Very well said Susan.
Cathy

Susan Cochran wrote:

> This seems to me to be a basic argument between a right to privacy and the
> right to know. Knowing the financial particulars of all the families in
> Laura's neighborhood might help me make a decision on whether or not I
> wanted I wanted to buy the house next door to Laura, but I don't have the
> right to ask to see her or her neighbors IRS returns for the last 5 years.
>
> Now, if she had her house up for sale and I was interested in buying it, I
> could ask to see the property taxes, the termite certification and things
> pertaining to the house. The same is true in dogs. If you are interested in
> using a stud that has been offered or in purchasing a dog, then you can ask
> to see the health papers on that dog. Insisting that anyone has the right to
> know every detail about dogs that they do not own nor will ever be allowed
> to use for breeding seems a little bit much to me. Especially with the way
> gossip flows through the dog fancy--- and gets added to with every
> retelling.
>
> I watched a little of the Civil Rights Commission meeting on CSPAN yesterday
> and thought how similarly Chairperson Mary Berry handled the meeting to the
> ones that I have attended in dog clubs. The average citizen has no idea of
> the behavior in the committees, just as the average dog owner has no
> conception of the politics that goes on in dog clubs. When ever some person
> insists that they have a right to something that is none of their business,
> I always wonder why and I never take what they say at face value. Being in
> dog clubs for 26 years has taught me never to trust appearances.
> All the best,
> Susan Cochran
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] genotype v phenotype
>
> > Hello Sheena,
> > I directed the hogwash statement at the need for Laura to see Cathy's dogs
> > pedigree's(and clearances) in order to solve the problem of heart disease
> in
> > the Cavalier.
> > Now if Laura would like to see Cathy's pedigree's in order to help her own
> > breeding program..I could understand that...
> > Merry Christmas.
> > Jo Ann Carvill
> > BJ Cavaliers
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > www.bjcavaliers.com
> >
> >
> > > Hi List
> > >
> > > Why is what Laura wrote on genotype v phenotype wrong (or,
> alternatively,
> > > hogwash)?  Everything I've ever read - Padgett, Franklin, Robinson etc -
> > on
> > > genetics describes in words of one syllable the difference between the
> > two,
> > > and gives clear explanations of various styles of breeding programmes
> one
> > > can follow with indications of what to expect (particularly with
> Padgett's
> > > notation system) as a result.
> > >
> > > I understand that breeding on genotype can be a long slow upward
> process,
> > > and too tightly can involve having to cull - not a happy thought and one
> > > that most breeders won't contemplate. IMO rightly, but there are
> breeders
> > > rumoured to have done it and possibly those that continue to do it.
> > >
> > > Breeding on phenotype can be a lot quicker, with the added advantage of
> > > hybrid vigour, but the disadvantage in succeeding generations of a whole
> > > bunch of genes you might not want.
> > >
> > > So you leave the hard facts of genetics and - whether you like it or
> not -
> > > you're into the tricky realm of personal preference and list and planet
> > > alike are presumably big enough to encompass the differences, especially
> > at
> > > this time of year.
> > >
> > > Me?  I'm still hoping for 'the nick' - the magical mating between two
> dogs
> > > that produce the most wonderful offspring, whether genotypical or
> > > phenotypical - although my personal preference is to go for the first.
> > >
> > > Best to all
> > >
> > > Sheena
> > >
> > >
> > > Sheena Stevens
> > > Kilnshena Kavaliers
> > > Devon, UK
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
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