Cognative Behavioral Therapy, IIRC.
-- Ben Doom
Programmer & General Lackey
Moonbow Software, Inc
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:40 PM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
:
:
: Please tell me what CBT means and i am praying it doesnt mean what i think
: it means in
: certain circles :) LOL
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:34 PM
: Subject: RE: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
:
:
: > Probably CBT is the most popular approach to psychotherapy, or I should
: say
: > the therapist's interpretation of it. It sounds like its an
: approach that
: > works with you.
: >
: > larry
: >
: > At 04:06 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
: > >Actually, this looks remarkably like the approach my therapist
: takes with
: > >me. Being a smart cookie, I react well to logical, rational cognative
: > >therapies that let me get at the root of why I'm feeling like I am and
: (when
: > >it works) use that knowledge to either change non-productive
: problematic
: > >feelings into things that lend themselves more to positive
: change or let
: me
: > >ignore my feelings just long enough to get past some completely
: irrational
: > >hangup. :-)
: > >
: > >
: > >-- Ben Doom
: > > Programmer & General Lackey
: > > Moonbow Software, Inc
: > >
: > >: -----Original Message-----
: > >: From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: > >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:45 PM
: > >: To: CF-Community
: > >: Subject: RE: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
: > >:
: > >:
: > >: You could look at my master's thesis,
: > >: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/thesis/ ,
: > >: it explains some of the theoretical aspects of it. But in a nutshell
: the
: > >: idea is that irrational or maladaptive beliefs, (i.e., thoughts
: > >: with errors
: > >: in content or logical structure) are at the basic core of
: emotional and
: > >: psychological distress.
: > >:
: > >: The web site for the Albert Ellis Institute in New York has some
: > >: good links
: > >: and explanations of REBT, here's a link to the faq on REBT:
: > >: http://www.rebt.org/about/whatisrebt.asp
: > >:
: > >: regards,
: > >: larry
: > >:
: > >: At 01:47 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
: > >: >Um. I'm not sure where I was incorrect. I think we both said that
: > >: >medication is not nearly as effective by itself as in
: > >: conjunction with other
: > >: >therapies -- you just were more straightforward.
: > >: >
: > >: >I was amazed at how much information the article provided
: > >: without actually
: > >: >giving away much information about what RET or REBT actually
: > >: does. :-) I'd
: > >: >be interested in reading about it if you have any links to something
: more
: > >: >descriptive. If not, I'll just Google it later, so don't worry
: > >: about it too
: > >: >much.
: > >: >
: > >: >And yeah, so far mixing cognitive therapy, light therapy,
: > >: antidepressants,
: > >: >and getting my head shrunk every other week seems to be
: working for me
: > >: >pretty well. :-)
: > >: >
: > >: >
: > >: >-- Ben Doom
: > >: > Programmer & General Lackey
: > >: > Moonbow Software, Inc
: > >: >
: > >: >: -----Original Message-----
: > >: >: From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: > >: >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:31 PM
: > >: >: To: CF-Community
: > >: >: Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over
: his Web Cam)
: > >: >:
: > >: >:
: > >: >: Um Ben,
: > >: >:
: > >: >: you may be a bit incorrect there. The research does show that
: cognitive
: > >: >: therapy for depression can be as effective as medication. When
: > >: >: the two are
: > >: >: used in conjunction the effectiveness of both approaches can be
: > >: >: substantially increased. In my own research (see
: > >: >: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/maret/RETstudy1.htm) we found that
: > >: >: REBT, a form
: > >: >: of cognitive behavioral therapy, was very effective.
: > >: >:
: > >: >: But the approach you suggest is a good one.
: > >: >:
: > >: >: larry
: > >: >:
: > >: >: At 12:26 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
: > >: >: >Keep in mind that, if things like cognitive therapies
: don't work by
: > >: >: >themselves, there's nothing wrong with antidepressants.
: > >: >: >
: > >: >: >The problem I see with how they are used today is that they are
: > >: >: like modern
: > >: >: >snake oil -- supposedly a panacea (how do you spell that?).
: > >: >: That isn't how
: > >: >: >they should be used. I take antidepressants in order to give
: > >: me enough
: > >: >: >balance for things like cognitive therapy, excersize, light
: > >: therapy, and
: > >: >: >just doing things that please me to control my depression.
: > >: >: >
: > >: >: >And sometimes it's necessary to have that help. Yesterday, for
: > >: >: example, I
: > >: >: >got my psychiatrist to bump my dosage for a couple of months
: > >: >: because I seem
: > >: >: >to have seasonal affective disorder and weeks on end of one
: > >: sunny day in
: > >: >: >seven was destroying me. But I don't expect that to
: > >: magically make it go
: > >: >: >away -- just make it bearable enough that I have the energy and
: > >: >: motivation
: > >: >: >to do the things I need to do to make it go away.
: > >: >: >
: > >: >: >People talk about it being a crutch, but isn't that what you need
: when
: > >: >: >you've got a broken leg?
: > >: >: >
: > >: >: >Did that all make sense?
: > >: >: >
: > >: >: >I'm certainly not advocating 'jumping on the meds bandwagon' but
: > >: >: I do hope
: > >: >: >you'll keep an open mind to it.
: > >: >: >
: > >: >: >
: > >: >: >-- Ben Doom
: > >: >: > Programmer & General Lackey
: > >: >: > Moonbow Software, Inc
: > >: >: >
: > >: >: >: -----Original Message-----
: > >: >: >: From: Stephenie Hamilton
: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: > >: >: >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:02 PM
: > >: >: >: To: CF-Community
: > >: >: >: Subject: RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >: Ug. This is sad...
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >: My oldest has been battling some depression lately (he
: is 16) and
: it
: > >: >: >: scares me. But we are working together to try different things
: > >: >: before we
: > >: >: >: just jump on the meds bandwagon.
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >: ~~
: > >: >: >: Stephenie
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >: -----Original Message-----
: > >: >: >: From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
: > >: >: >: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:20 AM
: > >: >: >: To: CF-Community
: > >: >: >: Subject: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/56497p-52905c.html
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >: How dumb to people have to be???
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >: Or is it all part of Natural Selection?
: > >: >: >:
: > >: >: >: Philip Arnold
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