Please tell me what CBT means and i am praying it doesnt mean what i think it means in certain circles :) LOL
----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: RE: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam) > Probably CBT is the most popular approach to psychotherapy, or I should say > the therapist's interpretation of it. It sounds like its an approach that > works with you. > > larry > > At 04:06 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote: > >Actually, this looks remarkably like the approach my therapist takes with > >me. Being a smart cookie, I react well to logical, rational cognative > >therapies that let me get at the root of why I'm feeling like I am and (when > >it works) use that knowledge to either change non-productive problematic > >feelings into things that lend themselves more to positive change or let me > >ignore my feelings just long enough to get past some completely irrational > >hangup. :-) > > > > > >-- Ben Doom > > Programmer & General Lackey > > Moonbow Software, Inc > > > >: -----Original Message----- > >: From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:45 PM > >: To: CF-Community > >: Subject: RE: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam) > >: > >: > >: You could look at my master's thesis, > >: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/thesis/ , > >: it explains some of the theoretical aspects of it. But in a nutshell the > >: idea is that irrational or maladaptive beliefs, (i.e., thoughts > >: with errors > >: in content or logical structure) are at the basic core of emotional and > >: psychological distress. > >: > >: The web site for the Albert Ellis Institute in New York has some > >: good links > >: and explanations of REBT, here's a link to the faq on REBT: > >: http://www.rebt.org/about/whatisrebt.asp > >: > >: regards, > >: larry > >: > >: At 01:47 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote: > >: >Um. I'm not sure where I was incorrect. I think we both said that > >: >medication is not nearly as effective by itself as in > >: conjunction with other > >: >therapies -- you just were more straightforward. > >: > > >: >I was amazed at how much information the article provided > >: without actually > >: >giving away much information about what RET or REBT actually > >: does. :-) I'd > >: >be interested in reading about it if you have any links to something more > >: >descriptive. If not, I'll just Google it later, so don't worry > >: about it too > >: >much. > >: > > >: >And yeah, so far mixing cognitive therapy, light therapy, > >: antidepressants, > >: >and getting my head shrunk every other week seems to be working for me > >: >pretty well. :-) > >: > > >: > > >: >-- Ben Doom > >: > Programmer & General Lackey > >: > Moonbow Software, Inc > >: > > >: >: -----Original Message----- > >: >: From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >: >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:31 PM > >: >: To: CF-Community > >: >: Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam) > >: >: > >: >: > >: >: Um Ben, > >: >: > >: >: you may be a bit incorrect there. The research does show that cognitive > >: >: therapy for depression can be as effective as medication. When > >: >: the two are > >: >: used in conjunction the effectiveness of both approaches can be > >: >: substantially increased. In my own research (see > >: >: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/maret/RETstudy1.htm) we found that > >: >: REBT, a form > >: >: of cognitive behavioral therapy, was very effective. > >: >: > >: >: But the approach you suggest is a good one. > >: >: > >: >: larry > >: >: > >: >: At 12:26 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote: > >: >: >Keep in mind that, if things like cognitive therapies don't work by > >: >: >themselves, there's nothing wrong with antidepressants. > >: >: > > >: >: >The problem I see with how they are used today is that they are > >: >: like modern > >: >: >snake oil -- supposedly a panacea (how do you spell that?). > >: >: That isn't how > >: >: >they should be used. I take antidepressants in order to give > >: me enough > >: >: >balance for things like cognitive therapy, excersize, light > >: therapy, and > >: >: >just doing things that please me to control my depression. > >: >: > > >: >: >And sometimes it's necessary to have that help. Yesterday, for > >: >: example, I > >: >: >got my psychiatrist to bump my dosage for a couple of months > >: >: because I seem > >: >: >to have seasonal affective disorder and weeks on end of one > >: sunny day in > >: >: >seven was destroying me. But I don't expect that to > >: magically make it go > >: >: >away -- just make it bearable enough that I have the energy and > >: >: motivation > >: >: >to do the things I need to do to make it go away. > >: >: > > >: >: >People talk about it being a crutch, but isn't that what you need when > >: >: >you've got a broken leg? > >: >: > > >: >: >Did that all make sense? > >: >: > > >: >: >I'm certainly not advocating 'jumping on the meds bandwagon' but > >: >: I do hope > >: >: >you'll keep an open mind to it. > >: >: > > >: >: > > >: >: >-- Ben Doom > >: >: > Programmer & General Lackey > >: >: > Moonbow Software, Inc > >: >: > > >: >: >: -----Original Message----- > >: >: >: From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >: >: >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:02 PM > >: >: >: To: CF-Community > >: >: >: Subject: RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam > >: >: >: > >: >: >: > >: >: >: Ug. This is sad... > >: >: >: > >: >: >: My oldest has been battling some depression lately (he is 16) and it > >: >: >: scares me. But we are working together to try different things > >: >: before we > >: >: >: just jump on the meds bandwagon. > >: >: >: > >: >: >: ~~ > >: >: >: Stephenie > >: >: >: > >: >: >: > >: >: >: > >: >: >: > >: >: >: > >: >: >: -----Original Message----- > >: >: >: From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >: >: >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:20 AM > >: >: >: To: CF-Community > >: >: >: Subject: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam > >: >: >: > >: >: >: > >: >: >: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/56497p-52905c.html > >: >: >: > >: >: >: How dumb to people have to be??? > >: >: >: > >: >: >: Or is it all part of Natural Selection? > >: >: >: > >: >: >: Philip Arnold > >: >: >: Technical Director > >: >: >: Certified ColdFusion Developer > >: >: >: ASP Multimedia Limited > >: >: >: Switchboard: +44 (0)20 8680 8099 > >: >: >: Fax: +44 (0)20 8686 7911 > >: >: >: > >: >: >: www.aspmedia.co.uk > >: >: >: www.aspevents.net > >: >: >: > >: >: >: An ISO9001 registered company. > >: >: >: > >: >: >: > >: ********************************************************************** > >: >: >: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > >: >: >: intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to > >: >: whom they are > >: >: >: addressed. 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