Actually, this looks remarkably like the approach my therapist takes with
me. Being a smart cookie, I react well to logical, rational cognative
therapies that let me get at the root of why I'm feeling like I am and (when
it works) use that knowledge to either change non-productive problematic
feelings into things that lend themselves more to positive change or let me
ignore my feelings just long enough to get past some completely irrational
hangup. :-)
-- Ben Doom
Programmer & General Lackey
Moonbow Software, Inc
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:45 PM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: RE: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
:
:
: You could look at my master's thesis,
: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/thesis/ ,
: it explains some of the theoretical aspects of it. But in a nutshell the
: idea is that irrational or maladaptive beliefs, (i.e., thoughts
: with errors
: in content or logical structure) are at the basic core of emotional and
: psychological distress.
:
: The web site for the Albert Ellis Institute in New York has some
: good links
: and explanations of REBT, here's a link to the faq on REBT:
: http://www.rebt.org/about/whatisrebt.asp
:
: regards,
: larry
:
: At 01:47 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
: >Um. I'm not sure where I was incorrect. I think we both said that
: >medication is not nearly as effective by itself as in
: conjunction with other
: >therapies -- you just were more straightforward.
: >
: >I was amazed at how much information the article provided
: without actually
: >giving away much information about what RET or REBT actually
: does. :-) I'd
: >be interested in reading about it if you have any links to something more
: >descriptive. If not, I'll just Google it later, so don't worry
: about it too
: >much.
: >
: >And yeah, so far mixing cognitive therapy, light therapy,
: antidepressants,
: >and getting my head shrunk every other week seems to be working for me
: >pretty well. :-)
: >
: >
: >-- Ben Doom
: > Programmer & General Lackey
: > Moonbow Software, Inc
: >
: >: -----Original Message-----
: >: From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:31 PM
: >: To: CF-Community
: >: Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
: >:
: >:
: >: Um Ben,
: >:
: >: you may be a bit incorrect there. The research does show that cognitive
: >: therapy for depression can be as effective as medication. When
: >: the two are
: >: used in conjunction the effectiveness of both approaches can be
: >: substantially increased. In my own research (see
: >: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/maret/RETstudy1.htm) we found that
: >: REBT, a form
: >: of cognitive behavioral therapy, was very effective.
: >:
: >: But the approach you suggest is a good one.
: >:
: >: larry
: >:
: >: At 12:26 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
: >: >Keep in mind that, if things like cognitive therapies don't work by
: >: >themselves, there's nothing wrong with antidepressants.
: >: >
: >: >The problem I see with how they are used today is that they are
: >: like modern
: >: >snake oil -- supposedly a panacea (how do you spell that?).
: >: That isn't how
: >: >they should be used. I take antidepressants in order to give
: me enough
: >: >balance for things like cognitive therapy, excersize, light
: therapy, and
: >: >just doing things that please me to control my depression.
: >: >
: >: >And sometimes it's necessary to have that help. Yesterday, for
: >: example, I
: >: >got my psychiatrist to bump my dosage for a couple of months
: >: because I seem
: >: >to have seasonal affective disorder and weeks on end of one
: sunny day in
: >: >seven was destroying me. But I don't expect that to
: magically make it go
: >: >away -- just make it bearable enough that I have the energy and
: >: motivation
: >: >to do the things I need to do to make it go away.
: >: >
: >: >People talk about it being a crutch, but isn't that what you need when
: >: >you've got a broken leg?
: >: >
: >: >Did that all make sense?
: >: >
: >: >I'm certainly not advocating 'jumping on the meds bandwagon' but
: >: I do hope
: >: >you'll keep an open mind to it.
: >: >
: >: >
: >: >-- Ben Doom
: >: > Programmer & General Lackey
: >: > Moonbow Software, Inc
: >: >
: >: >: -----Original Message-----
: >: >: From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: >: >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:02 PM
: >: >: To: CF-Community
: >: >: Subject: RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
: >: >:
: >: >:
: >: >: Ug. This is sad...
: >: >:
: >: >: My oldest has been battling some depression lately (he is 16) and it
: >: >: scares me. But we are working together to try different things
: >: before we
: >: >: just jump on the meds bandwagon.
: >: >:
: >: >: ~~
: >: >: Stephenie
: >: >:
: >: >:
: >: >:
: >: >:
: >: >:
: >: >: -----Original Message-----
: >: >: From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: >: >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:20 AM
: >: >: To: CF-Community
: >: >: Subject: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
: >: >:
: >: >:
: >: >: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/56497p-52905c.html
: >: >:
: >: >: How dumb to people have to be???
: >: >:
: >: >: Or is it all part of Natural Selection?
: >: >:
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