> > was put on him, he started saying he had no WMD's. So what were we
> > supposed
> > to do/believe? It is these types of scenarios where I cannot understand
> > the
> > liberal approach of wait and see. There are too many things at stake to
> > just
> > wait and see. Situations like this require action be taken.
> > Now of course we all know he could have avoided this if he simply let the
> > inspectors run around his country looking at whatever they wanted with no
> > resistance. He chose not to and now this. I honestly wish he had
> > cooperated
> > 100% so this whole thing could have been avoided (maybe). But that is the
> > problem with men in the Middle East, especially men like Saddam. They have
> > too much pride and they don't like anyone stepping on that pride. Pride
> > and
> > honor are two things over there that are respected more than anything.
> > That's why in some of these countries, if a daughter has premarital sex,
> > she
> > is put to death. She dishonored that family and wounded the father's
> > pride.
> > Likewise for adultery. Death is the status quo for the woman. And the
> > reason
> > I know this is because I interacted with many Iraqi men and women, and
> > they
> > all told me the same thing.
> > And let's not forget how many times he shot at our jets that were
> > patrolling
> > the no-fly zones. Technically, that is an act of war. Why that pretext for
> > war was never taken I don't know. I guess selling the world on WMD's
> > sounded
> > better. Who knows? Only GW knows for sure.
> > All I know is this. I keep saying that we should have done this 17 years
> > ago. We had more boots on the ground, and more cooperative world support.
> > Ask a lot of soldiers who were in the first gulf war and they will tell
> > you
> > the same thing. I honestly believe that it would have been very different
> > back then.
>
>
> 

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