Renee, please don't consider this a flame because I am glad you posted and I see the points you are trying to make. Please don't compare people with AIDS to dogs. We simply are not dealing with the same problems. A dog with a bad heart doesn't lose his job, or the respect and caring of his family or friends. He isn't even remotely contagious and so that piece of the whole thing never even comes up. There is no social stigma attached to acquiring a bad heart as there unfortunately is with AIDS. If a dog with a bad heart is publicly known to have a bad heart all that happens to him is that people will no longer want to have him siring puppies for them. Instead of focusing on the great dogs who you say have been maligned over the years based on hearsay and gossip, I would rather focus on the great dogs over the years who have passed on their bad hearts, crummy hips and other genetically transmitted diseases so that generations of their progeny can die young, live in pain and suffer. If I have to choose between protecting the reputation of a "great dog who has been maligned" or the puppies that I am responsible for, my puppies and their little tiny hearts win every single time. Myra Savant
>From: Renee Bruns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] genotype v phenotype >Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 12:48:57 -0800 > >Myra wrote: > > > While I agree that people are more inclined to support a registry that > > publishes good news, I still wish that we had an open registry that >gives >us > > all the known information. By having access to that information, we >could > > start to piece together the puzzles about carrier status and recessives. >We > > would be able to know more about the genetic baggage that our dogs are > > carrying. I know that you are correct that if people were mandatorily > > required to report all of the testing information in any society, they > > simply wouldn't test. I'm not sure why that is, but I suppose it has > > something to do with the competitive nature of showing dogs for sport. >All > > we can do at this point is the best we can do. Myra Savant > > > >I work with clients living with AIDS. If we were to force testing and open >reporting, I'm afraid we would have many people refusing to be tested for >fear of being "outed" or worse! Just imagine the ramifications of that! >Now, please don't flame me. I am well aware of the differences between >AIDS >and health testing, with open reporting, of our Cavaliers, but please just >think about all the great dogs who have been so maligned over the years >based on hearsay and gossip. > >IF (and in my mind it's a very big IF), an open registry really was to be >used for the good of the breed, I'd support it wholeheartedly. Instead, >what I (and many of the people I know in this breed) unfortunately have >been >witness--and sometimes recipients--of is more like a witch hunt when >someone >has a problem in the breed. And, it seems that the more successful someone >is, the more maligned their dogs are. > >Again, please don't flame me. I certainly support health testing and the >sharing of information for breeding purposes. All I'm saying is an open >registry as has been suggested is just not realistic. > >I also wholeheartedly agree with Janice and the others who made the point >that just because all results are not in an open database does not mean we >don't test. I'm guilty of not sending in heart, eye and knee results on my >dogs, too. And, since most of my dogs are under 2 or have just turned 2, >I'm just starting to do hips. > >I would love to see the day when health testing is just done by everyone >and >not used as a marketing tool or as a means to imply that someone else isn't >part of a "premiere" group of breeders. Maybe there's another reason test >results are not being supplied to someone expressing an interest in using a >dog. Maybe it's their way of saying the dog is not available? > >Renee Bruns >Oklahoma > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
